TPG or Free Site?

drtongue · 2004-09-21, 12:34 PM

Would like some feedback on this topic. I have a bunch of free sites out there that are not performing as well as I would have hoped. The traffic is coming in but the banner clicks are miserable and I am not making any money.

My questions to all of you out there are this:

1. TPG or Free Site? Which ones have given the most of you the best success on making some money off of them?

2. What is the best converting content? Lesbian? Gay? Hardcore? MILF? etc etc.

Its getting frustrating for me to spend the time and effort to get the sites up and get the traffic and not see the results. There has got to be a way!

TIA
DT

Ramster · 2004-09-21, 12:39 PM

Things are not what they use to be. TGP is tough if you are not known by the site owners. Best bet in TGP is to buy partner accounts at the monthly rates they offer.

Free Sites? Keep building and make them SE friendly.

Greenguy · 2004-09-21, 12:41 PM

TGP & Free Sites aren't exactly the same category - remember:

TGP is to Link List as Galleries are to Free Sites

Of course, with every free site you build, you're probably building 2 galleries as well, so save copies of those & submit them to TGP's - it's like killing 2 nirds with one stone

As far as what converts better, I think it's party due to what you like & thus are able to honestly market to the surfers.

Kinky · 2004-09-21, 12:44 PM

most of it is just good old trial and error... some people swear by TGP and some swear by free sites... there really is no easy or right or wrong answer to your questions... you just have to keep trying until you find what works for you.... maybe try posting links to a few of your free sites in the Link List forum and ask for others to critique them or give you some tips to help get more click thrus and signups

(and remember that selling porn is a marathon.... not a sprint... it takes some time before the money starts rolling in)

Corleone · 2004-09-21, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ramster
Things are not what they use to be. TGP is tough if you are not known by the site owners. Best bet in TGP is to buy partner accounts at the monthly rates they offer.

Free Sites? Keep building and make them SE friendly.

The best accounts are free

Just keep on submitting and after a few accepted galls ask for a PA... you can get some stable traffic to your TGPS very fast... but don't expect crazy ratios like 1:50 with tgp traffic...

1:700 is fine..

FS are great for google etc...

As GG said build a free site submit and build 2 galls out of the FS to get maximum traffic to your offers...

the best converting niche? not sure... every niche does well if you promote them right + you need niche traffic...

niche tgps & LLs will send you the best traffic...

the New Shemp · 2004-09-21, 02:29 PM

listen tongue....we dont need anymore TGPs

HowlingWulf · 2004-09-22, 05:41 PM

If you mean galleries vs free sites, I would do galleries with a 3rd link out to your SEO Hub.

Certifiedbitch · 2004-09-23, 04:36 AM

do you mean galleries vs. free sites?

Trax · 2004-09-23, 06:49 AM

those 2 are hard to compare...

I buy gallery spots generating more than 450k uniques a day to my galleries which means a lot of signups to my paysites

Thats nearly impossible to be done with freesites.
However I am HIGHLY in love with my own freesites and the SE traffic they get.

I won't answer #2

Vendzilla · 2004-09-23, 11:46 PM

I'm still exploring the whole tgp thing, a niche tgp with 50k a day would be nice, getting there!

STEVEN · 2004-09-24, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Greenguy
it's like killing 2 nirds with one stone

hey, what do you have against nirds?

Greenguy · 2004-09-24, 07:01 AM

Tucking Fypos!!!!!!

manmal · 2004-09-25, 03:22 PM

If you asked me right now I would say tgp but 1 year ago when I was very active in building free sites then I would say free sites - but ether way what ever you chose just put a lot of effort in the work and the money will come I'm sure about that. It take times . About the niches for me : shemale is on first place then spanking bbw mature smoking.

Kinky you are wise ( and remember that selling porn is a marathon.... not a sprint... it takes some time before the money starts rolling in )

Thank you

IvanM · 2004-09-27, 06:31 PM

All greetings!
I'm the first time on this forum but as advanced tgp poster I'll tell, that at once will be not possible to receive quckly money from posting galleries.
I can recommend to use the sponsor's content who is universal on niches.
For example, set in which "hardcore action of blonde in stocking", can participate in posting general tgps and teen tgps and in narrow fetish tgps.
Thus, you initially expand geography of posting.
Only so in the beginning quickly enough it is possible to generate own base for the further work.

Chop Smith · 2004-09-29, 08:36 PM

Has to be one of the most asked questions boards. Here are some numbers that I put together recently:

SALES CLICKS BANDWIDTH RATIO
Link List 89% 75% 37% 1:1620
TGP 11% 25% 63% 1:4408

chilihost · 2004-09-30, 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by drtongue
The traffic is coming in but the banner clicks are miserable

Banner's have been known to be poor performers, try using some unique teaser text and giving your surfers the desire to click to your sponsor.

