Percentage Bookmarkers and Page Views/Visit
 

I've been building up some of my hubs and listing a alot of my freesites on the front page. Its mostly freesite traffic filtering through to my hub index.

Using AWstats generally I have seen 2-3 pages being viewed by a surfer per visit and 10-20% of surfers bookmarking the site.

Now I am seeing over 7 page views per surfer per visit and over 30% bookmarkers. Is it possible I am giving way too much away on my index linking to the freesites or should I be happy that I am attracting bookmarkers and that they like to look around my site? |huh

The freesites are reasonably easy to find so should I be making it harder for a surfer to get to them, for example putting them on a second page, or hiding them out of the way somewhere on the front page.

nevermail, I believe that if surfers stay more on your site once they reach it then it's great.
From SEs point of view ( and it seems just logical to me ) if surfers stay more on a site than it's quality, it has something of value that surfers are interested in, unlike spammy non-quality sites which in most cases get closed in the first 10 seconds or so ( and they can get this data, mostly Google through the toolbar ).

The increased number of bookmarkes is great, don't worry about that, at least I never do when I see more bookmarkers :D

Don't "hide" the freesites, just make sure that BEFORE the freesites you have some tasty banners/text links to make the surfer click them and give you a chance to make some money :)

Bookmarkers are great for hubs, link lists, tgp, etc. They bookmark you because they like your listings, so they'll come back & look to see what's new the next day/week/whatever.

They also build up a level of trust with you & your site, which means they might be comfortable enough to bust out that CC :)

For those of you that use AWstats what sort of percentage bookmarkers do people see on their Link Lists hubs etc??

My newest project - Porn Movie Links - is at 47.8% Direct address / Bookmarks for March, which I think is way too high since the site is averaging 5300 uniques a day (I can't see 2600 people visiting via bookmark or typing the URL into their browsers)

Direct address / Bookmarks for March:
unclethumper.com - 30.6%
naughtyplace.com - 43.2%

the numbers for Jan and Feb were the same within a couple percentage points

Add to favorites:
unclethumper.com - 12%
naughtyplace.com - 22.8%

What about "Add to favorites (estimated)" near the bottom under miscelaneous? - thats the one I was referring too.

Add to favorites (estimated) 28801 / 116999 Visitors 24.6 %

Add to favorites (estimated) 30628 / 86330 Visitors - 35.4 %
For my main hub - http:/www.pynio.com/

Although I figured that this seemed like an over-estimate, that's what AWStats has for March.
|huh

Of course, as has been mentioned numerous times before, yet bears repeating, AWstats is far from perfect at figuring access via bookmark and add-to-favorites. Bookmarks is really any access to your page from any link that AWstats can't register as another online page. Could be a link from within an email or maybe even some sort of proxy. Add to favorites is shite. That's only used for IE when it searches for your favicon.ico.

Smutbandit yesterday 116762/42532 BM/25.9 %

Yep thats a good point |thumb
However, I do still see a decent correlation of what AWstats shows and what I would expect from my individual sites. In other words a harder to surf site with shittier traffic shows less bookmarks than a well made site with lots of content and great well targeted traffic.
It seems to works well as a comparison between sites but I would not pay to much attention to the actual percentage.

FireFox looks for favicon.ico everytime it loads a page. That's likely skewing those figures big time.

That would be .9% of my surfers, prolly webmasters :D

be careful of awstats and what they tell you. My awstats we off by 1000%. yes.. no typo. ONE THOUSAND percent. You want to double check your awstats with perhaps an invisible counter. Details after my point on how i found out

With that in mind. My point is that I would be very careful on making any marketing / site changes based on stats retrieved from awstats until you have made sure that your awstats are trustworthy. Mine weren't so I switched to trusting google analytics for all my stats.





Now details.

My front page has a size of 100KB. I was tailing my access logs one day and noticed that I was getting a lot of hits requesting only 10k-30k. That's not even a third of the page that they are requesting. In short, a lot of weird bogus hits were coming, but awstats still counted them as valid page views. In awstats, there's a column that says Average Page Size. My average page size request was 60k. which doesn't make any sense. So i did an audit by putting on 3 page counters on my home page.

1) Google Analytics
2) Master Stats
3) Stat Counter

All 3 of those gave me stats within 5% of each other. Awstats was 1000% off.

So... yeah.... it sucks because i love awstats, especially since i got the stupid geoip plugin setup too. |sad|

Well AwStats says...

Direct address / Bookmarks 208054 47.3 % 379148 59.7 %
Add to favorites (estimated) 21866 / 153878 Visitors 14.2 %

I don't believe it either. :)

Why do you people have to bash AWStats? I'd like to believe that I'm getting 50% of my traffic from bookmarkers, but all you people do is knock me back down to reality |cry|

|couch|

I know what you mean about wanting to believe, GG :)
Awstats on my new project is showing...

Direct address / Bookmarks 61.2%
Add to favorites (estimated) 55.4%

For those who use awstats, there's info on configuring it linked
from this page that can help you tweak a few things...
http://awstats.sourceforge.net/docs/index.html



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