Who Helped you most?

[Electra]

I was just wondering. When you first started in adult did you have a "mentor"...someone who took you under their wing? Who helped you most ?

I used to produce a radio show back when, and I remember we sometimes had on icons like FM and RB talking about how they got started. They would say they came into adult when there was nothing..no help..no resources...no structure. They made it up as they went along and often started with grainy centerfold pics where you could still see the staple marks LOL. Its really amazing how much help there is out there today for newbies coming into the industry. This resource alone has just about everything you would want to know, plus there's radio and conventions etc etc. Can't imagine coming into this business and having to figure it all out on my own.

[Yell]

GG and MML and still learning alot thanks guys.

GG got me and the wife started in 99.

Mostly Greenguy cuz when i grow up i want to be like him

[Jim]

I had to just help myself as well. I never took pictures from magazines since there was Usenet When we started YNOT, it was only to help each other in the small group. Helping non-members was an afterthought. While running ultracash, we opened ultradokk to help webmasters. As far as I know, we were the first program to send weekly newsletters and have a message board for the program's webmasters. ultradokk went great until the guy running it got paranoid and quit a job he was being paid way too much to do Actually he has kind of been a flake ever since. Too much, "I Quit" and "I'm Back" for my tastes. Anyway, I digress. Nobody helped me in the day

[Electra]

Originally Posted by Jim

I had to just help myself as well. I never took pictures from magazines since there was Usenet When we started YNOT, it was only to help each other in the small group. Helping non-members was an afterthought. While running ultracash, we opened ultradokk to help webmasters. As far as I know, we were the first program to send weekly newsletters and have a message board for the program's webmasters. ultradokk went great until the guy running it got paranoid and quit a job he was being paid way too much to do Actually he has kind of been a flake ever since. Too much, "I Quit" and "I'm Back" for my tastes. Anyway, I digress. Nobody helped me in the day

Yeah..I remember some of that.
Who were among the first members at YNOT..do you recall? I can imagine PK being there..who else?

[MrMaryLou]

With out a shadow of doubt Greenguy

[Cleo]

I'm from back when there wasn't a whole lot of anyplace to get much help.

Over the years I have gotten some pretty bad advice from a few people and some good advice from a few people. I also would say that Greenguy has probably been one of the few to have both helped me and given me good advice.

[Torn Rose]

Originally Posted by MrMaryLou

With out a shadow of doubt Greenguy

Who?

[Torn Rose]

I can not say "one person" really, we have had alot of input from so many people, some good advice some real bad advice.

[Greenguy]

For me it was a man in Wisconsin named Joe - without him, I would not be here today.

He got out of the biz for a bit but he's coming back

[Jim]

Originally Posted by MrMaryLou

With out a shadow of doubt Greenguy

When are you going to change your avatar to a Greenguy Dick Hat

[Jim]

Originally Posted by Electra

Yeah..I remember some of that.
Who were among the first members at YNOT..do you recall? I can imagine PK being there..who else?

I can remember most. Actually I think Alexa has the list of groups still. Yep, here they are on the bottom of the page. The groups were just randomly selected.
http://web.archive.org/web/199612192...dvictoria.com/

[Jim]

Wow, a lot are gone now. I remember losing a few when we decided to make it a rule to buy our own content and not grab it someplace for free

[f69j69b]

MrMaryLou has taught me the most about this biz. The on the bench chats on saturday have been a great learning experience.

Fred

[Chop Smith]

Even before the board started, when GG or Jim spoke, I listened. I owe a bunch to them and a group of folks that I met here. The single best thing that helped me was when they started the board. Hell, I went from "Crazy Chop" to "Chop Smith". Hopfully one day my banker will call me "Mr. Smith."

[Electra]

Originally Posted by Jim

Wow, a lot are gone now. I remember losing a few when we decided to make it a rule to buy our own content and not grab it someplace for free

Wow..that's an interesting list. I don't think I ever saw that before.
What else do you remember about " the old days"?

[dareutwo]

I'd have to say Tommy and GG -
However, I'll have to add that Boards are very important too.
Met lot's of great webmasters driving down that GG board route.
(which has been a journey by itself)

[Jim]

I remember most of it like yesterday. People getting thrown out, people getting turned down for membership. I wrote the code of ethics for YNOT...wish I could find it. I also ran the short lived ethics committee. It was disbanded because Rick (YNOT) wanted to be part of it but we wouldn't let him

[Electra]

Originally Posted by Jim

I remember most of it like yesterday. People getting thrown out, people getting turned down for membership. I wrote the code of ethics for YNOT...wish I could find it. I also ran the short lived ethics committee. It was disbanded because Rick (YNOT) wanted to be part of it but we wouldn't let him

But Rick went on to own and run YNOT didn't he?

Let em know if you discover the code of ethics..that would be interesting to read.

[Lemmy]

No mentor here. I initially paid an online webmaster school to teach me the basics, which they did. But I could have saved myself $140 by coming straight to this board which is by far where I've picked up the most useful knowledge.

[cd34]

Jim is most directly responsible for my forray into the adult world. I had dabbled in the adult side as early as '95, but, his persistent calls for 6 months finally convinced me that this was where I needed to be.

I don't know that I've said it much, but Thank You Jim!

[Jim]

Originally Posted by Electra

But Rick went on to own and run YNOT didn't he?

Let em know if you discover the code of ethics..that would be interesting to read.

He always owned it. Shortly after the ethics thing, he disbanded the members area. There are probably a lot of people that remember applying for membership and getting turned down. My wife and Asia Carrera were friends. I told her that she should apply for YNOT membership. She told me that Rick already told her she would be a member the next vote Before that there was Karl Bernard (sp) (Gamma). While he was a member, he tried to get everyone together to hack into Cybereroticas Servers. I can't remember what Ron did to piss him off

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by Jim

...There are probably a lot of people that remember applying for membership and getting turned down...

You can put me on that list

[Ramster]

Not one person really. I somehow found my way to Greenguy's old board where he, MrMaryLou, Tommy, DangerDave, Alex and a few others were. What I learned there was INVALUABLE!!

After that initial learning experience I think I'd say I owe it to myself. LOL Why? Because I made the jump and went to the Vegas show in 2001 when I still had a regular job. I left on short notice and got fired 2 days after getting back. (True story). In Vegas I met Greenguy, MrMaryLou, SirMoby and Sean who runs NSCash.com and a few other people and those relationships have grown and were a driving forcing to keep me in the biz.

Simply put!! Friends!!!!

[Jim]

It wasn't supposed to be this way but it seemed near the end, you had to know Rick. I remember trying to get Serge in...didn't work. When we voted, only Rick saw the votes and let us know who got in.

[Soul/Rebel]

the most? Wizd0m