I signed up with Big Hitters, was that a mistake?

stanteau · 2005-10-20, 09:10 AM

A Co-worker tunred me onto Big Hitters and said he makes gangbusters off of it so I went to their site and they have a deal, $99 toy site activation, so I jumped on it along with a $165 advertising fee.

My advertising kicked in yesterday (supposedly) and I added a bunch of banners and such and I still have not had one sale in almost a month.

Should I wait a little longer or was this a bad business venture? Or do I simply need to do something I'm missing?

SirMoby · 2005-10-20, 09:22 AM

I don't know anything about them about and there is no URL so I can't even take a look for you

stanteau · 2005-10-20, 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirMoby

I don't know anything about them about and there is no URL so I can't even take a look for you

well here's my site

http://sintimatetoys.com/

And theirs

http://bighitters.com/

And their payout site

http://pecash.com/

Linkster · 2005-10-20, 10:06 AM

So basically you are saying that you paid $500 to have someone insert a script on a domain to pull one of the standard sites from PECash - which I guess if you do it that way you dont have to worry about learning html - but with a weeks practice you could have done the same without the middleman.
As far as sales - my gut feeling is that you are competing against some rather large players with a site that the SEs wont touch as its a dupe of 100s of other sites and you will have to do some major advertising yourself to sell anything.

Greenguy · 2005-10-20, 10:48 AM

Yeah - that's a scam - you could go right to PE Cash & they'd make one for you like they did for me & many others:
http://store.sex-superstore.com/cgi-bin/home.cgi?6792

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SirMoby · 2005-10-20, 11:40 AM

You have to find ways of generating your own traffic to that site. I don't know if you are currently doing that or not. They may say that they're taking care of it for you but obviously not.

Do you have any type of traffic stats?

juggernaut · 2005-10-20, 12:12 PM

If you paid by CC I would contact them and try to get my money back. You can buy allot of html books for $500, shit you can even go to a local college and take a class. That's just me. Next time before you sign up for something you might want to take this little advice.
#1 search around on the company and see if there are any complaints about it IE BBB, message boards. etc
#2 sometimes people are such good salesmen that you feel you need to buy what they are selling right away. Don't! If its internet related leave the computer for a little while and really think about it, then refer to tip #1
#3 take your credit card and place it outside in your car. Having it close to you makes it to easy to pull it out and use it
#4 if a offer seems to good to be true, 99% of the time it is
#5 follow your gut, if you feel something, just 1 little thing seems fishy then start writing down questions to ask and don't pull out that card until they are all answered.
#6 if the person on the other end seems to be getting pissed that you are asking so many questions. Don't do business with them, they need your business more then you need theirs. There are plenty of places on the internet who will answer every question you have with a smile on their face till it turns blue, for $500.00
#7 if you really feel you need to spend the $500.0 contact me. My wife does cam shows and will surly give you your money's worth..
Jugg..

emmanuelle · 2005-10-20, 12:28 PM

Is it possible that PE Cash might investigate? Surely this sort of thing reflects poorly on them, even indirectly.

MrYum · 2005-10-20, 12:51 PM

Damn, I hate seeing stuff like this

Stanteau...you got screwed...no other way to say it. The site you have there is almost an exact duplicate of the one I set up and run from pecash.

Definitely contact pecash directly to let them know what's going on with the company that screwed you. And do what you can to charge that shit back on your credit card...you were HAD!

Unless they're going to pump a buttload of decent traffic through your site for you...making sales is going to take a while. And you're going to have to generate traffic to that site. As Linkster mentioned...there's a LOT of competition in selling sex toys.

ecchi · 2005-10-20, 12:58 PM

What everyone says above is true, however I expect you are stuck with you site. In that case I guess you want to make sales, in which case how many hits have you had? You are going to need thousands per day to make a little money out of this (and I mean a little money, if you want to make a reasonable profit out of this, a few thousand visitors a day won't do it, only a small fraction of 1% of the people who visit your site will actually buy anything).

I am guessing from the fact that you bought this site that you are new to this business, if so you really need to read up on ways to get surfers to visit your site. I would suggest you start by making free sites and submitting them everywhere, and also TGP posting. But do not expect this will make you money quickly, for example; make 1 free site every single day and submit it to all the major link lists, and it will still be a few months before you start making money.

