Google Updating backlinks etc.

[DangerDave]

Here we go again.........

#1 - Everyone take a VALIUM and relax!

#2 - Don't even think that the update is over - simply because it isn't.

#3 - NEVER take Google advice from GFY.

#4 - [Opinion]This update is following the same pattern as every other update I have seen since I started watching Google closely.

Most of your terms that are "lost" at the moment, will be back, often in a slightly lower position that you were previously, and then over the next weeks they should/may return to their original position.[/Opinion]

#5 - Google is already returning many results to their usual positions - http://www2.google.com/search?source...e=UTF-8&q=porn (You may see older results dependent on your position in the world, and the cache of your ISP etc/etc/etc)

#6 - Making judgements on results DURING an update is a complete waste of time.

#7 - [Opinion] There should be a PR update following the Results update. This may or may not be displayed in the "Google Toolbar"[/Opinion]

#8 - [Opinion] Once the PR update has occurred, there will be a further adjustment of the results and removal of spam[/Opinion]

#9 - As soon as the full update is over, Google will go back to it's usual daily adjustments of the results.

#10 - The appearance of 'non-adult' porn pages in the porn results happens EVERYTIME there is a full update, and they disappear or move down in the results as the update finishes.

#11 - Get back to work!



DD

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[CaptainJSparrow]

Right on, DD...usually happens just like that everytime.

Jay, this morning I hear that alot of folks couldn't get to the paysites partnership areas to check stats plus ICQ was down. I've even heard tell that some sort of virus shut down parts of the 'net...so you may not have been hammered as much as you think.

[xxxjay]

Originally posted by DangerDave
Here we go again.........

#1 - Everyone take a VALIUM and relax!

#2 - Don't even think that the update is over - simply because it isn't.

#3 - NEVER take Google advice from GFY.

#4 - [Opinion]This update is following the same pattern as every other update I have seen since I started watching Google closely.

Most of your terms that are "lost" at the moment, will be back, often in a slightly lower position that you were previously, and then over the next weeks they should/may return to their original position.[/Opinion]

#5 - Google is already returning many results to their usual positions - http://www2.google.com/search?source...e=UTF-8&q=porn (You may see older results dependent on your position in the world, and the cache of your ISP etc/etc/etc)

#6 - Making judgements on results DURING an update is a complete waste of time.

#7 - [Opinion] There should be a PR update following the Results update. This may or may not be displayed in the "Google Toolbar"[/Opinion]

#8 - [Opinion] Once the PR update has occurred, there will be a further adjustment of the results and removal of spam[/Opinion]

#9 - As soon as the full update is over, Google will go back to it's usual daily adjustments of the results.

#10 - The appearance of 'non-adult' porn pages in the porn results happens EVERYTIME there is a full update, and they disappear or move down in the results as the update finishes.

#11 - Get back to work!



DD

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Good post Dave.

[Rocco]

Thanks Dave - let's hope the best...

[doublep]

Originally posted by DangerDave
Here we go again.........

#1 - Everyone take a VALIUM and relax!

Try Yoga - much better for you

#2 - Don't even think that the update is over - simply because it isn't.

Looks like it is settling down now.

#3 - NEVER take Google advice from GFY.

GFY who!

#4 - [Opinion]This update is following the same pattern as every other update I have seen since I started watching Google closely.

Most of your terms that are "lost" at the moment, will be back, often in a slightly lower position that you were previously, and then over the next weeks they should/may return to their original position.[/Opinion]

It is - with the exception that a lot of big established sites have been hit hard - unusually so!

#5 - Google is already returning many results to their usual positions - http://www2.google.com/search?source...e=UTF-8&q=porn (You may see older results dependent on your position in the world, and the cache of your ISP etc/etc/etc)

See 10

#6 - Making judgements on results DURING an update is a complete waste of time.

aggree

#7 - [Opinion] There should be a PR update following the Results update. This may or may not be displayed in the "Google Toolbar"[/Opinion]

most likey

#8 - [Opinion] Once the PR update has occurred, there will be a further adjustment of the results and removal of spam[/Opinion]

Yes.. some spam will be removed, some spam will be added.

#9 - As soon as the full update is over, Google will go back to it's usual daily adjustments of the results.

Yes.

#10 - The appearance of 'non-adult' porn pages in the porn results happens EVERYTIME there is a full update, and they disappear or move down in the results as the update finishes.

