The ADULT CHECK - OFFICIAL NOTIFICATION letter

Bill · 2003-11-10, 07:09 PM

Is everyone getting this letter? I assume so. I only have a few sites in adultcheck, just enough to keep me in their system.

Sounds like the real beginning-of-the-end for avs.

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
3:15 PST, November 10, 2003

Webmaster:

Because of new credit card processing regulations, Adult Check has been forced to make some changes.

Effective as of November 15, 2003 your sites will be removed from the Adult Check System.

The sites affected by this notice will be removed from the links list on November 10, 2003.

On or about November 16, 2003, all the sites affected by this notice will be deactivated. AC Customers will no longer be able to access the site through the ID authentication process and no new sales will be processed through the apply link.

Final payments will be paid out pursuant to existing accounting policies for any sums due and payable prior to November 16, 2003.

This email is intended to serve as our official notification to you, that as of November 15, 2003, any limited use license to use any Adult Check registered service marks is revoked and all agreements and obligations of Adult Check to you are terminated.

We realize that this announcement may come as a surprise, and it is with regret that we must take the steps outlined above. Adult Check has always strived to be an industry leader in regards to current and future trends, and thus we have reevaluated our entire business model. We want you to know that these decisions were not made hastily. We believe they are necessary for the continued viability of our business. Everyone at Adult Check has appreciated the opportunity to work with you in the past and we wish you the very best of luck in your future endeavors.

For more information, you may call our information hotline at 818-464-0735.

Cleo · 2003-11-10, 07:20 PM

Yeah I got the notice too.

I haven't built any sites for them in years so it doesn't affect me, but still…

I've actually been thinking of removing the AVS category from my link list.

DangerDave · 2003-11-10, 07:21 PM

Fuckin' Thieves!

I one swift move they steal 1000's of rebills from legitimate webmasters.

Fuk you AdultCheck!

DD

garv · 2003-11-10, 07:27 PM

yeah I got that one. was dropping in to post it and seemed everyone else got it.

Glad I left them years ago

regards
garv

DangerDave · 2003-11-10, 07:28 PM

Quote:

I've actually been thinking of removing the AVS category from my link list

Same here Cleo..

DD

stuveltje · 2003-11-10, 07:29 PM

i have them but didnt use them, but i know alot of webmasters are yelling right now, and on this momemt i dont think i will make any avs till i exactly know whats is going to happen because i dont think adultcheck will be the only one

Nickname · 2003-11-10, 07:39 PM

Oh fuck, I havent used them for 2 years but what about all you guys that have 1000's of rebills with them?? those of ya that have many rebills to 1 or a few big sites I would recomend to tell the surfers what is happening and tell them to signup for thsi other avs "gold" program and they can access the same sites and more blablabla from there......

MrsHackula · 2003-11-10, 07:59 PM

Right now I'm very glad we never really messed with AVS's... but I am sincerely sorry for those of you who do and are effected by this.

5 days notice for something that may put many people out of business and into serious debt?

fetish1 · 2003-11-10, 08:02 PM

Perhaps I am just slow (No affirmations needed here!) but they are still selling memberships from their site. So if I am Joe Surfer and I sign up today, I get access to ziltch within the week or what?

Greenguy · 2003-11-10, 08:08 PM

This is a touchy subject for me - partly because I did sign a NDA & partly because I knew this backlash was gonna happen & effect my friends & webmasters here on the board.

Without going into too many details (I don't want to be sued) I had to make a very tough decision about 5 weeks ago & after speaking to the few people that I could legally speak to, I decided that, for the benefit of myself, my company & my employees, I would sign a contract with AC for a future project.

There are a lot of things that I'd like to say at this time, but I am legally bound by the NDA & thus, I have to keep my mouth shut.

Please do not hold my decision against me - even if I did say no, I was still bound by the NDA & could not have said anything here on the board.

I will go on the record & say that the decision to terminate almost everyone was a very bad one on AC's part (I, as well as others, have expressed our feelings on this subject to them already) but like I said before, after speaking to a few people & factoring in that the project would have gone forward regardless of my decision, I decided to take advantage of the opportunity.

I am very sorry that I was forced to withold this info from everyone.

DangerDave · 2003-11-10, 08:17 PM

Those that were kept in the dark may get a little more info from..

http://www.aclounge.com/viewtopic.php?t=1224

For Adultcheck! ->

http://www.dangerdave.com/fuk-you-adultcheck.wav

DD

fetish1 · 2003-11-10, 08:25 PM

Greenguy,

While I obviously can't speak for everyone, I personally think that business is business, and if there was an opportunity for you (and whomever else) to continue to profit in some manner from whatever the hell it is that Adult Check is doing, then by all means, it's a no brainer....you needed to do it.

