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Old 2004-07-30, 04:43 AM   #1
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Anyone heard from Acacia?

Saw this on another board and wondered if anyone here had any contact form them.

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Has any one received any Certify e-mail lately?

It seems acacia is up to its old tricks of calling and now mailing webmasters Via certify mail in order to intimidate them to pay for something that is free. The Case is not even finish and they are starting to demand payment.

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Old 2004-07-30, 10:06 AM   #2
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I haven't received anything from them since they sent out that first mass mailing while back.

I assume the title of this thread is sarcasm.
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Old 2004-07-30, 10:25 AM   #3
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No it's not, as I said I saw this on another board and was wondering if anyone else had been approached.

I doubt if they will lie down and go away.
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Old 2004-07-30, 10:31 AM   #4
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My bad, I thought you asked if anyone ever heard 'of' Acacia. Hence the sarcasm comment.

But true, they are definately not going away quietly. I think their next patent will be on the use of oxygen during web surfing. When one claims very broad patents, a long battle is sure to ensue.
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Old 2004-07-30, 12:06 PM   #5
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Actually - this would be the next one they are going after:

"last week announced it had acquired a patent from its DMT technology licensee, LodgeNet, which covers technologies and methods for redirecting users to a login page when accessing the Net"

Acacia plans on launching a licensing and enforcement program for the patent during this third quarter, pursuing companies like coffee purveyors or hotels that sell WiFi Internet service direct to the consumer, as well as WiFi distribution firms
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Old 2004-07-30, 12:14 PM   #6
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Actually - this would be the next one they are going after:

"last week announced it had acquired a patent from its DMT technology licensee, LodgeNet, which covers technologies and methods for redirecting users to a login page when accessing the Net"

Acacia plans on launching a licensing and enforcement program for the patent during this third quarter, pursuing companies like coffee purveyors or hotels that sell WiFi Internet service direct to the consumer, as well as WiFi distribution firms
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Old 2004-07-30, 12:19 PM   #7
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Well, I saw that patent, and again, it is not clear that this one is not without "prior art" either. Redirection per se is a browser function that has existed since the start of time. Almost all wireless units have a "filter by MAC address" feature.

Also, most of the coffee places don't offer wireless by themselves, but rather as part of a network. They are only commissioned sales agents, not owners in fact. They are using software provided as part of the sales package. Acacia will have to go after the actual network owners, and companies like Linksys and Cisco that build this stuff right into the wireless units. I think this is a non-issue.

Again, they are attempting to take a VERY broad patent and apply it long after the fact. The courts will look dimly on the their continued attempts to stretch things (this will be their third, the Vchip one got shot down as well... )

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Old 2004-07-30, 12:36 PM   #8
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The main problem is that so many of the mainstream companies just fold immediately and submit to their licensing requests - hell - their income from license fees just last quarter or so went up by $600k from last year to this - so they're raking in money even before they the patent court issue is resolved.
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Old 2004-07-30, 01:35 PM   #9
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The only thing that's gonna make Acacia go away is when the Patent Office reforms take place. Hopefully.
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Old 2004-07-31, 03:35 AM   #10
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The only thing that's gonna make Acacia go away is when the Patent Office reforms take place. Hopefully.
Acacia and all the other firms that make a living this way. The US patent office is a shambles and claims it's due to under funding.

The simple solution would be for them to charge enough money to run the system properly, but that would mean less work for lawyers and that would never get through any goverment, look at the profession most of them are or were in for the answer why.
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