How many LLs do you submit to?

Mr Spock · 2007-04-20, 02:03 AM

I would like to know how many LL other WM are submitting to? I submit up to 82 LL - I am looking to expand it further.

What is the optimum number of LL- Their must surely be a point whereby the marginal effort exceeds the marginal benefit.

Surfn · 2007-04-20, 02:18 AM

I submitted to 10-12 LL's regularly over the years and about the same number of TGP's. I wan never one to try to spend 10 hours a day submitting to a ton of sites. But then I never liked those submit scripts either.

I'm a firm believer in hand submitting everything.

oldbrad · 2007-04-20, 02:19 AM

right now i'm doin an even 20. I could go with 40 or so, but the results vs the chance of not being listed by others for doorway pages just isn't worth it. I'm doing story sites currently so i'm an exception.

Surfn · 2007-04-20, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by oldbrad

right now i'm doin an even 20. I could go with 40 or so, but the results vs the chance of not being listed by others for doorway pages just isn't worth it. I'm doing story sites currently so i'm an exception.

Did you drop me? I haven't seen a submit from you this week.

oldbrad · 2007-04-20, 02:35 AM

I think i submitted my last site to you. I have only made 9 in the past 4 months lol. I am going to start doing galleries and try picture sites again and i'll keep a spot for you.

I usually only make 1 every week or two while i am doing my big story site.

Surfn · 2007-04-20, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by oldbrad

I think i submitted my last site to you. I have only made 9 in the past 4 months lol. I am going to start doing galleries and try picture sites again and i'll keep a spot for you.

I usually only make 1 every week or two while i am doing my big story site.

SaucyPanties · 2007-04-20, 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Spock

I would like to know how many LL other WM are submitting to? I submit up to 82 LL - I am looking to expand it further.

What is the optimum number of LL- Their must surely be a point whereby the marginal effort exceeds the marginal benefit.

Obviously you must or why bother but 82? I am surprised you get traffic from numbers 40 down to 82 assuming biggest traffic senders are 1 to 39. I submit to just 24 or will be once I get going again next week, I only hand submit and for me making the extra pages for another 50+ submits would be better used making another free site and sending it to the bigger link lists...

stfuvt · 2007-04-20, 04:20 AM

I submit to 80 link lists, I`ve just expanded my link list`s to 112 for two weeks to look for new link lists, which send nice traffic.Most of them don`t send a lot of traffic, but its still fine.If you`ve just build a free site it won`t take you that long to duplicate it.But anyway I agree the biggest traffic senders are 1 to 39.

alvarez · 2007-04-20, 04:50 AM

I have over 200 LL

virgohippy · 2007-04-20, 04:54 AM

I just trimmed my old list collection to 48 from 90+, though I might raise it up to 60 shortly.

Mr Spock · 2007-04-20, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by SaucyPanties

Obviously you must or why bother but 82? I am surprised you get traffic from numbers 40 down to 82 assuming biggest traffic senders are 1 to 39. I submit to just 24 or will be once I get going again next week, I only hand submit and for me making the extra pages for another 50+ submits would be better used making another free site and sending it to the bigger link lists...

I agree with you, I think that one can think of it in terms of the 80/20 principle - If I look at my stats you can see that the top 20 bring in the bullk of the traffic. However If 40 -80 only send for example 2 visitors a day you are still getting 80 visitors/day.

I also hand submit, but it goes quickly once you get the hang of it, I just wonder if increasing my submit list from 80 to 120 will result in an 50% increase in traffic - I think even an increase of 10% will be worth the effort.

bluemoney · 2007-04-20, 08:46 AM

I do 45 at the moment.
As I too have become faster in the process I may increse that amount.

SheepGuy · 2007-04-20, 04:07 PM

I usually do 16 for AVS sites and 16-32 for free sites. I might boost my AVS to 32.

Aquarius · 2007-04-20, 04:14 PM

Around 100, every single hit is a potential buyer.

Allfetish · 2007-04-20, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquarius

Around 100, every single hit is a potential buyer.

True. The damnest thing is that sometimes the few hits you get from a smaller link list end up being signups more than you'd think. Why? Good question. Might be that there is more targeted SE traffic coming from there (instead of lessor traffic quality) or it could have to do with there not being 50,000 other sites that the surfer can get for free on the list. Yours might be the only one catering to his or her particular fetish -- and that's instant gold. Its *never* a waste of time, provided they will actually list you.

