Pride Bucks

Wazza · 2009-08-24, 10:35 PM

I signed up with these guys over the weekend... today I get an email from them...

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Webmaster,

I'm Steven Sheaffer, Affiliate Sales Manager from Pridebucks.com. We reviewed your affiliate account and have disabled it until we are able to verify you with other sponsors. Please provide us with a references to contact so that we can verify your good standing. Thank you.
Sincerely,
Steven Sheaffer

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My Reply...

I've been at this since 2001 and have never had any issue with any sponsor

How do you expect me to find "Steven Sheaffer" among the 2500 spams I get a day... pure luck I found the email... change it to Pride Bucks

Take care

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Anyhoo... my email gets returned...

----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
<steven@pridebucks.com>
(reason: 554 Your email is considered spam (6.00 spam-hits))

----- Transcript of session follows -----
... while talking to mail.pridebucks.com.:
>>> DATA
<<< 554 Your email is considered spam (6.00 spam-hits)
554 5.0.0 Service unavailable

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So, Steven...

First of all, let me add a bit to this - "and have never had any issue with any sponsor" - apart from the ones who changed from CCbill to Epoch to Verotel to MPA to NATS and didn't bother telling me, apart from the ones who changed bank accounts and told me not to bank their cheques 2 days after I had already banked them and then refused to even entertain the idea of paying the bank fees I was charged as a result, apart from the sponsors who went belly up and took my money with them, apart from the sponsors who closed sites and redirected my traffic somewhere else, apart from the sponsors who sold their sites to another program and didn't tell me...

I really could not be bothered bothering other sponsors to get you to believe that I'm not a crook... So, I'll find someone else to promote thanks

Unless of course you can email me the contact details of other webmasters who can vouch for the fact you pay on time and that your cheques don't bounce

Evil Chris · 2009-08-24, 10:45 PM

I wonder why your email was considered spam?

You pasted only the text you sent, but what's your signature look like in your outgoing mail?
I was having problems myself with my own ISP at one time because the emails being sent had too many URLs for my own ISP's liking. They weren't spam at all though.

As for the account verification... seems a bit much. Australia isn't typically on any watch lists.

Wazza · 2009-08-24, 10:55 PM

No sig... I assume it's because I used the word SPAM in my email... maybe it was the 2 urls and 3 contact numbers in his sig that tripped it... that would be pretty funny

I signed up for cheque not epassporte payments too...

I may have been quiet for some time - but many of the old hands know me...

nekrom · 2009-08-24, 11:42 PM

Gotta watch out for those Aussie webmasters, shifty the lot of em.

-N

Jel · 2009-08-25, 12:39 AM

That sucks mate, but a funny post

B O B · 2009-08-25, 01:02 PM

you know, with all the fraud out there, I really dont find it too bad an issue asking for references?

PrideBucks is a solid company, and maybe this is just one reason why?

LeRoy · 2009-08-25, 01:08 PM

Yah I got the same thing when I signed up at Pride Bucks. It was the first time I had to drop a name. He approved me so it's all good

Evil Chris · 2009-08-25, 01:33 PM

maybe give it another go then...

PB joe · 2009-08-25, 01:49 PM

Hi Wazza,

Thanks for your interest in PrideBucks. It appears there was one thing on your details that triggered one of our 'red flags'. For clarification, it was not your country.

Whenever this happens we request additional information / references that scammers/fraudsters would not provide. As you can imagine, we can not disclose publicly what triggers we look at as red flags. You may write to me at joe at pridebucks.com if you would like an explanation what it was in your situation.

Nonetheless, it sounds like you are recognized in the industry, So I have enabled your PrideBucks account.

On the other topic, i'll look into the spam issue. Though as you can imagine if you get 2500 spams, we get a lot more. So occassionally, a valid email may get tossed out. Bottom line whether its fraud or spam..its all a numbers game.

Wazza · 2009-08-25, 09:13 PM

Thanks Joe

It would be worthwhile having your reps add Pride Bucks to their email name - it really was dumb luck that I spotted the email... and I'd have been devastated if the 7 clicks a year I'll be sending had been going into a black hole

I'll email you now (subject Wazza The Evil Aussie) - I've got a rough idea what it was that got me rainbow flagged but it would be nice to know