This is true. And I predict that there will be more and more 'non adult' sites appearing in the serps for high ranked keywords - and staying there, especially single and 2 words. Look out for more news sites, informational sites, anti porn and porn addiction sites - humour sites, religious sites.. et al.. in short, any site that's whole purpose is to cull their traffic and then send them to a sponsor (and I think that applies to us all here - right ;-) will be marginalised for these keywords in the future.. Why? - Simple - there has been one big change to Google aside from the filters and algos that are being applied right now - and that is Google now has share holders. Share holders like to see the value of their stock rise every quarter - Google has to increase it's revenue to keep these shareholders happy - giving away free traffic to us makes their share holders NOTHING! - The ads on the right do! See where I'm coming from on this? Take a look at this below in the screen cap - The name of my site is being used (mondoerotica) to pull ads - this started today! Will they be using the names of your sites to pull ads in the future - if they can get away with it, you better believe it boy and girls!

Here is the screen cap!

Here are some keywords to watch out for over the months - pay close attention to the results above the fold:

http://www3.google.com/search?num=10...ex+show+online

http://www3.google.com/search?num=10...afe=off&q=porn

http://www3.google.com/search?num=10...=Internet+porn

http://www3.google.com/search?num=10...off&q=net+porn

http://www3.google.com/search?num=10...f&q=sex+online

http://www3.google.com/search?num=10...ve+porn+online

http://www3.google.com/search?num=10...f&q=sex+online

http://www3.google.com/search?num=10...porn+downloads

http://www3.google.com/search?num=10...=porn+download

http://www3.google.com/search?num=10...ff&q=porn+star

http://www3.google.com/search?source...ie=UTF-8&q=xxx

http://www3.google.com/search?num=10...off&q=hardcore

http://www3.google.com/search?num=10...f&q=porn+story

#11 - Get back to work!



DD

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Now of course this is just opinion and my little theory - you all may even think I'm crazy - but If I'm wrong - I'll come back and eat humble pie - If I am right - you all owe me a fucking blowjob!! But I'll settle for a Johnny D (No Ice)

Cheers!!

[stuveltje]

When i came back from my 6 weeks holiday i notice my traffic went up to my Lls, now i dont have tons of traffic but i was working to get more traffic to the site, it seems i did good, till a week after that, my traffic went down and alot, i hardly deared to check my stats, i have heard more lls owners having the same thing, i quess we just have to hope google will be nice again , and all will be back like it never happend, and in the meantime i am going to work harder

[Opti]

Originally posted by doublep
This is true. And I predict that there will be more and more 'non adult' sites appearing in the serps for high ranked keywords - and staying there, especially single and 2 words. Look out for more news sites, informational sites, anti porn and porn addiction sites - humour sites, religious sites.. et al.. in short, any site that's whole purpose is to cull their traffic and then send them to a sponsor (and I think that applies to us all here - right ;-) will be marginalised for these keywords in the future.. Why? - Simple - there has been one big change to Google aside from the filters and algos that are being applied right now - and that is Google now has share holders. Share holders like to see the value of their stock rise every quarter - Google has to increase it's revenue to keep these shareholders happy - giving away free traffic to us makes their share holders NOTHING! - The ads on the right do! See where I'm coming from on this? Take a look at this below in the screen cap - The name of my site is being used (mondoerotica) to pull ads - this started today! Will they be using the names of your sites to pull ads in the future - if they can get away with it, you better believe it boy and girls!

Here is the screen cap!

Not sure if that is the full reason behind changes in last 2 updates as yet... but what you say is pretty logical and that stuff should really be expected from any public company as they focus on maximising shareholder profit.



http://www.mondoerotica.net/mondo-google.html <-- I bet a lot of people have addressed this issue with google over time.. I'm not really sure of right way to go... but if you don't like it, I think you need to tell Google that or you will lose your right to complain later by ignoring it now.

I had heard Girls Gine Wild people had tried to stop google showing ads for that result phrase.. (might be a rumour though)
http://www.google.com/search?safe=off&q=girls+gone+wild

there is only 1 ad there I see now... but it appears they didn't manage to convince Google not to sell ads.

[doublep]

Originally posted by Opti

http://www.mondoerotica.net/mondo-google.html <-- I bet a lot of people have addressed this issue with google over time.. I'm not really sure of right way to go... but if you don't like it, I think you need to tell Google that or you will lose your right to complain later by ignoring it now.

