Well, This Is Depressing (aka Google Analytics for SE Traffic to LOR)

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by Ramster

"Greenguy" only search is giving my #1 for you so that's good.

HOLY SHIT I'M BACK!!!! My Twitter is even back & that was gone yesterday, too!



Off to look at some live stats.....

[Greenguy]

...and there's an increase in Google hits so far today

[Toby]

[pc]

I'm waiting anxiously for any explanation of what the fuck has happend. Congratz on regaining the light spot but to be honest this , your site example just shows how heavily dependant we are on Google.

[jollyhumper]

Originally Posted by Greenguy

And yes, I have kicked myself in the ass for years for registering link-o-rama.com instead of greenguy.com - it hurts even more so now because this might not be happening if I registered it (there's a story/reason why I bought LOR if anyone really wants to hear it).

I would like to hear it.


Jolly

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by Greenguy

And yes, I have kicked myself in the ass for years for registering link-o-rama.com instead of greenguy.com - it hurts even more so now because this might not be happening if I registered it (there's a story/reason why I bought LOR if anyone really wants to hear it).

Originally Posted by jollyhumper

I would like to hear it.

When I was starting out & on a free host (angelfire) I kept getting shut down because I was a porn site. I had been talking with a guy in Wisconsin named Joe (RIP) that had his own domains & pay sites (amateurs, pissing, and unmentionable lol) as well as a hub site at noodtech.com. I asked him if I could move my free hosted site to his domain & handle all his link trades, to which he agreed. So I was up & running on noodtech.com/greenguy/

My site/page was still called Greenguy Link O'Rama & while I was out surfing & trading links, we got a trade request from a site called Kara's Link O'Rama. We emailed them, asked them to change the name, got into a HUGE fight with them & Joe's solution was to register link-o-rama.com in my name (he even made up a company name to make it look more legit: Greenguy Marketing) Thus, my 1st domain became link-o-rama.com

BTW: The Kara that was running the other site was the same person that was working with RB & Max Cash & owned/ran their flagship paysite Kara's Adult Playground. Needless to say, RB & I had a very rocky relationship, even though I promoted Max Cash & got to become very good friends with the staff over there, especially Alyssa.

PS - Domains were not cheap back then. Network Solutions charged $100/year to register one (although, you didn't have to pay right away - you had a couple weeks to try out the domain before you bought it, which made it really easy to buy a domain name that you thought might get type in traffic & give it a spin lol) Anyway, I had already become good friends with Al4a & Ampland, who had also recently been kicked off their free host (concentric.net oddly enough) & bought their 1st domains. A couple years later, Amp told me that they were on the phone talking about me buying link-o-rama.com & joked that they should by greenguy.com & then sell it to me for $102 - and WOW do I wish they had done that!

I've got a Greenguy Trademark story, too, if anyone wants to hear that

[Ramster]

That was interesting, love hearing those early days stories and how people started out.

[jollyhumper]

Originally Posted by Greenguy

PS - Domains were not cheap back then. Network Solutions charged $100/year to register one (although, you didn't have to pay right away

That was going to be my next question!

Originally Posted by Greenguy

I've got a Greenguy Trademark story, too, if anyone wants to hear that

I am, since I wasn't a part of this back in the wild 90's, I love to hear stories about it.

(Well I was for a brief time, but being shut down by freehosts for no reasons, discovering people fucked you over / did not really own what they claimed to own, resulting in angry emails, I chose to go for a bachelor in Multimedia instead.
I picked up this shit in 2011 needing to do something in my then new health-situation.

What's the moral of this short story? I DO remember Greenguy from back then So it's a strong brand.)

Jlly

[Greenguy]

The Greenguy Trademark Story

I think it was 1998 when I got a lawyer (good friend that I grew up with) and decided to trademark the word Greenguy. So he started doing some research & found out that the guy the owned greenguy.com had applied for the trademark the week before, and for the same thing I was going for (electronic magazine or something like that) However, it was not yet his & was in a status where if anyone wanted to object, they had 30 or 45 days or something to submit paperwork as to why they objected. I knew a lot of people in the biz by then, so my lawyer drafted up a blank affidavit (or something) that I had about 30 people that knew me as Greenguy sign & notarize. The trademark office had to have it in their hands by a Friday & I gave everything to my lawyer on Wednesday & he was going to send it in with some legal objection paperwork. But, instead of sending it overnight via UPS or Fed Ex, this fucking dummy sent it on Thursday via standard US Mail. About 2 weeks later, I recv'd a letter stating that my objection had not been recv'd before the deadline, and the trademark went thru

Needless to say, I never used him as my lawyer again & barely speak to him to this day.