Cheers

2009-08-24, 10:35 PM	#1
Wazza I'm a jaded evil bastard, I wouldn't piss on myself if I was on fire... Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 808	Pride Bucks I signed up with these guys over the weekend... today I get an email from them... ================= Webmaster, I'm Steven Sheaffer, Affiliate Sales Manager from Pridebucks.com. We reviewed your affiliate account and have disabled it until we are able to verify you with other sponsors. Please provide us with a references to contact so that we can verify your good standing. Thank you. Sincerely, Steven Sheaffer ================= My Reply... I've been at this since 2001 and have never had any issue with any sponsor How do you expect me to find "Steven Sheaffer" among the 2500 spams I get a day... pure luck I found the email... change it to Pride Bucks Take care ================= Anyhoo... my email gets returned... ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- <steven@pridebucks.com> (reason: 554 Your email is considered spam (6.00 spam-hits)) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to mail.pridebucks.com.: >>> DATA <<< 554 Your email is considered spam (6.00 spam-hits) 554 5.0.0 Service unavailable ================= So, Steven... First of all, let me add a bit to this - "and have never had any issue with any sponsor" - apart from the ones who changed from CCbill to Epoch to Verotel to MPA to NATS and didn't bother telling me, apart from the ones who changed bank accounts and told me not to bank their cheques 2 days after I had already banked them and then refused to even entertain the idea of paying the bank fees I was charged as a result, apart from the sponsors who went belly up and took my money with them, apart from the sponsors who closed sites and redirected my traffic somewhere else, apart from the sponsors who sold their sites to another program and didn't tell me... I really could not be bothered bothering other sponsors to get you to believe that I'm not a crook... So, I'll find someone else to promote thanks Unless of course you can email me the contact details of other webmasters who can vouch for the fact you pay on time and that your cheques don't bounce __________________ I sale Internet My sites have no traffic and no PR - let's trade - PM me

2009-08-24, 10:45 PM	#2
Evil Chris My eyes are up here. Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Montreal Posts: 913	I wonder why your email was considered spam? You pasted only the text you sent, but what's your signature look like in your outgoing mail? I was having problems myself with my own ISP at one time because the emails being sent had too many URLs for my own ISP's liking. They weren't spam at all though. As for the account verification... seems a bit much. Australia isn't typically on any watch lists. __________________ ICQ 342827

2009-08-24, 10:55 PM	#3
Wazza I'm a jaded evil bastard, I wouldn't piss on myself if I was on fire... Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 808	No sig... I assume it's because I used the word SPAM in my email... maybe it was the 2 urls and 3 contact numbers in his sig that tripped it... that would be pretty funny I signed up for cheque not epassporte payments too... I may have been quiet for some time - but many of the old hands know me... __________________ I sale Internet My sites have no traffic and no PR - let's trade - PM me

2009-08-24, 11:42 PM	#4
nekrom Are you sure this is the Sci-Fi Convention? It's full of nerds! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 263	Gotta watch out for those Aussie webmasters, shifty the lot of em. -N __________________ The afp ownz all your base.

2009-08-25, 01:02 PM	#6
B O B Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 23	you know, with all the fraud out there, I really dont find it too bad an issue asking for references? PrideBucks is a solid company, and maybe this is just one reason why? __________________ Bob@soloconverts.com ICQ: 184807 Skype: bobbyrica

2009-08-25, 12:39 AM	#5
Jel I'm the only guy in the world who has to wake up to have a nightmare Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: London, United Kingdom Posts: 1,895	That sucks mate, but a funny post

2009-08-25, 01:08 PM	#7
LeRoy "Young dumb and full of cum" Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Porn Valley Posts: 2,370	Yah I got the same thing when I signed up at Pride Bucks. It was the first time I had to drop a name. He approved me so it's all good __________________ JAPANESE ADULT AFFILIATE PROGRAM

2009-08-25, 01:33 PM	#8
Evil Chris My eyes are up here. Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Montreal Posts: 913	maybe give it another go then... __________________ ICQ 342827

2009-08-25, 01:49 PM	#9
PB joe Internet! Is that thing still around? Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1	Hi Wazza, Thanks for your interest in PrideBucks. It appears there was one thing on your details that triggered one of our 'red flags'. For clarification, it was not your country. Whenever this happens we request additional information / references that scammers/fraudsters would not provide. As you can imagine, we can not disclose publicly what triggers we look at as red flags. You may write to me at joe at pridebucks.com if you would like an explanation what it was in your situation. Nonetheless, it sounds like you are recognized in the industry, So I have enabled your PrideBucks account. On the other topic, i'll look into the spam issue. Though as you can imagine if you get 2500 spams, we get a lot more. So occassionally, a valid email may get tossed out. Bottom line whether its fraud or spam..its all a numbers game.

2009-08-25, 09:13 PM	#10
Wazza I'm a jaded evil bastard, I wouldn't piss on myself if I was on fire... Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 808	Thanks Joe It would be worthwhile having your reps add Pride Bucks to their email name - it really was dumb luck that I spotted the email... and I'd have been devastated if the 7 clicks a year I'll be sending had been going into a black hole I'll email you now (subject Wazza The Evil Aussie) - I've got a rough idea what it was that got me rainbow flagged but it would be nice to know Cheers __________________ I sale Internet My sites have no traffic and no PR - let's trade - PM me Last edited by Wazza; 2009-08-25 at 09:16 PM..