Gun law changes and reality

[Useless]

If I was elected to Congress, I'd push forward a proposition stating that guns should only be owned by licensed hunters and drug dealers. No one else has a practical reason for owning one, unless, of course, the hunter gets drunk and starts shooting at you, or the drug dealer gets pissed when you ask him to please stop trying to sell drugs to your kids and raping your wife. Otherwise, I can think of very few practical reasons to own a gun.

Being a rural New Yorker is a lot like being a mid-westerner. Lots of hunters around here, people without dental plans, and even the occasional Confederate flag on some ne'er-do-well's rusty old piece of shit pick-up truck which has been burning oil for the last three years, yet somehow, mysteriously, still runs and passes state inspection. I'm not a gun person. I don't feel the need to own one, though I do sometimes wish I had one - mostly when my neighbors are being noisy and obnoxious. I do, however, feel that everyone has the right to protect their family and their person as they see fit. I don't agree with what that paranoid nutjob in Texas did. He killed two people over STUFF. Not even his fucking STUFF. He really wanted to be the neighborhood hero by taking lives to protect his neighbor's possessions. Douchebag. I bet he feels differently about that now.

[papagmp]

Guess I'll never vote for you

Yes - I own guns and I will shot your ass if you enter my home without my permission. I still have a hole in the floor from the last time I was burglarized - shot the fuckin fridge - that will teach it to run when I shout "Freeze"

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

If I was elected to Congress, I'd push forward a proposition stating that guns should only be owned by licensed hunters and drug dealers. No one else has a practical reason for owning one, unless, of course, the hunter gets drunk and starts shooting at you, or the drug dealer gets pissed when you ask him to please stop trying to sell drugs to your kids and raping your wife. Otherwise, I can think of very few practical reasons to own a gun.

Being a rural New Yorker is a lot like being a mid-westerner. Lots of hunters around here, people without dental plans, and even the occasional Confederate flag on some ne'er-do-well's rusty old piece of shit pick-up truck which has been burning oil for the last three years, yet somehow, mysteriously, still runs and passes state inspection. I'm not a gun person. I don't feel the need to own one, though I do sometimes wish I had one - mostly when my neighbors are being noisy and obnoxious. I do, however, feel that everyone has the right to protect their family and their person as they see fit. I don't agree with what that paranoid nutjob in Texas did. He killed two people over STUFF. Not even his fucking STUFF. He really wanted to be the neighborhood hero by taking lives to protect his neighbor's possessions. Douchebag. I bet he feels differently about that now.

[docholly]

Originally Posted by virgohippy

Funny, I always thought the right to arms had more to do with defending yourself against oppressive GOVERNMENT rather then your neighbor.

Me too.. but what do I know..

[Cleo]

Ironic that guns are legal and isn't.

Too many people on this big rock anyway.

[SheepGuy]

Originally Posted by Cleo

Ironic that guns are legal and isn't.

Too many people on this big rock anyway.

Funny, up here is basically legal for personal use, but you go to jail for having a handgun.

[ArtWilliams]

... and we marry gays and lesbians. Oh yeah, on-premises swingers clubs are legal too. Shit, we're all going to hell here in Canada!

To borrow from Peter Ustinov, have you ever thought that Canada was America run by the Democrats?

Originally Posted by SheepGuy

Funny, up here is basically legal for personal use, but you go to jail for having a handgun.

[Cleo]

Originally Posted by SheepGuy

Funny, up here is basically legal for personal use, but you go to jail for having a handgun.

Decisions, decisions, freeze my fucking ass off or live in redneck hell, decisions, decisions...

Too bad Canada doesn't invade the US and overthrow our government.

Maple syrup for all!

[stuveltje]

well easy then in holland, we are not allowed to have any gun, guns are forbidden, also knifes are forbidden, not any weapen is allowed here, even the police are in huge problems when they shoot a person..,,and that happens maybe 1 time a year

[Cleo]

Is there anyplace warm that weed and sex is good and guns are bad?

