View Full Version : What do members believe is the fastest growing Niche?
Mattinblack
2006-01-02, 11:12 AM
Looking to put a lot of effort into a new site, so would like to target it at a fast growing (newer) niche that is not likely to decline for a while. Any suggestions?
By the time you read about it on the boards, the niche in question has probably almost past it's honeymoon period sell by date.
If you are going to put a lot of effort into something, it's probably better to pick a niche you enjoy.
Yup, just like the fishing report. When you hear about the hot spot to go, it means you should have been there yesterday.
Surfn
2006-01-02, 11:36 AM
I created a couple of new niche this past summer that are doing real well. One sponsor has even jumped on the niche. I'm still not ready to say what they are. I may in a year or two. Of course by then I'll have several more newly created niche :D
Greenguy
2006-01-02, 11:54 AM
I always liked the idea of building sites that you were personally interested in, as then it has a more real feel to it.
Mattinblack
2006-01-02, 11:58 AM
Fair enuff... thanks for the heads up guys.
Kenny B!
2006-01-02, 12:22 PM
Seems like the trend is going towards more extreme and off the wall content, there are some wacky folks out there!
Preacher
2006-01-02, 02:01 PM
If you are going to put a lot of effort into something, it's probably better to pick a niche you enjoy.
I couldn't agree more. It will also be a niche you most likely are more knowledgable about, which will most likely be beneficial to your sales.
PR_Tom
2006-01-02, 03:16 PM
I'd pick a niche you like as well, and add a sub-niche to it.
Like black girls? Make a black-anal site. Black-big tits, black-blowjob, black-dp, black-lesbian etc etc etc..
The market is tapped, but untapped.. something like that. A fringe type of thing.
Sorry to throw a spanner in the works here, but does Sextracker know that you are using their site design Mattinblack?
http://ukescort.kwikfire.com/
http://www.sextracker.com/
??
spookyx
2006-01-02, 05:48 PM
I always liked the idea of building sites that you were personally interested in, as then it has a more real feel to it.
I agree 100% if its a niche you like you will understand it better, which means better text, picking better photos/movies etc...
Mattinblack
2006-01-03, 07:15 AM
Sorry to throw a spanner in the works here, but does Sextracker know that you are using their site design Mattinblack?
http://ukescort.kwikfire.com/
http://www.sextracker.com/
??
Sextracker has seen this design used several times Urb. I will use anything that works well and am not above copying and modification. I am in such illustrious company as IBM, McDonalds, Microsoft and most governments there!
What I do is not 'art' but making money. I had a previous design that did not perform so well, and have new design in the wings that hopefully will do better if I ever get time to finish it. If that does not work then I will step back to this one.
PS: if you look at Olympus- http://olympus.kwikfire.com you will see I do some original stuff as well!
Sextracker has seen this design used several times Urb. I will use anything that works well and am not above copying and modification.
No worries, I guess their site design is just public domain then?
docholly
2006-01-03, 07:40 AM
PS: if you look at Olympus- http://olympus.kwikfire.com you will see I do some original stuff as well!
hey can you pm me when one of those guys gets a "sexual 10/10"??
Head Boy
2006-01-03, 07:53 AM
Holographic porn will be part of the future. :D
Mattinblack
2006-01-03, 10:32 AM
No worries, I guess their site design is just public domain then?
Legally if people use a design without permission and there is no defence of copyright within a period (which varies from country to country in practice though I believe international law sets it at 12 months) then you lose that copyright.... as a designer you should know that one. If I had a dollar for every site that copied my original Top-Times escort site in the 80's then I would b rich! There is also a substantial grey area as to how much of a copy something has to be to infringe copyright.
For example if somebody copied this entire BB then so long as they
did not call it GG&J (they would be guilty of 'passing off' if they did) and GG&J did not mount a proper challenge in writing within 12 months they would get away with it unless they were in the same state/country as GG&J and that state happened to have different laws. Of course none of *us* would go there would we?
If they (sex tracker) complain and I dont believe they will because their reviewers have seen the site and there are other more blatant copies out there - a site on kinghosts I saw even had exactly the same buttons - plus I am plugging sextrackers products on site; then I will change it. I plan to change it as soon as I finish the new template set to go with my VB sitebuilder anyway since I think I have a design that works better.
