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Old 2005-11-18, 07:32 PM   #201
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Old 2005-11-18, 07:34 PM   #202
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Sigurd - dont you run risecash?
No, my good friend and partner at another project (FunPPC.com) is the owner of RiseCash.
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Old 2005-11-18, 07:51 PM   #203
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Hey! Don't blame Yahook! He's a good guy.
But he did just one mistake when he try to cooperate with RB.
PS: I'm russian too but I hope my English is good for you, isn't?
PPS: I had an speech with dude from New York last summer and he told me:"Exploy, your English is good to me". Heh, it was nicely.
And I wanna say 2 all on this board: we are Russians and we proud of this. And you'll never understand us completely cause we (West & East) are too different. But we can co-operate on all levels of our business. If you don't understand this simple thing your game will over one day.
Sorry for possible mistakes. There is a black night by my window.
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Old 2005-11-18, 08:07 PM   #204
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No, my good friend and partner at another project (FunPPC.com) is the owner of RiseCash.
Ahhh - that was it - thought I remembered something about that
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Old 2005-11-18, 10:04 PM   #206
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Damn,

I can't believe I read this entire thing.

Time to get up and stretch - lol
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Old 2005-11-18, 10:33 PM   #207
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Old 2005-11-19, 12:11 AM   #208
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My work was scripting, design and promotion in this project - I didn't know he take descriptions from other sites. I never cheat by myself and I was always teaching people do not cheat.
uh, yeah.