I wish you and the rest that have ventured into a biz arrangement with AC all the best and I hope it turns into something stable for you.

Ramster · 2003-11-10, 09:29 PM

That's infuckingsane. I got the letter as well.

I don't know all the details but I'm sure (as with some of the other avs companies) they did not need to drop and screw all the webmasters. I haven't built a new avs site in over a year but I do still make sales each month from SE listings plus rebills that have built up. Thankfully it's not much money.

Ms Naughty · 2003-11-10, 09:30 PM

Bugger them. May their chook eggs hatch into emus and kick their dunny down.

I have only 3 gold sites with them. Any suggestions as to which AVS I could move them to, or what else can be done with a site that has 300 pics and stories?

Ramster · 2003-11-10, 09:45 PM

I have a couple of OneVerify sites and they have already covered the Visa changes. Check them out.

Funny thing is I just tried to check my AdultCheck stats and I can't get in.

Cleo · 2003-11-10, 10:15 PM

After reading the link that DD posted I'm left with the understanding that 100 people will be building sites that an additional 250 people will send traffic to.

Hmmm… closed system of paysites that will have to compete against all the all affiliate programs in an open market.

Either way it doesn't really affect me one way or the other. I've already moved on from the Cyberage mess and really I stopped building real AVS sites a few years ago. I can't even remember the name of the AVS service that I did build for and closed its doors some years ago.

Sucks, looks like a lot of folks are going to get hurt bad on this one.

Ramster · 2003-11-10, 10:34 PM

So what's interesting is that AdultCheck is not going anywhere. So a surfer with an ID will still have access to the system and the sites that are still in there from the new Tier 1 webmasters.

So...I guess that means they will still be rebilling those surfers and not paying it out to the original webmaster that made the sale.

Cleo · 2003-11-10, 10:44 PM

I wonder what the processors will have to say about doing re bills for what is now a different program?

For that matter what are the surfers going to think about the new program?

Must be nice to know that in a month you don't have to pay out no more…

Linkster · 2003-11-10, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cleo

I've actually been thinking of removing the AVS category from my link list.

Already done here

jennym · 2003-11-11, 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Linkster
Already done here

Same here with the last drama.

baddog · 2003-11-11, 12:09 AM

while this may be the end of AC for everyone except the chosen 350, it is for sure not the end of AVS. Far from it.

Not to be too spammy here, but SPP recently implemented a filtering system that has litterally made each pay period better than the previous.

We are welcoming all AC wemasters that did not make the cut, with open arms.

This kind of explains why AC chose to not participate in the AVS showdown that AVS Lounge is conducting right now.

His impartial study is showing we are converting 1:25 for him.

lassiter · 2003-11-11, 12:09 AM

Oh, and in case no one's noticed yet, access to the stats page for the terminated webmasters has already been removed, even though the sites won't be deactivated until the 15th. Hope everyone affected knows how much they're owed for the pay period that ends on the 15th, 'cause there's no longer any way to check.

Kush · 2003-11-11, 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by baddog
while this may be the end of AC for everyone except the chosen 350, it is for sure not the end of AVS. Far from it.

Not to be too spammy here, but SPP recently implemented a filtering system that has litterally made each pay period better than the previous.

We are welcoming all AC wemasters that did not make the cut, with open arms.

This kind of explains why AC chose to not participate in the AVS showdown that AVS Lounge is conducting right now.

His impartial study is showing we are converting 1:25 for him.

Right on Baddog.

Just in case you guys don't know, I use SPP for selling pictures of "Marissa" on my link list, and I'm consistently seeing conversions of under 1:50

And to really show that SPP is my top choic for AVS, I won't even post a ref code. So if you're looking for an alternative solution, I'd suggest putting http://www.sexpicturespass.com on your list

baddog · 2003-11-11, 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kush
Right on Baddog.

Just in case you guys don't know, I use SPP for selling pictures of "Marissa" on my link list, and I'm consistently seeing conversions of under 1:50

And to really show that SPP is my top choic for AVS, I won't even post a ref code. So if you're looking for an alternative solution, I'd suggest putting http://www.sexpicturespass.com on your list

thank you kind sir, we always like sending you checks BTW

Ramster · 2003-11-11, 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lassiter
Oh, and in case no one's noticed yet, access to the stats page for the terminated webmasters has already been removed, even though the sites won't be deactivated until the 15th. Hope everyone affected knows how much they're owed for the pay period that ends on the 15th, 'cause there's no longer any way to check.

