[2011-05-25 19::28:15] » Cleo was promoted to operator by ChanServ. [2011-05-25 19::28:37] virgohippy: hiya clea [2011-05-25 19::28:39] Cleo: Hi early people :) [2011-05-25 19::28:40] virgohippy: er... cleo [2011-05-25 19::29:04] virgohippy: I'm so early, I've been here since last week. =P [2011-05-25 19::34:32] cd34: not according to IRC idle 00:05:16, signon: Wed May 25 19:18:09 haha [2011-05-25 19::35:50] virgohippy: oh yeah, hehe [2011-05-25 19::36:13] virgohippy: no really, I've been lurking here since last week [2011-05-25 19::40:01] Cleo: So what is the bot that I always see in there? What kind of bot things does it do? [2011-05-25 19::40:04] cd34: just reconnected at 19:18? haha [2011-05-25 19::40:17] cd34: prevents nick collisons and provides auto-op when you log in [2011-05-25 19::40:26] virgohippy: yeah, took a nap [2011-05-25 19::40:41] virgohippy: actually... I don't think I logged in earlier today [2011-05-25 19::40:57] virgohippy: GGaJBot, gimme all your cheetos [2011-05-25 19::41:23] virgohippy: hmm... must not be a service bot [2011-05-25 19::41:31] cd34: you forgot to use sudo [2011-05-25 19::41:53] cd34: http://xkcd.com/149/ [2011-05-25 19::42:13] virgohippy: lol [2011-05-25 19::42:45] Cleo: :D [2011-05-25 19::44:56] cd34: http://xkcd.com/742/ this one is my favorite, especially the alt text [2011-05-25 19::45:36] cd34: 192.168/16 is an RFC1918 block - non-routable IP addresses used for local networks [2011-05-25 19::46:00] virgohippy: oh okay... I was about to say.. HOLY SHIT, IT WAS ME! [2011-05-25 19::46:28] » hashbury joined the chat room. [2011-05-25 19::46:36] hashbury: Hey all [2011-05-25 19::46:39] virgohippy: hiya hashbury [2011-05-25 19::46:41] cd34: hey hashbury [2011-05-25 19::46:42] Cleo: -Hi [2011-05-25 19::47:43] Cleo: Music is paying [2011-05-25 19::48:21] cd34: woot, collect some of that $$ [2011-05-25 19::48:37] cd34: oh, playing :) [2011-05-25 19::48:42] cd34: testing 1.2.3 [2011-05-25 19::48:45] cd34: little low there [2011-05-25 19::48:50] cd34: second one was harder to hear [2011-05-25 19::49:12] hashbury: did you get the bugs worked out from last time [2011-05-25 19::49:24] virgohippy: wow... that's a real crisp, clear sound [2011-05-25 19::49:26] Cleo: Hopefully yes [2011-05-25 19::49:33] hashbury: :) [2011-05-25 19::49:57] virgohippy: woops... gotta close the windows [2011-05-25 19::50:03] virgohippy: I'm living above a church now. =P [2011-05-25 19::51:32] hashbury: im not so hard to please i climax easily: Ive never heard that before [2011-05-25 19::52:20] Cleo: Horny All the Time (Strip Club Mix) by Bastone & Burnz [2011-05-25 19::52:22] cd34: A 'Family Radio' church? [2011-05-25 19::52:53] virgohippy: I dunno... I just call 'em "the churchies" [2011-05-25 19::53:03] cd34: did they move out Saturday? haha [2011-05-25 19::53:07] Cleo: are they horny? [2011-05-25 19::53:19] virgohippy: where's the |crazy| smilie [2011-05-25 19::53:29] virgohippy: lol [2011-05-25 19::53:33] virgohippy: this song is funny! [2011-05-25 19::53:35] virgohippy: =D [2011-05-25 19::53:38] cd34: did you know that Family Radio took in $80m in the last 6 years with their prophecy stuff... [2011-05-25 19::53:54] hashbury: haha this song is very funny [2011-05-25 19::53:57] » meatpounder joined the chat room. [2011-05-25 19::54:01] cd34: hey meatpounder [2011-05-25 19::54:07] virgohippy: hiya meatpounder [2011-05-25 19::54:12] meatpounder: hi there [2011-05-25 19::54:12] Cleo: Hi [2011-05-25 19::54:22] cd34: Tune into the Radio Show, http://greenguyandjim.com:8000/ [2011-05-25 19::55:20] hashbury: Hi meatpounder [2011-05-25 19::55:24] virgohippy: this song is waking me up something fierce [2011-05-25 19::55:45] meatpounder: lol, big diff between mml's taste in music and cleos ;) [2011-05-25 19::55:49] cd34: thought you lived in LA virgohippy [2011-05-25 19::55:52] » pc joined the chat room. [2011-05-25 19::55:55] cd34: hey pc [2011-05-25 19::55:59] virgohippy: hiya pc [2011-05-25 19::56:08] meatpounder: hi pc [2011-05-25 19::56:17] » Simon joined the chat room. [2011-05-25 19::56:27] pc: evening everyone, cd34, virgohippy, Cleo, hasbury, Simon, mp [2011-05-25 19::56:28] meatpounder: hi simon [2011-05-25 19::56:34] virgohippy: hiya simon [2011-05-25 19::56:48] cd34: hey virgohippy, here's a form I did as a prototype in roughly 20 minutes http://sflhackers.com/startups/add note the 'add round/add members' [2011-05-25 19::56:49] cd34: hey Simon [2011-05-25 19::56:50] hashbury: Hi PC and Simon [2011-05-25 19::57:07] cd34: virgohippy, uses pyramid + deform - I believe django has a similar form library [2011-05-25 19::57:12] » plateman joined the chat room. [2011-05-25 19::57:16] cd34: hey plateman [2011-05-25 19::57:20] plateman: hey [2011-05-25 19::57:21] Simon: hiya and good evening (or whatever applies where you are) [2011-05-25 19::57:28] pc: hi plateman [2011-05-25 19::57:29] virgohippy: hiya plateman [2011-05-25 19::57:36] meatpounder: hi plateman [2011-05-25 19::57:46] virgohippy: sparky, you do love your rapid-developments =D [2011-05-25 19::57:46] plateman: hi sure is nice to be back [2011-05-25 19::57:47] hashbury: hey plateman [2011-05-25 19::57:58] plateman: hey hash [2011-05-25 19::58:21] virgohippy: formalchemy? [2011-05-25 19::58:34] plateman: cd, pc, simon, meat, virgo, cleo [2011-05-25 19::58:37] cd34: virgohippy, no, this uses deform + pyramid and a quick mapper I wrote [2011-05-25 19::58:44] virgohippy: *nods* [2011-05-25 19::58:48] cd34: I do like formalchemy though - I might move back to that [2011-05-25 19::59:03] virgohippy: I've been dusting off the older libraries [2011-05-25 19::59:07] plateman: we have audio? [2011-05-25 19::59:08] cd34: formalchemy allows for gridtables, which you can't do with deform [2011-05-25 19::59:14] cd34: Tune into the Radio Show, http://greenguyandjim.com:8000/ [2011-05-25 19::59:19] meatpounder: turning down vs (the hockey game...GO BRUINS) [2011-05-25 19::59:21] plateman: thanks [2011-05-25 19::59:32] pc: HI Cleo [2011-05-25 19::59:33] virgohippy: I like to build my own middle-ware... still have a hard time working with others [2011-05-25 19::59:42] virgohippy: hiya Cleo! [2011-05-25 20::00:33] cd34: audio much better this time [2011-05-25 20::00:40] pc: :) [2011-05-25 20::00:40] hashbury: perfect audio [2011-05-25 20::00:46] meatpounder: best audio ever for the chat [2011-05-25 20::00:58] pc: hi Foxy [2011-05-25 20::01:00] virgohippy: yep [2011-05-25 20::01:02] virgohippy: hear just fine [2011-05-25 20::01:04] meatpounder: hi foxey [2011-05-25 20::01:15] meatpounder: lol [2011-05-25 20::01:22] Simon: listening via iTunes just fine here [2011-05-25 20::01:36] virgohippy: <---- WMP [2011-05-25 20::01:54] cd34: Simon, this is using icecast (shoutcast) - not the ole windows media server from before... this is actually what MML used to use before the great meltdown [2011-05-25 20::02:04] meatpounder: duh..you actually use itunes for anything but loading your phone pod pad? [2011-05-25 20::02:41] pc: yes [2011-05-25 20::02:42] Simon: really nice clear sound here [2011-05-25 20::02:44] hashbury: good here [2011-05-25 20::02:45] cd34: I use itunes to listen to music and sometimes radio feeds [2011-05-25 20::02:49] meatpounder: audio i great here [2011-05-25 20::02:52] cd34: yep, hearing the audio from both of you just fine [2011-05-25 20::03:04] virgohippy: yep, not a buzz [2011-05-25 20::03:28] Simon: I listed to internet radio via iTunes… sent via airtunes to remote speakers [2011-05-25 20::03:44] » FoxyAngel joined the chat room. [2011-05-25 20::03:45] virgohippy: thought he heard a high-five slap [2011-05-25 20::03:56] meatpounder: hi foxy [2011-05-25 20::04:00] Cleo: Hi there Foxy [2011-05-25 20::04:01] cd34: Hey FoxyAngel [2011-05-25 20::04:04] pc: HI FOXY [2011-05-25 20::04:06] hashbury: i didnt know comcast was in fl [2011-05-25 20::04:06] Simon: there she is … hiya Foxy [2011-05-25 20::04:06] virgohippy: I'm using speakers older then me... [2011-05-25 20::04:16] virgohippy: hiya Foxy [2011-05-25 20::04:20] plateman: i have an audio problem [2011-05-25 20::04:20] cd34: sparky/chris [2011-05-25 20::04:24] meatpounder: long story :) [2011-05-25 20::04:29] Simon: comcast all the way down to the keys [2011-05-25 20::04:40] hashbury: not where im at [2011-05-25 20::04:44] hashbury: tampa area [2011-05-25 20::04:54] cd34: actually, quite a few Floridians here [2011-05-25 20::05:11] meatpounder: yup me too here in coconut creek [2011-05-25 20::05:16] hashbury: wow [2011-05-25 20::05:21] Simon: Plateman is often wrist-deep in a tranny … or so he says [2011-05-25 20::05:28] hashbury: lol [2011-05-25 20::05:32] meatpounder: was moved 4 yrs ago [2011-05-25 20::05:36] virgohippy: Floridians... I always thought that was the stuff in toothpaste [2011-05-25 20::05:36] pc: for everyone who's goona read chat text later, today's show is sponsored by http://foxyangel.com/webmasters/ [2011-05-25 20::05:43] pc: :) [2011-05-25 20::05:49] meatpounder: business address is still in hollywood [2011-05-25 20::07:08] virgohippy: especially if they have kids [2011-05-25 20::07:12] virgohippy: but that's something different [2011-05-25 20::07:22] virgohippy: ^ to the jail cell [2011-05-25 20::07:22] hashbury: i got three of em lol [2011-05-25 20::07:46] cd34: only house in Florida that has appreciated in value during the recession [2011-05-25 20::08:02] hashbury: is there a diference between the term tranny and shemale? [2011-05-25 20::08:10] plateman: LOL [2011-05-25 20::08:43] virgohippy: what's the inappropriate term? [2011-05-25 20::09:00] hashbury: curious or bi curious? [2011-05-25 20::09:39] virgohippy: I've discovered tranny porn on a few peoples' computers [2011-05-25 20::09:45] virgohippy: they said they were straight [2011-05-25 20::09:47] Simon: it's funny to hear some old dude say "I slammed my tranny into reverse." [2011-05-25 20::10:46] Simon: I think he means "how do you insult a tranny?" [2011-05-25 20::11:11] virgohippy: yeah, what Simon said [2011-05-25 20::11:26] virgohippy: more directly, what turns a shemale surfer turned off by? [2011-05-25 20::11:37] virgohippy: er... something like that [2011-05-25 20::12:04] hashbury: poor guys lol [2011-05-25 20::12:27] meatpounder: alot of confusion as far as sub-niches...feminine shemales are sort of chicks with dicks? I know tops and bottoms...are there fetish ones such as you mentioned dungeons? [2011-05-25 20::12:44] meatpounder: the midget! [2011-05-25 20::12:56] » PR_Tom joined the chat room. [2011-05-25 20::13:10] hashbury: Hi PR Tom [2011-05-25 20::13:14] cd34: hey PR_Tom [2011-05-25 20::13:17] PR_Tom: hey, hi, ho [2011-05-25 20::13:17] virgohippy: hiya tom [2011-05-25 20::13:25] meatpounder: smow foxy [2011-05-25 20::13:27] pc: hi PT_TOM [2011-05-25 20::13:33] meatpounder: snow [2011-05-25 20::13:41] Simon: hiya Tom [2011-05-25 20::13:59] virgohippy: what makes a shemale surfer go limp? [2011-05-25 20::14:00] meatpounder: I mean sub niches whithing the shemale world [2011-05-25 20::14:04] plateman: fuckin WMP [2011-05-25 20::14:07] virgohippy: you know, the wrong approach [2011-05-25 20::14:27] plateman: hi tom long time [2011-05-25 20::14:59] PR_Tom: yep, been long time [2011-05-25 20::15:11] PR_Tom: mIRC still had all the info! [2011-05-25 20::15:40] pc: so foxy, what was the funniest thing you ever did while filming ? [2011-05-25 20::15:50] plateman: I have audio [2011-05-25 20::16:05] PR_Tom: Hi Cleo and Foxy [2011-05-25 20::16:14] Cleo: Hi [2011-05-25 20::16:24] plateman: hi foxy [2011-05-25 20::16:45] » bDOk joined the chat room. [2011-05-25 20::16:55] cd34: hey bDOk [2011-05-25 20::16:55] bDOk: sup [2011-05-25 20::16:55] virgohippy: hiya bDok [2011-05-25 20::17:01] pc: hi bdok [2011-05-25 20::17:03] bDOk: url for listen? [2011-05-25 20::17:06] hashbury: I had a guy poop on the floor once at a shoot that was funny, made him clean it up too [2011-05-25 20::17:06] plateman: hi bdok [2011-05-25 20::17:16] » BabyMaker joined the chat room. [2011-05-25 20::17:23] bDOk: anyone got the url handy? [2011-05-25 20::17:29] hashbury: what is the best source of shemale traffic fs, galleries, tubes? [2011-05-25 20::17:32] virgohippy: hiya BabyMaker [2011-05-25 20::17:35] PR_Tom: http://greenguyandjim.com:8000/.m3u [2011-05-25 20::17:36] BabyMaker: hey all :) [2011-05-25 20::17:49] pc: hi babymaker [2011-05-25 20::18:16] cd34: hey BabyMaker [2011-05-25 20::18:17] bDOk: thanx [2011-05-25 20::18:18] hashbury: Hi Babymaker and bDOk [2011-05-25 20::18:22] cd34: Tune into the Radio Show, http://greenguyandjim.com:8000/ [2011-05-25 20::18:35] BabyMaker: who is on the radio? [2011-05-25 20::18:38] bDOk: sup virgohippy, cd34, hashbury, plateman, pc everyone [2011-05-25 20::18:44] Cleo: Cleo and Foxy [2011-05-25 20::18:49] Simon: go postal on his ass [2011-05-25 20::18:54] bDOk: lol [2011-05-25 20::18:57] virgohippy: hehe [2011-05-25 20::19:05] pc: yeah leave a stamp [2011-05-25 20::19:13] plateman: LOL [2011-05-25 20::19:53] bDOk: traffic that gets sales. that's the best traffic [2011-05-25 20::20:01] hashbury: lol no kidding [2011-05-25 20::20:47] PR_Tom: try shemales in google and the others and see what ranks, capt obvious but it counts [2011-05-25 20::20:57] bDOk: ;) [2011-05-25 20::20:59] bDOk: obvi [2011-05-25 20::21:01] » SheepGuy joined the chat room. [2011-05-25 20::21:10] cd34: hey SheepGuy [2011-05-25 20::21:11] bDOk: SheepGuy: yo [2011-05-25 20::21:17] plateman: hi sheep [2011-05-25 20::21:19] Simon: hiya SG [2011-05-25 20::21:25] SheepGuy: hey everyone! [2011-05-25 20::21:25] virgohippy: hiya SheepGuy [2011-05-25 20::21:27] pc: hi SG [2011-05-25 20::21:28] meatpounder: hi bdok, babymaker, and sheepguy [2011-05-25 20::21:41] cd34: Tune into the Radio Show, http://greenguyandjim.com:8000/ [2011-05-25 20::21:41] PR_Tom: is someone playing with a whip? [2011-05-25 20::21:57] bDOk: hey meatpounder. [2011-05-25 20::22:12] Simon: popping gum maybe [2011-05-25 20::22:14] SheepGuy: sound is working good tonight! [2011-05-25 20::22:17] PR_Tom: oh, then it's just me, lol j/k [2011-05-25 20::22:20] bDOk: does foxy update every week? [2011-05-25 20::22:29] hashbury: Hi Sheep:) [2011-05-25 20::22:43] SheepGuy: heya Hash! [2011-05-25 20::22:44] meatpounder: So when is the hookup with buck angel coming? [2011-05-25 20::22:46] BabyMaker: brb fone [2011-05-25 20::22:50] » BabyMaker left the chat room. [2011-05-25 20::23:29] Simon: I always wondered what the child of Foxy and Buck would be like …. could make for a hell of a movie [2011-05-25 20::23:51] plateman: hehe [2011-05-25 20::24:35] Simon: PTA - Parent Trannys Association [2011-05-25 20::25:46] Simon: do you do 'after scene' interviews with the guys who bottom too? [2011-05-25 20::26:34] bDOk: lol [2011-05-25 20::26:35] PR_Tom: Thats a cool idea [2011-05-25 20::26:35] Simon: good evidence that they survived … and are happy :D [2011-05-25 20::26:46] plateman: I think cleo has done a stellar job in bringing foxy to the web:) [2011-05-25 20::26:57] pc: bye [2011-05-25 20::27:12] cd34: see ya pc [2011-05-25 20::27:23] » pc left the chat room. [2011-05-25 20::27:29] plateman: yup [2011-05-25 20::27:38] Cleo: Any other questions for Foxy? [2011-05-25 20::28:08] » NH joined the chat room. [2011-05-25 20::28:10] » bluebrit joined the chat room. [2011-05-25 