Let's talk about cookies

[SheepGuy]

Any paysite owners out there that offer cookies that last more than one day?
There are a lot of paysite owners that don't.

http://cook.xirinet.com/

[Ms Naughty]

Hmm. That tool says the wrong thing about FTG... maybe it can't cope with CCBill sites?

[SheepGuy]

That's possible, there's another tool out there, it was mentioned on OTB but I don't remember the name.

[Nymph]

After being at OTB today, I did a litle research with a link Emmy shared with us (same one you posted sheepy).

This is my list of sponsors, and the results I came up with....

Adult Date Link = 30 Days
Adult Elite = 0 Days
Adult Master Cash = 7 Days
AEBN = 0 Days
ARS = 0
Assasin Cash = 7 Days 1 Second
Adult Webmaster Empire (AWE) = 30 Days
Bad Girl Bucks = 10 Days 1 Minute 11 Seconds
Bang Bros = 30 Days
Boob Bucks - 10 Days 1 Minute 2 Seconds
Cash Maniacs = 0 Days
Cash Temptation = 7 Days
Curvy Cash = 2 Days
Dee Cash = 365 Days 1 Minute 10 Seconds
Drawn Cash = 30 Days
Extreme Paychecks = 10 Days 1 Minute 11 Seconds
Favourite Cash = 1 Day
Ferro Cash = 255 Days
Fetish Hits = 30 Days
Flash Cash = 10 Days 1 Minute 10 Seconds
Gamma Cash = 0 Days
Guerilla Traffic = 0 Days
Hentai Biz = 7 Days
I'm Live = 0 Days
JayMan Cash = 10 Days 1 Minute 10 Seconds
Jenna Cash = 2 Days
Jugg Cash = 10 Days 1 Minute 9 Seconds
Lion Dollars = 365 Days
Mansion Cash = 0 Days
Max Cash = 0 Days
Medium Pimpin = 30 Days 1 Minutes 10 Seconds
More Fucking Money = 255 Days 10 Seconds
Movie Room = 0 Days
Nasty Dollars = 1 Day
Niche Pay = 10 Days 1 Minute 10 Seconds
Niches Sites = 10 Days 1 Minute 11 Seconds
Niche Wealth = 0 Days
NS Cash = 30 Days
Nubiles Net = ?
OC Cash = 30 Days 1 Minutes 10 Seconds
Phil Flash Cash = 3 Days 10 Seconds
Pimproll = 0 Days
Porn Megabucks = 0 Days
Pornstar Dollars = 10 Days 1 Minute 10 Seconds
Purple Dollars = 3 Days 10 Seconds
Rage Cash = 10 Days 1 Minute 10 Seconds
Royal Cash = 30 Days
Sapphic Cash = 3650 Days 1 Minute 10 Seconds
Score Cash = 30 Days 1 Minute 10 Seconds
Serious Coin = 366 Days
Sextronix = 7 Days
Sexy Ads = 0 Days
Sic Cash = 0 Days
Silver Cash = 10 Days 1 Minute 11 Seconds
Sonia Cash = ?
Spice Cash = 0 Days
Spooky Cash = 0 Days
Stories Traffic = 30 Days 1 Minute 10 Seconds
Strapon Cash = 30 Days 1 Minute 10 Seconds
Sunny Dollars = 0 Days
Thrill Bucks = 0 Days
Top Bucks = 120 Days
Totem Cash = 31 Days
Traffic Gigalos = 10 Days 1 Minute 9 Seconds
Tushy Cash = ?
Vivid Cash = 1 Day 4 Minutes
Webcams.Com = 30 Days
WEG Cash = 1 Day
Wicked Bucks = 10 Days 1 Minute 10 Seconds
Xon Demand = 10950 Days
Yetis Cash = 180 Days 11 Seconds

The ones with a "?" are ccbill, and wouldn't run through, so no data for those.

I can see I'm going to start moving around who I'm pushing the most, and quite possibly dropping a few.

[Twiceshy]

I can see i will be doing the same we work hard to push sponsors at least they could give better cookie life . i been going through my list as well and will be hunting for new sponsors to replace the ones that give me 0 days .Im in this to make money not to give my sales away. Ihave to say thumbs up to the sponsors that give great cookie life to us.

[NY Jester]

Yeah no cookie life is just another way to keep the type in traffic as well as bookmarkers who come back when the timing to surf porn is "better"

[Nymph]

Originally Posted by NY Jester

Yeah no cookie life is just another way to keep the type in traffic as well as bookmarkers who come back when the timing to surf porn is "better"

Take into consideration that most people live paycheck to paycheck.