I noticed that.

2003-11-10, 07:09 PM	#1
Bill Selling porn allows me to stay in a constant state of Bliss - ain't that a trip! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,914	The ADULT CHECK - OFFICIAL NOTIFICATION letter Is everyone getting this letter? I assume so. I only have a few sites in adultcheck, just enough to keep me in their system. Sounds like the real beginning-of-the-end for avs. FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE 3:15 PST, November 10, 2003 Webmaster: Because of new credit card processing regulations, Adult Check has been forced to make some changes. Effective as of November 15, 2003 your sites will be removed from the Adult Check System. The sites affected by this notice will be removed from the links list on November 10, 2003. On or about November 16, 2003, all the sites affected by this notice will be deactivated. AC Customers will no longer be able to access the site through the ID authentication process and no new sales will be processed through the apply link. Final payments will be paid out pursuant to existing accounting policies for any sums due and payable prior to November 16, 2003. This email is intended to serve as our official notification to you, that as of November 15, 2003, any limited use license to use any Adult Check registered service marks is revoked and all agreements and obligations of Adult Check to you are terminated. We realize that this announcement may come as a surprise, and it is with regret that we must take the steps outlined above. Adult Check has always strived to be an industry leader in regards to current and future trends, and thus we have reevaluated our entire business model. We want you to know that these decisions were not made hastily. We believe they are necessary for the continued viability of our business. Everyone at Adult Check has appreciated the opportunity to work with you in the past and we wish you the very best of luck in your future endeavors. For more information, you may call our information hotline at 818-464-0735.

2003-11-10, 07:20 PM	#2
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	Yeah I got the notice too. I haven't built any sites for them in years so it doesn't affect me, but still… I've actually been thinking of removing the AVS category from my link list. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2003-11-10, 07:21 PM	#3
DangerDave Bonged Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: BrisVegas, AUSTRALIA Posts: 4,882	Fuckin' Thieves! I one swift move they steal 1000's of rebills from legitimate webmasters. Fuk you AdultCheck! DD __________________ Old Dollars >>>> Now with over 90 Hosted Free Sites <<<< DangerDave.com.au - Adult Links to Free Porn

2003-11-10, 07:29 PM	#6
stuveltje Live and learn. And take very careful notes! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Sunny Holland Posts: 6,157	i have them but didnt use them, but i know alot of webmasters are yelling right now, and on this momemt i dont think i will make any avs till i exactly know whats is going to happen because i dont think adultcheck will be the only one __________________ Canadian Sexlinks - submit Erotica search -submit

2003-11-10, 07:39 PM	#7
Nickname Stupid risks make life worth living Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 385	Oh fuck, I havent used them for 2 years but what about all you guys that have 1000's of rebills with them?? those of ya that have many rebills to 1 or a few big sites I would recomend to tell the surfers what is happening and tell them to signup for thsi other avs "gold" program and they can access the same sites and more blablabla from there...... __________________ bexhag @ gmail.com skype: daniel.berglund1

2003-11-10, 07:27 PM	#4
garv They have the Internet on computers, now? Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Paris Posts: 145	yeah I got that one. was dropping in to post it and seemed everyone else got it. Glad I left them years ago regards garv

2003-11-10, 07:59 PM	#8
MrsHackula I'm going to the backseat of my car with the woman I love, and I won't be back for TEN MINUTES Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Oregon Posts: 86	Right now I'm very glad we never really messed with AVS's... but I am sincerely sorry for those of you who do and are effected by this. 5 days notice for something that may put many people out of business and into serious debt?

2003-11-10, 08:02 PM	#9
fetish1 Remember to rebel against the authorities, kids! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: North Dakota AKA Frozen Hell Posts: 401	Perhaps I am just slow (No affirmations needed here!) but they are still selling memberships from their site. So if I am Joe Surfer and I sign up today, I get access to ziltch within the week or what? __________________ Paul Markham Content

2003-11-10, 08:08 PM	#10
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,806	This is a touchy subject for me - partly because I did sign a NDA & partly because I knew this backlash was gonna happen & effect my friends & webmasters here on the board. Without going into too many details (I don't want to be sued) I had to make a very tough decision about 5 weeks ago & after speaking to the few people that I could legally speak to, I decided that, for the benefit of myself, my company & my employees, I would sign a contract with AC for a future project. There are a lot of things that I'd like to say at this time, but I am legally bound by the NDA & thus, I have to keep my mouth shut. Please do not hold my decision against me - even if I did say no, I was still bound by the NDA & could not have said anything here on the board. I will go on the record & say that the decision to terminate almost everyone was a very bad one on AC's part (I, as well as others, have expressed our feelings on this subject to them already) but like I said before, after speaking to a few people & factoring in that the project would have gone forward regardless of my decision, I decided to take advantage of the opportunity. I am very sorry that I was forced to withold this info from everyone. __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2003-11-10, 08:17 PM	#11
DangerDave Bonged Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: BrisVegas, AUSTRALIA Posts: 4,882	Those that were kept in the dark may get a little more info from.. http://www.aclounge.com/viewtopic.php?t=1224 For Adultcheck! -> http://www.dangerdave.com/fuk-you-adultcheck.wav DD __________________ Old Dollars >>>> Now with over 90 Hosted Free Sites <<<< DangerDave.com.au - Adult Links to Free Porn

