Link List HTML files

NY Jester · 2009-07-30, 02:04 AM

I know this has been bought up before, but I dont think its ever been carved in stone, but what is the consensus of HTML files being in the same directory. I prefer that a site be submitted and the site be in the same directory. I dont mind thumbnails and gallery images being pulled from an image folder as long as its on the same domain.

But I am getting so many submits with this format:

http://www.domain1.com/freesite/keyword/ linked to
http://www.domain1.com/freesite/main.html

Am I wrong to not be liking that? LOL I mean its obviously from an auto submitter and the ones that are blatant I reject right away. Im open for suggestions, discussion, rants raves, etc.

Maj. Stress · 2009-07-30, 02:41 AM

I don't list sites like that either. Aside from not liking a page submitted to me instead of a site, it cuts down on review time since "most" sites like that are garbage to begin with.

gnarpen · 2009-07-30, 03:59 AM

As a newbie submitter this is things i want to know BEFORE i start submitting,
is this ok? www.maindomain.com/sortingfolder/site with all components/index.html
images or thumbs may be in folders within the site folder

ex. http://www.amazingcracks.com/softcra...ion/index.html

Greenguy · 2009-07-30, 06:40 AM

I don't mind it because I know I often use images/graphics that are stored in an existing directory.

I'm just happy to see everything on the same domain

bluebrit · 2009-07-30, 07:17 AM

I agree with Greenie's comment. I have done the same in the past but I do pay more attention when I see submitters doing it that I don't know. For trusted submitters I have no problem with it at all.

Cleo · 2009-07-30, 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenie

I don't mind it because I know I often use images/graphics that are stored in an existing directory.

I'm just happy to see everything on the same domain

Same here.

virgohippy · 2009-07-30, 12:30 PM

I build my freesites like this, except the main page is an index file.

My thinking is the main page is the most important page for a freesite, it's what defines the very nature of freesite. The warning page is just that, a warning statement that points to the main page.

Most times I build a freesite I'll build only one warning page and submit it to the top traffic sending LL, my primary group, and only months later I might build a second warning page for a secondary group along with some other unique element(s) on the page.

With this kind of dir structure I can minimize or even eliminate content duplication, and I might actually build a second or third warning page. Otherwise, I won't bother past the first because I might as well just build a whole 'nother site.

I'd rather not be slapped with duplication penalties, and this is just as true for my warning pages as my main/gallery pages.

NY Jester · 2009-07-30, 12:53 PM

I know a lot of auto submitters namely Chameleon build mirrors this way. What do you do when its obviously an auto submitter? When your site is lumped in with dead or Link List that dont use the same rules as your own? Namely blind reciprocal or what I like to call keyword stuffed reciprocals?

virgohippy · 2009-07-30, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NY Jester

I know a lot of auto submitters namely Chameleon build mirrors this way. What do you do when its obviously an auto submitter? When your site is lumped in with dead or Link List that dont use the same rules as your own? Namely blind reciprocal or what I like to call keyword stuffed reciprocals?

If it's obviously an auto-submitter, blacklist 'em.

In regards to dir structure or most other design/build patterns, these things can be changed with a small update/replacement of software anyway.

My problem with auto-submitters is that they generally have a very low attention to details (broken images, dead LLs, etc.), they all to often have multiple personalities, and they have no problems violating clearly stated rules.

I think I remember a couple of people who said they use auto-submit software to manage their tables, but they always check their work before they submit by hand.

Useless · 2009-07-30, 01:30 PM

I realize that I'm not the most experienced reviewer here, or the most popular, or anywhere near successful at this game, but I do know a thing or two about killing a link list. Boy, do I!

Submitters don't kill a link list; rules do. If a surfer would like the pages being submitted, regardless of flow and structure, list them. I don't care if every other recip in the table reads "Porn". It means nothing to me. In fact, if it wasn't for the amazingly strong backlash that the other link lists who've done that have received, I would be demanding that style reciprocal link too. (It seems to have worked better for them than rejecting it has for everyone else.) I do, however, get really annoyed by being grouped with unknown/semi-dead link lists. (Look at Alexa, you lazy fucks!

)

I don't care about site structure. Never even pay attention to it.

