How to Get Submissions to my LL

fatum · 2006-01-17, 03:14 PM

I have opened Gay Lovers Club Link List a few weeks ago and the problem is i am not getting any submissions..

I am thinking of link exchanges on submit page but not sure if that will really work...

I would like to hear your suggestions...
Thanks

ronnie · 2006-01-17, 04:12 PM

Trading submits has helped me. Also getting added on the adult webmaster resource sites on the net. And of course GG&J traffic resource page is a great place to get lsited.

ronnie

Bill · 2006-01-17, 05:24 PM

Well, you need to talk to your submitters and prospective submitters, and tell them why it's a good deal to submit to you. That, of course, presumes that you have set up your system so that it _is_ a good deal to submit to you.

You should have about a thousand freesites of your own already listed, and those freesites should all be sending a good percentage of their traffic back to your list, for example. The benefit you then offer your submitters is this flow of traffic. In that way you've structured your system so that it looks like a good deal to sub to your list.

If you are just going to put up a new linklist, you have to be clear about the advantages of subbing to you, and possibly offer special benefits to your best submitters. So, again, talk to your submitters.

fetish1 · 2006-01-17, 06:41 PM

You have VERY few sites listed there. Most people won't even find you and if they do they may not bother because they are linking to you with LITTLE chance of getting any hits back. Some people starting out (just to get some links up and listed) will offer on adult boards to let people submit with no recip required until they have a decent amount of links on their list. That way you fill it up with links and if they start seeing traffic they will continue to submit to ya.

Just an idea...

MadMax · 2006-01-17, 09:22 PM

http://www.fetishphiles.net/tutorial...bmissions.html

MeatPounder · 2006-01-17, 09:42 PM

Good advice as always Max

fatum · 2006-01-18, 06:38 PM

Thanks for all the great advices.
They would sure help...

Yahook · 2006-01-18, 11:12 PM

Very good article MadMax, it was interesting to read it.

ecchi · 2006-01-19, 05:40 AM

1. Use the spam boards on all the WM boards to announce your site (this worked well for me a couple of years back for a TGP). But only use the boards that are for spam, spamming the "non-spam" boards will piss off other members of the board and get you on a lot of blacklists.

2. If you need lots of submits, why do you have the rule "No more than 1 submit per webmaster during 24 hours."? Wait until you have plenty of submissions before adding this.

3. If you have been reading recent threads on this board you will be aware that a lot of WMs take extreme exception to sites in bad English, so check yours through carefully (eg. "Free e-mail addresses don't allowed").

4. If you can afford it, most WM boards sell advertising. But be aware this is "dead money" (set up costs). A few years ago I won some free advertising on a now defunct WM site, I used it to push a link list and TGP site, it got me quite a few submitters. In the case of your site, probably best to use the board aimed at gay webmasters.

Xeno · 2006-01-19, 08:53 AM

Well...here is my two bits...hehe...

First, congrats on wanting to work a LL/directory...and second, I will try not to get too wordy but its good advice.

It's no lie that working a LL is a lot of work and this is something most will discover if they are serious about it. You have to start from somewhere and not everyone can open doors with 1000's of links in place. Most importantly, this is a business that doesn't happen over night unless you have strong connections so be prepared to work long hours and don't lose faith as this is the one enemy of a LL going down.

Here are some ideas for you

make sure your LL is looking good and in working order
Edit your site and work your search engine optimization for every page on a regular basis
Sign-up with sponsors and add their sites to your categories to at least get something in
Take some time each day and surf the net with select keywords and contact sites to submi
**with any contacts you do, try not to spam or sound spammy
Submit to as many search engines as you can
Get your LL added to as many Adult webmaster resource sites as you can
Create a decen signature for your forum posts here to bring attention and to Brand yourself so everyone remembers you
Participate in Bulletin boards (like this one) on a regular basis
Use "only" the spam forums to post your LL looking for submissions
Try to setup some link trades with other link lists and directories
If you can offer webmasters anything special to entice them and to show why they should submit to your LL, promote that
Dont' limit yourself like 1 or 2 submissions per day each...at least not when you are new
IMPORTANT -- establish a positive relationship with webmasters from LL's and with those who create sites...this is utmost key
If you can afford it.. get some advertising where webmasters hang out
Perhaps create some tutorials for the forums...this is a good way to get noticed.

lol...ok...thats a start...there are other methods too which I am sure others will help out

I know of a couple sites you might want to link trade with: one is www.theboyzlist.com (member here at GG&Jim under theboyzlist ) and the other is with us (obviously...hehe) and with our new toplist www.69topsites.com

I don't mind helping out a fellow webmaster

hmmm...I just thought I would say that other tutorial from the fetish one above post is pretty good actually ...

theboyzlist · 2006-01-19, 08:59 AM

Nice site.

Well, seems you have received some good advise already, so i wont try and add to it.

