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swedguy 2005-01-21 11:17 AM

What would you call this?
 
1. whois info shows an address in the US
2. Hosted at a known Russian host
3. His/her english shows that he/she is a foreigner
4. Submit IP is from the US, BUT it belongs to a well known adult host
5. Sites are made to get accepted everywhere - basically no ads and lots of content

What would you call that as?

Cleo 2005-01-21 11:27 AM

A redirect waiting to happen.

I would also called that a banned person.

Greenguy 2005-01-21 11:31 AM

Yup - that's a blacklisting waiting to happen.

swedguy 2005-01-21 12:16 PM

It looked like a redirect just waiting to happen. I just haven't had it happen to me.... yet, so just wanted to get it confirmed. Thanks :)

Hmm, now when I searched some more I found 3 more guys submitting through the same adult hosting company |angry|

swedguy 2005-01-24 09:30 AM

After even closer review, I found 8 people that submitted through proxies set up at 2 different hosting companies. I figured I'd ask them why they needed to do that.

1 replied back and said he was Russian and people didn't accept his sites because he submitted from Russia, so he set up a US proxy. The address in his whois was his american aunt.
2 that usually submit like clockwork, has stoppped submitting.
The rest I haven't heard anything from.

|pink |pink

Cleo 2005-01-24 09:33 AM

So how about a list of domains and a list of IPs?

swedguy 2005-01-24 09:54 AM

Since they're not confirmed cheaters, but a lot of odd behavior, I'm not sure I can post it. GG or Jim, can I post it?

Greenguy 2005-01-24 09:58 AM

I'd say in this case, yes, post away - only because this is the info that a lot of Link List owners look for.

swedguy 2005-01-24 10:20 AM

Alright, here they are:

Name: agrafia
Email: webmaster@agrafia.com
Domain(s): agrafia.com
Submit IP: 66.154.39.41 (Cyberwurx/Conepuppy)

Name: vegas
Email: fruity@milkyporn.com
Domain(s): milkyporn.com
Submit IP: 64.237.41.92 (Choopa)

Name: SI
Email: webmaster@madskunk.com
Domain(s): madskunk.com, dangerous-cock.com, oxygenporn.com
Submit IP: 66.55.144.115 (Choopa)

Name: skyae
Email: admin@gold-sex.com
Domain(s): gold-sex.com
Submit IP: 66.55.144.135 (Choopa)

Name: Robert
Email: webmaster@webmaturexxx.com
Domain(s): webmaturexxx.com
Submit IP: 66.154.24.157 (Cyberwurx/Conepuppy)

Name: John
Email: webmaster@xxxmaturesite.com
Domain(s): xxxmaturesite.com
Submit IP: 66.154.65.156 (Cyberwurx/Conepuppy)

Name: geobro
Email: submit@dj-porn.com
Domain(s): dj-porn.com, porn3dom.com, sexy-flexy.com, sex3dom.com
Submit IP: 66.55.149.225 (Choopa)

Name: Ricardo <- reported here before
Email: ricardo@twinkgays.com
Domain(s): twinkgays.com
Submit IP: 67.19.138.116 (ThePlanet.com)

swedguy 2005-01-24 10:34 AM

Just found out that all 3 Cyberwurx IP's go to the same server.

Ramster 2005-01-24 11:23 AM

SI is good as far as I know and a good submitter.

Cleo 2005-01-24 11:26 AM

SI is a regular submitter at my LL too.

SI is submitting through a proxy server???

vegas 2005-01-25 04:43 AM

swedguy,
If you are afraid, that I shall redirect your traffic, you can remove all my sites from your Link List

2other LL owners
I always observed your rules, and never cheat you

agrafia 2005-01-26 04:47 AM

2 LL owners:
I'm HONEST webmaster, because reputation in adult business (or another business) cost
much more that anywhere else. I know this very well. For 3 year in this business made more
than 300 free sites. They were ALWAYS clean, according with LL rules and OF COURSE with NO ANY
cheat or redirect at ANY form. US adress is a REAL american address, not fake. Submit my sites throung proxy only because have much more traffic than when submit with real russian ip, NOT BECAUSE I WANT TO CHEAT. Anybody can't say that I redirect him.

