So ARS is collecting photo IDs for ePassporte

tickler · 2006-02-23, 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevin

Starting today we will be asking all webmasters using or applying for epassporte as a payment method to fax in a copy of your government issued photo ID showing an address, or government issued passport. Current webmasters can fax in a copy of their ID to1.866.316.9640 before or on March 10th. Make sure you include your account number. After March 10th, all accounts that do not verify this information will be automatically switched to receive a standard check payout method. Make sure all your account details are up to date.

After all the privacy concerns raised over 2257 and Google and Dubyahs spying, you would think some companies might have gotten the ideal that the mass collection of personal data is a no-no.

I don't even supply that kind of information to companies that I work for, let alone Amex, MC, Visa, Discover.

Surfn · 2006-02-23, 04:13 AM

They will lose most of their whales with this latest move.

Fonz · 2006-02-23, 04:55 AM

I tried to switch from check to ePassporte a couple of times but never got a response from ARS. So with even more (useless) rules I'll just stick by plain checks.

Greenguy · 2006-02-23, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by tickler

After all the privacy concerns raised over 2257 and Google and Dubyahs spying, you would think some companies might have gotten the ideal that the mass collection of personal data is a no-no.

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So you're upset that they will now have a picture of you to go along with your name, address, SS/TaxID number, etc....which they already have?

Anyone remember the old AVS/Processor Validate? I had to fax them a copy of my license back in 97 in order to get paid. Big deal.

Ramster · 2006-02-23, 07:20 AM

I agree that they already have ALL of our information already so a picture is really not a big deal. But I also agree that having to send in a photo is stupid. Hey ARS, you already have everything there is to know about us, name, our address, tax ID if American, ect.

Jim · 2006-02-23, 08:25 AM

I am kind of confused by this move. It doesn't seem to have anything to do with them having your picture, they just want to make sure that you are who you say your are. If it is for US tax purposes, it is even stranger since ePassporte uses offshore banks for transactions. They have probably been burned by fake US TINs for the IRS. It used to be a $20 per wrong TIN with the IRS and maybe they changed it now. Who knows???

GonZo · 2006-02-23, 08:43 AM

I dont have to worry about it. They have deleted my account.

Dr Bizzaro · 2006-02-23, 10:22 AM

They have my business info, not my personal info. I don't give my home address to ANYONE I do business with.
(Unless it happens to be a friend.)

Think I'll be switching back to a check......

Cleo · 2006-02-23, 11:00 AM

OK here is my pic

Fonz · 2006-02-23, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Cleo

OK here is my pic

Have you done something with your hair? It looks different.

Greenguy · 2006-02-23, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Bizzaro

They have my business info, not my personal info. I don't give my home address to ANYONE I do business with....

Is your ePass in your name or the company name?

If it's in the company name, then that does bring up a good question. Your personal photo ID isn't what you'd use to prove that your company is legit. Maybe a copy of the Fed Tax ID paperwork would do?

PR_Tom · 2006-02-23, 11:21 AM

I believe they want to see primarily the address on the ID.

Jim · 2006-02-23, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom

I believe they want to see primarily the address on the ID.

Yeah, that's what I am thinking too. I don't think a picture has anything to do with it.

JoeBlack · 2006-02-23, 02:41 PM

Call me paranoid but that is just to much for me.

If I was an unethical person and some how got access to all of that info I could make a shit load of fake identities. I could get a birth certificate an open up a number of accounts and loans under another name.

Yeah im just paranoid

This is a list of the info they will have :

Full Name
Home Address
Social Security
Phone Number

With license

Drivers License ID
Date of Birth

As of recent if you got a new license

A Digital Signature at the bottom right corner

Easy access to learning how to rewriting your name

My own mother doesnt even have all of this info so why would I hand it over to a big company who im not sure have control over all of there workers. There are sponsor companies out there who fire people everyday and all it would take is for one person to get that information and sell it to someone out there. I have a problem even giving my SS let alone the rest of the info.

So in short I will stick to my checks thank you very much

digifan · 2006-02-23, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Surfn

They will lose most of their whales with this latest move.

And they deserve it

digifan · 2006-02-23, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Cleo

OK here is my pic

Love it hon

Jim · 2006-02-23, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeBlack

Call me paranoid but that is just to much for me.

If I was an unethical person and some how got access to all of that info I could make a shit load of fake identities. I could get a birth certificate an open up a number of accounts and loans under another name.