However, if you wish to trade hardlinks, and list yourself at my site please feel free. You can PM me or ICQ me (244711635) or MSN webmaster@theboyzlist.com. Be good to get to know some more gay LL webmasters

Take care and good work

2006-01-17, 03:14 PM	#1
fatum Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 26	How to Get Submissions to my LL I have opened Gay Lovers Club Link List a few weeks ago and the problem is i am not getting any submissions.. I am thinking of link exchanges on submit page but not sure if that will really work... I would like to hear your suggestions... Thanks __________________ Submit Your Gay Sites - Gay Lovers Club

2006-01-17, 06:41 PM	#4
fetish1 Remember to rebel against the authorities, kids! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: North Dakota AKA Frozen Hell Posts: 401	You have VERY few sites listed there. Most people won't even find you and if they do they may not bother because they are linking to you with LITTLE chance of getting any hits back. Some people starting out (just to get some links up and listed) will offer on adult boards to let people submit with no recip required until they have a decent amount of links on their list. That way you fill it up with links and if they start seeing traffic they will continue to submit to ya. Just an idea... __________________ Paul Markham Content

2006-01-18, 06:38 PM	#7
fatum Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 26	Thanks for all the great advices. They would sure help... __________________ Submit Your Gay Sites - Gay Lovers Club

2006-01-19, 08:53 AM	#10
Xeno Do you want the job done right, or do you want it done fast? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 494	Well...here is my two bits...hehe... First, congrats on wanting to work a LL/directory...and second, I will try not to get too wordy but its good advice. It's no lie that working a LL is a lot of work and this is something most will discover if they are serious about it. You have to start from somewhere and not everyone can open doors with 1000's of links in place. Most importantly, this is a business that doesn't happen over night unless you have strong connections so be prepared to work long hours and don't lose faith as this is the one enemy of a LL going down. Here are some ideas for you make sure your LL is looking good and in working order Edit your site and work your search engine optimization for every page on a regular basis Sign-up with sponsors and add their sites to your categories to at least get something in Take some time each day and surf the net with select keywords and contact sites to submi *with any contacts you do, try not to spam or sound spammy Submit to as many search engines as you can Get your LL added to as many Adult webmaster resource sites as you can Create a decen signature for your forum posts here to bring attention and to Brand yourself so everyone remembers you Participate in Bulletin boards (like this one) on a regular basis Use "only" the spam forums to post your LL looking for submissions Try to setup some link trades with other link lists and directories If you can offer webmasters anything special to entice them and to show why they should submit to your LL, promote that Dont' limit yourself like 1 or 2 submissions per day each...at least not when you are new IMPORTANT -- establish a positive relationship with webmasters from LL's and with those who create sites...this is utmost key If you can afford it.. get some advertising where webmasters hang out Perhaps create some tutorials for the forums...this is a good way to get noticed. lol...ok...thats a start...there are other methods too which I am sure others will help out I know of a couple sites you might want to link trade with: one is www.theboyzlist.com (member here at GG&Jim under theboyzlist ) and the other is with us (obviously...hehe) and with our new toplist www.69topsites.com I don't mind helping out a fellow webmaster hmmm...I just thought I would say that other tutorial from the fetish one above post is pretty good actually ... __________________ Why I never sleep anymore... Web Designing Last edited by Xeno; 2006-01-19 at 08:59 AM..*

2006-01-19, 08:59 AM	#11
theboyzlist Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 21	Nice site. Well, seems you have received some good advise already, so i wont try and add to it. However, if you wish to trade hardlinks, and list yourself at my site please feel free. You can PM me or ICQ me (244711635) or MSN webmaster@theboyzlist.com. Be good to get to know some more gay LL webmasters Take care and good work __________________ The Boyz List Last edited by theboyzlist; 2006-01-19 at 09:02 AM..

2006-01-17, 04:12 PM	#2
ronnie Wheither you think you can or you think you can't, Your right. Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: midwest Posts: 2,274	Trading submits has helped me. Also getting added on the adult webmaster resource sites on the net. And of course GG&J traffic resource page is a great place to get lsited. ronnie

2006-01-17, 05:24 PM	#3
Bill Selling porn allows me to stay in a constant state of Bliss - ain't that a trip! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,914	Well, you need to talk to your submitters and prospective submitters, and tell them why it's a good deal to submit to you. That, of course, presumes that you have set up your system so that it _is_ a good deal to submit to you. You should have about a thousand freesites of your own already listed, and those freesites should all be sending a good percentage of their traffic back to your list, for example. The benefit you then offer your submitters is this flow of traffic. In that way you've structured your system so that it looks like a good deal to sub to your list. If you are just going to put up a new linklist, you have to be clear about the advantages of subbing to you, and possibly offer special benefits to your best submitters. So, again, talk to your submitters.

2006-01-17, 09:22 PM	#5
MadMax "Without evil there can be no good, so it must be good to be evil sometimes" ~ Satan Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Motor City, baby, where carjacking was invented! Now GIMME THOSE SHOES! Posts: 2,385	http://www.fetishphiles.net/tutorial...bmissions.html

2006-01-17, 09:42 PM	#6
MeatPounder Women might be able to fake orgasms But men can fake whole relationships Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Fort Lauderdale, Fl Posts: 2,408	Good advice as always Max

2006-01-18, 11:12 PM	#8
Yahook Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 511	Very good article MadMax, it was interesting to read it.

2006-01-19, 05:40 AM	#9
ecchi Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: About to be evicted!!!! Posts: 4,082	1. Use the spam boards on all the WM boards to announce your site (this worked well for me a couple of years back for a TGP). But only use the boards that are for spam, spamming the "non-spam" boards will piss off other members of the board and get you on a lot of blacklists. 2. If you need lots of submits, why do you have the rule "No more than 1 submit per webmaster during 24 hours."? Wait until you have plenty of submissions before adding this. 3. If you have been reading recent threads on this board you will be aware that a lot of WMs take extreme exception to sites in bad English, so check yours through carefully (eg. "Free e-mail addresses don't allowed"). 4. If you can afford it, most WM boards sell advertising. But be aware this is "dead money" (set up costs). A few years ago I won some free advertising on a now defunct WM site, I used it to push a link list and TGP site, it got me quite a few submitters. In the case of your site, probably best to use the board aimed at gay webmasters.