20::28:20] cd34: great seeing you again FoxyAngel [2011-05-25 20::28:21] SheepGuy: heya NH, Les [2011-05-25 20::28:21] bluebrit: Hi folks [2011-05-25 20::28:23] meatpounder: bye foxy [2011-05-25 20::28:25] Simon: thanks for coming Foxy [2011-05-25 20::28:26] cd34: hey NH and bluebrit [2011-05-25 20::28:29] plateman: hey bluebrit [2011-05-25 20::28:31] bluebrit: Hi Dan [2011-05-25 20::28:32] NH: Hellooooo All [2011-05-25 20::28:40] » pc joined the chat room. [2011-05-25 20::28:41] virgohippy: hiya bluebrit [2011-05-25 20::28:43] bluebrit: Hello all :) [2011-05-25 20::28:44] virgohippy: hiya NH [2011-05-25 20::28:56] bluebrit: hiya Hippy [2011-05-25 20::29:02] NH: GO BRUINS! [2011-05-25 20::29:04] meatpounder: NH I thought you'd be watching the bruins [2011-05-25 20::29:09] pc: back :) [2011-05-25 20::29:10] SheepGuy: Yes!! [2011-05-25 20::29:10] NH: I Am [2011-05-25 20::29:12] meatpounder: lol [2011-05-25 20::29:21] bluebrit: hi pc, thanks for the help the other day [2011-05-25 20::29:25] SheepGuy: same here [2011-05-25 20::29:37] pc: hi BB, no problem, [2011-05-25 20::29:40] meatpounder: hi bluebrit [2011-05-25 20::29:41] NH: I Hoping They Can Close Out The Series Tonight In Tampa [2011-05-25 20::29:57] meatpounder: tied it up [2011-05-25 20::30:05] FoxyAngel: it was cool and fun [2011-05-25 20::30:09] FoxyAngel: thanks for having me [2011-05-25 20::30:17] NH: Yeah I Was Worried Gave Up A Goal Again In The 1st Min [2011-05-25 20::30:26] bluebrit: Damn i missed foxy. hello and goodbye lol [2011-05-25 20::30:34] meatpounder: Great having you break cleos cherry [2011-05-25 20::30:40] Cleo: It will be [ut up in the archive [2011-05-25 20::30:41] bluebrit: lol [2011-05-25 20::30:52] FoxyAngel: any chance I can get to bust here cherry [2011-05-25 20::31:01] bluebrit: ok cool and Hello Cleo btw. [2011-05-25 20::31:11] bluebrit: its good to see the show back [2011-05-25 20::31:19] SheepGuy: definitely [2011-05-25 20::31:43] SheepGuy: maybe more people will check into the chat room now as well [2011-05-25 20::31:44] Cleo: It's nice to be hosting it. Still getting my feet wet though. [2011-05-25 20::32:00] bluebrit: Its working and thats good enough for me [2011-05-25 20::32:05] virgohippy: SheepGuy, I've been lurking here since last week [2011-05-25 20::32:05] SheepGuy: fuck Facebook! [2011-05-25 20::32:09] meatpounder: chat sortof died after mml passed [2011-05-25 20::32:21] bluebrit: I'm looking forward to your hurricane from the basement shows lol [2011-05-25 20::32:21] Cleo: Facebook is a waste of time [2011-05-25 20::32:24] virgohippy: I still have a "donate to MML" in my sig [2011-05-25 20::32:31] SheepGuy: I've got to check in more as well Hippy [2011-05-25 20::32:40] PR_Tom: I clicked one of those sigs today and the domain is expired [2011-05-25 20::32:46] meatpounder: has anyone seen any traffic from facebook? [2011-05-25 20::32:53] cd34: we can hear you [2011-05-25 20::32:57] bluebrit: I dont even use fb to be honest [2011-05-25 20::33:02] meatpounder: back [2011-05-25 20::33:09] meatpounder: we can hear you [2011-05-25 20::33:11] PR_Tom: I have an account but never use it [2011-05-25 20::33:20] FoxyAngel: bye everyone [2011-05-25 20::33:24] Simon: I don't use Facebook … I blame Facebook [2011-05-25 20::33:31] FoxyAngel: by cleo good luck with your show [2011-05-25 20::33:32] virgohippy: I'm not surviving... I'm just slowly turning to dust [2011-05-25 20::33:35] bluebrit: Looking for work outside of porn and building building and building [2011-05-25 20::33:58] bDOk: Simon: i don't use facebook either. [2011-05-25 20::33:58] meatpounder: thank god I have my main stream (plus we are starting an affiliate program)....500 payouts [2011-05-25 20::34:02] SheepGuy: I've never done any biz on Facebook [2011-05-25 20::34:26] bDOk: meatpounder: buying low selling high [2011-05-25 20::34:26] plateman: well anyway I got into mainstream by building a transmission site for the shop owner where I rebuild at to fill in the gaps from adult and a friend who has a starter and alternator biz of 30 years knew he had to get something on the net and he came to me with an idea and I took it and went with it [2011-05-25 20::34:30] meatpounder: trading advisory service [2011-05-25 20::34:33] » FoxyAngel left the chat room. [2011-05-25 20::34:35] bluebrit: I just started an app store but its not yet setup [2011-05-25 20::34:46] Cleo: What are you doing in mainstream Meatpounder? [2011-05-25 20::34:52] meatpounder: russellsandsoriginalturtle.com [2011-05-25 20::35:05] hashbury: everybody is in mainstream now [2011-05-25 20::35:17] SheepGuy: not me so much, yet [2011-05-25 20::35:55] hashbury: it just seems like more opurtunity [2011-05-25 20::35:56] plateman: and small biz people people dont have that kind of money and we worked out a % and things are showing life [2011-05-25 20::36:02] virgohippy: I haven't had much success with mainstream, but I think I've been trying to sell the wrong stuff [2011-05-25 20::36:17] meatpounder: the batteries stop blowing up?...with the blus [2011-05-25 20::36:28] hashbury: I had ten failures before i