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Old 2006-01-02, 11:23 AM   #51
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If the return is too high, if they are asking you to put money in to get money out, then it is very likely a pyramid or near pyramid.

If people stopped putting money in tomorrow, and not another cent went in, do you honestly think you woudl get paided back?

Nope.

They want you to re-invest. They want to keep the money in the game. They need it to be able to pay others and keep the cycle going, convincing people like you to "put it all back in and make it grow some more".

Good luck with it, but I would NOT recommend it to anyone.

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Old 2006-01-02, 08:32 PM   #52
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There's only one level in the affiliate program, so it's not a pyramid. Most likely scenario is that it's a Ponzi scheme. If everybody stopped putting money in, I'm sure the program would go down. But how likely is that? They DON'T want you to "put it all back in and make it grow some more." They won't let you. The maximum you can have in memberships is $6000. If you're at the max level, you're forced to take your profits out because you can't reinvest anything more than your principal. If it is some kind of scam, why would they force people to take their profits out? They even track IP's to make sure people aren't running multiple accounts and they DO ban people who violate their terms of service that way. This month I'll have to take at least $4000 in profits out of the program because I'm at the maximum level now.

I'm not "recommending" that anyone else risk their own money the way I did. I risked my money two years ago when I bought Blue Wave, in the hopes that the website would generate enough income to justify the expense. I risk my money every month purchasing advertising, in the hopes that the advertising will generate enough sales to justify the expense. A lot of times it doesn't, but I keep hoping to find the magical traffic. I guess I'm just a risk-taker. This "get paid to surf" program is the first risk I've taken in years that is actually paying off for me. I thought some of the other risk-takers out there would appreciate knowing about it. If people I know make money from it, I'll feel good for having told them about it. If people I know lose money in it, I'll feel bad for having told them about it. It's a risk.
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Well, for a few days anyway, I won't have any of my own money at risk in the program. It just paid me another $4300, leaving me $5800 in the bank account I use for this. I can't put any of it back into the program because I'm still at the maximum level with two $3000 memberships running. Those were paid for entirely from profits from the program and the $5800 in my bank more than pays off the credit card I used initially to join up. Feels good when the risk goes away.
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Old 2006-01-14, 02:31 PM   #54
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The program paid me $4800 yesterday. I'm expecting another $4800 payment around Wednesday the 18th.
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Not to sound repetitious, but great, buy some groceries and let your daughter take a break from the dumpster diving.
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I will, Paul, thanks. As of today, I can afford to buy meat again and I'm going on the Atkins diet to lose the weight I gained eating nothing but fast food these past months.
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Old 2006-01-18, 11:21 AM   #57
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Got paid another $4700 from the program yesterday. If this keeps up all year, I think I'll diversify with some other similar paid surfing programs and maybe sell my adult website business. Most of my time goes into the business, but most of my money now comes from the paid surfing.
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Old 2006-01-18, 12:02 PM   #58
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I will admit I did not read this entire thead as 1/2 way into the 2nd page I just could not help myself from posting. Ann, stop bull shitting everyone ok. Stop talking shit. It's simple, you bought a large house when you were making all this money. Sell the fucking house and buy a smaller one. interest rates are still low and I'm sure you can find one around the dumpsters. Also in the time it takes your child to dive a trash can, she can be surfing and making all this money like you are or guess what. She is 19 she can get a fucking job and give you some money. Heres the other part that freaks me out. Your son went on a vacation from all his surfing. If my sis was going into trash cans to get food, the last thing I would be doing is taking a vacation. Mom and sis would get anything I had left over after my bills. I mean seriously my wife and I spend $400 per month on food and we shop once a month. We like to have plenty to eat just in case we have company. I would think if we left out the snacks and junk we would be able to get a lot more (real meals) for our money. What you are saying makes no sense to me. You surly can not manage your money correctly. You are pulling in 4k checks but yet still want to drop your CC down and risk your credit? Just sounds dumb. And you ask why some WM dont want to get involved with stuff like this? We me for one would not want anything from my surfers other then and honest buck. I would not try to get them in a program like this, I'm sure in the long run it would hurt me more then benefit. But like I said before just stop bullshitting us.
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Hmm, this is a pretty weird thread. I'm pretty sure this is a case of "Sales Pitch Gone Too Far"...the only thing lacking in the pitch is someone blind being healed by the power of a pyramid scheme.
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Hmm, this is a pretty weird thread. I'm pretty sure this is a case of "Sales Pitch Gone Too Far"...
You have to give her credit for being relentless with it, though. "Damn the torpedos, full speed ahead"




