Found domain name in blacklist :(

[Yahook]

It depends what you mean under "cheaters". If this is linklist cheaters - they can come to your host too. You will ban your own host?

[Yahook]

If you mean something illegal like "undarage girls" on the hosting - in this case the hosting company must delete this user. But you didn't give me the examples.

So you just decided to add some hosting company to your blacklist because you don't use it and some linklist cheaters use it? What will you do when they come to your hosting - ban it too?

[Yahook]

I don't want any war with other linklist owners ofcource, but I just want to say that this is incorrect to ban all hosting because of one cheater... There are lots of good guys that can use this hosting.

And if you ban some hosting why not to give full list of banned hosting for webmasters? Or it's better to hide it and get more free recip links?

[Scooter]

Originally Posted by Surfn

I don't think it's too clever to be sharing hosts with cheaters

I'm using colocantion server at 3fn company i'm ceater too? i'm really surprised when i saw this topick because of i'm making really good sites and now i know that i'm a cheater because of i'm using 3fn Good deal guys

[MrMaryLou]

If you knew what kind of crap your hosted with you wouldnt be hosted there thats why those server companies are Black listed

[Surfn]

Originally Posted by Yahook

Or it's better to hide it and get more free recip links?

Um if they are banned and not listed there are NO links. If they were listed the traffic from recips is very minimal. Only a noob would think there was something of great value in recips.

[Surfn]

Originally Posted by Scooter

I'm using colocantion server at 3fn company i'm ceater too? i'm really surprised when i saw this topick because of i'm making really good sites and now i know that i'm a cheater because of i'm using 3fn Good deal guys

Yes that makes you a cheater too

[sundiver]

Originally Posted by Surfn

I don't think it's too clever to be sharing hosts with cheaters

let's try to think a little.
1) how can I know, that there are cheaters hosted on this host?
2) let's say that there are no cheaters on my host at the moment of my registration. but then they appear. how can I know that they appeared?
3) the most interesting question for me. if I'm a honest webmaster, and I do not cheat, do not break rules, etc... why not to email me saying: hey, dude, you're hosted with a bad host, change it, otherwise we'll ban you? oh, yes, it's much easier to put domain in a blacklist without any notice and to vanish all the time and money webmaster invested in this domain.
you do not understand one easy thing: the only person who cares about your ban is the honest poster. neither hosting provider, nor those cheaters do not care about all your bans.
you overstate your significance for any person not related to you directly.

[MrMaryLou]

Hey lets chat some about this come on over to On The Bench http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...ad.php?t=25741

[Surfn]

Originally Posted by sundiver

let's try to think a little.

That's the problem you should think a lot about where you are hosted first find out what which are good and bad hosts.

[Yahook]

Um if they are banned and not listed there are NO links. If they were listed the traffic from recips is very minimal. Only a noob would think there was something of great value in recips.

I'm not newb And I know the real situation - recip links are usefull. If not - why linklist owners ask to put them? And in this situation you get the links for free because some linklist posters don't know they are banned. They wait untill you list them but you don't because you decided to ban their hosting.

[sundiver]

Originally Posted by Surfn

Um if they are banned and not listed there are NO links. If they were listed the traffic from recips is very minimal. Only a noob would think there was something of great value in recips.

have ever heard about so called "search engines"? or maybe something about backlinks, link popularity, SE spiders, etc.? just curious.
NO links.

[Surfn]

Originally Posted by Yahook

I'm not newb And I know the real situation - recip links are usefull. If not - why linklist owners ask to put them? And in this situation you get the links for free because some linklist posters don't know they are banned. They wait untill you list them but you don't because you decided to ban their hosting.

That doesn't sound like an experienced webmasters response to me...

[Surfn]

Originally Posted by sundiver

have ever heard about so called "search engines"? or maybe something about backlinks, link popularity, SE spiders, etc.? just curious.
NO links.

Just how much do you think you know? Explain it for all the readers of this thread.

[Scooter]

Originally Posted by Surfn

Yes that makes you a cheater too

Stupid situation don't you think so? for example Penis Bot will make such politics: I don't like USA cheaters i'll better ban all there hosts what should you do in this situation? om... lemme gess... you'll can't do anythin because of all your hosting companys will host "virtual cheaters" lol. guys you better should think how to make your SE traffic growing neither ban hosting companies LOL

[Yahook]

Hey lets chat some about this come on over to On The Bench http://www.greenguysboard.com/board...ead.php?t=25741

Thanks for your offer

[Halfdeck]

Originally Posted by MrMaryLou

Hey lets chat some about this come on over to On The Bench http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...ad.php?t=25741

I'm there.

[Scooter]

Originally Posted by Surfn

That doesn't sound like an experienced webmasters response to me...

Hahaha... guy take a look here: http://www.google.com/search?num=100...ks&btnG=Search and try to search Hqpornlinks there... done? so how do you think who have more expirience here between you and Yahook? again LOL funny topick.

[Surfn]

Here's a reality check folks, if you want link list traffic you have to follow their rules. Simple not complicated..not rocket science. If you want to build for other things then don't submit.

[Yahook]

Surfn, I don't post free sites, but this situation is not profitable for me too. That's why I want to change this situation.

I understand that it's up your choice to make the rules. Well, if there are some linklists who use this ban rule:
1) Let's collect the full list of this linklists in this thread
2) Please give me the url where I can find the full list of banned hosting companies.

[sundiver]

Originally Posted by Surfn

Just how much do you think you know?

depending on what you mean. know about what?
talking about SE, I thought backlinks make you PR, higher rankings, etc. I do not overestimate significance of link from my pr2 or pr4 freesite, but 100 links from pr2 pages mean something for Google. if you have some other information about ranking mechanism please share this information with us.

and Yahook is not noob I believe. if you don't know him, or his english is worse than yours it doesn't automatically mean he's a noob.

[Yahook]

I just want the linklist business to be honest for all...

[Yahook]

If you give me the list of linklists than use this rule and the full list of hostings that are banned I will write php script that will check all your backward links and send a email about it to owner of the domain - that will be honest.

[Yahook]

But I'm afraid you will not give me this list - because these links are important for you.

[sundiver]

Originally Posted by Surfn

Here's a reality check folks, if you want link list traffic you have to follow their rules. Simple not complicated..not rocket science. If you want to build for other things then don't submit.

if there was rule "do not post from 3fn.net host" there wouldn't be any questions I guess.