[Useless]

Originally Posted by papagmp

Yes - I own guns and I will shot your ass if you enter my home without my permission. I still have a hole in the floor from the last time I was burglarized - shot the fuckin fridge - that will teach it to run when I shout "Freeze"

I bet that refrigerator will never try to steal from you again!

Honestly, no matter what weapon I have in hand, whether it be a pistol or a kitchen chair, if someone breaks into my home while myself and/or family are here, I'm not going to waste time on sizing up that person's intentions - I'm going to open up my mini-sized can of whoop-ass and see if I can break a bone or two before they either flee or kill me and rape my sleeping dogs. I'd much rather shoot my appliances as a stern warning than take the life of someone who wanted to steal my 10 year-old VCR or broken DVD player. (They better not touch that XBox 360! My son would kill them.)

If I witnessed someone unlawfully entering my neighbors' homes, well, that's just too bad for them. I'd call the police and probably hit the panic alarms on our cars to sort of let them know that a pussy like me is watching them from his dead-bolted house next-door. I'm not going to look for a tangle with television thieves who aren't harming anyone except the insurance company.

If the g'ment outlawed all firearms tomorrow, I wouldn't care and I'm not paranoid enough to believe that all of us/we semi-law-abiding citizens would be gathered up by gun-toting crack dealers and shot. I also don't care if they remain legal. I'm not one who cares about the true intention of this alleged Right to Bear Arms because most of the gun owners I know, excluding PapaGMP , are uber-patriots and believe every word that drips out of Bush's idiotic flapping cunt. The only way those people are going to revolt against the government is if religion, tobacco and sex with your sister is outlawed - or perhaps if an intelligent, well-spoken black man becomes president. But what's the chance of that happening?

[stuveltje]

Originally Posted by Cleo

Is there anyplace warm that weed and sex is good and guns are bad?

yes its here in holland, only we dont have hot days all of the year, but who cares, weed is legal and can be bought at every corner, hell you may even grow your own, the sex is good, also on every corner (okeeeeeee you have to pay for that one then)....now the hot days....thats an other thing, guns are forbidden
Hell the dutchies are vs to USA

[Cleo]

Some of my ancestors were from the Netherlands. I remember my Aunt telling me about wooden shoes and a miserable cold wet climate. She was very proud of being descended from Vikings. That side of my family are all fat giants that I don't have anything to do with but that is a whole other story.

Looks fucking cold to me.

[stuveltje]

Originally Posted by Cleo

Some of my ancestors were from the Netherlands. I remember my Aunt telling me about wooden shoes and a miserable cold wet climate. She was very proud of being descended from Vikings. That side of my family are all fat giants that I don't have anything to do with but that is a whole other story.

Looks fucking cold to me.

well where the fat giants came from of that side of your fam...i dont know, because the dutch are not hamburger eaters, we eat patatoes and veggies and a piece of meat everyday, so we eat healthy, the wooden shoes, beats me we are known for wooden shoes , but only the farmers wear them and the stupid toerist buy them (btw i have send several webmasters those things as a present), the temp i cant figure out, but today we had a F89.6 in celsius C32 which is so fucking hot for a dutchie....i like about F68 celsius C20, we are not used to high temps, but like the dutchies are we always complain or its to hot or to cold

[Cleo]

I know hot
http://uk.holidaysguide.yahoo.com/p-...iami_weather-i

[stuveltje]

Originally Posted by Cleo

I know hot
http://uk.holidaysguide.yahoo.com/p-...iami_weather-i

yep thats a hot temp, thats why me and hubby went every year to mallorca (the place i wanna buy a house and spent the rest of my life) mallorca has nice summer temp too, its hot still a different hot then in holland with that temp, why i dont know, would be the humid factor i think, i just wanna have a higher temp in winter.......holland is cold and wet most of the year and to get back on this topic...totally without GUNS

[Cleo]

Back on topic.
Nice to see that the US is not letting all those guns go to waste.
http://www.statemaster.com/graph/cri...te-per-100-000

[papagmp]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

I bet that refrigerator will never try to steal from you again!