(and here I swore to myself that I wasn't going to bumb this for her)
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That's old news, juggernaut. I'm making $7000+ per month in profits from the surfing program now and buying my food from grocery stores. I'll copy and paste my account history for you to examine:

This first part is a history of my payments into the program:
135214 2005-11-15 $1800.00 Automatically Processed Upgrade Package StormPay
138439 2005-11-16 $1800.00 Automatically Processed Upgrade Package StormPay
178730 2005-11-27 $1380.00 Automatically Processed Upgrade Package StormPay
206907 2005-12-04 $3000.00 Automatically Processed Upgrade Package StormPay
228278 2005-12-09 $1800.00 Automatically Processed Upgrade Package StormPay
264864 2005-12-16 $1800.00 Automatically Processed Upgrade Package StormPay
305593 2005-12-23 $3000.00 Automatically Processed Upgrade Package StormPay
342067 2005-12-28 $3000.00 Automatically Processed Upgrade Package StormPay
402310 2006-01-07 $3000.00 Automatically Processed Upgrade Package StormPay
437478 2006-01-11 $3000.00 Automatically Processed Upgrade Package StormPay
490069 2006-01-19 $3000.00 Automatically Processed Upgrade Package StormPay
570260 2006-01-26 $3000.00 Automatically Processed Upgrade Package StormPay
624599 2006-01-31 $3000.00 Automatically Processed Upgrade Package StormPay

The dates on those are the expiration dates of the upgrades, which correspond to the payment dates below. It usually takes about a week for each payment to be processed.

This second part is payments I've received from the program:
134984 2005-11-15 $2592.00 $0.00 135214 StormPay
processed
138205 2005-11-16 $2592.00 $0.00 138439 StormPay
processed
178296 2005-11-27 $1993.68 $6.48 178730 StormPay
processed
206569 2005-12-04 $4752.00 $432.00 206907 StormPay
processed
227909 2005-12-09 $2592.00 $0.00 228278 StormPay
processed
264448 2005-12-16 $2383.92 $7.92 264864 StormPay
processed
305114 2005-12-23 $4612.32 $652.32 305593 StormPay
processed
341539 2005-12-28 $4363.20 $43.20 342067 StormPay
processed
401674 2006-01-07 $4868.64 $548.64 402310 StormPay
processed
436702 2006-01-11 $4789.44 $469.44 437478 StormPay
processed
489243 2006-01-19 $5598.72 $1278.72 490069 StormPay
pending

The first dollar amount is the amount of the payment. Second dollar amount is the amount of referrer commission included in the payment. The last 4 payments are payments I received or will receive this month. Subtract $3000 from each one to get my profit. It comes out to over $7300 in profit for January.

This next part is a history of my referrer commissions:
168273 2005-11-26 $6.48 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 120569
184699 2005-11-30 $216.00 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 135504
187518 2005-12-01 $216.00 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 135504
260448 2005-12-15 $7.92 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 120569
271287 2005-12-18 $0.72 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 174471
271307 2005-12-18 $72.00 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 166118
275854 2005-12-19 $2.88 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 173473
284353 2005-12-20 $288.00 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 135504
284330 2005-12-20 $288.00 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 135504
293702 2005-12-22 $0.72 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 174471
306846 2005-12-25 $7.20 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 189375
318429 2005-12-27 $36.00 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 189375
325126 2005-12-28 $7.92 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 120569
325338 2005-12-28 $2.16 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 194248
343798 2005-12-30 $131.76 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 166118
352861 2006-01-01 $360.00 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 135504
355808 2006-01-01 $2.16 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 206492
365801 2006-01-03 $0.72 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 174471
372803 2006-01-04 $7.92 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 120569
380897 2006-01-06 $36.00 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 189375
390767 2006-01-07 $100.80 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 166118
392076 2006-01-07 $12.24 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 206492
392178 2006-01-07 $0.72 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 221081
394392 2006-01-07 $21.60 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 189375
403531 2006-01-08 $360.00 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 135504
406287 2006-01-09 $1.44 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 230767
407888 2006-01-09 $7.20 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 233168
433619 2006-01-11 $72.00 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 238445
441564 2006-01-12 $28.80 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 239991
453194 2006-01-13 $0.72 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 251257
450363 2006-01-13 $360.00 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 135504
446155 2006-01-13 $61.20 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 206492
459992 2006-01-14 $10.80 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 251466
467129 2006-01-15 $25.20 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 230767
467309 2006-01-15 $72.00 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 256778
474004 2006-01-16 $237.60 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 189375
487205 2006-01-17 $1.44 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 251257
499262 2006-01-18 $70.56 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 120569
495719 2006-01-18 $158.40 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 189375
499598 2006-01-18 $120.24 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 166118
502953 2006-01-19 $59.76 Level 1 Referral Upgrade Commission - Upgraded User 238445

