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Old 2005-02-08, 01:19 PM   #1
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well I guess that proves without a doubt that the Butcher is a con artist

Take a bow Jim ... You deserve it :-)
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Old 2005-02-08, 01:25 PM   #2
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LOL
I asked him on his board who were these members
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And I am banned and the thread is removed
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Old 2005-02-08, 01:28 PM   #3
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will he still show up tonight?

and I can't believe he knew my other username

324563245632wetrywetr

I always use that one
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Old 2005-02-08, 01:32 PM   #4
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You couldn't wait till tonight to spring that? I was looking forward to the show.

Now all that time I wasted on Saturday morning reading this thread and watching you hover around the bagles and colotchkies was for naught.

Do you have a fill in guest? I hope so, I don't think I can take one more show about ass-zits.
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Old 2005-02-08, 01:29 PM   #5
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Nope, he backed out before I asked about the members
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Old 2005-02-08, 01:30 PM   #6
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And Tommy...I can't take credit for the list. It was given to us by a friend
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Old 2005-02-08, 01:34 PM   #7
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Again, he backed out before I mentioned it
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Old 2005-02-08, 01:34 PM   #8
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Here
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Old 2005-02-08, 01:41 PM   #9
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everything that guy says is bullshit, why would the radio show promise be any different, I never beleived he was gonna be on that show
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Old 2005-02-08, 01:43 PM   #10
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We may have a special guest on though..
And who knows, maybe he will be on to get things straight
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Old 2005-02-08, 01:54 PM   #11
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Look at this...within 10 minutes of posting the member list containing over 4000 members, his member count drops
http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...tachmentid=363
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Old 2005-02-08, 02:07 PM   #12
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Some people may think that it's no big deal to inflate a membership count like that. But when you are selling advertising based upon those figures, then that's not being honest with your potential sponsors.

It's the same as selling magazine ad space and claiming that your circulation is 4 times larger than it actually is.

Some people would call it fraud.
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Old 2005-02-08, 02:05 PM   #13
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And I was planning on listening in just to hear what this guy had to say. Can you say FRAUD?
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Old 2005-02-08, 02:08 PM   #14
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Exactly urb...
The reason we have made it a personal challenge to bring him to the light of day.
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Old 2005-02-08, 02:30 PM   #15
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TheBithcher's Sponsor Chat logo and background image both clearly indicate that they are sponsored by Adult Lounge. Where is Raffi and what is his opinion on this? Why would anyone continue to sponsor this fool?

Just found this on Adult Lounge:
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AdultLounge is having a 15 Day Contest on SponsorChat.com (Contest Starts Feb.1 - Feb.15)

Qualify to play...
WTF?
To each their own, I guess.
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Old 2005-02-09, 09:49 PM   #16
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TheBithcher's Sponsor Chat logo and background image both clearly indicate that they are sponsored by Adult Lounge. Where is Raffi and what is his opinion on this? Why would anyone continue to sponsor this fool?

Just found this on Adult Lounge:

WTF?
To each their own, I guess.
Its just another board which we do marketing on....we are on many boards and happen to sponsor this one at this time.....
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Old 2005-02-10, 07:16 AM   #17
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Its just another board which we do marketing on....we are on many boards and happen to sponsor this one at this time.....
I guess I was a tad dissapointed to see what I thought was a high profile sponsor, sponsoring that board.

I actually signed up to the board... really wanted to defend Urb (one of the most genuine and honest people I have ever met in this business)

I had only made one post when I saw somones post had been deleted... a poster here... and certainly a person's opinion who shouldnt be deleted. when I questioned the deletion I was told it was either illegal or (hmmm cant think of the other thing) and I was advised if I wanted to hang at boards like "that" the moderator would send me a list.

Doesnt sound like a board that wants me and I have pretty much said nothing. But I am certainly not impressed by any sponsor that supports it... I am sure that no sponsor will hope to gain good business from that board.
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Old 2005-02-11, 01:37 AM   #18
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I guess I was a tad dissapointed to see what I thought was a high profile sponsor, sponsoring that board.

I actually signed up to the board... really wanted to defend Urb (one of the most genuine and honest people I have ever met in this business)

I had only made one post when I saw somones post had been deleted... a poster here... and certainly a person's opinion who shouldnt be deleted. when I questioned the deletion I was told it was either illegal or (hmmm cant think of the other thing) and I was advised if I wanted to hang at boards like "that" the moderator would send me a list.

Doesnt sound like a board that wants me and I have pretty much said nothing. But I am certainly not impressed by any sponsor that supports it... I am sure that no sponsor will hope to gain good business from that board.
Well, we dont really care much about politics in this industry, drama or who owns or runs a board...we just see see opportunity for marketing purpose only and so we take it...
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Old 2005-02-08, 02:15 PM   #19
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Just for fun I I decided to see how many members there would be left if I deleted all the ones with numbers and random characters...

Original: 4405 lines, couple of empty lines and city names, so lets say 4350 to be fair
Afterwards: 1725

There's still a lot of odd names in there. But all the screwed up names are gone
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Old 2005-02-08, 02:19 PM   #20
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How much does this guy charge? I think maybe one of the sponsors should post on here about how much traffic and quality of traffic he really sends on over to them. He truly does sound like a fraud though.

The only thing that would convince me is a sponsor saying he truly has sent good quality traffic.

GG&J is the only board I will even THINK about clicking on a sponsor link. That's a true compliment to Green Guy and Jim. I've seen their sites and I know they have good stuff. I wonder does this butcher guy have any sites that he can say that about? I doubt it.
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Old 2005-02-08, 02:26 PM   #22
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Jim & I are still working on getting him onto the show, since he did agree to after the posts he was upset about we already in the thread (which means he read them ahead of time)
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Old 2005-02-08, 03:54 PM   #23
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Nothing like paying to advertise on a board & then sending your own traffic
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Old 2005-02-08, 04:09 PM   #24
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And now urb is banned. Why??? Because he was trying to get the truth out.

I love people that ban members because they don't like their opinion.
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Old 2005-02-08, 05:30 PM   #25
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WoooHooo, we made the list
http://www.sponsorchat.com/showthread.php?t=3025

Allow me to clear this up for the scamchat board members keeping up on this thread. And, thanks for the emails, glad I could help. GreenguyandJim, Oprano and Netpond are not working together to hurt thebutcher or scamchat. We just all know how this business works and are finding the same discrepancies. He also speaks of us being jealous. I have to ask, what are we jealous of?
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