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Old 2007-08-04, 09:33 PM   #1
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Thumbs up Rate my first free site

I could really use everyone's perspective here. My free site is ..
http://www.beastor.com/free

I am currently wondering if not having the "main page" is really going to hurt me. As you noticed, I am actually promoting stories so, I may already be dead in the water and just not know it yet.

I have noticed that most of the links lists only do sites with images. Is anyone actually going to allow me to follow the free site model with stories. I am actually doing a site for women but because it is mostly erotic stories at this point, 70% of my "women" are really men so, they will bounce around looking for pics.

Thanks in advance for your insight
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Old 2007-08-04, 09:53 PM   #2
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1. There are lots of sites that list story sites, so don't worry about that.
2. Many sites have a minimum of stories. I see some that take 4 or 5 stories, others (like greenguy) have a minimum of about 10.

I do some story freesites myself, using standard format and 10 stories. You can get listed on some sites using less stories, but higher listings and more listing from using 10. (just divide your stories in to more parts leaving each part a little over 500 words and you should be fine)

The site itself i found somewhat confusing. I am pretty tired so probably not thinking clearly, but i couldn't tell what link was doing what on the bottom of your story page. I also didn't see any ads except for your main page, so i'm assuming you must have written the stories or own them.

Maybe throw on a couple ads, change the main page text to a smaller size that easier to read, do 10 smaller stories or story sections, make the navigation easier to follow.

I think those things and a little design work will get you listed most places you submit.

I am not a great freesite builder, but heres one i did a while back as an example. It has 6 stories, as it was before there were story minimums.

http://www.sex-story-sites.com/frees...ntrol/twisted/

Hope some of this helps you out.

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Old 2007-08-04, 10:16 PM   #3
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That's perfect. Thanks Mate. I just went with two stories as da rules state you need 2 galleries so ... I used 2 stories instead.

You are right about the links on the bottom as well. I have read more here now that I have found the newb section and see the errors of my ways

I wil have a few ads made. I can see the benefits of the second page now as well Thanks for the demo
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Old 2007-08-04, 10:24 PM   #4
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No problem.

The newbie section is great for info, you can also search for stuff. Overall for your first site is was pretty good.

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Old 2007-08-05, 01:05 PM   #5
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You could have placed more receips (I do 9) in the index page. Just my thinking though and this is what I do.
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Old 2007-08-05, 08:33 PM   #6
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Those recips were just a test. I have found that sometimes, the recips just destroy my tables so in that case. i just turn them into jpgs. I am wondering if there is a rule against that lol

Does anyone have a link to the "official" rules concerning free sites with stories?
I have read a few rules pages conserning site with images but it will be a month or so before I tackle that
I figure that in less than 24 hours, I will have a whole new free site with 10 stories and a main page for everyone to comment on

Thanks for your time and comments
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Old 2007-08-05, 08:55 PM   #7
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If you would turn them into jpgs probably you won't get listed on freesites and the main purpose is recip is backlink thing. sites use "free porn" or such words in recip and If you don't use text, you may have some problem in getting listed.

Plus, why you don't use Dreamweaver for making the site? I bet the tables wont' destroy
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Old 2007-08-06, 02:22 AM   #8
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It is all good my friend, if you actually look at the code for adult-list in my free site, you will see that the return link is identical to the one provided by adult-list. It was a quick fix to a problem.
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Old 2007-08-06, 01:18 PM   #9
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Ok, here is the new version. I hope I am a bit closer to correct

http://www.beastor.com/f/index.html
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Old 2007-08-06, 04:35 PM   #10
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Your domain name is atrocious. It doesn't exactly scream erotica. All I envision is sex with animals.

The aesthetic of the free site is straight out of the 90s. It's seem tossed together and the color choice is odd. White text on lilac doesn't work. Use a darker text color, but not red. The red text is even worse.

I too don't like that you've chosen to make Adult-List's recip into a pic. It had two links in it and now you've given it one. If it was somehow destroying your table, you could have figured out why quicker than screen capping it.

The two banners in succession after your recip table looks crappy. Separate them with your over-sized warning text.

There is a problem with your For the Girls links. You may want to find out why. Click one of your CCbill links when you have the time.

Why is the enter link in quotes? Whom are you quoting?

Your sponsor links open in new windows. They shouldn't.

Your 2257 statement isn't worth piss. You may as well toss it. I don't think text requires such a statement anyway.

Your story text is center aligned. Tell me, have you ever read a book in which the text is centered? Why do you suppose that is?

Those thumbs on each story page are blind-linked to your poorly named story site.
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Old 2007-08-06, 05:03 PM   #11
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Your domain name is atrocious. It doesn't exactly scream erotica. All I envision is sex with animals.
LOL! UW's right. My first thought was exactly the same.