Those are my stats. If you think I went to the trouble of making all that up, seriously, it's not that important to me. Even without referral commissions, I'd make $6000/month in profit just from doing the surfing.
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Old 2006-01-19, 10:22 AM   #62
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DO you not get it?????????????????? We are NOT interested in your scheme, several are disgusted by your ability to blow off the fact that your daughter went dumpster diving for you (I might add I was even more disgraced for you once you posted that she had a job and made money, but she went dumpster diving for YOU because you wanted to save your almighty credit card rating) and we ARENT planning on changing our minds. Hell perhaps your daughter could have taken a vacation like your son, but between work and your daily meal that she had to provide, she hasn't had a chance to....

I am amazed that after seeing the responses here, you still don't let it go!
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You have to give her credit for being relentless with it, though. "Damn the torpedos, full speed ahead"
She'd make a good quarterback, she stays in the pocket no matter what's coming her way.

As for Ann, I don't doubt you're making money with this scheme...but come on fess up that the dumpster diving thing was sales pitch gone bad because there's no way that's true.
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The dumpster diving thing was just an honest answer to a question about why I didn't use my credit card to buy groceries instead of using it to invest in something that would make money for me. When you start using credit cards to buy consumables out of necessity, you know your're on the way down the tubes. I wanted to use my credit card to invest in something that would fix my financial situation, not make it worse. Obviously, it was a mistake to share so much about my personal life.

I'm going to take fetish1's advice. Unless someone asks me to respond in this thread, I'll stop posting here. After it dies, I'll start a new thread and try to be careful in that one not to share personal information about myself, since it's totally irrelevent to the topic anyway.
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When you start using credit cards to buy consumables out of necessity, you know your're on the way down the tubes.
Most people would say that once your children are eating out trash cans, you've already slid out of the tubes. If I ever put my credit rating ahead of feeding my children, shoot me.
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Most people would say that once your children are eating out trash cans, you've already slid out of the tubes. If I ever put my credit rating ahead of feeding my children, shoot me.
LOL That's the sad part UW, her daughter has a job and goes to college, and she let the daughter feed her by diving into dumpsters to save the "spending the credit card money". I can see it now, the girl gets done with work and school and a friend says, "wanna go grab a pizza with the rest of us?" Daughters response, "Nope, sorry gotta go get mom some food outta the dumpster cause she doesn't want to ruin her credit rating, maybe some other time!"
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After it dies, I'll start a new thread...
I'd recommend simply dropping the subject entirely. The last time you posted a new thread on this same topic the moderators merged the two back to one. I think the message there is pretty clear.
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I'm going to take fetish1's advice. Unless someone asks me to respond in this thread, I'll stop posting here.
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In response to fetish1: I usually work 12/hours/day on my website business, 7 days/week. I just can't seem to get back up over the $4,000/month level with my sales, and that just barely pays the bills. I'm working a lot harder now than when I was making $12,000/month. If I was comfortably making lots of extra money from it like you people apparently do, I would not have tried the "get paid to surf" thing either. I had thought the downturn in income from the adult website business was something a lot of webmasters were experiencing, not just me. I guess that's not the case. That's depressing. I wonder how I got left behind when all the money was being divided up.
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Yeah 'she' says she only works 12 hours a day on her sites... I work 18.
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I've been ignoring this thread, mostly because of it's location

Can someone summarize this in a sentence or 2 & let me know if anyone needs to be BANNED!
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