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Domain Name:                                 HUN-OVERFLOW.BIZ
Domain ID:                                   D7106353-BIZ
Sponsoring Registrar:                        WILD WEST DOMAINS, INC.
Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID:                440
Domain Status:                               clientDeleteProhibited
Domain Status:                               clientRenewProhibited
Domain Status:                               clientTransferProhibited
Domain Status:                               clientUpdateProhibited
Registrant ID:                               GODA-06855786
Registrant Name:                             Ihar Paliashchuk
Registrant Organization:                     Ihar Paliashchuk
Registrant Address1:                         Ostroshitskaya 23-54
Registrant City:                             Minsk
Registrant State/Province:                   BY
Registrant Postal Code:                      220125
Registrant Country:                          Belarus
Registrant Country Code:                     BY
Registrant Phone Number:                     +375.297610478
Registrant Email:                            yahook@bip.by
Administrative Contact ID:                   GODA-26855786
Administrative Contact Name:                 Ihar Paliashchuk
Administrative Contact Organization:         Ihar Paliashchuk
Administrative Contact Address1:             Ostroshitskaya 23-54
Administrative Contact City:                 Minsk
Administrative Contact State/Province:       BY
Administrative Contact Postal Code:          220125
Administrative Contact Country:              Belarus
Administrative Contact Country Code:         BY
Administrative Contact Phone Number:         +375.297610478
Administrative Contact Email:                yahook@bip.by
Billing Contact ID:                          GODA-36855786
Billing Contact Name:                        Ihar Paliashchuk
Billing Contact Organization:                Ihar Paliashchuk
Billing Contact Address1:                    Ostroshitskaya 23-54
Billing Contact City:                        Minsk
Billing Contact State/Province:              BY
Billing Contact Postal Code:                 220125
Billing Contact Country:                     Belarus
Billing Contact Country Code:                BY
Billing Contact Phone Number:                +375.297610478
Billing Contact Email:                       yahook@bip.by
Technical Contact ID:                        GODA-16855786
Technical Contact Name:                      Ihar Paliashchuk
Technical Contact Organization:              Ihar Paliashchuk
Technical Contact Address1:                  Ostroshitskaya 23-54
Technical Contact City:                      Minsk
Technical Contact State/Province:            BY
Technical Contact Postal Code:               220125
Technical Contact Country:                   Belarus
Technical Contact Country Code:              BY
Technical Contact Phone Number:              +375.297610478
Technical Contact Email:                     yahook@bip.by
Name Server:                                 NS0.HQHOST.NET
Name Server:                                 NS1.HQHOST.NET
Created by Registrar:                        WILD WEST DOMAINS, INC.
Last Updated by Registrar:                   WILD WEST DOMAINS, INC.
Domain Registration Date:                    Sun Jun 06 15:37:17 GMT 2004
Domain Expiration Date:                      Mon Jun 05 23:59:59 GMT 2006
Domain Last Updated Date:                    Sat Oct 29 19:12:13 GMT 2005
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Domain Name:                                 PERSIAN-KITTY.BIZ
Domain ID:                                   D7106358-BIZ
Sponsoring Registrar:                        WILD WEST DOMAINS, INC.
Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID:                440
Domain Status:                               clientDeleteProhibited
Domain Status:                               clientRenewProhibited
Domain Status:                               clientTransferProhibited
Domain Status:                               clientUpdateProhibited
Registrant ID:                               GODA-06855787
Registrant Name:                             Ihar Paliashchuk
Registrant Organization:                     Ihar Paliashchuk
Registrant Address1:                         Ostroshitskaya 23-54
Registrant City:                             Minsk
Registrant State/Province:                   BY
Registrant Postal Code:                      220125
Registrant Country:                          Belarus
Registrant Country Code:                     BY
Registrant Phone Number:                     +375.297610478
Registrant Email:                            yahook@bip.by
Administrative Contact ID:                   GODA-26855787
Administrative Contact Name:                 Ihar Paliashchuk
Administrative Contact Organization:         Ihar Paliashchuk
Administrative Contact Address1:             Ostroshitskaya 23-54
Administrative Contact City:                 Minsk
Administrative Contact State/Province:       BY
Administrative Contact Postal Code:          220125
Administrative Contact Country:              Belarus
Administrative Contact Country Code:         BY
Administrative Contact Phone Number:         +375.297610478
Administrative Contact Email:                yahook@bip.by
Billing Contact ID:                          GODA-36855787
Billing Contact Name:                        Ihar Paliashchuk
Billing Contact Organization:                Ihar Paliashchuk
Billing Contact Address1:                    Ostroshitskaya 23-54
Billing Contact City:                        Minsk
Billing Contact State/Province:              BY
Billing Contact Postal Code:                 220125
Billing Contact Country:                     Belarus
Billing Contact Country Code:                BY
Billing Contact Phone Number:                +375.297610478
Billing Contact Email:                       yahook@bip.by
Technical Contact ID:                        GODA-16855787
Technical Contact Name:                      Ihar Paliashchuk
Technical Contact Organization:              Ihar Paliashchuk
Technical Contact Address1:                  Ostroshitskaya 23-54
Technical Contact City:                      Minsk
Technical Contact State/Province:            BY
Technical Contact Postal Code:               220125
Technical Contact Country:                   Belarus
Technical Contact Country Code:              BY
Technical Contact Phone Number:              +375.297610478
Technical Contact Email:                     yahook@bip.by
Name Server:                                 NS0.HQHOST.NET
Name Server:                                 NS1.HQHOST.NET
Created by Registrar:                        WILD WEST DOMAINS, INC.
Last Updated by Registrar:                   WILD WEST DOMAINS, INC.
Domain Registration Date:                    Sun Jun 06 15:37:19 GMT 2004
Domain Expiration Date:                      Mon Jun 05 23:59:59 GMT 2006
Domain Last Updated Date:                    Sat Oct 29 19:12:13 GMT 2005
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Old 2005-11-19, 12:21 AM   #209
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The Exposer, there are no type-in traffic for this domains. And I don't see any problem here.

I'm really tired to answer each message in this thread. I need to make my work. We've fixed the problems and RB will never do this again because he respects me.
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Old 2005-11-19, 12:24 AM   #210
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Exposer - youve only scratched the surface

yahook - I was going to say something but i think Ill wait and let the Hun and PK speak for themselves
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Old 2005-11-19, 12:27 AM   #211
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Linkster, these domains were available for registration and I registred them long time ago. This is just domain names.

There are tons of examples where people register simular domains - http://www.linkorama.com/ for example.
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Old 2005-11-19, 12:28 AM   #212
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The plot (and the soup) thickens.

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Old 2005-11-19, 12:29 AM   #213
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I like the theory. Everyone else does it, so why not me?

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Old 2005-11-19, 12:32 AM   #214
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...There are tons of examples where people register simular domains - http://www.linkorama.com/ for example.
We don't refer to them as "people" More along the lines of "pieces of shit"
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Old 2005-11-19, 12:33 AM   #215
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I want to add that these domains were not updated for a very long time and were registred long time ago. This is just doorways. And there are no traffic there. I don't need these domains to continue.

