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2008-08-19, 10:50 PM | #1 |
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Private Whois
I noticed that the rules for LOR's regular submitters don't allow for private whois, how common is this?
I have private whois on my main domain as I really don't want anyone at my day job to know what I'm doing on my own time, and more importantly they'd probably fire me if they found out I had porn sites. They're very conservative asswipes, but they pay well. You do what you gotta do to pay the bills... Anyway, am I going to have problems getting sites listed with a private whois? Thanks! |
2008-08-19, 11:19 PM | #2 |
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Yes, you will. It is a price you are going to pay in this business. I am in the same boat, too. I follow all the laws, I never combine my two environments, and give them no reason to fire me. Fortunately my name is somewhat common, so I can always try to deny it is me. (Yeah, works until they see the address... )
What I look at is my private life is just that. There is no cross mention of what I do. I am not out chasing after men or getting arrested. I run a home-based marketing business, plain and simple. I have enough non-adult domains that get updated to offer them a taste if they really press me. I have had porn sites and a top level domain for about 8 years now -- on several different jobs. Some have found out and just said as long as I behave I am fine. It really isn't that bad -- about like having tattoos, I guess.
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2008-08-20, 02:08 PM | #3 |
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Hi Guys, the private whois is fine with me if you'd like to submit to my lists.
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2008-08-20, 02:33 PM | #4 |
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i use some private whois on domains i dont use it for submitting to linksites and all, private whois isnt a problem...as long you dont use the domain for submitting to linksites.
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2008-08-20, 08:44 PM | #5 |
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Hmm... not sure yet how I'm going to get around this problem. Maybe I could register a domain in my wife's maiden name.
Can anyone shed some light as to why there's an issue with having a private whois? Even if the whois were public, the contact info could be bogus. |
2008-08-20, 10:46 PM | #6 |
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you know.. it is funny. I have not lost any sleep over having the private whois removed. It will save me money in the long run. If I am going to run a risk over being fired for something done completely within the law, then there had better be a line ahead of me for those who come into work drunk, high, or both. I do not know of anywhere that it is legal to drive under the influence, yet I have coworkers who do it daily.
Most outside this industry don't know enough or care enough to go digging. You pretty much have to know the domain is there in most cases to find the owners -- especially for the casual users. Is it worth the stress over it? Heck no. Quietly register it.. work with it on your personal time and ignore it while you are on the boss' dime. As to the info being bogus... get caught and it is grounds for blacklisting. You can thank all the spammers and such for this, btw. The only time I came close to crossing the boundary on this current job -- we had an issue with employees using company equipment to go looking at porn. Silly fools.. if they had asked, I would have given them links to safe stuff.. but nooooo. They had to go grab the crappy stuff that puts virus' and spyware and other garbage on the computers. Almost killed 2 computers -- repair bill came to over $500 between them. I did have to give the Field Operations Director a fast lesson in how to use parental controls.. and made sure I stumbled when asked to provide a URL. Yeah, right.. me.. a 10 year vet of this business. I could not think of a single URL except the old whitehouse.com one - and that is no longer a porn site. Like Ms. Straight-and-narrow-nose-to-the-grindstone Child Support worker would know what a porn site is ... right.. Point is.. the only person this is going to impact is you. It is no more relevant to the boss than the color or persuasion of your underwear. As long as you are breaking no rules or laws, it is also none of his danged business.
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2008-08-21, 01:52 AM | #7 |
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I am fine with a private whois as long as the owner does not run any scams.
There are various reasons why people use a private whois as many countries do not allow porn to be published on the internet. Some countries crack down on whois info and blacklist adult webmasters or people who have voiced concerns over political topics such as human rights on websites, etc. Two years back the government of a Latin American country approached me about an escort directory I own. They were offended that I listed prostitution related sites from their country and asked me to remove them. I denied their request. They said they would try to investigate my identity and blacklist me. |
2008-08-21, 02:18 AM | #8 |
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I dont care for private whois. If i had a new submitter that used a private whois i would reject it. But If the person was a respected member of this board, or if i knew them well, There would be no problem listing a private whois.
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2008-08-21, 07:25 AM | #9 |
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Thanks all for the advice/info.
I've got a few sites built and ready to submit, but I need to think this over a bit before deciding how to proceed. Pagan, you're right, I doubt anyone at my office has the knowledge or desire to figure out whois info. |
2008-08-21, 09:06 PM | #10 |
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Some of mine are private - as that was free with the domain at the time. Not paying for that though.