Honestly, no matter what weapon I have in hand, whether it be a pistol or a kitchen chair, if someone breaks into my home while myself and/or family are here, I'm not going to waste time on sizing up that person's intentions - I'm going to open up my mini-sized can of whoop-ass and see if I can break a bone or two before they either flee or kill me and rape my sleeping dogs. I'd much rather shoot my appliances as a stern warning than take the life of someone who wanted to steal my 10 year-old VCR or broken DVD player. (They better not touch that XBox 360! My son would kill them.)

If I witnessed someone unlawfully entering my neighbors' homes, well, that's just too bad for them. I'd call the police and probably hit the panic alarms on our cars to sort of let them know that a pussy like me is watching them from his dead-bolted house next-door. I'm not going to look for a tangle with television thieves who aren't harming anyone except the insurance company.

If the g'ment outlawed all firearms tomorrow, I wouldn't care and I'm not paranoid enough to believe that all of us/we semi-law-abiding citizens would be gathered up by gun-toting crack dealers and shot. I also don't care if they remain legal. I'm not one who cares about the true intention of this alleged Right to Bear Arms because most of the gun owners I know, excluding PapaGMP , are uber-patriots and believe every word that drips out of Bush's idiotic flapping cunt. The only way those people are going to revolt against the government is if religion, tobacco and sex with your sister is outlawed - or perhaps if an intelligent, well-spoken black man becomes president. But what's the chance of that happening?

Hell - I'm not paranoid - never carry mine even though I have a carry permit. My German wife was a completive hand-gunner and her dad trained the police in the German state of Saarland on proper handgun use. He was the only German civilian I ever knew that had a carry permit. But nothin gets a bugler out of your house quicker that a hissing radiator on the back of a dieing fridge.

And I don't give a fuck if they ban tobacco but I feel sorry for the church-fucks that try to ban me from having sex with your sister.......

[Pagan]

Where it really gets scary is the great folk in charge here in Texas decided that a "man's castle" extends to his vehicle. Now out here in the country, that isn't so bad because kids are taught to properly handle firearms when they are old enough. But in the city?? Puts a new wrinkle into road rage.

The thieves are the ones who chose to break into the property, they are the ones who chose to break the law. There is a very good wrap-up of this particular case on the Houston Examiner's website. Texas law does allow us to protect our property, especially if we feel we are in danger. It also allows us to protect our neighbors. Now, it allows us to carry weapons in vehicles.

Do I like these laws? Not necessarily. But... if you intend to trespass or break into someone's home, don't do it in Texas. Take your criminal ways elsewhere, please.

[Maj. Stress]

Originally Posted by papagmp

But nothin gets a bugler out of your house quicker that a hissing radiator on the back of a dieing fridge.

That'll teach em not to play their horn in your house.

[Mr Exotic]

I was raised around guns, my grandpa had his own fucking armory. He was a gun collector, so I've shot some pretty sweet guns. I recently shot a '44 M1 Carbine, which was a WW2 combat weapon. People in my family and everyone I know with guns has them as a historical collection, uses them to hunt with, and some have a handgun locked away for protection in their night stand or in the glovebox in their cars. I've personally had a gun pulled on me when I confronted a scrawny druggie peice of shit about stealing a CD player out of my car, and the little fucker pointed a gun at me, not a very nice experience. Personally the way I see it if guns are made illegal then the only people carrying guns are criminals. But to get back on topic, yes I've heard of people actually using guns sucessfully for protection. The people I know that have guns for protection never ever dream of having to use them, but have them just in case. I know if some bastard ever tried robbing my little old grandma that bastard would be in for a rude awakening.