had one sucess you just have to keep trying [2011-05-25 20::36:29] bluebrit: Good point virgo, there is so much choice its hard to decide what to try your hand at. [2011-05-25 20::36:31] plateman: just like porn you gotta find what they will buy [2011-05-25 20::36:36] PR_Tom: I've been wanting to start a blog or site just for things I'm into, and maybe get adsense on there [2011-05-25 20::36:39] SheepGuy: I've done a few quicky sites for local small businesses [2011-05-25 20::37:03] plateman: yup good sheep [2011-05-25 20::37:06] virgohippy: SheepGuy, me too [2011-05-25 20::37:36] meatpounder: bdok how are the stores working for you? [2011-05-25 20::37:40] SheepGuy: takes an hour or two to put together, not bad money for the time spent [2011-05-25 20::37:47] Cleo: I've been thinking of starting a kayaking blog since that is something I know and trying to sell kayaking gear. [2011-05-25 20::38:08] cd34: I think hdpro also has an affiliate program [2011-05-25 20::38:10] hashbury: did maj get you some good info cleo [2011-05-25 20::38:25] virgohippy: the hippy counter-culture doesn't do as much online buying as I'd like [2011-05-25 20::38:26] plateman: 3 times I was goona post and tell you that [2011-05-25 20::38:28] bluebrit: Thats a good idea where you are Cleo and you could take it further with snorkelling gear and maybe even advance from that [2011-05-25 20::38:34] virgohippy: something about not wanting material posseions, or some other non-sense [2011-05-25 20::38:36] bDOk: meatpounder: decent. I just have decent email list of people that want black booty porn. [2011-05-25 20::38:38] PR_Tom: Cleo same here, differnt hobbies/interests I might think of 1 thing to say per day on [2011-05-25 20::38:38] Cleo: I haven't really gone through any of it yet [2011-05-25 20::38:40] virgohippy: unamerican! =P [2011-05-25 20::38:48] meatpounder: thats just it, you can always sell what you really believe in, we all have our hobbies and the web know how [2011-05-25 20::38:49] bDOk: meatpounder: return customers...etc. [2011-05-25 20::38:52] cd34: http://gopro.com/affiliate-program/ http://gopro.com/cameras/hd-surf-hero-camera/ [2011-05-25 20::39:13] bDOk: meatpounder: just requires always updating. I've been meaning to put together some more shit for these customers. I've been lazy with other ventures. [2011-05-25 20::39:15] cd34: some of their videos are incredible [2011-05-25 20::39:41] bDOk: meatpounder: i guess not lazy. Just had some easy coding fall in my lap... bird in hand... [2011-05-25 20::39:54] meatpounder: hey bdok, if it pays the bill /;0 [2011-05-25 20::39:56] PR_Tom: If you could get popular on youtube, it'd be a good mainstream boost. [2011-05-25 20::40:03] plateman: http://www.alternatorstarterrebuildkits.com/ [2011-05-25 20::40:17] NH: I Told My Woman Were Gonna Start Making Home Porn To Pay The Bills HA! [2011-05-25 20::40:23] Cleo: I looked at that camera. It costs more than the one I own and isn't as good so I would have a had time selling something that I didn't believe in. [2011-05-25 20::40:39] Cleo: But it has great promo [2011-05-25 20::40:53] virgohippy: Cleo, I'm starting to believe more in the power of selling convenience [2011-05-25 20::40:53] meatpounder: heck murrays auto parts took him away from porn...he had no time [2011-05-25 20::40:56] plateman: the backend is about done with having a members area where you can access to the vids when you buy a kit [2011-05-25 20::40:57] SheepGuy: I can talk myself into believing just about anything ;) [2011-05-25 20::41:04] virgohippy: it's not always the price for everyone [2011-05-25 20::41:17] bDOk: i just need to build more networks. The new networks I've been working on are looking good. I just need to scale them up. [2011-05-25 20::41:26] Cleo: True I sell porn that half the time I don't get [2011-05-25 20::41:59] cd34: Cleo, which do you have? for $300 including multiple mounts, it seemed decent for a rugged HD camera with a waterproof enclosure [2011-05-25 20::42:05] bDOk: brb [2011-05-25 20::42:40] SheepGuy: I was in face to face sales for years, I believed in whatever had the highest commission [2011-05-25 20::42:47] plateman: meat I bet but I still am gonna stay in porn [2011-05-25 20::42:48] pc: damn, my neighbour is kiiling me tonight, back in 5 [2011-05-25 20::43:20] cd34: so they schedule murders in NJ? that is very nice of them [2011-05-25 20::43:22] NH: lol Yeah I Was Selling Rainbow Vacuums Also Good Loot When People Had Money [2011-05-25 20::43:28] bDOk: had to put the burgers on the grill... need to eat before bowling in a few. :) [2011-05-25 20::43:39] Simon: NJ's been doing that a loooog time :D [2011-05-25 20::43:41] plateman: hi NH [2011-05-25 20::43:45] Cleo: I have the Panasonic Lumix DMC-TS2. Paid around 300 for it [2011-05-25 20::43:51] NH: Hiya plateman [2011-05-25 20::43:52] cd34: Simon, never knew them to be that polite about it though [2011-05-25 20::44:16] virgohippy: in mainstream, do we wan't them to keep coming back? [2011-05-25 20::44:31] Simon: yeah, what's the world coming to when Jersey gets all polite and