My last sites:
http://www.agrafia.com/bbw/site-fucking/
http://www.agrafia.com/black/free-sex/
http://www.agrafia.com/black/sex-adult/
http://www.agrafia.com/blondes/fucking-adult/
http://www.agrafia.com/blondes/sexy-reality/


2 swedguy:
Why do you want to spoil my reputation with any REAL reason for this? Want to ask you delete
my domain from your cheater list because it's mistake.

eman 2005-01-26 05:54 AM

I've got some agrafia.com sites listed over at hadafew that were submitted back in Sept 2003 by Bobby Bang and there haven't been any redirection problems.

I recently issued BB with a pass and I'm now listing his new stuff.

As far as I'm concerned he's proved himself to be trustworthy.


(I ddn't mean to sound patronising - sorry about that).

agrafia 2005-01-26 06:50 AM

2 eman:
Thanks for support

docholly 2005-01-26 06:59 AM

Just as a note, while the ones that have responded are unlikely to be covered under this, i'd say the majority of LL and TGP owners have been burned so many times by others that do, we tend to paint all with a tainted brush *bought from home depot, of course*and proxy IPs certainly are a big red flag.

Swedeeeee was just, in my opinion, trying to get answers to his own query and this is the place to do it, not maliciously maligning anyone.

Nice sites BTW, agrafia

|rasta|

swedguy 2005-01-26 07:47 AM

agrafia,

Extremely clean sites, Ultrahoster, fake whois info (just because it's a real address, doesn't make it YOUR address) and submitting through proxy throws up a big red flag for me.

I have a lot of submitters from Russia and former eastern bloc countries. I have no problem with them since their whois info matches where they're submitting from and they don't seem to do any tricks. But when I see that people are trying to hide and deceive, I wonder for what purpose.

As you can see in my post, I didn't say that you or anyone else was a cheater. Just that you and 7 others were submitting through proxies. What other LL owners do with the info is up to them. If they do or don't have a problem with it, it's all up to them.

agrafia 2005-01-26 08:44 AM

"Extremely clean sites, Ultrahoster, fake whois info (just because it's a real address, doesn't make it YOUR address) and submitting through proxy throws up a big red flag for me."

I understood your position and suppose that you are right that these moments cause suspicions, but I try to make my sites always clean; it's real address of my aunt who some years ago had registered this domain; anywhere in your rules don't read that Ultrahoster and posting through proxy is not allowed. As I see *UPDATE* about proxy in your rules appeared in last time, but may be reading your rules with carelessness ago, than sorry

SexySearch_Ron 2005-01-26 10:48 AM

Agrafia has submitted to www.sexy-search.com many times and has to my knowledge been an honest and reliable submitter who's sites meet the rules and don't get redirected later.

regards.
Ron (Darren)

ronnie 2005-02-15 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SexySearch_Ron
Agrafia has submitted to www.sexy-search.com many times and has to my knowledge been an honest and reliable submitter who's sites meet the rules and don't get redirected later.

regards.
Ron (Darren)

I have'nt seen any trouble with him either.

ronnie

krki 2005-02-20 12:34 PM

Clean sites and here, no redirection of any kind.

amber438 2005-03-16 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by docholly
Nice sites BTW, agrafia

|rasta|


My sentiments too!

Mishi 2005-03-18 03:48 AM

I have had zero problems with agrafia, for the record.

spacemanspiff 2005-10-31 09:30 AM

I'm posting here instead of starting a new thread.

agrafia.com is redirection this morning. I don't know what's going on with that. He's been a good submitter up until now.

I'll wait a day or so before deleting the sites to give him a chance to respond.


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