2003-11-10, 08:25 PM	#12
fetish1 Remember to rebel against the authorities, kids! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: North Dakota AKA Frozen Hell Posts: 401	Greenguy, While I obviously can't speak for everyone, I personally think that business is business, and if there was an opportunity for you (and whomever else) to continue to profit in some manner from whatever the hell it is that Adult Check is doing, then by all means, it's a no brainer....you needed to do it. I wish you and the rest that have ventured into a biz arrangement with AC all the best and I hope it turns into something stable for you. __________________ Paul Markham Content

2003-11-10, 09:29 PM	#13
Ramster Life is good Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 11,705	That's infuckingsane. I got the letter as well. I don't know all the details but I'm sure (as with some of the other avs companies) they did not need to drop and screw all the webmasters. I haven't built a new avs site in over a year but I do still make sales each month from SE listings plus rebills that have built up. Thankfully it's not much money. __________________ Pornstar Legends \| Live Cam Model Shows \| Hungarian Girls Skype: robmurray999

2003-11-10, 09:30 PM	#14
Ms Naughty old enough to be Grandma Scrotum Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 1,408	Bugger them. May their chook eggs hatch into emus and kick their dunny down. I have only 3 gold sites with them. Any suggestions as to which AVS I could move them to, or what else can be done with a site that has 300 pics and stories? __________________ Promote Bright Desire

2003-11-10, 09:45 PM	#15
Ramster Life is good Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 11,705	I have a couple of OneVerify sites and they have already covered the Visa changes. Check them out. Funny thing is I just tried to check my AdultCheck stats and I can't get in. __________________ Pornstar Legends \| Live Cam Model Shows \| Hungarian Girls Skype: robmurray999

2003-11-10, 10:15 PM	#16
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	After reading the link that DD posted I'm left with the understanding that 100 people will be building sites that an additional 250 people will send traffic to. Hmmm… closed system of paysites that will have to compete against all the all affiliate programs in an open market. Either way it doesn't really affect me one way or the other. I've already moved on from the Cyberage mess and really I stopped building real AVS sites a few years ago. I can't even remember the name of the AVS service that I did build for and closed its doors some years ago. Sucks, looks like a lot of folks are going to get hurt bad on this one. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2003-11-10, 10:34 PM	#17
Ramster Life is good Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 11,705	So what's interesting is that AdultCheck is not going anywhere. So a surfer with an ID will still have access to the system and the sites that are still in there from the new Tier 1 webmasters. So...I guess that means they will still be rebilling those surfers and not paying it out to the original webmaster that made the sale. __________________ Pornstar Legends \| Live Cam Model Shows \| Hungarian Girls Skype: robmurray999

2003-11-10, 10:44 PM	#18
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	I wonder what the processors will have to say about doing re bills for what is now a different program? For that matter what are the surfers going to think about the new program? Must be nice to know that in a month you don't have to pay out no more… __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2003-11-11, 12:09 AM	#21
baddog Kids are great, Appu. You can teach them to hate the things you hate and they practically raise themselves now-a-days, you know, with the internet and all Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Beach, So Cal Posts: 196	while this may be the end of AC for everyone except the chosen 350, it is for sure not the end of AVS. Far from it. Not to be too spammy here, but SPP recently implemented a filtering system that has litterally made each pay period better than the previous. We are welcoming all AC wemasters that did not make the cut, with open arms. This kind of explains why AC chose to not participate in the AVS showdown that AVS Lounge is conducting right now. His impartial study is showing we are converting 1:25 for him. __________________

2003-11-11, 12:09 AM	#22
lassiter I'm normally not a praying man, but if you're up there, please save me Superman! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 473	Oh, and in case no one's noticed yet, access to the stats page for the terminated webmasters has already been removed, even though the sites won't be deactivated until the 15th. Hope everyone affected knows how much they're owed for the pay period that ends on the 15th, 'cause there's no longer any way to check.