shit [2011-05-25 20::44:34] virgohippy: how do we do that? In porn it's easy... just wait for 'em to get horny again. =P [2011-05-25 20::44:46] cd34: but the DMC-TS2 isn't HD is it? Thought it was only SD [2011-05-25 20::44:54] Cleo: Yes it is [2011-05-25 20::44:56] PR_Tom: If you have a message board or blog about something you are passionate about, they'll come to read [2011-05-25 20::44:57] SheepGuy: Boston! [2011-05-25 20::45:00] bluebrit: in mainstream you sell something that has updates or upgrades and you become the go to person [2011-05-25 20::45:10] Simon: VH … that's why you *must* build a list [2011-05-25 20::45:10] meatpounder: goal [2011-05-25 20::45:13] NH: GOAAALLLL! [2011-05-25 20::45:29] cd34: now all I need to do is have a reason to video something haha [2011-05-25 20::45:37] bDOk: virgohippy: The idea I've been tossing around is if you are building an information site... Talking about some type of tech for example. You just keep updating with relevant links. [2011-05-25 20::45:42] Cleo: DMC-TS1 was only SD but the DMC-TS2 is HD and now has been replaced by the DMC-TS3 [2011-05-25 20::45:55] SheepGuy: I've been looking into selling seeds a bit [2011-05-25 20::45:57] virgohippy: not much different then a no-recip link list then, eh? [2011-05-25 20::46:04] hashbury: weed seeds? [2011-05-25 20::46:11] SheepGuy: of course [2011-05-25 20::46:17] pc: back again [2011-05-25 20::46:19] virgohippy: I'll get in on that too Sheepy [2011-05-25 20::46:21] virgohippy: =D [2011-05-25 20::46:29] PR_Tom: I am into gardening and brewing beer and other things and am always looking around online and landing on peoples sites [2011-05-25 20::46:29] bDOk: virgohippy: like talking about some flavor of linux... or about macs... you have like reviews of programs... tutorials on stuff. your experience with x and y giving pros and cons. [2011-05-25 20::46:30] virgohippy: believes [2011-05-25 20::46:41] SheepGuy: I've got a local buddy who can supply them [2011-05-25 20::46:52] meatpounder: wonder how xxxjay made out with his pot clinics [2011-05-25 20::46:59] plateman: there you go [2011-05-25 20::46:59] virgohippy: I know the right affiliate program to promote. ;-) [2011-05-25 20::47:00] bDOk: virgohippy: then most liekly you get advertisers.. once you can show page views. [2011-05-25 20::47:01] pc: my song, hurray [2011-05-25 20::47:13] bluebrit: Two things that would sell really well if we had a chemist amongst us... something eco friendly to kill dandelions and something to kill carpenter ants. in fact the carpenter ant killer is unknown and the patent would be worth millions lol [2011-05-25 20::47:32] meatpounder: DDT [2011-05-25 20::47:38] bDOk: i have friends that grow in california and sell to the medical mj places... making nice money. [2011-05-25 20::47:40] Cleo: Trouble with being in the weed biz is that annoying federal gov thing. [2011-05-25 20::47:40] virgohippy: bluebrit, I have some hippy-friendly, organic stuff that works well [2011-05-25 20::47:59] virgohippy: doesn't want to get into the weed biz [2011-05-25 20::48:00] bluebrit: lmao if i wanted to smoke them out i could arrange that myself [2011-05-25 20::48:03] SheepGuy: it's not a big problem in Canada for seeds [2011-05-25 20::48:11] virgohippy: not directly, anyway [2011-05-25 20::48:29] hashbury: i use to order seed from dr chronic [2011-05-25 20::49:00] hashbury: think in the uk somewhere [2011-05-25 20::49:12] PR_Tom: be nice to be able to promote things that are advertised a lot already and capture some SE traffic looking for them [2011-05-25 20::49:14] hashbury: the street address was 420 high st [2011-05-25 20::49:14] virgohippy: diatomaceous earth + neem oil <--- my bug killing recipe [2011-05-25 20::49:15] bluebrit: i just went through 5 gallons of weed b gon on the grass... that cost $175 so there is a lot of money to be made [2011-05-25 20::49:38] meatpounder: rules rules rules [2011-05-25 20::49:40] Simon: naah… it's a traffic problem [2011-05-25 20::49:41] hashbury: if we want submits we need traffic "I think" [2011-05-25 20::49:42] bluebrit: say that again cleo i missed what you asked [2011-05-25 20::49:44] virgohippy: I think once the LL's show up in the SERPs the submits will come back [2011-05-25 20::49:49] hashbury: or [2011-05-25 20::49:51] SheepGuy: I'm ok with the submits I get [2011-05-25 20::49:52] virgohippy: yep [2011-05-25 20::49:57] hashbury: atleast high quality traffic [2011-05-25 20::49:59] NH: my cheesy list has decent submits nothing on you guys level though [2011-05-25 20::50:00] meatpounder: everyone got sick of the rules [2011-05-25 20::50:01] Simon: if LLs had more traffic they could do whatever they wanted [2011-05-25 20::50:02] Cleo: LLs how to get more suvbmits? [2011-05-25 20::50:14] Cleo: suvbmits= submits [2011-05-25 20::50:22] meatpounder: how do we get builders back? [2011-05-25 20::50:27] bluebrit: ok [2011-05-25 20::50:29] bDOk: virgohippy: I think that has something to do with it. [2011-05-25 20::50:36] SheepGuy: submits don't automatically mean more $$ [2011-05-25 20::50:39] Simon: get more