Blacklisting - Page 2

RawAlex · 2006-05-09, 08:08 PM

I think though if I understand he is building sites for a micro niche (CFNM) and there are only a very few real on point traffic sources, and he is "blacklisted" from them.

I will admit that I don't entirely follow the thread because there seems to be just way too much to this... if your server gets hacked, you fix the trouble, apologize profusely to whoever might have put you on thier shitlist, and hope to get back into their good graces. If that doesn't happen, move on to other link sites / TGPs and/or change the focus of your site niche, whatever is required.

Beyond that the rest is all bullshit that keeps you from making money.

Alex

Jel · 2006-05-10, 12:52 AM

Only because I know the guy will I say this:

He owns the paysite cfnmzone.com and is not primarily a freesite/gallery builder. He has (from what I can see) hired a guy to make/submit galleries for him, and found out cfnmzone.com is BL'd from the hun, for reasons unknown. Obviously only the hun can answer that one, so windcruzer you need to check out his board - although I'd definitely be less confrontational if you want to get that resolved.

As far as I can guess, the BL'ing at hoes is probably for submitting galleries and not freesites there, in which case you need to take a look at what a freesite is.

As for the other stuff - hacking and so forth, that's an entirely different issue, nothing to do with blacklists, and you need to keep that out of any discussion about blacklisting, or you will do what you have done here - confuse people.

windcruzer · 2006-05-10, 12:52 AM

Thanks everyone it's nice to see all this great info. RawAlex seems to have a grip on what's happening to my site.
I understand buying another domain now and want to thank everyone here for suggesting it.
Jel everybody says raise the rate but I would hate to loose all my regulars because I do have a good rebill rate. Without being properly promoted it's those rebills they make me the most money each month.

Jel · 2006-05-10, 01:00 AM

windcruzer - you only need buy another domain to make the freesites/galleries on, although if you are blacklisted for subbing galleries to a freesite LL, or not following any other rules you'll probably find that your email address will appear on the blacklist too.

You need to find out for sure where you are blacklisted and why, and be sure to make the changes required to get you off them. A lot of people will give a second chance for genuine mistakes, hell we all made them when we first started out, I know I did, but make an effort to keep to the specific rules for the specific traffic sources you are targetting. Sounds as if you are in the right direction with the guy you have hired.

frankthetank · 2006-05-10, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by windcruzer

Thanks everyone it's nice to see all this great info. RawAlex seems to have a grip on what's happening to my site.
I understand buying another domain now and want to thank everyone here for suggesting it.
Jel everybody says raise the rate but I would hate to loose all my regulars because I do have a good rebill rate. Without being properly promoted it's those rebills they make me the most money each month.

Just a comment on your site, if you don´t mind me bringing it up here. I´m on 1024x768 and have to scroll the site. Maybe it´s a good idea to change that.

Greenguy · 2006-05-10, 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jel

...As far as I can guess, the BL'ing at hoes is probably for submitting galleries and not freesites there, in which case you need to take a look at what a freesite is...

Are we 100% sure that he's blacklisted at hoes? It could be that he's just not getting listed because he's submitting galleries (I know I don't always blacklist because someone submits a gallery - sometimes I just delete the submit & move on)

Jel · 2006-05-10, 09:17 AM

Very true GG, I shoulda really said 'if you are BL'd at hoes it's probably because....' either way, I hate to guess/speak for others so in all fairness to windcruzer I suppose the best I can say is: Wait until someone from Hoes sees your post(s) - it can be a few days between the guys from there popping in - and see what they say

windcruzer · 2006-05-11, 04:34 PM

It's a shame TGP/LL site owners don't realize how popular my site is with the buying public.

http://www.videos4sale.com/do/list

Take a look at the top selling stores on the left.

KCat · 2006-05-11, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frankthetank

Just a comment on your site, if you don´t mind me bringing it up here. I´m on 1024x768 and have to scroll the site. Maybe it´s a good idea to change that.

Me too.

Site design aside, it looks like you've got some great content. You might want to check with Paycom about how raising the rate works (if you do want to go that route). With CCBill, I can raise the price of new memberships, but any of my current members are locked in at the rate they originally agreed to. That doesn't change & could theoretically help retention if your members know that if they cancel now, they'll have to sign up at a higher rate later on.

Toby · 2006-05-11, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by windcruzer

It's a shame TGP/LL site owners don't realize how popular my site is with the buying public.

http://www.videos4sale.com/do/list

Take a look at the top selling stores on the left.

Unless you have recip links to the TGP/LL on your main site, it's popularity has virtually no relevance to any galleries or free sites you submit.

windcruzer · 2006-05-11, 07:57 PM

I always put the recep link to any site on the Home Page when I submit but take it off when I don't get listed.
Thanks for the info about contacting Paycom I will do that tomorrow. I'm thinking of adding CCbill as a 2nd billing company. Anybody have thoughts on having both Paycom and CCbill?
Lucky me, I had Ibill and Paycom didn't want the $750 for Visa again.

windcruzer · 2006-05-15, 01:28 PM

TGP/LL owners who can see the value of my CFNM content and can appreicate listing a site that has the best rebill rate in the CFNM genre please send an email to:
webmaster@cfnmzone.com

http://www.sensations4women.com/vsBo...?board=stories
CFNMZONE DVD's at bottom of page. These forum came up with the term CFNM.

If the same person blacklisting me is the same one hacking my site then these two ideas do tie together I'm sad to say. Why this person just doesn't improve their own CFNM site blows my mind?

Thanks,
windcruzer

Tommy · 2006-05-15, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCat

theoretically help retention if your members know that if they cancel now, they'll have to sign up at a higher rate later on.