Mattinblack
2006-01-03, 10:35 AM
hey can you pm me when one of those guys gets a "sexual 10/10"??
LOL have passed your request onto Sherri, the lady who runs the non-net part of the enterprise. I expect she will throw a party if that happens and invite you over. By the way I am not responsible for putting the ugly looking git at the top of the listing - Sherri got him to pay through the nose for that placement and unfortunately he is happy with it though it has not done the sites conversion rates much good!
RawAlex
2006-01-03, 10:45 AM
Mattinblack, I don't think it is a question of "what you can legally get away with" but more a moral issue. I can clearly see where you have taken graphical images (which have a lifelong copyright as a work of art) and have lightly modified the original to reflect your site name instead of sextracker.
The implication here is if this is what you would do for your own public face, what should we think of the rest of your business practices?
Think about it.
Alex
Legally if people use a design without permission and there is no defence of copyright within a period (which varies from country to country in practice though I believe international law sets it at 12 months) then you lose that copyright.... as a designer you should know that one.
I guess I'm totally ignorant of the law.
Thanks for putting me straight Matt.
RawAlex
2006-01-03, 11:37 AM
Matt, you might want to spend some time over here:
http://www.patent.gov.uk/copy/indetail/ownership.htm
I think you may be confusing "trademark" and "copyright". Failure to protect a trademark or tradename can cause it's loss. Certainly a different animal.
Alex
RawAlex
2006-01-03, 11:41 AM
Perhaps you might want to consult the WIPO website...
http://www.wipo.int/copyright/en/faq/faqs.htm#rights
I can't seem to find much about 12 month expiries or "uncontested" uses... seems to me you get upwards to 70 years to start with and more beyond that.
Please... help me out here... show me how you figure you can steal from others with impunity.
Alex
Geezer
2006-01-03, 11:44 AM
Copyright, unless it's changed, last for 30 years after the death of the person who owns the copyright, or there abouts.
Thanks for the information Alex.
Legally if people use a design without permission and there is no defence of copyright within a period (which varies from country to country in practice though I believe international law sets it at 12 months) then you lose that copyright.... as a designer you should know that one.
So basically, what Matt said in this post was not true?
RawAlex
2006-01-03, 12:31 PM
urb, I cannot find anything anywhere to support the notion of "uncontested copyright". I don't say true or untrue, but I can't find anything to support it, so I asked for some links or information to work from.
Alex
Thanks Alex :)
I'm here to learn, so if anyone can post a link to any information regarding uncontested copyright laws and web design, then please help us fill in the blanks.
Useless
2006-01-03, 01:09 PM
Being that I am one of the few real geniuses in the business :D I will share with you my bit o' knowledge in these arena. RawAlex is correct. Matt is wrong.|thumb
Copyrights are inherent in any work. If at any time you can show that someone has copied your work, they can and should be sued. As mentioned previously, copyrights typically expire after a set period of years after death. This varies.
Trademarks are different. If you use someone's trademark and they don't contest it AFTER learning of it's use, then the thief is not liable for damages. I know of no set time period because the court has to decide if the trademark holder would have known previously of the infringement and whether they had chosen not to pursue the defendant/cocksucker.
Examples of uncontested, yet horribly infringed, trademarks are xerox and kleenex. A lot of people, even corporations refer to making copies as xeroxing. A lot of people say "get me a kleenex" when they want a tissue, no matter what brand it is. Both Xerox and Kleenex have allowed this to happen because it's damned good branding and advertising. Most trademark infringements hurt business though, rather than helping it.
Trust me, if you started referring to every tough link list owner/reviewer as a 'DangerDave', he'd hunt you down. :D
Mattinblack
2006-01-03, 01:47 PM
I consider my ass well and truly chewed...the Trademark thing was in the back of my mind and did indeed get confused with copyright in my scurry for self defence!
The site will change soon anyhow.|bow| Alex and Useless
As regards business practices maybe I should be flying the skull and crossbones like urb....
Torn Rose
2006-01-03, 02:35 PM
As regards business practices maybe I should be flying the skull and crossbones like urb....
going to copy that to now?
RawAlex
2006-01-03, 03:06 PM
Zing!
Mattinblack
2006-01-03, 03:50 PM
going to copy that to now?
Nah ... went for a diferent warning sign....lol
Matt
You really didn't steal Sextracker's design and think that was alright, did you?