I don't know if someone is auto-submitting, so I don't lose sleep over it.

What I do like are attractive sites with good content that is hosted by the submitter. I don't care about private WHOIS anymore or anything like that. I simply want quality links that my surfers will enjoy.

Greenguy · 2009-07-30, 01:34 PM

Kit Lover

MrMaryLou · 2009-07-30, 01:45 PM

No Beanie Cup for you today Comrade Useless

JustRobert · 2009-07-30, 02:05 PM

I agree with Greenie's comments as well. I have used this structure before and will do so in the future, but most of them are like Virgohippy stated.

Recently I have been making a complete new site (new meta titles and descriptions) for the mirror or two that I do because I do not have storage issues.

NY Jester · 2009-07-30, 02:33 PM

I too have created all new sites for my mirrors. New meta new text (or at least changed) and on completely different domains.

I guess the biggest issue I have is the dead list grouping. Im in no way saying I have the biggest best or anything of the sort, far from it. But I hate opening a site and seeing its clumped with 5-8 shitty or dead lists. As far as structure goes. I let many of the ones with directory structure like posted above in as long as they are quality and they are submitting me with live sites.

hashbury · 2009-07-30, 02:37 PM

I accept them with that directory structure. I have even submitted them like that. I didnt really think this was a big issue. As long as the site is a quality site it should be listed in my opinion. I can definitely understand about the dead link list thing |doh|
When i was on a shared server i never wanted to duplicate the content and galleries, do to bandwidth restrictions.
I had a bunch of recip directorys made for me by a friend with cham submitter a while ago, and i use those recips for my mirrors. And i usally use the main site index for the bigger linklist. I used to only make one site on one directory, but fuck you cant make a sale now without having multiple mirrors.
I will be going back to one site one directory and only submitting to the people i trust, but only because its too hard to keep up with dead list, keyword stuffed recips, and the time it takes to submit is horrendous.

Tommy · 2009-08-10, 11:46 PM

No offense but I really think that trying to tell people what directory structure to use is .... fucked up

2009-07-30, 02:04 AM	#1
NY Jester ICQ:147079406 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: RockMEHardplace Posts: 2,996	Link List HTML files I know this has been bought up before, but I dont think its ever been carved in stone, but what is the consensus of HTML files being in the same directory. I prefer that a site be submitted and the site be in the same directory. I dont mind thumbnails and gallery images being pulled from an image folder as long as its on the same domain. But I am getting so many submits with this format: http://www.domain1.com/freesite/keyword/ linked to http://www.domain1.com/freesite/main.html Am I wrong to not be liking that? LOL I mean its obviously from an auto submitter and the ones that are blatant I reject right away. Im open for suggestions, discussion, rants raves, etc. __________________ The Sexy Side of Porn

2009-07-30, 06:40 AM	#4
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,788	I don't mind it because I know I often use images/graphics that are stored in an existing directory. I'm just happy to see everything on the same domain __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2009-07-30, 12:30 PM	#7
virgohippy Madness is like gravity. All it takes is a little... push. Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: California Posts: 1,679	I build my freesites like this, except the main page is an index file. My thinking is the main page is the most important page for a freesite, it's what defines the very nature of freesite. The warning page is just that, a warning statement that points to the main page. Most times I build a freesite I'll build only one warning page and submit it to the top traffic sending LL, my primary group, and only months later I might build a second warning page for a secondary group along with some other unique element(s) on the page. With this kind of dir structure I can minimize or even eliminate content duplication, and I might actually build a second or third warning page. Otherwise, I won't bother past the first because I might as well just build a whole 'nother site. I'd rather not be slapped with duplication penalties, and this is just as true for my warning pages as my main/gallery pages. __________________ ~Warm and Fuzzy.

