Another banned sponsor on PenisBot, WetPlace, etc.

[kit]

Another prick banned forever:
http://www.saharagetsdirty.com

All who work with them, sorry, we don't want them on our projects.

No comments.

[Useless]

Originally Posted by kit

Another prick banned forever:
http://www.saharagetsdirty.com

I believe prick is the proper word for that guy.

[SmithsMedia]

You have some sites in the pipeline from me with that content - Affraid to say my feelings are the same, I invested time money and effort and got 0 on sales, they were up against two other indian sponsors only ONE has converted, all had same traffic, effort etc.

Any how this programme sparked a war of words on a UK board while I tried to suggest ways in which he could make things better. The abuse was a little too iractic for my liking.

Any my point is I'm 100% with you on this and look for ward to the rejection mails

[Joe A]

Ummmm

Here's a cut and paste of the apology I received from Andrei:

Joe,

I'm really sorry.
It was really our fault that we trusted this reviewer completely and let some ungrounded suggestions slip into review on saharagetsdirty.
I see now we have to be more meticulous and careful in our assessments.

With best wishes
Andrei

You should think before you flame

You also used material without permission and all I did was point this out. I was ignored originally when I asked you to remove it, so I issued a DMCA notice ... That was the only way to get you to act ... I even called the phone number on the whois for your group of sites and guess what.. I was told that it was the wrong number. False information on a whois is illegal now... Or was I told a lie by the person who answered the phone...

As for NoChex Paul.. Don't you ever stop moaning... I gave you a lot of help when you started and you ignored all my advise.. I have ICQ history to back this up.. Your ideas sucked so didn't sell.. I told you from day one.. So blame yourself .. Not anyone else... I made a special point that the font you wanted to use was totally out of date and advised you not to use it but you did, as an example of how I tried to help

Useless... you and I just don't get on, so I've nothing to add to your comments and that's not having a go at you but making an admission

Next contestant please... I love this forum

[SmithsMedia]

No Joe, I dont stop moaning, maybe you should do what you can just about do - take pictures of naked birds - and you do that badly!

You're rude, untrusting and pretty unliked bloke across a number of communitites, to see the post like Kit made does not supprise me.

Take your blinkers off get your end out your ass - you bring shame on the UK with you have baked leakly paysites and shaving.

If you like I will post the stats here these guys aint like the chaps on UK WM's shaving is shaving which means theft.

You are an abusive sad old man who really is starting to get on my........

Quote - As for NoChex Paul.. Don't you ever stop moaning... I gave you a lot of help when you started and you ignored all my advise.. I have ICQ history to back this up.. Your ideas sucked so didn't sell.. I told you from day one.. So blame yourself .. Not anyone else... I made a special point that the font you wanted to use was totally out of date and advised you not to use it but you did, as an example of how I tried to help -

Your help sucks , all you need to do is stop sending affiliate traffic to your tgp then back to your join pages. You also need to stop offering 3 billing options which are NOT tracked by ccbill.

If you cant convert a single user of qualified SE & LL traffic then you have issues, apart from the ones which are.

Other users please be warned this man posts under different names to boost his creditbility - ie by answering his own posts, basically from my experience and the experience of others joe you suck big time

[eman]

Sad!

I watched the TV prog about Sahara and it looked like she was set to be a superstar. She's smart enough!

[SmithsMedia]

Originally Posted by eman

Sad!

I watched the TV prog about Sahara and it looked like she was set to be a superstar. She's smart enough!

well by all accounts sales went through the roof for Joe A's affiliates due to her TV appearence, just not mine nor ANYONE elses in the UK I work with - OH FFS (the fake name joe posts under in the UK) he saw amazing turnovers by placing a thumb on his page - to this date the guy has failed to even list the page - It stinks the whole lot, set up tours leaks number of processors - you name it.

I really do have to draw a line under this once and for all - I certainly am gutted hes on GG hes like a bad smell I can't get rid of!