traffic and builders will follow [2011-05-25 20::50:49] pc: build linklist with relaxed rules [2011-05-25 20::50:51] hashbury: Thats why i stopped submitting, not enough traffic to make decent sales on my fs [2011-05-25 20::51:02] hashbury: the rules are relaxed [2011-05-25 20::51:06] virgohippy: how do newbies even get into the business, anyway? [2011-05-25 20::51:09] hashbury: that is the questiopn [2011-05-25 20::51:09] bluebrit: basically the trick is to get the LL back to the top of the search engines. Topping tube based sites is the hard trick. if you can figure that you will get traffic [2011-05-25 20::51:10] SheepGuy: that's the problem [2011-05-25 20::51:12] Simon: too much work for the return unless you're submitting to high traffic sites [2011-05-25 20::51:21] virgohippy: do they follow the webmaster links, and figure it out? [2011-05-25 20::51:37] bluebrit: It is possible but its hard to get top listings [2011-05-25 20::51:48] hashbury: The only way we are going to get back to the top of the search engines is by changing the recip link rules [2011-05-25 20::51:51] meatpounder: Too many linklists look like link farms to google [2011-05-25 20::51:53] plateman: well after the crash in adult most thought IMO that you needed tubes tubes and more tubes and start a traffic race and most webmasters forgot about us [2011-05-25 20::51:59] Cleo: How many of you are still doing TGP submits? [2011-05-25 20::52:00] meatpounder: I do [2011-05-25 20::52:04] virgohippy: I'm not seeing the same response (from the SEs) I used to... [2011-05-25 20::52:24] Simon: I do very few submits anymore … only to a few places and not regularly [2011-05-25 20::52:27] bluebrit: I dont do tgp and i rarely do fs now [2011-05-25 20::52:28] pc: I did all winter, now don't have time [2011-05-25 20::52:29] SheepGuy: what's been working for me somewhat is asking new submitters to link to the category page, less seo competition there [2011-05-25 20::52:37] Cleo: MY traffic has increased since the Panada update [2011-05-25 20::52:42] bDOk: Cleo: I do submits to just a couple large tgps that convert... paid submits... then thehun I just use freehosting from sponsors and just submit like clock work. Last year it got me an extra 1k just from thehun for rebills and sales. [2011-05-25 20::52:49] hashbury: its all in the backlinks, that why the tubes are so high in the serps [2011-05-25 20::52:58] meatpounder: link lists are link farms by definition, then add all the trades and the sites are devalued more [2011-05-25 20::53:01] » bDOk left the chat room. [2011-05-25 20::53:22] Simon: I'm working more with purchasing traffic … I can use my time better that way. [2011-05-25 20::53:36] hashbury: everyone embeds their videos all over the place not to mention every noob that makes a tube site and uses scraping software to embed pornhub and redtube videos [2011-05-25 20::54:16] hashbury: we need to get a way to get links coming in but not going out [2011-05-25 20::54:16] PR_Tom: There are a lot of tube sites out there like that [2011-05-25 20::54:32] hashbury: not a lot but thousands if not more lol [2011-05-25 20::54:36] bluebrit: lets face it, it will never be the same so we have to move forward and that means being creative. If i had a game plan for that i would be doing it now [2011-05-25 20::54:37] PR_Tom: link to the sites through a script [2011-05-25 20::54:43] virgohippy: I like the idea of a freesite that: links to the root of it's own domain, the root page links to the LL [2011-05-25 20::54:58] plateman: soon as I get caught up with video work its back to building FS and galls [2011-05-25 20::55:04] virgohippy: what about building bigger freesites? [2011-05-25 20::55:06] virgohippy: more pages? [2011-05-25 20::55:31] hashbury: it might help the fs in the serps but its not going to help any ll virgo [2011-05-25 20::55:34] bluebrit: would that really work though? Your just adding more pages and making even more content free [2011-05-25 20::55:36] PR_Tom: why not let the sky be the limit on image sizes for example? [2011-05-25 20::55:37] pc: like hubs ? with tags and subcategories [2011-05-25 20::55:52] virgohippy: yeah, more deep pages [2011-05-25 20::55:56] virgohippy: more relevant content [2011-05-25 20::56:06] SheepGuy: that could work [2011-05-25 20::56:08] virgohippy: I don't care about volume for backlinks, it's all about quality [2011-05-25 20::56:22] PR_Tom: how do you figure quality? [2011-05-25 20::56:30] Simon: need to think about looking outside the LL circle for more traffic …. if all LL owners do is hard link trades and build and submit to each other it's one massive circle of decreasing traffic [2011-05-25 20::56:32] virgohippy: relevance, if the page link-from ranks well [2011-05-25 20::56:32] NH: according to juicyads some of these top sites have over 3 million pages [2011-05-25 20::56:35] SheepGuy: maybe a ll that only took fs's with 50+ images [2011-05-25 20::56:47] virgohippy: if the link-from page only links to the link-to once [2011-05-25 20::56:48] bluebrit: Agreed Simon [2011-05-25 20::56:55] PR_Tom: so you try