Yeah im just paranoid

This is a list of the info they will have :

Full Name
Home Address
Social Security
Phone Number

With license

Drivers License ID
Date of Birth

As of recent if you got a new license

A Digital Signature at the bottom right corner

Easy access to learning how to rewriting your name

My own mother doesnt even have all of this info so why would I hand it over to a big company who im not sure have control over all of there workers. There are sponsor companies out there who fire people everyday and all it would take is for one person to get that information and sell it to someone out there. I have a problem even giving my SS let alone the rest of the info.

So in short I will stick to my checks thank you very much

If you are using a SSN, any program with it could steal your identity right now. Most people that ask for a driver's license number just use it for your security when there is a problem. I have 6 credit cards now. All with phoney driver's license numbers

Really because I have everything else memorized and I don't want to pull out my license.

gideon · 2006-02-23, 03:36 PM

ARS will make exceptions for its WHALES,(read: spammers and cheaters), they always do.

I can promise you they will not get my ID. I make sure that I have atleast 5 different addresses, numerous IPs, and WiFi connections and I stay pretty busy with travelling so that if, err WHEN, the Bush/PNAC/NeoKoNazi's come for me I will be nowhere and everywhere..

Peace,
- Gideon

DISCLAIMER: I know not all the Whales are cheaters and spammers but you go to almost any affiliate program and the top dollar dogs usually fit a typical profile

PR_Tom · 2006-02-23, 03:43 PM

Big whales are more likely to be typein, review site, PPC I'd say.

Anyway they've said on other boards that you can black out ss#'s, DL#'s etc etc. Has anyone ICQ'd them to please come check the board?
If it weeds out fraud, it's good for every sponsor. Heck I'll paste this thread to someone.

Toolz · 2006-02-23, 03:52 PM

We have had a problem with a large amount of fraudulent Epassporte accounts feel free to blockout your dl #, SS#, etc, we're comparing addresses on accounts to addresses on ID's for those webmaster choosing to be paid by Epassporte.

Jim: Yes copy of something from the government with your corp tax ID will be fine for corporations

Surfn: Um no, most whales don't care how their paid and accept checks.

Gideon: Thanks for the kind words we love you too

Again this is ONLY if you want Epassporte, we don't require ID for any other payment method, however as basically 1099 contractors earning thousands of dollars I find it funny that everyone questions our wanting to know who does biz with us.

EvilFubAr · 2006-02-23, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Ramster

I agree that they already have ALL of our information already so a picture is really not a big deal. But I also agree that having to send in a photo is stupid. Hey ARS, you already have everything there is to know about us, name, our address, tax ID if American, ect.

This is true, however we need to verify that what you entered is true information. We are not just looking for a photo of you, we need to verify your ID card or any information that matches your account details.

We know most of you are not scammers, but we need to have a filter in place. If this is in any way a problem for you please contact me or any ARS rep and we can work through a way to verify your information.

If you have a Buisness account we simple need to see a copy of Federal Tax ID paperwork.

ICQ 27236459

Cleo · 2006-02-23, 03:57 PM

Not really a big deal. I have Photoshop and know how to use it.

Greenguy · 2006-02-23, 03:59 PM

Toolz - I'm with you on this one.

People seem to forget that we are ALL Independent Contractors & if you walked into the ARS office today & got a job as an Independent Contractor, you'd be filling out forms (W9) & they'd be making copies of your driver's license & SS card.

PR_Tom · 2006-02-23, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Cleo

Not really a big deal. I have Photoshop and know how to use it.

I'm not sure why but this post made me laugh so much that I choked on my chex mix, lol.

Sorry no pics

Jim · 2006-02-23, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toolz

We have had a problem with a large amount of fraudulent Epassporte accounts feel free to blockout your dl #, SS#, etc, we're comparing addresses on accounts to addresses on ID's for those webmaster choosing to be paid by Epassporte.

Jim: Yes copy of something from the government with your corp tax ID will be fine for corporations

Surfn: Um no, most whales don't care how their paid and accept checks.

Gideon: Thanks for the kind words we love you too

Again this is ONLY if you want Epassporte, we don't require ID for any other payment method, however as basically 1099 contractors earning thousands of dollars I find it funny that everyone questions our wanting to know who does biz with us.

I just don't get it toolz, ePassporte is offshore. Why do you guys give a rat's ass?

2006-02-23, 04:13 AM	#2
Surfn If you don’t take a chance the Angels won’t dance Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Earth on occasion Posts: 8,812	They will lose most of their whales with this latest move. __________________ Surfn's Links Are you a partner?

