What Do You Think About All Of Us Spicing Up The Recip Links?

[Greenguy]

Yes, this really does belong in Link Lists & Getting Listed, but it's my board, so |nahnah|

I started to think about the text we all use for recip links, whether it's to a Link List, a TGP, or a standard trade. So this morning when I was cranking out a Free Site, I came up with these off the top of my head:

Your Pass To Clit (http://www.clitpass.com/)
They Have Both Kinds: Erotic and Naughty (http://www.erotictonaughty.com/)
Greenguy Spam O'Rama (http://www.link-o-rama.com/greenguy/mlinks.htm)
Pussy Links That Make You Smile (http://www.smilingpussylinks.com/)
The Teen Spanker (http://www.teenspanker.com/)
Links Of The Mature Erotica Kind (http://www.mature-erotica-links.com/)
Amateurs That Have Nipples (http://www.amateurnipples.com/)
These Girlfriends Are Sexy and Real (http://www.realsexygirlfriends.com/)
Dave Is Dangerous (http://www.dangerdave.com/)
It's A Festival Of Anal Sex (http://www.analsexfest.com/)
Alive Lesbian Amateurs (http://www.liveamateurlesbians.com/)
A Lesbian Network By Sunshine (http://www.sunshinelesbians.net/)

For the most part, all the keywords are still in there, but I think I have spiced everything up a bit so that they are different than the 1000's of existing links using the exact same words.

I'm thinking that I may want to encourage my submitters to come up with their own text for the links back to me.

Your thoughts? |shake|

[pc]

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[abatis]

ive been doing the linkback to my main hub site diffrent then i used to lately as well as using the same text in the title tag on the link.

i used to see changes quickly and effectively.
not as much these days.
but i am just one person...so..

bottom line is i dont see how it could be worse.


-abatis

[Cleo]

http://www.cantinastreetfood.co.uk/shop/image/cache/data/sauces/Cholula%20hot%20sause-500x500.jpg

[Fonz]

it's a bit what the penguin update is all about, more "natural" linking...

I'm all for it!
Did I tell you I'm going to start building freesites again? :)

[Bill]

it's about fucking time.

[JustRobert]

Link O Greenguy

[JackDaniel's]

Sounds good to me ... but I really lack imagination ... so how would you spice up Get Porn Links ? :D

[Jeremy82]

Sounds good to me ... but I really lack imagination ... so how would you spice up Get Porn Links ? :DGet Porn URLs?

[Greenguy]

Porn Links Is What You Get!

[cd34]

no one commented on Greenguy's Spam O Rama.

[Cleo]

The only issue I see with changing around our recips is it makes it more work for people building free sites and it isn't like we are overloaded with submits.

[Bill]

yeah, its definitely more work. so I figure roll it out slowly - which is how natiural linking would look anyway, to the algos. sudden changes looks arranged, exactly llike it is.

but, i changed the link for a site subbed to anal sex fest and it got rejected - so....

[Cleo]

I'll take just about anything in my recip as long as the URL contains either cleoslinks.com or cleos-porn-links.com.

[LD]

it's a bit what the penguin update is all about, more "natural" linking...
I wonder if it would be good to vary the anchor text on each submission? It would be a bit much for submitters, but different text for each submit might be a good idea.

[JustRobert]

Here's a thought, some will think this is stupid but I am good with that :D

NO recips at all!

Freesite submitters are way way down, at least those that put an effort into them. Maybe this will boost the amount of submits since they will be just a bit easier to put together, plus they can submit them to all those lists that will accept a clean freesite without making duplicates, mirrors and such.

In the beginning this may only be a few lists but could turn into a lot in time. If a lot of lists are pointing to a freesite built with a good amount of text and minimal links out, limited to 4, then maybe freesites will start showing up in the se's creating more freesite sales.

Simply put, more freesite sales would make people WANT to build more freesites and better freesites.

I remember when linklists use to list a large amount of sites while rejecting a lot every day. Who knows, maybe it could return back to that.

The worst thing that could happen is your list does no better in the engines but you at least have more listing for the surfers you do have. This keeps them on your site longer and makes them happier and a happy surfer comes back another day.

Just a thought and feel free to think it's foolish.

[Pagan]

Nice idea, plus it adds variety. I know I ignore links and such that contain the same old thing. Adding something different would shake it up. I will definitely accept them, as well as sites with no recips. I don't think surfers care anyway.

[LD]

Here's a thought, some will think this is stupid but I am good with that :D

NO recips at all!

Freesite submitters are way way down, at least those that put an effort into them. Maybe this will boost the amount of submits since they will be just a bit easier to put together, plus they can submit them to all those lists that will accept a clean freesite without making duplicates, mirrors and such.