I had heard Girls Gine Wild people had tried to stop google showing ads for that result phrase.. (might be a rumour though)
http://www.google.com/search?safe=off&q=girls+gone+wild

there is only 1 ad there I see now... but it appears they didn't manage to convince Google not to sell ads.

Email to google in the works mate - There is a company in Germany taking legal action right now, and others in the states.
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/040818/ukw005_1.html

In the example on the screen shot there is one ad, but I have seen another result (which are only appearing on the U.S version of Google by the way) with three.

[xxxjay]

Originally posted by DangerDave
Here we go again.........

#1 - Everyone take a VALIUM and relax!

#2 - Don't even think that the update is over - simply because it isn't.

#3 - NEVER take Google advice from GFY.

#4 - [Opinion]This update is following the same pattern as every other update I have seen since I started watching Google closely.

Most of your terms that are "lost" at the moment, will be back, often in a slightly lower position that you were previously, and then over the next weeks they should/may return to their original position.[/Opinion]

#5 - Google is already returning many results to their usual positions - http://www2.google.com/search?source...e=UTF-8&q=porn (You may see older results dependent on your position in the world, and the cache of your ISP etc/etc/etc)

#6 - Making judgements on results DURING an update is a complete waste of time.

#7 - [Opinion] There should be a PR update following the Results update. This may or may not be displayed in the "Google Toolbar"[/Opinion]

#8 - [Opinion] Once the PR update has occurred, there will be a further adjustment of the results and removal of spam[/Opinion]

#9 - As soon as the full update is over, Google will go back to it's usual daily adjustments of the results.

#10 - The appearance of 'non-adult' porn pages in the porn results happens EVERYTIME there is a full update, and they disappear or move down in the results as the update finishes.

#11 - Get back to work!



DD

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I was trying to be optimistic, but I am gonna say that this update is done. We will be stuck with these serps for a while.

[doublep]

Done and dusted for now! Anyone care to pick the bones out of this one? - It has been an update like no other in recent times - for adult, and non adult!

[urb]

This site is currently number 1 for porn on Google
http://drew.corrupt.net/bp/

What's going on at Rancho Googlo????

[doublep]

There are some interesting results in the top 100 there Urb - around 70% of those results are not 'porn' sites - but are relevent for the keyword - a smattering of links sites scraped in I see - JK, smutgremilins, and Tommy are there with one or 2 others.

[garv]

I'm noticing some PR updates and they seem as harsh as the latest search updates. however some of my sites that went white recently have recovered their full previous PR.

regards
garv

[Linkster]

PR and backlinks updating from where I sit - PR only updated in the directory so far as I can see - and directory results definitely shuffled around - and a large drop in the backlinks shown by Google on the link: command - which really doesnt mean anything anymore

[doublep]

Seeing a change in the serps again here!

[AcidMaX]

Originally posted by doublep
Seeing a change in the serps again here!

Yeah I posted that this morning too, seems like they are changing up again. Hopefully it brings me back to my old listings, cause the last couple weeks have been horrible.

[Corleone]

lost 50% of my google traffic |pissed|

[Wazza]

Got some urls Paul?

[doublep]

Originally posted by Wazza
Got some urls Paul?

Alright Wazza! I'm using a dance tool here on 1 2 & 3 and .ch with all kinds of phrases and KW's - the results seem to changing by the minute, settling a bit, then changing again - is this the last throws of the last update, or something new - god knows, but me head hurts! lol

Cheers.

[Wazza]

So what you're really saying is that your postulation is based on no real hard evidence. It's just a gut feeling and possibly a rumour being reported as fact. You journos never bloody change

Yeah this is attempted humour... gotta try to make light of a fucking disaster somehow...

[doublep]

Hehehehehe!! Stop associating me with those evil bastards!! ;-)

http://www.fuckedgoogle.com/

[Trax]

Originally posted by Linkster
PR and backlinks updating from where I sit - PR only updated in the directory so far as I can see - and directory results definitely shuffled around - and a large drop in the backlinks shown by Google on the link: command - which really doesnt mean anything anymore

you took it out of my mouth!

[xxxjay]

Google has been placing non-porn results up over porn reslults for a very long time now. This was a trend I observed years and and seems to continue. Get used to it, Google is a publicly traded company now and I'm sure there are investors have issues with porn.

I wouldn't get too worried though - Google knows where their bread is buttered. Over time you will probably see changes in the way people search or how far back they will look to find the free porn.

Things will adapt.