I think if owner of resource doesn't register domain name - this is his own problem. Some guys registred domains simular to my projects, for example hq-porn-links and so on... I don't see any problem here. It was my own mistake. And actually I don't want to buy these domains if it's even available.
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Old 2005-11-19, 12:37 AM   #216
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Yahook, you may not need these domains to continue, but like everything else around you, there is a stink of shit. We find little pieces, we find little kopecs worth of turd on the ground, and I can only assume one thing:

There is a big pile of shit just out of site.

How can anyone trust your link lists if these are the sort of things you consider normal for your business?

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Old 2005-11-19, 12:41 AM   #217
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Guys, linklist owners who hide real rules are also cheaters. Actually if we try to search we can say that every man does some cheat in his life. And it's not depends of his nationality and country.
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Old 2005-11-19, 12:47 AM   #218
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You whine for nothing. There are no hidden rules.

"we reserve the right to refuse a link to anyone for any reason without explaination". We run private businesses that can choose to do whatever they do.

Trying to turn the mirror to reflect on others just makes your own choices look even worse. For me, your choices and actions cannot be easily defended, so more easy to point the finger at others.

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Old 2005-11-19, 12:51 AM   #219
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Linkster, these domains were available for registration and I registred them long time ago. This is just domain names.

There are tons of examples where people register simular domains - http://www.linkorama.com/ for example.
Registered them a long time ago for what? If you didn't plan to steal SE traffic and cheat the owners then what did you register them for?

No need to answer you wouldn't know the truth if it bit you in the ass.
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Surfn, I want to say again, these domains were available for registration and I've registred them. I don't steal any traffic.
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What about the domains sex1.com, sex2.com, sex3.com, sex4.com? They steal traffic of sex.com? I don't think so. This is just a combination of words and digits.

If you check out any popular paysite like TeensForCash and so on you will see that the simular domain names are registed. And in the 99% of the cases the owners of these domains are different people than the owners of the paysite. This is absolutely the same that in my case. If you think it's cheat, then I know some respected adult webmasters that use this technics, I will not post here the names.

Actually there are tons of articles about type in traffic. And I don't see anything illegal here.

P.S.: I've already showed the examples of cheat from the side of linklist owners. So guys please don't try to proove something for me with the examples like this one. Don't you have anything other to do than to waste everybody's time in the same thread?

There are no ideal people in the world. Every person can be cought by cheat. For example somebody can cheat his wife, I can't proove it and many other examples of cheat because I don't know your private life. But I'm sure GOD will find something

As for me - I try to make my work as more honest as possible. I respect all people, especially the people I work with.
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Old 2005-11-19, 02:06 AM   #223
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I hear excuses and pointing fingers at other people. I don't hear accepting responsiblity.

It never wastes people time when we show who they might be linking with.

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Old 2005-11-19, 02:17 AM   #224
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It never wastes people time when we show who they might be linking with.
I never cheat people I work with, and I'm not going to do it in the future. Your statement is correct only if you show us the real examples of cheat. I've agreed that to take descriptions from other sites is not good and I've removed them all (there were about 10 descriptions on two sites), I didn't know about that. You've removed hidden rules from your linklist, but some linklist owners still continue stealing of submitters traffic. What about them, why don't you discuss it?

Affiliate programs and their adverts are also the same example. Do you think the owner of afffiliate program is cheater if some of it's adverts does illegal things? I don't think so if the owner try to stop it.

I can give even more big example: what about linklists and tgp's that were listing free sites and galleries with stolen content? I remember this times... And all this guys were listed, but they were cheaters. I think you can continue my idea...

What about the cj traffic trading scripts? Why don't you talk about this? This is also cheating of surfers.

I can find tons of examples...
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The Exposer, you've registred new nickname because you are afraid of checking your own sites. And everybody can be afraid because this situation can occur with any person. And please don't try to argue against this logic.

P.S.: My main mistake was that I've released too many projects in the short time period. But do you know how much time I spent for my work? I don't think so. For the last year I have been working almost 24h each day... and now I'm not alone in my work. So I don't see anything bad that I've released all these projects.
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