If they hit one of your links in the middle of a pay period, and don't have the money right then to buy, but come back later, you're SOL for your commission money for sending them there in the first place.

[Twiceshy]

Well here are a few more that were not on Nymph's list im sure ihave more to add

Adult Pay Master = 0 days
Adult Profit = 1 day
bondage bank = 10 days
Adult Friendfinder = 30 days
Cash Traffic = 0 days
CECash = 0 days
Click Me Media = 0 days
Easy Date = 360 days
Favourite Cash = 1 day ( 0 days on bookmarkers)
FetishWealth = 365 days, 1 minutes, 11 seconds
TrafficCashGold = 0 days
SlickCash = 10 days
Hustler Cash = 7 days
21Sextury Cash = 10 days, 1 minutes, 11 seconds
Lotzadollars = 180 days, 1 minutes, 10 seconds
Nichepass = 3 days
Kinky Dollars = 10 days, 1 minutes, 11 seconds
MrSkinCash = 30 days, 1 minutes, 10 seconds
MaxCash = 0 days

[MadCat]

I wrote that tool and it does in fact have some issues with CCbill links, mostly because CCBill link codes tend to get mangled if you apply proper web standards to its encoding and such. Will fix this some time soon when I have some time

[LD]

Interesting thread, and something I should pay more attention to.

[Nymph]

I forgot to add in the product stores I use (meds, toys, & such)

Evidence Eliminator = 365 Days
Extreme Restraints = 30 Days
Market Health = 30 Days
PE Cash = 0 Days
SexToySex = 0 Days

[bluebrit]

Thanks for starting the thread Sheepguy

Originally Posted by MadCat

I wrote that tool

That's a very handy tool MadCat

You ladies and gents are ahead of me on your research. I was just getting into cookie checking when we started discussing them on OTB so ty for posting your results. It saves me a little time and if I come across any sponsors not already listed, I'll add them to those you have already shown on this thread.

[Licker4U]

Kudos to nymph and Twice for posting! I think we all need to e-mail our sponsors that are on those lists and ask WTF and why?

[Licker4U]

I added Reality Cash and Niche Green

21Sextury Cash = 10 days, 1 minutes, 11 seconds
Adult Date Link = 30 Days
Adult Elite = 0 Days
Adult Friendfinder = 30 days
Adult Master Cash = 7 Days
Adult Pay Master = 0 days
Adult Profit = 1 day
AEBN = 0 Days
ARS = 0
Assasin Cash = 7 Days 1 Second
Adult Webmaster Empire (AWE) = 30 Days
Bad Girl Bucks = 10 Days 1 Minute 11 Seconds
Bang Bros = 30 Days
bondage bank = 10 days
Boob Bucks - 10 Days 1 Minute 2 Seconds
Cash Maniacs = 0 Days
Cash Temptation = 7 Days
Cash Traffic = 0 days
CECash = 0 days
Click Me Media = 0 days
Curvy Cash = 2 Days
Dee Cash = 365 Days 1 Minute 10 Seconds
Drawn Cash = 30 Days
Easy Date = 360 days
Evidence Eliminator = 365 Days
Extreme Paychecks = 10 Days 1 Minute 11 Seconds
Extreme Restraints = 30 Days
Favourite Cash = 1 Day
Ferro Cash = 255 Days
Fetish Hits = 30 Days
FetishWealth = 365 days, 1 minutes, 11 seconds
Flash Cash = 10 Days 1 Minute 10 Seconds
Gamma Cash = 0 Days
Guerilla Traffic = 0 Days
Hentai Biz = 7 Days
Hustler Cash = 7 days
I'm Live = 0 Days
JayMan Cash = 10 Days 1 Minute 10 Seconds
Jenna Cash = 2 Days
Jugg Cash = 10 Days 1 Minute 9 Seconds
Kinky Dollars = 10 days, 1 minutes, 11 seconds
Lion Dollars = 365 Days
Lotzadollars = 180 days, 1 minutes, 10 seconds
Mansion Cash = 0 Days
Market Health = 30 Days
Max Cash = 0 Days
Medium Pimpin = 30 Days 1 Minutes 10 Seconds
More Fucking Money = 255 Days 10 Seconds
Movie Room = 0 Days
MrSkinCash = 30 days, 1 minutes, 10 seconds
Nasty Dollars = 1 Day
Nichepass = 3 days
Niche Pay = 10 Days 1 Minute 10 Seconds
Niche Green = 0 days
Niches Sites = 10 Days 1 Minute 11 Seconds
Niche Wealth = 0 Days
NS Cash = 30 Days
Nubiles Net = ?
OC Cash = 30 Days 1 Minutes 10 Seconds
PE Cash = 0 Days
Phil Flash Cash = 3 Days 10 Seconds
Pimproll = 0 Days
Porn Megabucks = 0 Days
Pornstar Dollars = 10 Days 1 Minute 10 Seconds
Purple Dollars = 3 Days 10 Seconds
Rage Cash = 10 Days 1 Minute 10 Seconds
Reality Cash = 0 days
Royal Cash = 30 Days
Sapphic Cash = 3650 Days 1 Minute 10 Seconds
Score Cash = 30 Days 1 Minute 10 Seconds
Serious Coin = 366 Days
SexToySex = 0 Days
Sextronix = 7 Days
Sexy Ads = 0 Days
Sic Cash = 0 Days
Silver Cash = 10 Days 1 Minute 11 Seconds
SlickCash = 10 days
Sonia Cash = ?
Spice Cash = 0 Days
Spooky Cash = 0 Days
Stories Traffic = 30 Days 1 Minute 10 Seconds
Strapon Cash = 30 Days 1 Minute 10 Seconds
Sunny Dollars = 0 Days
Thrill Bucks = 0 Days
Top Bucks = 120 Days
Totem Cash = 31 Days
TrafficCashGold = 0 days
Traffic Gigalos = 10 Days 1 Minute 9 Seconds
Tushy Cash = ?
Vivid Cash = 1 Day 4 Minutes
Webcams.Com = 30 Days
WEG Cash = 1 Day
Wicked Bucks = 10 Days 1 Minute 10 Seconds
Xon Demand = 10950 Days
Yetis Cash = 180 Days 11 Seconds