In the beginning this may only be a few lists but could turn into a lot in time. If a lot of lists are pointing to a freesite built with a good amount of text and minimal links out, limited to 4, then maybe freesites will start showing up in the se's creating more freesite sales.

Simply put, more freesite sales would make people WANT to build more freesites and better freesites.

I remember when linklists use to list a large amount of sites while rejecting a lot every day. Who knows, maybe it could return back to that.

The worst thing that could happen is your list does no better in the engines but you at least have more listing for the surfers you do have. This keeps them on your site longer and makes them happier and a happy surfer comes back another day.

Just a thought and feel free to think it's foolish.

That's interesting, and freesites without the big blob of recips do look better. I am not sure if recips have all that much value these days. I get a few clicks from people that click on the links, but that's about it.

[Bill]

that is a good idea.

Some kind of agreement about linking patterns might be the best compromise - giving a link from the index page of a freesite domain plus some links in some other ways, in exchange for the subbing of no recip freessites.

the absolute predictibility and artificiality of the standard freesite linking pattern has been death for SE credibility for years and years now - yet, we never change.

I have suggested stuff like this before, but we have been mired in fears and habits and no-longer-functional rules.

jesus, I am so fucking glad that people are finally beginning to start thinking like this.

[Greenguy]

...I am not sure if recips have all that much value these days. I get a few clicks from people that click on the links, but that's about it.

Here's the numbers for link-o-rama.com as far as Traffic Sources:
36.55% Search Traffic
37.02% Referral Traffic
23.47% Direct Traffic
2.97% Campaigns (???)

Seeing as Referral Traffic refers to all the links to my site on other people's sites/pages, I have to assume a lot of those come from recip links on submitted sites, especially since I really have no mega trades set up.

[Cleo]

Cleos-porn-links.com
34.65%Search Traffic
21.98%Referral Traffic
43.04%Direct Traffic
0.34%Campaigns

Cleoslinks.com (root page)
10.39%Search Traffic
76.10%Referral Traffic
13.51%Direct Traffic

[pc]

45.99% Search Traffic
46.44% Referral Traffic
7.57% Direct Traffic

There was a thread some time ago about moving the recip to the index page of a domain in question. I did like the idea, I also made some modifications to my submit page, so submitter could choose the placement of the reciprocal link. I still like the idea of placing recip on index page of submitted domain instead on submitted fs. I think it's the better solution vs no recip at all.

[JustRobert]

For August:
48.7% Search
25.1% Direct
25.5% external half of that is from my own network linking back

With that being said I am still willing to give it a go and will gladly list clean freesites and galleries.

There really is only like 4 maybe 6 lists that send proper traffic. Maybe those lists should go back to their old rules of no more than 6 recips on a page and all the small owners are willing to list those. And yes I would, right now!

Remember getting listed at LOR and then having like 20 other sites listing you. This could happen again and we might all be the better for it.

Now Greenie and "He who shall not be named"....lay down the law!

|couch|

seriously, something has to change

[Greenguy]

I once found a clit pass (http://www.clitpass.com/) that gave me access to everything, from erotic to naughty (http://www.erotictonaughty.com/). I was still a teen spanker (http://www.teenspanker.com/) when I found it, but now that my erotica has matured (http://www.mature-erotica-links.com/), I find myself smiling at all the pussy links (http://www.smilingpussylinks.com/) that I find. While I do like the occasional porn movie link (http://www.pornmovielinks.com/), for me, the sun always shines on lesbians (http://www.sunshinelesbians.net/index.html)! Just don't tell my real sexy girlfriend (http://www.realsexygirlfriends.com/), otherwise it's jurbi (http://www.jurbi.com/) for me!

[Greenguy]

BTW - I just posted this on all the LOR webmaster pages:

Please feel free to get creative with your recip links

|shake|

[RedCherry]

no one commented on Greenguy's Spam O Rama.

That one made me laugh out loud.

Even if those of us in the network are the only ones doing it, it still changes out some of the links coming back to our sites.

I'm all for it. |thumb

I liked that paragraph you did Greenie, that reminds me of the old days, back when I could get anything at the top of google, and writing some weird spam paragraphs.

I will tell Jim to be on the lookout (since he checks links) but as far as I'm concerned anything from no recips to paragraphs of text goes from those of you in the network.

I had my host pull all my standard links back to two of my link lists for women, to reduce some of the repeated back links. Waiting a few months to see if it has an effect in the SE's.|virgohippy|

[RedCherry]

I'm also adding keywords for the niches of the sites I submit to make them different too, yet linking to the indexes like

Fantastic Extreme XXX Toon Links (http://www.xxxporntastic.com/)
XXX Toon Links By Greenguy (http://www.link-o-rama.com/)
Dangerous Toon Porn By Dave (http://www.dangerdave.com/adult-links/main.shtml)

[Greenguy]

If you're going to do that, I'd ask that you just link to the category page for mine :)