[Joe A]

Paul

You really are a fool..

You can find me anywhere under just one name .. The one I use here. Why not contact Richard of the UK forum and I'm sure he can confirm that from the stats and IP used

Here's where I told you on ICQ about the font you wanted to use:

NOCHEXContact: joe you got an indian type for photo shop?
Joe A: Samarkan but it's played to death.. I'm getting rid of it from my sites slowly but surely. I started using it in early 2001... Now the whole world uses it

There was advise # 1 you ignored... Do you want me to post more.. ?


And Paul.. If you post a flame I have the right to reply... You can't stand the smell.. LEAVE

Eman

We had a lot of fun making the programme.. It's a shame that time was limited as they filmed a lot more of the fun we had... Some of it too strong to be broadcast, specially from my birthday party

Sahara does have it and I'm sure she will do even better as time passes. She's off to LA for 4-6 weeks soon to work..

[SmithsMedia]

Joe you cause the flame with your foul abusive mouth - Joe stats don't lie BUT you do and you have admited to shaivnig in black and white on the UK board - the last thing I wont if for sme guy to fall for you crap on here and start promoting you, people here are webmasters in the affiliate sense, the guys on the UK boards are paysite owners, and theres you - Im always going to have an opinion of your programmeI tried discussing it with you though you got abusive - You understanding me yet!

[Cleo]

Someone pass me the

[swedguy]

I'll have Joe send over some whine to go with the popcorn.

[Joe A]

Here is more of the help I gave you at the end of March which you totally ignored:

NOCHEXContact: (Link: http://www.free-indian-porn.co.uk/fr...npicture/html/ - this one I am making now
Joe A: HEADER.gif on that page doesn't look clean or cleaaar.. I can't read the last word at all
Joe A: anglo indian ???????
NOCHEXContact: yeah the header is supposed to be blured
Joe A: I think you missed the "H" out of Sahara as well... LOL
NOCHEXContact: where
Joe A: In the header image on (Link: http://www.free-indian-porn.co.uk/fr....co.uk/f(Link: http://www.free-indian-porn.co.uk/fr...npicture/html/
Joe A: If the last word is meant to be Sahara it reads as Saara
Joe A: And... You've missed out a "T" in hottest I think(Link: http://www.free-indian-porn.co.uk/fr...e/html/)(Link: http://www.free-indian-porn.co.uk/fr...npicture/html/)
Joe A: You have I just did a spell check
NOCHEXContact: wheres it read saaarh
Joe A: In the line that starts INSTANT ACCESS .. You have HOTEST ANGLO instead of HOTTEST
Joe A: Use a spell check before publishing as you are making the same mistakes with her damn name... LOL
NOCHEXContact: i can see that - I cant see the sarah typo
Joe A: Saraha ... Is an example... ROTFLMAO .. I do that all the time
NOCHEXContact: hername is not in my spell check give me the righ spelling
Joe A: sahara
Joe A: Check all your pages
NOCHEXContact: how have I spealt it
Joe A: If I didn't know better I could swear you were Allan of UK Sweets twin brother... LOL
Joe A: Saraha
Joe A: All over (Link: http://www.free-indian-porn.co.uk/fr...an-porn/(Link: http://www.free-indian-porn.co.uk/fr...npicture/html/
Joe A: On this URL (Link: http://www.free-indian-porn.co.uk/fr...-indian-(Link: http://www.free-indian-porn.co.uk/fr.../html/main.htm Only the header is wrong with the H missing
NOCHEXContact: i CANT SEE THAT ONE lol
Joe A: It's that damn blurred white/red script you've used... LOL

NEXT from 2-5 April:

Session Start (61867184:NOCHEXContact): Sat Apr 02 20:35:19 2005
*** NOTE: This user is offline. Your messages will be received when he/she logs into ICQ.
Joe A: A present for you as you're sending traffic directly to sign up page: (Link: http://www.saharagetsdirty.com/ccind...m/ccindex2.htm