If I ever start up submitting to free sites again, I'll probably do as many as I reasonably can. Anywhere from 20 - 300. We'll see.

ladydesigner · 2007-04-20, 06:07 PM

I'm currently submitting free sites (by hand) to about 120 LL's. In the past I've submitted a single site to just the top 20 LL's but thought I'd expand on it some. To early to see if more is better.

fresh · 2007-04-20, 06:56 PM

i submit to 21 LL. Its hard to find more of them. 1-2 of those 21 stopped listing me and im having hard times to find a replacement

streetux · 2007-04-20, 07:02 PM

i`m submitting to 84 LLs by hand. Time ago i was submitting to 240 sites. Removed bad ones, who even after 6 month didnt accepted my site, or sites who send 1 click per month. The ones who send me 2-3 clicks daily i added to my submit site list.

DangerDave · 2007-04-20, 07:09 PM

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Licker4U · 2007-04-20, 07:28 PM

I build a site and nine mirrors each with nine recips for a total of 90. It takes about six hours to make the site and it's mirrors and submit manually to all link lists. (The submitting takes a little over an hour) I spend the rest of the day looking over content and selecting what to use for the next day's site and get a start on the next site. I thought about submitting to the top 27 traffic sending sites which would only be three sites but you never know where a sign-up will come from and I would wind up with too much time on my hands (can only submit one site/day anyway)

JackDaniel's · 2007-04-21, 03:37 AM

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Now you can add one more in the future when it's asked again

PinkFloyd · 2007-04-21, 04:31 AM

And how about SEO,

What is better?

To have links from 30 sites with average PR 4 or from 100+ with average PR 2?

virgohippy · 2007-04-21, 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by PinkFloyd

And how about SEO,

What is better?

To have links from 30 sites with average PR 4 or from 100+ with average PR 2?

Both?

papagmp · 2007-04-21, 05:32 PM

I'm recovering from a pretty bad neck injury so my ability to sit at the PC and create free sites has been limited the past 7-8 weeks.

I typically submit to 24 to 64 LL’s depending on the site I’m submitting.

I do all my submits by hand so I think I’ll stick to the sites that give me the best traffic and or are easiest to work with – a site that only send minimal traffic and takes 6-months to list me, during which period I’m sending them traffic, is dropped from my submission list.

BigRoB · 2007-04-21, 06:56 PM

@a question on the hand submitter's

how long you need for a hand submission session for 80-100 LL's ?

2007-04-20, 02:03 AM	#1
Mr Spock You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Vulcan Posts: 695	How many LLs do you submit to? I would like to know how many LL other WM are submitting to? I submit up to 82 LL - I am looking to expand it further. What is the optimum number of LL- Their must surely be a point whereby the marginal effort exceeds the marginal benefit.

2007-04-20, 02:18 AM	#2
Surfn If you don’t take a chance the Angels won’t dance Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Earth on occasion Posts: 8,812	I submitted to 10-12 LL's regularly over the years and about the same number of TGP's. I wan never one to try to spend 10 hours a day submitting to a ton of sites. But then I never liked those submit scripts either. I'm a firm believer in hand submitting everything. __________________ Surfn's Links Are you a partner?

2007-04-20, 02:19 AM	#3
oldbrad It is better to watch things then to do them Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: oregon Posts: 485	right now i'm doin an even 20. I could go with 40 or so, but the results vs the chance of not being listed by others for doorway pages just isn't worth it. I'm doing story sites currently so i'm an exception. __________________ Help MrMaryLou Link to his Chubby TGP & Chubby Links on your sites and blogs.

2007-04-20, 02:35 AM	#5
oldbrad It is better to watch things then to do them Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: oregon Posts: 485	I think i submitted my last site to you. I have only made 9 in the past 4 months lol. I am going to start doing galleries and try picture sites again and i'll keep a spot for you. I usually only make 1 every week or two while i am doing my big story site. __________________ Help MrMaryLou Link to his Chubby TGP & Chubby Links on your sites and blogs.