One mistake you must not make is buying traffic to throw directly at this site. For every dollar you pay on traffic, expect to only get back 50c. Buying traffic (if from a reputable source) can make you a lot of money, but you have to know what you are doing and how to use it, just dumping it on the site will loose you money however good the traffic is.

Bottom line Yeah, you were ripped off when you paid for this, but if you cannot get your money back you can at least make some money out of it. But it is no free ride, and it will take work and time, say about a couple or three hours a day every day for the next few months. I suggest you start by reading through the articles on the various adult WM resource sites to learn about making free sites and TGP sites. And good luck, you made a mistake and wasted money, but there is no reason you should not turn this round and begin to makes some money. Think of it as paying for the first lesson in your education in this business, then knuckle down and make the money you lost back WITH INTEREST.

juggernaut · 2005-10-20, 01:21 PM

And hey dont let this get you down. Everyone makes mistakes. My first one cost me 5K, 2nd one lol almost 10K. 2nd one was my own doing but like everything else hind sight is 20/20. Start reading this board every day, night and free time that you have... #1 rule is don't buy anything till you start getting an idea of what it takes to make money in this biz. Sorry to hear about your bad sitro..

DonX · 2005-10-20, 02:59 PM

Yeah, I joined them a few years back when I first started and never made a dime, and I have a friend that had the same problem.

Linkster · 2005-10-20, 03:08 PM

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff143018.htm
is just one of the more recent ripoff reports on them - they date back quite a few years in reports and if you do a quick google search on bighitter and scam you will find many more

plateman · 2005-10-20, 03:50 PM

you can try adwords to your store but I did that for a long while and never really made much, sure I made google money and pe cash, but when I got done paying for clicks and there high in that field, I made really nothing, I also tried less popular keywords to certain toys or products and hardly got any clicks...

ecchi · 2005-10-20, 05:25 PM

Sorry I disagree with Plateman, avoid adwords until you have a lot more experience. They can make you a lot of money, but you need to know what you are doing. If you use them now you stand to loose a lot more money. Wait awhile, when you have more experience use them, but for now avoid paying for advertising (and as someone who makes about 25% of their living selling website advertising, I will not often say that).

plateman · 2005-10-20, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ecchi

Sorry I disagree with Plateman, avoid adwords until you have a lot more experience. They can make you a lot of money, but you need to know what you are doing. If you use them now you stand to loose a lot more money. Wait awhile, when you have more experience use them, but for now avoid paying for advertising (and as someone who makes about 25% of their living selling website advertising, I will not often say that).

yes I agree avoid them, I was giving him an option - I made a little on it and learned some too, like when is a good time to run your ad and what were good months and what KW's to stay away from.. there are ways to make one of those stores workout.. but thats a whole new game that takes time

markit · 2005-10-20, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonX

Yeah, I joined them a few years back when I first started and never made a dime, and I have a friend that had the same problem.

yes theyre a scam

Smutferret · 2005-10-20, 06:25 PM

Another thing you might want to consider...Big Hitters probably signed you up under their PECash account...This means every time you make a sale they'll get a 2.5 - 5 % cut. I don't know about you but I wouldn't want to put any more cash in their pockets.

You should re-sign up with PECash and rebuild your site. You can use the mini site frame plug-in to speed things up or maybe PECash would help you if you explained things to them.

Anyway, I hope things work out for the best.

Regards,
SF

stanteau · 2005-10-20, 07:34 PM

Well I only paid $264 so I'm not out a whole bunch but I was really lookin foward to it, a co-worker of mine said he made $2,000 a month easily but as you've all noticed that's probably a scam.

I know this sounds naive but is there any true "kick back and get paid" type deal or would that take like a 10K investment.

stanteau · 2005-10-20, 07:35 PM

And also I've had over 1,500 adviews a day

Linkster · 2005-10-20, 07:47 PM

stanteau - I assume those adviews are on their stats which are more than likely rigged

there really isnt anything in adult where you can make an investment and just sit back - unless you have enough to start a program and have someone you completely trust not to run off with your money and have a few hundred thousand laying around - otherwise its just like any other startup - loads of hours at the start - for the first year or so and then down to maybe 12 hours a day after that

stanteau · 2005-10-20, 08:06 PM

So what can I do right now to help my situation, if I become a nusiance just say but I'd really like this to work, I really banked on this.

stanteau · 2005-10-20, 08:10 PM

And also could someone PM me with points to bring up in an email to PECash?