[MadCat]

I'll fix up the tool sooner or later (heh... no time no time arrrrghhh) and have it generate lists like the one above for easy viewing At least, once I get around to sorting out all the URL's. People have been busy with it and it's got a shitload of URLs to check every day

[xcore]

XCoreCash = 30 days

[Simon]

Evidence Eliminator = 365 Days

Please keep in mind that promoting programs like Evidence Eliminator (and others) can also lead to lower commission on other sponsors, since anyone who buys those products will now have a tool which deletes all their cookies for them automatically. So it can hurt not only the original webmaster who made the sale for Evidence Eliminator, but every other webmaster whose site is later surfed by the EE user. All webmasters really should boycott any and all products which wipe out the cookies stored in a surfer's browser. The only people helped by these products are all the sponsors who don't have to pay any affiliate commissions once someone is using any of the automatic cookie killers.

[Nymph]

Originally Posted by Simon

Please keep in mind that promoting programs like Evidence Eliminator (and others) can also lead to lower commission on other sponsors, since anyone who buys those products will now have a tool which deletes all their cookies for them automatically. So it can hurt not only the original webmaster who made the sale for Evidence Eliminator, but every other webmaster whose site is later surfed by the EE user. All webmasters really should boycott any and all products which wipe out the cookies stored in a surfer's browser. The only people helped by these products are all the sponsors who don't have to pay any affiliate commissions once someone is using any of the automatic cookie killers.

I don't use them dear, it was an old one from many moons ago I still had in my bookmarks.

[Simon]

I didn't think you were. That's why I didn't quote it as yours and just used the information as a general warning to those who don't already know about those things.

[lesbodojo]

We're at 180 days

[rooty]

I wrote a cookie testing tool for ccbill... not as fancy as MadCat's but it does the job

http://www.onlyccbill.com/cookie_checker.php

Oh nice meeting some of you at the Amsterdam meetup it was awesome!

[LD]

Originally Posted by rooty

I wrote a cookie testing tool for ccbill... not as fancy as MadCat's but it does the job

http://www.onlyccbill.com/cookie_checker.php

Oh nice meeting some of you at the Amsterdam meetup it was awesome!

Seems to work great! Thanks!!

[MadCat]

Originally Posted by rooty

I wrote a cookie testing tool for ccbill... not as fancy as MadCat's but it does the job

http://www.onlyccbill.com/cookie_checker.php

Oh nice meeting some of you at the Amsterdam meetup it was awesome!

Awesome rooty

[LD]

What would be considered resonable? 30 days? 2 weeks? At what point are you getting screwed?

[Simon]

Ideally a cookie should never expire, LD... anything shorter than that, someone is taking your traffic and refusing to pay you for the surfer you originally sent to them. We used to use 255 days since that was the max CCBill could do. Otherwise I'd have set it to never expire. Why wouldn't I want to pay the original affiliate? Seriously, that's the question some sponsors answer the wrong fucking way.