2007-04-20, 04:20 AM	#8
stfuvt My wife is not a doobie to be passed around! On our wedding day I promised to bogart her for life! Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 278	I submit to 80 link lists, I`ve just expanded my link list`s to 112 for two weeks to look for new link lists, which send nice traffic.Most of them don`t send a lot of traffic, but its still fine.If you`ve just build a free site it won`t take you that long to duplicate it.But anyway I agree the biggest traffic senders are 1 to 39. __________________ Jakes Links - Submit Your Free Sites Here I am selling pornblog.ca

2007-04-20, 04:50 AM	#9
alvarez The only guys who wear Hawaiian shirts are gay guys and big fat party animals Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 171	I have over 200 LL __________________ google is bitch

2007-04-20, 04:54 AM	#10
virgohippy Madness is like gravity. All it takes is a little... push. Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: California Posts: 1,679	I just trimmed my old list collection to 48 from 90+, though I might raise it up to 60 shortly. __________________ ~Warm and Fuzzy.

2007-04-20, 08:46 AM	#12
bluemoney Shimmering Silver Head Of Wisdom Looking At Me! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Chronic Town Posts: 2,024	I do 45 at the moment. As I too have become faster in the process I may increse that amount. __________________ Milf Porn For The Masses

2007-04-20, 04:07 PM	#13
SheepGuy It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 2,527	I usually do 16 for AVS sites and 16-32 for free sites. I might boost my AVS to 32. __________________ If the Environment was a bank, they would have saved it by now.

2007-04-20, 04:14 PM	#14
Aquarius Hey, can you take the wheel for a second, I have to scratch my self in two places at once Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 182	Around 100, every single hit is a potential buyer. __________________ ICQ: 110-990-327

2007-04-20, 06:07 PM	#16
ladydesigner ~Serving Up Sinful Sex ~ Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Missouri City, Texas Posts: 1,928	I'm currently submitting free sites (by hand) to about 120 LL's. In the past I've submitted a single site to just the top 20 LL's but thought I'd expand on it some. To early to see if more is better. __________________ Porn Pixie XxX ~ Looking for Link Trades

2007-04-20, 06:56 PM	#17
fresh Kids are great, Appu. You can teach them to hate the things you hate and they practically raise themselves now-a-days, you know, with the internet and all Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 199	i submit to 21 LL. Its hard to find more of them. 1-2 of those 21 stopped listing me and im having hard times to find a replacement __________________ MY FAVORITE HOSTING: Unlimited sites for 4.95$+, 99.9% uptime, 24/7 live support

2007-04-20, 07:02 PM	#18
streetux If something goes wrong at the plant, blame the guy who can't speak English Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 31	i`m submitting to 84 LLs by hand. Time ago i was submitting to 240 sites. Removed bad ones, who even after 6 month didnt accepted my site, or sites who send 1 click per month. The ones who send me 2-3 clicks daily i added to my submit site list.

2007-04-20, 07:09 PM	#19
DangerDave Bonged Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: BrisVegas, AUSTRALIA Posts: 4,882	http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...ists+submit+to http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...ists+submit+to http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...ists+submit+to

2007-04-20, 07:28 PM	#20
Licker4U Mean people suck, nice people swallow, are you mean or nice? Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Lower Alabama-The Redneck Riviera Posts: 2,376	I build a site and nine mirrors each with nine recips for a total of 90. It takes about six hours to make the site and it's mirrors and submit manually to all link lists. (The submitting takes a little over an hour) I spend the rest of the day looking over content and selecting what to use for the next day's site and get a start on the next site. I thought about submitting to the top 27 traffic sending sites which would only be three sites but you never know where a sign-up will come from and I would wind up with too much time on my hands (can only submit one site/day anyway)

2007-04-21, 04:31 AM	#22
PinkFloyd Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Gl, Sl, PL Posts: 24	And how about SEO, What is better? To have links from 30 sites with average PR 4 or from 100+ with average PR 2? __________________ Buy Traffic High quality clicked traffic! Sell Traffic Earn $3.20 - $4.20/k!

2007-04-21, 05:32 PM	#24
papagmp That'll teach you to leave your sister unattended..... Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 1,803	I'm recovering from a pretty bad neck injury so my ability to sit at the PC and create free sites has been limited the past 7-8 weeks. I typically submit to 24 to 64 LL’s depending on the site I’m submitting. I do all my submits by hand so I think I’ll stick to the sites that give me the best traffic and or are easiest to work with – a site that only send minimal traffic and takes 6-months to list me, during which period I’m sending them traffic, is dropped from my submission list. __________________ Submit: OutlawFreePorn

2007-04-21, 06:56 PM	#25
BigRoB Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 24	@a question on the hand submitter's how long you need for a hand submission session for 80-100 LL's ?