Surfn · 2005-10-20, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stanteau

So what can I do right now to help my situation, if I become a nusiance just say but I'd really like this to work, I really banked on this.

If PE Cash files a law suit you will be out everything. If it were me I would just cut my losses and move on. There have been several good suggestions about what to do next already posted.

2005-10-20, 12:51 PM	#10
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2005-10-20, 02:59 PM	#13
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2005-10-20, 03:08 PM	#14
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2005-10-20, 03:50 PM	#15
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2005-10-20, 06:25 PM	#19
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2005-10-20, 09:10 AM	#1
stanteau Internet! Is that thing still around? Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 7	I signed up with Big Hitters, was that a mistake? A Co-worker tunred me onto Big Hitters and said he makes gangbusters off of it so I went to their site and they have a deal, $99 toy site activation, so I jumped on it along with a $165 advertising fee. My advertising kicked in yesterday (supposedly) and I added a bunch of banners and such and I still have not had one sale in almost a month. Should I wait a little longer or was this a bad business venture? Or do I simply need to do something I'm missing?

2005-10-20, 09:22 AM	#2
SirMoby Jim? I heard he's a dirty pornographer. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 2,706	I don't know anything about them about and there is no URL so I can't even take a look for you

2005-10-20, 10:06 AM	#4
Linkster NO! Im not a female - but being a dragon, I do eat them. Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sex Delta Posts: 5,084	So basically you are saying that you paid $500 to have someone insert a script on a domain to pull one of the standard sites from PECash - which I guess if you do it that way you dont have to worry about learning html - but with a weeks practice you could have done the same without the middleman. As far as sales - my gut feeling is that you are competing against some rather large players with a site that the SEs wont touch as its a dupe of 100s of other sites and you will have to do some major advertising yourself to sell anything. __________________ Pussy Chompers Porn Links NSCash

2005-10-20, 10:48 AM	#5
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,754	Yeah - that's a scam - you could go right to PE Cash & they'd make one for you like they did for me & many others: http://store.sex-superstore.com/cgi-bin/home.cgi?6792 __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2005-10-20, 11:29 AM	#6
emmanuelle 0100011101100101011001010 1101011001000000100001101 1010000110100101100011 Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,441	GET RICH QUICK Make thousands in days, while you sleep! Whatever you may have seen in the past, I guarantee you will never have come across this huge money making system anywhere before: it's 100% legal, proven and works like crazy..... Forget all the hype you may have seen on other sites. Forget all the empty promises of instant wealth you've been promised with cheap, worthless MLM's and down line programs. You are just seconds away from learning how to earn real money with your computer...Guaranteed! The information you are about to discover will change your financial future Forever!

2005-10-20, 11:40 AM	#7
SirMoby Jim? I heard he's a dirty pornographer. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 2,706	You have to find ways of generating your own traffic to that site. I don't know if you are currently doing that or not. They may say that they're taking care of it for you but obviously not. Do you have any type of traffic stats?

2005-10-20, 12:12 PM	#8
juggernaut Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Central Jersey! If I was rich and powerful I would dress as my avatar does. Posts: 1,448	If you paid by CC I would contact them and try to get my money back. You can buy allot of html books for $500, shit you can even go to a local college and take a class. That's just me. Next time before you sign up for something you might want to take this little advice. #1 search around on the company and see if there are any complaints about it IE BBB, message boards. etc #2 sometimes people are such good salesmen that you feel you need to buy what they are selling right away. Don't! If its internet related leave the computer for a little while and really think about it, then refer to tip #1 #3 take your credit card and place it outside in your car. Having it close to you makes it to easy to pull it out and use it #4 if a offer seems to good to be true, 99% of the time it is #5 follow your gut, if you feel something, just 1 little thing seems fishy then start writing down questions to ask and don't pull out that card until they are all answered. #6 if the person on the other end seems to be getting pissed that you are asking so many questions. Don't do business with them, they need your business more then you need theirs. There are plenty of places on the internet who will answer every question you have with a smile on their face till it turns blue, for $500.00 #7 if you really feel you need to spend the $500.0 contact me. My wife does cam shows and will surly give you your money's worth.. Jugg..

