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Account Deactivated for Sending a Hacker
GG & Jim, I apologize in advance for ranting about a sponsor; I have talked to the folks at Moonangel privately via email and things are at a standstill. I'm about to drop these guys and move on, and I also realize a sponsor has the right to drop an affiliate for any reason -- call me a noob, but this is a weird situation I've never encountered before.
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Another Australian IP 202.67.83.62 also came in from Yahoo with a similar keyword around Jan 20. Last IP 203.88.225.47 that hit my site mid February had no referrer info so I'm guessing he bookmarked a ref url previously and revisted the paysite with a different IP. Anyway, I told these guys I'll keep my links up even if I get no credit for any sales, and won't beg them to reactivate my account. Still, I can't make heads or tails out of their decision to deactivate my account. I mean...I'm sending them decent SE traffic. I'm sorry the sob tried to hack their paysite, but how the hell am I supposed to screen Yahoo traffic for hackers?
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2006-02-26, 10:38 AM | #2 |
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dont waste your time and energy just replace your links and move on do the smart thing to many good sponsors to waste your time and traffic on one that doesnt want you
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2006-02-26, 10:44 AM | #3 |
Jim? I heard he's a dirty pornographer.
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You made a post about 1 sale/refund? Tommy is right. Move on. You've already wasted more time then they're worth.
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2006-02-26, 10:51 AM | #4 |
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Sponsors do seem to be making some odd decisions.
I signed up for a CCBill program back in December, single girl site, and due to a number of reasons hadn't gotten around to promoting it yet. I get an email from her via the CCBill admin yesterday, cancelling my account due to "click inactivity". Why cancel inactive accounts? It costs nothing to leave them alone, and the next affiliate "newsletter" may jog me and many others into getting around to promoting the program. |
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2006-02-26, 11:20 AM | #6 |
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I agree with Tommy as well, but I would have psoted this info if it happened to me - that's fucked up & I really like how they only told you that your account was deactivated after 2 emails from you asking about the negative balance.
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2006-02-26, 11:39 AM | #7 |
Arghhhh...submit yer sites ya ruddy swabs!
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Wow...that is some seriously fucked up stuff!
Agree with the others Halfdeck...dump their asses and move on. And thanks very much for the heads up...that's definitely a sponsor I'll be sure to never sign up with...they're obviously incredibly stupid...crazy...or BOTH |
2006-02-26, 12:02 PM | #8 |
...and since we know an end will come it makes our living so much fun
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Oh and read again.. it says Austrian and not Australian, big difference
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2006-02-26, 01:14 PM | #9 |
What can I do - I was born this way LOL
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yup move on and pull links, I have a well know rev-share sponsor that I had a 100.00 sale on(he must have clicked the wrong monthly option and later found out and charged back, so then a few weeks later I check my stats and see a return and minus 50.00 the 50% cut and they charged me 15.00 half of the charge back fee... some rev-share sponsors make you pay half the costs on charge backs.... But did they close my account - NO... And that was my only charge back in 3 years with them.....
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2006-02-26, 03:56 PM | #10 |
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Yep move on, but it was good that you posted...the sponsor is definitely one to avoid.
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2006-02-26, 04:08 PM | #11 | |
Whoo! 9/10 the way to buddy plays in "The Christ from Oz"!
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2006-02-26, 05:11 PM | #12 |
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Another one to put on the "Dont promote" List.
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EDIT: Hits came from: Singapore Saudi Arabia Malasia Atlanta, Georgia China Australia, sydney Thailand, Bangkok Mountain View, California Reston, Virginia Indonesia Vancouver, Canada West Bloomfield, Michigan Seol, Korea Calgary, Canada Anyway, time to move on
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2006-02-26, 10:45 PM | #14 |
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Moon Angel
This is Moon Angel. After reading all the "carnage" that occurred on this message board I decided to jump in and defend myself and explain exactly why I decided to deactivate Half Deck's affiliate account with us.