to define your own site in a certain few words and then go after links from like-sites [2011-05-25 20::57:17] Cleo: I don't see how giving away even more content is going to help. [2011-05-25 20::57:21] Simon: I use JuicyAds to drive some traffic where I want it …. if you know how you can get millions of ad impressions for very cheap [2011-05-25 20::57:33] virgohippy: not more content... maybe just organized different [2011-05-25 20::57:36] bluebrit: Nor do i. Don't they have too much free stuff already? [2011-05-25 20::57:40] pc: Simon, I saw your ad on pervspace :) [2011-05-25 20::57:43] hashbury: short of black hat stuff its going to be hard to get back up in the serps without finding a way to make ll as popular as tubes [2011-05-25 20::57:48] virgohippy: 24 pic on two pages... or 4 [2011-05-25 20::58:15] Cleo: I think that is the major problem. We are competing against Google images. [2011-05-25 20::58:18] meatpounder: one big circle jer simon...every submit is and a-a trade you link to the freesite and the freesite links back to you [2011-05-25 20::58:25] Simon: PC … I have ads running across a ton of sites now [2011-05-25 20::58:27] virgohippy: Cleo, good point [2011-05-25 20::58:42] bluebrit: Trouble is se's are becoming more and more visually based so it may be that LL will have to start adding images to the pages beside the links. that is something i am seriously consdiering now I have to rebuild blue-candy [2011-05-25 20::58:58] meatpounder: tubes are offering CONTENT...link list offers a link trade [2011-05-25 20::58:59] Simon: and by the way…. fuck the SERPs too [2011-05-25 20::59:01] » plateman left the chat room. [2011-05-25 20::59:07] hashbury: simplifing the procces of building a freesite would help get more submitters [2011-05-25 20::59:08] bluebrit: in fact that option is going to be a definite. i just decided [2011-05-25 20::59:13] PR_Tom: yeah true bluebrit, try asking an se for a porn term and 9 out of 10 sites will be all thumbs on the first page [2011-05-25 20::59:14] Cleo: Who needs TGPs even. Just do image searches on Google and get millions of pics with no ads. [2011-05-25 20::59:20] pc: BB, if you converting to LinkX, and want pictures, I can help you [2011-05-25 20::59:21] SheepGuy: how about if the submitter links to Slut Masters for a link back from Cunt Masters? [2011-05-25 20::59:27] » plateman joined the chat room. [2011-05-25 20::59:38] bluebrit: Correct Tom. You can get more out of one image than ten sentences [2011-05-25 20::59:54] plateman: sorry folks dam power went out for a sec [2011-05-25 20::59:55] hashbury: I was really wanting to build a wp pluging that would help speed the proccess up of building fs [2011-05-25 21::00:04] bluebrit: Thanks pc. Thats exactly what i am doing. [2011-05-25 21::00:22] pc: well, if you need anything PM me [2011-05-25 21::00:29] hashbury: PC I will get back to you on that pm later tomorrow [2011-05-25 21::00:37] PR_Tom: I think if thats what you see in the se's, then thats what the se's want, and the se's have traffic we want, so it's their game [2011-05-25 21::00:41] meatpounder: nice maiden show cleo, nice hearing from foxy [2011-05-25 21::00:43] bluebrit: Hey how is your php for templates? I am looking to maybe put the menu links down either side and have my main links down the middle. Jeremy says it can't be done. [2011-05-25 21::00:47] pc: cool hash, take your time [2011-05-25 21::01:04] Cleo: Thanks [2011-05-25 21::01:06] bluebrit: Ok PC will do [2011-05-25 21::01:19] bluebrit: TY Cleo it was good to catch up with everyone again [2011-05-25 21::01:23] hashbury: very good show cleo [2011-05-25 21::01:41] cd34: good show Cleo... 'til next week! :) [2011-05-25 21::01:42] SheepGuy: thanks again Cleo for stpping up for this! [2011-05-25 21::01:48] plateman: yes networking 101 [2011-05-25 21::01:49] pc: bb, with linkx I'm your man, pm your tpl code, i try to work it out your way [2011-05-25 21::01:49] virgohippy: TY Cleo [2011-05-25 21::01:55] PR_Tom: cool show Cleo, was nice hanging out for a while with everyone, see you all later [2011-05-25 21::02:04] Simon: good show Cleo … glad you picked up this gauntlet [2011-05-25 21::02:05] pc: Cleo, thx for the show [2011-05-25 21::02:08] Cleo: Thanks everyone for coming. :) I'm out of here. [2011-05-25 21::02:09] » PR_Tom left the chat room. [2011-05-25 21::02:21] Simon: out here too … later all [2011-05-25 21::02:27] NH: Thanks Cleo! Go BRUINS! [2011-05-25 21::02:32] SheepGuy: back to work/hockey catch yas later [2011-05-25 21::02:34] » Simon left the chat room. [2011-05-25 21::02:35] plateman: thanks a see you guys and girls next time [2011-05-25 21::02:39] » NH left the chat room. [2011-05-25 21::02:42] » SheepGuy left the chat room. [2011-05-25 21::02:45] » plateman left the chat room. [2011-05-25 21::02:48] meatpounder: go bruins [2011-05-25 21::02:54] » meatpounder left the chat room. [2011-05-25 21::02:57] bluebrit: Ok bear with me though, I am not ready tonight. i will pm you and I may have a job if you are interested in a little extra coding. I'll put the details on a pm tomorrow.