You seem to have shown yourself as a thief without any remorse. The site should be taken down now and only put back online when you stop using the stolen design and graphics. Not, "The site will change soon anyhow." As you claim in your post above.
stwof
2006-01-03, 05:16 PM
try something different.
like toe anal, then they suck it.
or elbow fucking |thumb
Chop Smith
2006-01-03, 06:09 PM
Foot in mouth would be a good one
As regards business practices maybe I should be flying the skull and crossbones like urb....
Since the Jolly Roger was designed and published before 1923, I'm not breaking any laws using it. It's been my avatar for many years.
But I can assure you that everything I design is hand coded from scratch.
Why did I call you out on your use of stolen templates? Because it's better for you to hear it from someone neutral, than the legal department of a company.
More reading for you... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMCA
xxxjay
2006-01-04, 05:17 AM
By the time you read about it on the boards, the niche in question has probably almost past it's honeymoon period sell by date.
If you are going to put a lot of effort into something, it's probably better to pick a niche you enjoy.
I agree. Squirting comes to mind.
And the topic was ?
Sad, it was going well.
Mattinblack
2006-01-04, 10:04 PM
Lmao ... OK guys if you would like to re-examine http://ukescort.kwikfire.com you will find that after 24 hours solid coding it is now totally different.
Any similarities between http://ukescort.kwikfire.com and any other site, living or dead are purely coincidental.
No Pixcels were harmed during the making of this site.
PS.... you can get back to the post topic now if you aint too pissed off.
I will start you off... heres the niches I am considering:
Black Boobs, Black Lesbian, Squirting - seeing as one site I have is already accidentally no 4 for "squirtinggirl"..... Heyu if I could find the content I would open up a new niche for ebony lesbian amputee dwarves...
Halfdeck
2006-01-04, 10:33 PM
Cleo's new avatar reminds me of a niche I'd like...young nuns.
Surfn
2006-01-05, 01:02 AM
Something about this thread smells...
Lmao ... OK guys if you would like to re-examine http://ukescort.kwikfire.com you will find that after 24 hours solid coding it is now totally different.
Any similarities between http://ukescort.kwikfire.com and any other site, living or dead are purely coincidental.
No Pixcels were harmed during the making of this site.
PS.... you can get back to the post topic now if you aint too pissed off.
Not pissed at you at all... just glad you took everyone's advice. :)
Mattinblack
2006-01-05, 08:24 AM
Not pissed at you at all... just glad you took everyone's advice. :)
Always will take ay advice that is free, unbiased and makes sense!
Have removed fish... guess thats what made thread smell....
misty3k
2006-01-05, 01:30 PM
fastest growing niche? I've got an idea for one....(the squeamish may want to avert their eyes)
Toothless Blowjobs--women with no teeth goin down on big ol cocks.|shocking|
Useless
2006-01-05, 02:24 PM
I can't recall anything that seems especially new and different right now. Perhaps we are in the porn duldrums just waiting for the next sick fetish to come along and fill our sails again. I have a different/weird idea for a gay masturbation site, but I'm not telling anyone. :D
Agent
2006-01-05, 02:38 PM
I can't recall anything that seems especially new and different right now. Perhaps we are in the porn duldrums just waiting for the next sick fetish to come along and fill our sails again. I have a different/weird idea for a gay masturbation site, but I'm not telling anyone. :D
Guys fucking guys dressed in giant hand costumes? :D
Useless
2006-01-05, 05:05 PM
Guys fucking guys dressed in giant hand costumes? :DOh, you thought of that too?
I guess it's back to the big gay drawing board for me. :D
MeatPounder
2006-01-05, 05:17 PM
fastest growing niche? I've got an idea for one....(the squeamish may want to avert their eyes)
Toothless Blowjobs--women with no teeth goin down on big ol cocks.|shocking|
Gummies have been popular for awhile :)
misty3k
2006-01-05, 05:31 PM
Gummies have been popular for awhile :)
Oh man! And here I thought I was being so "out there"!
:D
RawAlex
2006-01-05, 05:33 PM
Goodie goodie gum jobs!
Alex
Mattinblack
2006-01-05, 05:36 PM
Oh man! And here I thought I was being so "out there"!
:D
Yeah found this Hot Gummi Video Site (http://cubbi.org/gummi/video.html) already so looks like we r too late... sigh.