2005-10-20, 12:28 PM	#9
emmanuelle 0100011101100101011001010 1101011001000000100001101 1010000110100101100011 Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,441	Is it possible that PE Cash might investigate? Surely this sort of thing reflects poorly on them, even indirectly.

2005-10-20, 12:58 PM	#11
ecchi Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: About to be evicted!!!! Posts: 4,082	What everyone says above is true, however I expect you are stuck with you site. In that case I guess you want to make sales, in which case how many hits have you had? You are going to need thousands per day to make a little money out of this (and I mean a little money, if you want to make a reasonable profit out of this, a few thousand visitors a day won't do it, only a small fraction of 1% of the people who visit your site will actually buy anything). I am guessing from the fact that you bought this site that you are new to this business, if so you really need to read up on ways to get surfers to visit your site. I would suggest you start by making free sites and submitting them everywhere, and also TGP posting. But do not expect this will make you money quickly, for example; make 1 free site every single day and submit it to all the major link lists, and it will still be a few months before you start making money. One mistake you must not make is buying traffic to throw directly at this site. For every dollar you pay on traffic, expect to only get back 50c. Buying traffic (if from a reputable source) can make you a lot of money, but you have to know what you are doing and how to use it, just dumping it on the site will loose you money however good the traffic is. Bottom line Yeah, you were ripped off when you paid for this, but if you cannot get your money back you can at least make some money out of it. But it is no free ride, and it will take work and time, say about a couple or three hours a day every day for the next few months. I suggest you start by reading through the articles on the various adult WM resource sites to learn about making free sites and TGP sites. And good luck, you made a mistake and wasted money, but there is no reason you should not turn this round and begin to makes some money. Think of it as paying for the first lesson in your education in this business, then knuckle down and make the money you lost back WITH INTEREST.

2005-10-20, 01:21 PM	#12
juggernaut Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Central Jersey! If I was rich and powerful I would dress as my avatar does. Posts: 1,448	And hey dont let this get you down. Everyone makes mistakes. My first one cost me 5K, 2nd one lol almost 10K. 2nd one was my own doing but like everything else hind sight is 20/20. Start reading this board every day, night and free time that you have... #1 rule is don't buy anything till you start getting an idea of what it takes to make money in this biz. Sorry to hear about your bad sitro..

2005-10-20, 05:25 PM	#16
ecchi Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: About to be evicted!!!! Posts: 4,082	Sorry I disagree with Plateman, avoid adwords until you have a lot more experience. They can make you a lot of money, but you need to know what you are doing. If you use them now you stand to loose a lot more money. Wait awhile, when you have more experience use them, but for now avoid paying for advertising (and as someone who makes about 25% of their living selling website advertising, I will not often say that).

2005-10-20, 07:34 PM	#20
stanteau Internet! Is that thing still around? Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 7	Well I only paid $264 so I'm not out a whole bunch but I was really lookin foward to it, a co-worker of mine said he made $2,000 a month easily but as you've all noticed that's probably a scam. I know this sounds naive but is there any true "kick back and get paid" type deal or would that take like a 10K investment.

2005-10-20, 07:35 PM	#21
stanteau Internet! Is that thing still around? Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 7	And also I've had over 1,500 adviews a day

2005-10-20, 07:47 PM	#22
Linkster NO! Im not a female - but being a dragon, I do eat them. Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sex Delta Posts: 5,084	stanteau - I assume those adviews are on their stats which are more than likely rigged there really isnt anything in adult where you can make an investment and just sit back - unless you have enough to start a program and have someone you completely trust not to run off with your money and have a few hundred thousand laying around - otherwise its just like any other startup - loads of hours at the start - for the first year or so and then down to maybe 12 hours a day after that __________________ Pussy Chompers Porn Links NSCash

2005-10-20, 08:06 PM	#23
stanteau Internet! Is that thing still around? Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 7	So what can I do right now to help my situation, if I become a nusiance just say but I'd really like this to work, I really banked on this.

2005-10-20, 08:10 PM	#24
stanteau Internet! Is that thing still around? Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 7	And also could someone PM me with points to bring up in an email to PECash?