Session Close (NOCHEXContact): Sat Apr 02 20:36:13 2005


Session Start (61867184:NOCHEXContact): Sun Apr 03 01:47:03 2005
NOCHEXContact: cheers joe :-)
*** "NOCHEXContact" signed off at Sun Apr 03 01:48:00 2005.
Joe A: I did it for another pal who's doing the same on another project for the site.. So .. You got it and it workes.. My pal has downloaded that page to his own domain
Joe A: As you see no clear card or nochex anywhere
Joe A: In fact... I'll send an email out to all affiliate during the week offering this direct link
Session Close (NOCHEXContact): Sun Apr 03 01:51:31 2005


Then after I gave you that link....

Session Start (61867184:NOCHEXContact): Tue Apr 05 15:44:02 2005
Joe A: ypu're still linking to the old sign up page on (Link: http://www.free-indian-porn.co.uk/)h...n.co.uk/(Link: http://www.free-indian-porn.co.uk/)
Session Close (NOCHEXContact): Tue Apr 05 15:47:31 2005


You didn't bother relying to that..

I also uploaded quite few folders to your server with pics that were clean of the watermark for you to use and how much more help was there...

You then posted at the end of April moaning... And you still had the old link... J Traffic made a valid point on the forum and by email as he has always made sales and so didd FFS who you do know and he's another non fan of yours... Get a life of your own..

And I'm now waiting for Kit to comment on the apology I received and posted above..

I'm such a bad guy... DUH. Please post a list of spomsors who would give as much time to one affiliate trying to help them... I bet the list will be very short... LOL

[Mr. Blue]

Originally Posted by Cleo

Someone pass me the

Salt or Butter?

[MrMaryLou]

Extra Butter on mine please

[kit]

2 Joe A

We've published your exclusive content (in your site review on porninspector.com) by mistake. And really sorry for that. Another thing: You sent to us 12-hour ultimatum for immediate content deletion and after sent abuses to our hosting, and other organizations. We manage 5 big projects and sometimes can't answer very fast to requests. When I read your letters, you already sent abuses to all. Also, you accuse me: I have bogus info in domain whois. This is a lie. All info is correct, you just need to learn how to call internation telephone number.

After all I tell you: Your content removed from all our resources. Completely and forever.

PS. You can remove your link to FreeHostedGalleries.com . I'm afraid to list something related to your program.

[Joe A]

I suggest that you study the law related to DMCA action.

When a DMCA notice is served it is sent to the offending domain, their host, cc processor if necessary and the upstream provider. This is not abuse, but how the matter is dealt with. Contact your lawyers and they will confirm this is 100% correct. I should also have sent a signed fax for it to be served correctly, but there is no fax number on your whois. What I did find funny, was that one of your admin then asked me who they should email to confirm removal of the material. For such a professional company who received one DMCA notice that listed all it had been served on, you should have known who to reply to.

I keep a sample DMCA notice on line for others who find their copyright material being used without permission. This has been openly available to all since 2001, which is how long I have been sending them to domains who ignore my original request.

Finally why ignore the apology I received from Andrei who admitted to errors. That wasn't necessary but he sent it and it was appreciated.

[Cleo]

Joe A maybe you should take up reading books. May I suggest this one to start, How to Win Friends & Influence People.

I do feel kind of bad for Sahara having you promoting her.

[Joe A]

Cleo

It seems I have to play with you, one my favourite retards, once more.. But a better idea would be for you to stick to eating popcorn, as the point you made in your first post.

You have to jump in.. Who do you think got Sahara all the exposure on tv and in the press, and in fact introduced her to the adult industry ?... If you have any friends in the adult biz in the UK and they know me, they can tell you the whole story.... But then again the question is.. Do you have any friends anywhere... If by the odd chance you do know someone in the UK, ask them to record the radio programme I'm now involved with about the adult industry. It is due to be a two part programme aired in June by the BBC I'll post the time and date when I know.. I wouldn't want you to miss it

If the tv programme is aired in the States, you'll find out just a little more about me and realise that you are making a fool of yourself

So, as once more you don't know what you're talking about I suggest you keep out of this one.. Or does your female characteristics force you to stick your nose in..