OH! I also dropped $2k to WIPO trying to get linkorama.com which was also an adult links list that was almost EXACTLY like my site, but I got fucked on that, too:
http://www.wipo.int/amc/en/domains/d...2001-1106.html

[geirlur]

Originally Posted by pc

I'm waiting anxiously for any explanation of what the fuck has happend.

Just the old google dance

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by geirlur

Just the old google dance

What did cross my mind yesterday was when Google puts in an update, then pulls it because of some issue, puts the old data back in, then corrects the new update & puts that back online.

Does that still happen?

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by Greenguy

What did cross my mind yesterday was when Google puts in an update, then pulls it because of some issue, puts the old data back in, then corrects the new update & puts that back online.

Does that still happen?

Apparently, it does

Once again, I can't find my site in Google searching for "greenguy"

What's worse is that this is the top 10 when you search for "greenguy links"


And I was having a kinda good day....

[LeRoy]

That sucks hard!! Webmasters tools should tell you why you're getting de-listed.

[HowlingWulf]

At least you're still #1 in Bing!

[Greenguy]

A thought did cross my mind about this - and I REALLY hope & pray that this guess is correct. Google Mobilegeddon is today, where they are "...implementing another major overhaul of its mobile-search algorithm."

Now, I know my site is not mobile ready & I don't really care. I'm currently redirecting everything to my AEBN theater. So it makes sense that I would not be found in Google if you searched for me on a smart phone.

So my hope is that what we're seeing on PC's at Google is the Mobilegeddon search results, and in a couple days, it'll be back to "normal".



*Note: None of this - my redirecting or Google Mobilegeddon - effects tablets, where my site looks fine if you turn your 768x1024 screen sideways

[HowlingWulf]

Hmm I've been making all my sites responsive lately as mobile searches are quite a lot of traffic. If you need help let us know. It's not too bad.

[BNS]

there are plenty of bootstrap+responsive templates which you can easily adjust to suit your needs.

ditch the tables from html layout, it's 2015, not 1995

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by BNS

ditch the tables from html layout, it's 2015, not 1995

But I'm SOOOOOO good at making them!

[ecchi]

Tables can be responsive, I use this all the time:

<TABLE WIDTH = "100%">

Or whatever width I want.

[BNS]

then be sure to add a bunch of <font> tags too, they're awesome for seo

[Ramster]

Originally Posted by ecchi

Tables can be responsive, I use this all the time:

<TABLE WIDTH = "100%">

Or whatever width I want.

LOL, dude that is a great idea, really

[Greenguy]

With the exception of my main page (because I just redesigned it & still need to figure out the layout for 100%) my entire site is set to %'s for the tables/cells - I'm no ding-a-ling!

[BNS]

redoing a single page won't do much for the site.

just using % instead of px doesn't make a site instantly responsive.

what you need in the first place is a better site consistency, both visually and data-wise.

learn to develop with current html/css standards using frameworks and stay on top of things rather than waste time with pre-historic table layouts.

[ecchi]

Originally Posted by BNS

just using % instead of px doesn't make a site instantly responsive.

No, but it is as start, a good start. And using % for absolutely everything (not just tables) WILL make it responsive, provided you know what you are doing (but it is easy to fuck up if you don't). Using CSS is one way but (news flash) it ain't the best. CSS is not consistent across all browsers, CSS does not work on all 'phones and tablets, and CSS is large and bloated, doubles the page size and makes "on the fly" changes difficult. In short CSS is the first resort of the lazy. Nothing wrong with that - I am proudly lazy. But if you are going to use CSS you have to be aware of it's limitations. Believing it to be a superior "use it always" solution is the first stage getting shit Google ranking because their spiders see your site as "non-compatible".

And while I'm being opinionated and pissing everyone off:

Originally Posted by Greenguy

I'm no ding-a-ling!

Hmm.... I'd say refusing to allow for XP IE8 surfers makes you a ding-a-ling!

[Greenguy]

I didn't redesign my main page because of this lol - I just got sick of it

And yes, I know my html coding skills are D+ at best, I just really don't care. I gave up on mobile (non-tablet) traffic a long time ago. My site is for people with devices that can view a site at 1024 wide.