2006-02-23, 04:55 AM	#3
Fonz Former pr0n slinger. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Antwerp, Belgium Posts: 7,929	I tried to switch from check to ePassporte a couple of times but never got a response from ARS. So with even more (useless) rules I'll just stick by plain checks. __________________ See how I abuse little trees on my Shumi no Bonsai Blog

2006-02-23, 07:20 AM	#5
Ramster Life is good Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 11,680	I agree that they already have ALL of our information already so a picture is really not a big deal. But I also agree that having to send in a photo is stupid. Hey ARS, you already have everything there is to know about us, name, our address, tax ID if American, ect. __________________ Pornstar Legends \| Live Cam Model Shows \| Hungarian Girls Skype: robmurray999

2006-02-23, 10:22 AM	#8
Dr Bizzaro I'm not interested in the facts, I'm interested in my opinion. Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,620	They have my business info, not my personal info. I don't give my home address to ANYONE I do business with. (Unless it happens to be a friend.) Think I'll be switching back to a check...... __________________ -DrBizzaro Make BIG $ selling text links! Sell Links and get $$

2006-02-23, 11:21 AM	#12
PR_Tom Nobody gets into heaven without a glowstick Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 423	I believe they want to see primarily the address on the ID. __________________ PimpRoll

2006-02-23, 08:25 AM	#6
Jim Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mohawk, New York Posts: 19,477	I am kind of confused by this move. It doesn't seem to have anything to do with them having your picture, they just want to make sure that you are who you say your are. If it is for US tax purposes, it is even stranger since ePassporte uses offshore banks for transactions. They have probably been burned by fake US TINs for the IRS. It used to be a $20 per wrong TIN with the IRS and maybe they changed it now. Who knows???

2006-02-23, 08:43 AM	#7
GonZo You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Atlanta,Ga Posts: 893	I dont have to worry about it. They have deleted my account.

2006-02-23, 02:41 PM	#14
JoeBlack I've always wondered if there was a god. And now I know there is -- and it's me Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 327	Call me paranoid but that is just to much for me. If I was an unethical person and some how got access to all of that info I could make a shit load of fake identities. I could get a birth certificate an open up a number of accounts and loans under another name. Yeah im just paranoid This is a list of the info they will have : Full Name Home Address Social Security Phone Number With license Drivers License ID Date of Birth As of recent if you got a new license A Digital Signature at the bottom right corner Easy access to learning how to rewriting your name My own mother doesnt even have all of this info so why would I hand it over to a big company who im not sure have control over all of there workers. There are sponsor companies out there who fire people everyday and all it would take is for one person to get that information and sell it to someone out there. I have a problem even giving my SS let alone the rest of the info. So in short I will stick to my checks thank you very much Last edited by JoeBlack; 2006-02-23 at 02:46 PM..

2006-02-23, 03:36 PM	#18
gideon They have the Internet on computers, now? Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Louisiana Posts: 145	ARS will make exceptions for its WHALES,(read: spammers and cheaters), they always do. I can promise you they will not get my ID. I make sure that I have atleast 5 different addresses, numerous IPs, and WiFi connections and I stay pretty busy with travelling so that if, err WHEN, the Bush/PNAC/NeoKoNazi's come for me I will be nowhere and everywhere.. Peace, - Gideon DISCLAIMER: I know not all the Whales are cheaters and spammers but you go to almost any affiliate program and the top dollar dogs usually fit a typical profile

2006-02-23, 03:43 PM	#19
PR_Tom Nobody gets into heaven without a glowstick Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 423	Big whales are more likely to be typein, review site, PPC I'd say. Anyway they've said on other boards that you can black out ss#'s, DL#'s etc etc. Has anyone ICQ'd them to please come check the board? If it weeds out fraud, it's good for every sponsor. Heck I'll paste this thread to someone. __________________ PimpRoll

2006-02-23, 03:52 PM	#20
Toolz If something goes wrong at the plant, blame the guy who can't speak English Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 33	We have had a problem with a large amount of fraudulent Epassporte accounts feel free to blockout your dl #, SS#, etc, we're comparing addresses on accounts to addresses on ID's for those webmaster choosing to be paid by Epassporte. Jim: Yes copy of something from the government with your corp tax ID will be fine for corporations Surfn: Um no, most whales don't care how their paid and accept checks. Gideon: Thanks for the kind words we love you too Again this is ONLY if you want Epassporte, we don't require ID for any other payment method, however as basically 1099 contractors earning thousands of dollars I find it funny that everyone questions our wanting to know who does biz with us.

2006-02-23, 03:57 PM	#22
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	Not really a big deal. I have Photoshop and know how to use it. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2006-02-23, 03:59 PM	#23
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,758	Toolz - I'm with you on this one. People seem to forget that we are ALL Independent Contractors & if you walked into the ARS office today & got a job as an Independent Contractor, you'd be filling out forms (W9) & they'd be making copies of your driver's license & SS card. __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network