Personally I don't care if it is public or private - as long as your sites are nice, virus free and stay that way. |
2008-08-21, 09:36 PM | #11 |
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Even though I had been submitting to pretty much the same pool of sites for over 8 years, when I went private on the whois, I started getting rejects. Some don't care, others do. That was when I started thinking -- why do I need to hide? I have never cheated, spammed, removed a link, or redirected a site, and I don't have any intentions of doing so. I like my clean porn.
If it is not legal to do a porn site from your local county/state/country, then you are breaking the local laws. Here in the rural areas of Texas, we don't have adult stores, and alcohol is restricted. My local cops do know what I do, and have absolutely no issue with it because I am not breaking any laws at all. Who do you think they turned to when they wanted to build their own website? (ah, small town life!) Maybe I don't worry as much because I live in the US and my adult domain is hosted in Canada! Truthfully - it is a lot of worry over nothing.
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2008-08-21, 10:04 PM | #12 |
What can I do - I was born this way LOL
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if your a known submitter of mine or other friends LL then ok
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2008-08-22, 04:26 AM | #13 |
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... some countries have ancient laws and morals. Why deny those people the rights of freedom of speech and expressions? It's like telling the people in Tibet or Myanmar not to fight for their human rights because demonstrating is against local laws.
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2008-08-22, 09:06 AM | #14 |
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I'm ok with a private whois
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2008-08-22, 08:29 PM | #15 |
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Thanks for all the advice guys.
After thinking it over, I came up with a solution that I'm comfortable with: 1) I went to the post office and got a p.o. box for my address. 2) For registrant info, I changed my first name to my middle name. The info is still valid and real, but it also gives me plausible deniability. Honestly I doubt anyone will ever look it up, but you never know... |
2008-08-22, 08:31 PM | #16 |
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faxxaff... not every country recognizes these "freedoms" that we Americans take for granted. I also disagree with the restrictions especially in a universe that has no borders. Until local laws are changed, I cannot encourage someone to endanger themselves or their families over a few lousy dollars. Can you?
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2008-08-22, 11:02 PM | #17 | |
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2008-08-23, 04:59 AM | #18 |
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I guess times change. I remember coming here with the proxies on my domain.
Rejected everywhere and it sucked.
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2008-08-23, 05:19 AM | #19 |
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Thats all bullshit
I bet 99,9% people that are not in the biz dont't even know what whois is, or how to check it. And even if they knew how the hell would they check trizilions of adult biz domains? I've never heard of anyone getting fired, victimized or whatever |
2008-08-23, 11:18 AM | #20 | |
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There has been a war raging between several competing porn producers and webmasters in Asia over the past years with several of them being jailed and fined for running websites. Or look at this Filipino webmaster who got arrested for running a porn board http://pinoyambisyoso.com/blogs/boyb...bastos-nga-ba/ He got busted because he did not have a private whois. Basically, every competitor or "good" friend may set you up if they want to get you into trouble or have you fired, divorced or whatsoever. Sometimes it is just enough to spread the word about your domains to ruin one's reputation inside a conservative community. Last edited by faxxaff; 2008-08-23 at 11:27 AM.. |
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2008-08-23, 11:34 AM | #21 | |
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That's not true at all. He was arrested because he was running a site that local authorities deemed as:
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Also there is nothing analogous about running a porn business and fighting for freedom in Tibet and Myanmar as you asserted earlier. It's an insult to those people to compare their struggles with that of some poor bastard who wants to use private WHOIS.
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"Sen. Loren Legarda said “the website boybastos.com provides Internet users, including minors, free and unrestricted access to the largest online accumulation of “extremely” hardcore pornographic materials of Filipino women and girls." And you think its wrong he got arrested?? |
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The forum had a registration form in place, where users had to confirm to be of legal age. |
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2008-08-23, 12:10 PM | #24 |
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I want to bring up very important point. The purpose of private WHOIS is NOT to protect the identity of someone running an illegal site.
Even if that Filipino webmaster had used private WHOIS, authorities would have still been able get his real information from his host or by contacting his domain registrar.
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But I agree, of course it should not be used for anything illegal. I do know that private registrars do hand out info in case of fraud, copyright and trademark issues and when they see a danger of being involved in legal claims. |
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