2009-07-30, 12:53 PM	#8
NY Jester ICQ:147079406 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: RockMEHardplace Posts: 2,996	I know a lot of auto submitters namely Chameleon build mirrors this way. What do you do when its obviously an auto submitter? When your site is lumped in with dead or Link List that dont use the same rules as your own? Namely blind reciprocal or what I like to call keyword stuffed reciprocals? __________________ The Sexy Side of Porn

2009-07-30, 01:30 PM	#10
Useless Certified Nice Person Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Dirty Undies, NY Posts: 11,268	I realize that I'm not the most experienced reviewer here, or the most popular, or anywhere near successful at this game, but I do know a thing or two about killing a link list. Boy, do I! Submitters don't kill a link list; rules do. If a surfer would like the pages being submitted, regardless of flow and structure, list them. I don't care if every other recip in the table reads "Porn". It means nothing to me. In fact, if it wasn't for the amazingly strong backlash that the other link lists who've done that have received, I would be demanding that style reciprocal link too. (It seems to have worked better for them than rejecting it has for everyone else.) I do, however, get really annoyed by being grouped with unknown/semi-dead link lists. (Look at Alexa, you lazy fucks! ) I don't care about site structure. Never even pay attention to it. I don't know if someone is auto-submitting, so I don't lose sleep over it. What I do like are attractive sites with good content that is hosted by the submitter. I don't care about private WHOIS anymore or anything like that. I simply want quality links that my surfers will enjoy. __________________ Click here to purchase a bridge I'm selling.

2009-07-30, 02:41 AM	#2
Maj. Stress Progress rarely comes in buckets, it normally comes in teaspoons Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Dark Side Of Naboo Posts: 1,289	I don't list sites like that either. Aside from not liking a page submitted to me instead of a site, it cuts down on review time since "most" sites like that are garbage to begin with.

2009-07-30, 03:59 AM	#3
gnarpen Well you know boys, a nuclear reactor is a lot like women. You just have to read the manual and press the right button Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Sweden Posts: 153	As a newbie submitter this is things i want to know BEFORE i start submitting, is this ok? www.maindomain.com/sortingfolder/site with all components/index.html images or thumbs may be in folders within the site folder ex. http://www.amazingcracks.com/softcra...ion/index.html

2009-07-30, 07:17 AM	#5
bluebrit Along for the ride and loving it. Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 1,873	I agree with Greenie's comment. I have done the same in the past but I do pay more attention when I see submitters doing it that I don't know. For trusted submitters I have no problem with it at all.

2009-07-30, 01:34 PM	#11
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,788	Kit Lover __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2009-07-30, 01:45 PM	#12
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2009-07-30, 02:05 PM	#13
JustRobert Bow Ties Are Cool Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: California Posts: 9,400	I agree with Greenie's comments as well. I have used this structure before and will do so in the future, but most of them are like Virgohippy stated. Recently I have been making a complete new site (new meta titles and descriptions) for the mirror or two that I do because I do not have storage issues. __________________ Submit Your Galleries To The Porn Luv Network!

2009-07-30, 02:33 PM	#14
NY Jester ICQ:147079406 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: RockMEHardplace Posts: 2,996	I too have created all new sites for my mirrors. New meta new text (or at least changed) and on completely different domains. I guess the biggest issue I have is the dead list grouping. Im in no way saying I have the biggest best or anything of the sort, far from it. But I hate opening a site and seeing its clumped with 5-8 shitty or dead lists. As far as structure goes. I let many of the ones with directory structure like posted above in as long as they are quality and they are submitting me with live sites. __________________ The Sexy Side of Porn

2009-07-30, 02:37 PM	#15
hashbury My name is hashbury not assburry Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Tampa Posts: 1,125	I accept them with that directory structure. I have even submitted them like that. I didnt really think this was a big issue. As long as the site is a quality site it should be listed in my opinion. I can definitely understand about the dead link list thing \|doh\| When i was on a shared server i never wanted to duplicate the content and galleries, do to bandwidth restrictions. I had a bunch of recip directorys made for me by a friend with cham submitter a while ago, and i use those recips for my mirrors. And i usally use the main site index for the bigger linklist. I used to only make one site on one directory, but fuck you cant make a sale now without having multiple mirrors. I will be going back to one site one directory and only submitting to the people i trust, but only because its too hard to keep up with dead list, keyword stuffed recips, and the time it takes to submit is horrendous. __________________ Sig Goes Here!

2009-08-10, 11:46 PM	#16
Tommy NYC Boy That Moved To The Island Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,940	No offense but I really think that trying to tell people what directory structure to use is .... fucked up __________________ Accepting New partners