The design of the site is very disjointed. It looks like bits and pieces thrown together with no overall plan.
If you look at Old Brad's story site you can see the difference betwen his planned design and your more chaotic design.
Also text recips like Old Brads can be incorporated into your design more easily than button recips.
There's a hell of a lot to learn when you first start out. Keep trying, keep building and don't give up.
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Old 2007-08-06, 09:14 PM   #12
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Beastor, you could check greenguys site for rules. If you build for his site, you should get listed most places.

I like to use text links because they tend to fit and look better. Most sites have just 1 category recip for stories, but adult-list has a couple story options so be careful.

Site looks better. Maybe do some meta tag work, possibly add a 3rd advertisement to pages with only two.

Instead of just the main sites banner at the top, possibly a "for more stories try beastors" link. The top banner doesn't have any additional text on it and almost looks like just a title image and not a banner.

Maybe peruse the newbie forum a little bit, check out some info on building freesites.

Your off to a good start though, so keep it up.

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Old 2007-08-06, 09:15 PM   #13
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Your domain name is atrocious. It doesn't exactly scream erotica. All I envision is sex with animals.
I am actually looking for a cartoon involving a wolf in sheeps clothing doing the whole herd of sheep lmao vbg
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The aesthetic of the free site is straight out of the 90s. It's seem tossed together and the color choice is odd. White text on lilac doesn't work. Use a darker text color, but not red. The red text is even worse.
My female art major consultant used the words "arty and classy".
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I too don't like that you've chosen to make Adult-List's recip into a pic. It had two links in it and now you've given it one. If it was somehow destroying your table, you could have figured out why quicker than screen capping it.
All fixed. I still am not completely sure what the problem was but i fixed it.
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The two banners in succession after your recip table looks crappy. Separate them with your over-sized warning text.
Done
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There is a problem with your For the Girls links. You may want to find out why. Click one of your CCbill links when you have the time.
I mailed them again. Each time they assure me that everything is correct.
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Why is the enter link in quotes? Whom are you quoting?
You got me there lol. All fixed
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Your sponsor links open in new windows. They shouldn't.
All fixed. Back to the official button code
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Your 2257 statement isn't worth piss. You may as well toss it. I don't think text requires such a statement anyway.
That was amusement lol
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Your story text is center aligned. Tell me, have you ever read a book in which the text is centered? Why do you suppose that is?
It was 4am. That is fixed as well
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Those thumbs on each story page are blind-linked to your poorly named story site.
This is a trial run and I am still learning. I do still need a bit of traffic for other projects.
Once I have a site that most lists will accept then it will probably get a different domain name like ...
Eroticstoriesthatblowsocksoff.com vbg or ..
Itypeandtheypurr.com/eroticstories/theylove/toread

Sorry for joking here but I knew I was going to take a pounding with beastor

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Old 2007-08-07, 02:28 AM   #14
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If you would turn them into jpgs probably you won't get listed on freesites and the main purpose is recip is backlink thing. sites use "free porn" or such words in recip and If you don't use text, you may have some problem in getting listed.

Plus, why you don't use Dreamweaver for making the site? I bet the tables wont' destroy
Sure it won't distroy the table - but it will highlight all the html errors in many of the recip tables (font not closed properly comes to mind on at least 4 LLs that I submit to. It's a quick fix but jez

And yes, I love dreamweaver! It's as critical to what I do as Fireworks, Photoshop and Sony Vegas.
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Beastor, in the last hour I've only just got back from being away for a couple of weeks. Who did you email about the FTG links?

I can't see any on the free site to check them.
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Old 2007-08-07, 04:35 PM   #16
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Beastor, in the last hour I've only just got back from being away for a couple of weeks. Who did you email about the FTG links?

I can't see any on the free site to check them.
The line of code I used is from PurpleDollars.
It is "<a href="http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clicks.cgi?CA=924527-0000&PA=1547580"> <img alt="finding good porn" src="http://www.beastor.com/f/500findinggoodporn.jpg"> </a>"

It results in this ...
There seems to be an error in processing your request. The information below will help in determining the cause of the error. If you are sure you have done everything correctly and this error persists, please contact clientsupport@ccbill.com for further assistance.
Partner account 1547580 has been suspended
I mailed ccbill last because all the links in my records in their affiliate part actually point to spookycash. All of them including FTG.

I can't find their reply right now so it must be in my other mail account.

I am thinking that when I get to beastordollars. It may not be with ccbill vbg

I did read this a few times
http://www.4women.grandmascrotum.com..._for_women.htm

The dozen or so women that convinced me that I could write and that I did want to do a site for them, agree with you completely

Thanks for the list on msnaughty. I suspect that my problem here with this free site is that I am too worried about the rules. I will define the crowd I am after, decide what I want to pitch to them. Then worry about the rest

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Old 2007-08-08, 07:36 AM   #17
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Beastor that's a bit of a worry that your links are pointing to Spookycash. I'm going to look into this a bit further. At this stage the best suggestion I have is to just sign up again which will give you a new affiliate number.
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