Maybe it also has to do with your particular sites or sponsors, have you tried changing things around a bit to spice it up?

cheers,
Luke

chilihost · 2004-09-30, 06:36 PM

D'oh, forgot to answer your question.

Stick with freesites, if you ar frustrated by poor conversions with your freesites you will be suicidal off the even poorer conversions of tgp galleries!

cheers,
Luke

2004-09-21, 12:34 PM	#1
drtongue If something goes wrong at the plant, blame the guy who can't speak English Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 32	TPG or Free Site? Would like some feedback on this topic. I have a bunch of free sites out there that are not performing as well as I would have hoped. The traffic is coming in but the banner clicks are miserable and I am not making any money. My questions to all of you out there are this: 1. TPG or Free Site? Which ones have given the most of you the best success on making some money off of them? 2. What is the best converting content? Lesbian? Gay? Hardcore? MILF? etc etc. Its getting frustrating for me to spend the time and effort to get the sites up and get the traffic and not see the results. There has got to be a way! TIA DT

2004-09-21, 12:41 PM	#3
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,786	TGP & Free Sites aren't exactly the same category - remember: TGP is to Link List as Galleries are to Free Sites Of course, with every free site you build, you're probably building 2 galleries as well, so save copies of those & submit them to TGP's - it's like killing 2 nirds with one stone As far as what converts better, I think it's party due to what you like & thus are able to honestly market to the surfers. __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2004-09-21, 12:44 PM	#4
Kinky HEY NOW! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: in the Matrix Glitching on an Endless Loop. Loop. Loop. Loop. Loo Posts: 1,218	most of it is just good old trial and error... some people swear by TGP and some swear by free sites... there really is no easy or right or wrong answer to your questions... you just have to keep trying until you find what works for you.... maybe try posting links to a few of your free sites in the Link List forum and ask for others to critique them or give you some tips to help get more click thrus and signups (and remember that selling porn is a marathon.... not a sprint... it takes some time before the money starts rolling in) __________________ don't mind me im nothing but nonsense <3 Last edited by Kinky; 2004-09-21 at 12:46 PM..

2004-09-21, 02:29 PM	#6
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2004-09-23, 04:36 AM	#8
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2004-09-21, 12:39 PM	#2
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2004-09-22, 05:41 PM	#7
HowlingWulf Me fail English? That's unpossible! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: FL Posts: 1,381	If you mean galleries vs free sites, I would do galleries with a 3rd link out to your SEO Hub.

2004-09-23, 06:49 AM	#9
Trax Hey, can you take the wheel for a second, I have to scratch my self in two places at once Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: 3rd Rock From Sun Posts: 181	those 2 are hard to compare... I buy gallery spots generating more than 450k uniques a day to my galleries which means a lot of signups to my paysites Thats nearly impossible to be done with freesites. However I am HIGHLY in love with my own freesites and the SE traffic they get. I won't answer #2 __________________ Submit FS's to: MindBlowing Porn \| Fetish Links

2004-09-23, 11:46 PM	#10
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2004-09-24, 07:01 AM	#12
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,786	Tucking Fypos!!!!!! __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2004-09-25, 03:22 PM	#13
manmal Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: MKD Posts: 25	If you asked me right now I would say tgp but 1 year ago when I was very active in building free sites then I would say free sites - but ether way what ever you chose just put a lot of effort in the work and the money will come I'm sure about that. It take times . About the niches for me : shemale is on first place then spanking bbw mature smoking. Kinky you are wise ( and remember that selling porn is a marathon.... not a sprint... it takes some time before the money starts rolling in ) Thank you __________________ Zzzzzz

2004-09-27, 06:31 PM	#14
IvanM If something goes wrong at the plant, blame the guy who can't speak English Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 35	All greetings! I'm the first time on this forum but as advanced tgp poster I'll tell, that at once will be not possible to receive quckly money from posting galleries. I can recommend to use the sponsor's content who is universal on niches. For example, set in which "hardcore action of blonde in stocking", can participate in posting general tgps and teen tgps and in narrow fetish tgps. Thus, you initially expand geography of posting. Only so in the beginning quickly enough it is possible to generate own base for the further work. __________________

2004-09-29, 08:36 PM	#15
Chop Smith Eighteen 'til I Die Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,168	Has to be one of the most asked questions boards. Here are some numbers that I put together recently: SALES CLICKS BANDWIDTH RATIO Link List 89% 75% 37% 1:1620 TGP 11% 25% 63% 1:4408 __________________ Last edited by Chop Smith; 2004-09-29 at 08:39 PM..

2004-09-30, 06:36 PM	#17
chilihost Look at 'em. Watchin' my TV. Sittin on my couch. You better not be in my ass groove! Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 465	D'oh, forgot to answer your question. Stick with freesites, if you ar frustrated by poor conversions with your freesites you will be suicidal off the even poorer conversions of tgp galleries! cheers, Luke __________________ HunkMoney+BritishBucks+LatinoBucks=50+ gay sites!