Nasty Lidya
2006-01-05, 08:09 PM
Seems like the trend is going towards more extreme and off the wall content, there are some wacky folks out there!
And I'm one of them ;)
But really what I would suggest is mobile content. PSP & iPod porn is the rage right now - and the cool thing is that this isn't really a niche, but rather a brand new way to distribute / sell porn. I've had 3 or 4 webmaster sign up the last couple of days who are building iPod Porn / Porn Podcast sites.
Useless
2006-01-05, 08:39 PM
|spam|So instead of answering the question or even attempting to stay on topic, you push your program. Nice.
Why is your board English so much better than the crap on your tour? Honest question.
Talleyrand
2006-01-05, 10:46 PM
I can't recall anything that seems especially new and different right now. Perhaps we are in the porn duldrums just waiting for the next sick fetish to come along and fill our sails again. I have a different/weird idea for a gay masturbation site, but I'm not telling anyone. :D
UW, your idea is based in your recent personal experience?:D
Dont answer, please, some girls are reading!
|waves|
Talleyrand
MadMax
2006-01-05, 10:57 PM
I can't recall anything that seems especially new and different right now. Perhaps we are in the porn duldrums just waiting for the next sick fetish to come along and fill our sails again.
I'm always up for the next sick fetish. Heaven will weep one day when I've got the resources to start a program :D
I'd really like to stick to just one niche so that I could really do it well - spend all of my content dollars in that one area, focus on building niche traffic hubs etc. But when it comes to picking the niche I find it hard to figure out the balance between what is underrepresented on the net (or even if there are a lot of sites, but they're done really poorly) & what is a popular enough niche to make it worthwhile.
I could have the BEST Asian BBW foot fetish site on the market, but if the market for that site is too small, I would've been better off having an almost unheard of teen site.
Other than overture search results, how do you do market research to determine how popular a niche is?
Who's making bling with midgets ?
I wonder if this is one of them ?
PR_Tom
2006-01-06, 10:12 AM
Other than overture search results, how do you do market research to determine how popular a niche is?
You *could* create an adwords ad and target some keywords that you're THINKING of building a site for. See how many click through. Even if you link to a page with just information on it, the point is to see how many factually DO search and click..
You *could* create an adwords ad and target some keywords that you're THINKING of building a site for. See how many click through. Even if you link to a page with just information on it, the point is to see how many factually DO search and click..
That's an interesting idea. Maybe I should do a thread & keep track of my progress.
PR_Tom
2006-01-06, 10:06 PM
Yeah :) You could also do an opt-in if people would like to be notified when the site is live or something. I know I know, emailing & adult is not a simple subject, but again, it is market research that you're really after. You could just toss the email addresses in the recycle bin.
tickler
2006-01-07, 12:32 AM
I always liked the idea of building sites that you were personally interested in, as then it has a more real feel to it.
Once you get comfortable with a niche, you can move on to another. Just spend some time reasearching it. Read about it, even lurk on user boards.
MadMax and KCat:
One place that I always seem to find new niches is on TV. Even some mainstream shows like CSI have covered niches like Domination, Trannies, Biting, P&F, etc. There are also some specialty TV shows on satelite.
Also the smaller the niche, the better the conversions.
MadMax
2006-01-07, 12:37 AM
Also the smaller the niche, the better the conversions.
I used to do really well converting Menstrual, back before Bloody Trixie got screwed out of her payment processing capability. Not too much traffic, but it converted like gold.
GunnCat
2006-01-07, 01:39 AM
Seems every program has the same old thing. Getting dull. Won't be long before surfers are bored with it also. I say a good bet is something we have seen, real amatuer sites.
...I say a good bet is something we have seen, real amatuer sites.ssshhhhhhhh, whisper when you say that.
Mattinblack
2006-01-07, 08:46 AM
Other than overture search results, how do you do market research to determine how popular a niche is?
Thats one of the reasons I started Strange Attractor. It has a *lot* of niche categories and I can spot what folk are clicking on from the records produced by my script. As a tip, if you look at the irritating moving strip of thumbs above the links they are in order the top 30 clicked links (ignoring aging algorythm) on the site, leftmost is the top one. Currently it has too few visitors to be truly representative though hence me getting other votes from this forum!
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