Hmmm that could be good to premote that angle in the paysite

telling the surfers how lucky they are

DJilla · 2006-05-16, 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by windcruzer

If the same person blacklisting me is the same one hacking my site then these two ideas do tie together I'm sad to say. Why this person just doesn't improve their own CFNM site blows my mind?

I can really feel your frustration. Unfortunately, jealousy and hacking slash business interference can sometimes go hand in hand. I can see by your resolve that you are taking it as a challange and will be stronger for it. I'd list your stuff anytime.

Good luck!

windcruzer · 2006-05-18, 01:14 PM

Boy was I naive when I decided to start an adult site but then you won't meet to many people more stuboorn than me either. I was a photographer who was into CFNM and thought he could do it better.
I did finally get listed on cfnmlist but they won't take my galleries just my site name but that's better than nothing.
Thanks to DJilla and everybody else who decided to list content. The new web guy just finished a 4 page movie page.

2006-05-11, 04:34 PM	#33
windcruzer If something goes wrong at the plant, blame the guy who can't speak English Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 32	dvd sales It's a shame TGP/LL site owners don't realize how popular my site is with the buying public. http://www.videos4sale.com/do/list Take a look at the top selling stores on the left. Last edited by windcruzer; 2006-05-11 at 04:38 PM..

2006-05-11, 07:57 PM	#36
windcruzer If something goes wrong at the plant, blame the guy who can't speak English Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 32	Recip link I always put the recep link to any site on the Home Page when I submit but take it off when I don't get listed. Thanks for the info about contacting Paycom I will do that tomorrow. I'm thinking of adding CCbill as a 2nd billing company. Anybody have thoughts on having both Paycom and CCbill? Lucky me, I had Ibill and Paycom didn't want the $750 for Visa again.

2006-05-15, 01:28 PM	#37
windcruzer If something goes wrong at the plant, blame the guy who can't speak English Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 32	A new tack TGP/LL owners who can see the value of my CFNM content and can appreicate listing a site that has the best rebill rate in the CFNM genre please send an email to: webmaster@cfnmzone.com http://www.sensations4women.com/vsBo...?board=stories CFNMZONE DVD's at bottom of page. These forum came up with the term CFNM. If the same person blacklisting me is the same one hacking my site then these two ideas do tie together I'm sad to say. Why this person just doesn't improve their own CFNM site blows my mind? Thanks, windcruzer Last edited by windcruzer; 2006-05-15 at 02:22 PM..

2006-05-18, 01:14 PM	#40
windcruzer If something goes wrong at the plant, blame the guy who can't speak English Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 32	Yep Boy was I naive when I decided to start an adult site but then you won't meet to many people more stuboorn than me either. I was a photographer who was into CFNM and thought he could do it better. I did finally get listed on cfnmlist but they won't take my galleries just my site name but that's better than nothing. Thanks to DJilla and everybody else who decided to list content. The new web guy just finished a 4 page movie page. Last edited by windcruzer; 2006-05-18 at 01:18 PM..

2006-05-09, 08:08 PM	#26
RawAlex Took the hint. Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,597	I think though if I understand he is building sites for a micro niche (CFNM) and there are only a very few real on point traffic sources, and he is "blacklisted" from them. I will admit that I don't entirely follow the thread because there seems to be just way too much to this... if your server gets hacked, you fix the trouble, apologize profusely to whoever might have put you on thier shitlist, and hope to get back into their good graces. If that doesn't happen, move on to other link sites / TGPs and/or change the focus of your site niche, whatever is required. Beyond that the rest is all bullshit that keeps you from making money. Alex

2006-05-10, 12:52 AM	#27
Jel I'm the only guy in the world who has to wake up to have a nightmare Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: London, United Kingdom Posts: 1,895	Only because I know the guy will I say this: He owns the paysite cfnmzone.com and is not primarily a freesite/gallery builder. He has (from what I can see) hired a guy to make/submit galleries for him, and found out cfnmzone.com is BL'd from the hun, for reasons unknown. Obviously only the hun can answer that one, so windcruzer you need to check out his board - although I'd definitely be less confrontational if you want to get that resolved. As far as I can guess, the BL'ing at hoes is probably for submitting galleries and not freesites there, in which case you need to take a look at what a freesite is. As for the other stuff - hacking and so forth, that's an entirely different issue, nothing to do with blacklists, and you need to keep that out of any discussion about blacklisting, or you will do what you have done here - confuse people.

2006-05-10, 01:00 AM	#29
Jel I'm the only guy in the world who has to wake up to have a nightmare Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: London, United Kingdom Posts: 1,895	windcruzer - you only need buy another domain to make the freesites/galleries on, although if you are blacklisted for subbing galleries to a freesite LL, or not following any other rules you'll probably find that your email address will appear on the blacklist too. You need to find out for sure where you are blacklisted and why, and be sure to make the changes required to get you off them. A lot of people will give a second chance for genuine mistakes, hell we all made them when we first started out, I know I did, but make an effort to keep to the specific rules for the specific traffic sources you are targetting. Sounds as if you are in the right direction with the guy you have hired.

2006-05-10, 09:17 AM	#32
Jel I'm the only guy in the world who has to wake up to have a nightmare Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: London, United Kingdom Posts: 1,895	Very true GG, I shoulda really said 'if you are BL'd at hoes it's probably because....' either way, I hate to guess/speak for others so in all fairness to windcruzer I suppose the best I can say is: Wait until someone from Hoes sees your post(s) - it can be a few days between the guys from there popping in - and see what they say