To finish with this time... If someone is going to have a go at me, would you please make it a little more intelligent, as I'm bored with having to lower my standards to reply to your current spate of childish comments.

[Cleo]

It is tragic yet somehow amusing watching someone self destruct over time on the boards.

Guess I better put another batch or two of on.

[Kinky]

it's really amazing that you talk yourself up so much Joe when you have lost so much business from this board alone... nice "clean" new tour for your affiliates by the way... wonder where you got that idea?

[Joe A]

Oh Cleo...

Moi.. self destruct.. Mais non ma petite idiot...

Is that the best you can come back with ? Can you make an intelligent post ? If not why bother ? I await something that is contructive criticism, instead of your poor attempts at one line sarcasm. I know it's not American style humour as that's my favourite and I understand it very well.

Sorry but only 1/10 for your last post... You must try harder..

[Joe A]

Kinky what biz have I lost from this board... I have actually gained quite a lot.. A post I made that was ignored actually thanked Tommy of the Bookmarks and others for their help..

The result being that when I started working with these people my own sales went up from one a day to two, before anyone tries to be clever Seriously Tommy and others have helped a lot. I had never submitted galleries etc. before and in no specific order, Richards Realm, Tommy, Shemp, Bravs Babe Rankings, Movie Fiend and others have been great to me

You also have to remember all press whether good or bad, is press and gives people the incentive to find out more.

[Kinky]

maybe I shouldn't say "lost" but you could have gained alot more... you could have had your HFS and galleries on a lot of high traffic link lists if you would have listened to a few people instead of calling us all "retards"... it's good that Tommy and others helped you with your galleries, too bad you didn't listen to a few others also

[Joe A]

Kinky

Thanks for the first post that is intelligent.. That's not sarcas by the way..

Having seen many tgp's over the years I have to say that I hate them. Most use trading scripts and I've tested many as a surfer. Some of which took up to 10 attempts to get to the intended gallery. I now prefer to work with the people I know and respect for the way they run their sites, rather than have affiliates who send traffic from a tgp if I'm lucky. I must be honest and say that the only name from those here who I recognise is Cleo, apart from those I named before, from her links/tgp's and so not having her on my side is no loss. I have survived for 6 years in this biz without her and others like her so I haven't lost anything. As far as I'm concerned traffic from 99% of tgps/links sites is just surfers looking for freebies and they just burn bandwidth.

I prefer to choose who I work with at the moment and it seems to work better this way. To be honest... I loved the old days when we didn't need to have FHG etc. We made a few galleries ourselves ,promoted them here and there, affiliates linked to our tours and we made sales. Now we sponsors have to do everything for most affiliates as everyone wants to be one but they have even less knowledge than me... LOL

Finally.. And I'm not having a go.. Let's be honest.. How many people on any forums have ever met face to face. I am the one who Cleo and her motley crew love to put down.. It keeps their tiny minds active. I'm pleased I managed to get to Internext twice back in 2001, as I'm still in contact with many of the people I met there in person. In fact my first meeting with anyone from CCBill was at those shows, and it was me screaming at them... Now I'd do anything for them as they do for me and I chat to one or two of them now and again on the phone, as I do others who are too far away to see these days. Never judge a book by it's cover

[SmithsMedia]

abuse

• verb /byooz/ 1 use improperly or to excess. 2 treat with cruelty or violence, especially assault sexually. 3 speak to in an insulting and offensive way.

• noun /byooss/ 1 the improper use of something. 2 cruel and violent treatment, especially sexual assault. 3 insulting and offensive language.

— DERIVATIVES abuser noun.

— ORIGIN Latin abuti ‘misuse’.

Source Oxford Englisg Dictionary

http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/abuse?view=uk