First of all, I told Half Deck it was an Austrian IP that hacked my site, using an account purchased via an Australian IP. I made a slight mistake, it wasn't an Austrian IP, it was actually a Czech IP. The user in question, "stevee" first logged on in 2-11-2006: February 11th 2006 05:32:02 AM|211.26.186.17|stevee|Login Successful Session=3XRryFgd9RwwlPzjMNSyygxGaVZWYl PK|| 211.26.186.17 is indeed an australian IP. However, a few days after his "purchase", this user decided to make hack attempts against my site as follows: February 13th 2006 03:46:08 AM|195.47.32.27|stevee|Illegal Characters in Request (/fruity/new3/ma/anya/../. ./../../../.htaccess)| moonauth.02-14-06:February 13th 2006 03:46:08 AM|195.47.32.27|stevee|Illegal Characters in Request (/fruity/new3/ma/anya/../. ./../../../.htaccess)| moonauth.02-14-06:February 13th 2006 03:46:08 AM|195.47.32.27|stevee|Illegal Characters in Request (/fruity/new3/ma/anya/../. ./../../../.htaccess)| I'm not sure about any of you guys, but I take it as a severe insult when someone is attempting to break into my site. Anyhow, I commonly group the Austrians and Czechs together in one subnet verification pool since they're so close in geographic proximity, my bad. I have been running Moon Angel for over 10 years now (go ahead and do a whois on moonangel.com for the Record creation date ) and my affiliate site for nearly a year now, and rarely in the history of my site have I seen a hack attempt of this magnitude against my members gallery scripting. Since it was the first order that came through with half deck, and very little traffic was exchanged, I decided it would be in our best interest to deactivate his affiliate account to avoid the introduction of any future "hacked" accounts. Anyhow, I think my last message to Half Deck pretty much sums it all up: We reserve the right to terminate partnership at anytime as our policy states. You have not made any money for us nor have we made any money for you, so I think its fair that you just move on to another affiliate. This was a worst-case scenario of an extremely malicious (and rare) hacker, and if your site is somehow attracting these types of individuals, i'd rather not be linked nor partner with your site. Sincerely, Moon Angel |
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2006-02-27, 12:15 AM | #16 |
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Guess we are all responsible for hackers now also? Thats BS.
Not only do we need to try and keep out minors, but screen for hackers. geezz... ronnie |
2006-02-27, 12:30 AM | #17 |
Arghhhh...submit yer sites ya ruddy swabs!
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Yea...the simplest solution is still to walk away...shaking your head and thinking "What the Fuck?"...but walk away nonetheless.
HOWEVER, this is way up there on the STUPID scale for a sponsor to term an affiliate on these grounds. There's no mention of having SEEN anything on his site(s) that would have 'attracted' the cockroach. Just that the roach came from there...some twisted fuckin logic there from someone who 'should' know something about the net' Said it before...will say it again...thanks for the heads up Halfdeck! That's a sponsor I wouldn't touch with the proverbial 10 foot pole...they're a bit tetched in the head |
2006-02-27, 12:34 AM | #18 | |
Jim? I heard he's a dirty pornographer.
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2006-02-27, 06:10 AM | #19 | |
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So, way off base cancelling his account and I don't know anyone in their right mind would touch the Moon Angel program after reading this thread. |
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2006-02-27, 06:15 AM | #20 |
Kids are great, Appu. You can teach them to hate the things you hate and they practically raise themselves now-a-days, you know, with the internet and all
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Sad but true. I hate when this happens. Luckly, it happened to me only twice in a decade. Yeah worth posting and also, don't waist time on this. Change your links
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2006-02-27, 06:29 AM | #21 |
You can't keep blaming yourself. Just blame yourself once, and move on
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Really gotta agree with everyone on this one. Total bullshit. Scrape 'em off and move on, Halfdeck!
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2006-02-27, 07:21 AM | #22 |
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moonangel, I will never register with your affiliate program.
I understand that you were pissed with that cracker attack, I would be also. On the other hand, after only one case you terminated Halfdeck account, becouse cracker came through his site. Don't you think it would be rather stupid of Halfdeck to use HIS affiliate code to signup and crack your site?! Thats like he robbed a bank and left his ID card to police... Come on. BTW, person that tried to crack your site is "cracker" not "hacker". "Hackers" are generally known as creative people while "crackers" are destructive. |
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2006-02-27, 09:42 AM | #24 |
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Moonangel,
First off, of course you've been in this biz 10 years everyone has now funny but 9 years ago at some of the first trade shows there were less than 300 people, this biz is like Woodstock 250k went and 25 million say they did. Secondly, It's not your affiliate's fault a user tried to hack your system why even try and pass the buck to them? |
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How can you blame an affiliate for a hacking attempt? If the sale came directly from Google, would you deny Google's traffic? I sense a grand future in republican politics for you, moonbeam.
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