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Old 2005-02-10, 10:35 AM   #276
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I can't believe the bogus members he put in by hand to swindle webmasters and advertisers are now being blamed on others. I would suspect the others are us. Now it gets personal.
http://www.sponsorchat.com/showthread.php?t=3053
This dishonest cocksucker has to stop shifting blame and confess that he tried to screw everyone or it will never stop.

Note: This message was mostly for him.
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Old 2005-02-10, 11:13 AM   #277
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It's funny that he uses the term 'unscrupulous people' to describe anyone but himself ! And yep, I think he may have been refering to you two, I would take it personal..GO GET EM!
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Old 2005-02-10, 11:35 AM   #278
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I believe he is a cheat but I think maybe some of his few members may have made up some of those picked out of the blue members to cheat there pay 10 cents per post deal, I wonder how often those bogus members posted..

And No mater what is proved or said this butcher guy will never admit to cheating and scamming because he has a lot to loose like being sued over the ad money he charged for and loosing his name and the board and being finished in the adult biz... And you would think before the sponsors over there paid for ad spots they would look at the members list..
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Old 2005-02-10, 11:52 AM   #279
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If I'd have signed up those 7000 members, I would have at least gave them semi-legit names & birthdays
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Old 2005-02-10, 02:57 PM   #280
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I still wait for some sort of comment from Fantasyman over this.

I suspect strongly this guy has scammed him.

also.....

Houses in different parts of the world.So claimed Steve Goldman
He likes benzes /Steve Goldman loved Jags
Wife and 2 kids/Wife and 3 kids
Hosted in the same manner
Grandiose claims of 3600 domains...
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Old 2005-02-10, 04:17 PM   #281
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is the Ask FantasyMan forum still there? wonder if FM knew all along that the bitch-er is a scammer?

some more facts:

Offices in Canada & London same with Steve
they both have a bad temper
they both uses "dave" as aliases

you quoted this Nick at oprano
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"""He is a little under the average height, wears glasses, balding, not fat, but a little on the pudgy side and has an english accent..
Drives nothing but Jags, has 2 kids and a wife.. """""
so both of them has wife & 2 kids.
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Old 2005-02-10, 04:19 PM   #282
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He so reminds me of AWT/Ken/and other aliases.....but, it's just a feeling...no proof.
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Old 2005-02-10, 05:18 PM   #283
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He so reminds me of AWT/Ken/and other aliases.....but, it's just a feeling...no proof.
Women's Intuition.....are we EVER wrong Mine tells me that the walls will come crashing down soon on the butcher shop
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Old 2005-02-10, 06:49 PM   #284
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I can say with about 100% accuracy that The Butcher is nobody that has been mentioned. I don't think anyone has ever heard from him before Sponsorchat.
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Old 2005-02-10, 10:34 PM   #285
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I can say with about 100% accuracy that The Butcher is nobody that has been mentioned. I don't think anyone has ever heard from him before Sponsorchat.
Thinking about this...I guess I could be wrong. But I would bet money that I am not.

Believe it or not but I was just accused by PM as being paid off by Goldman for saying the above statement. I really did't think I needed to tell anyone but, my integrity is not for sale.

But, just to be safe, I will say...I could be wrong
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Old 2005-02-10, 10:38 PM   #286
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He so reminds me of AWT/Ken/and other aliases.....but, it's just a feeling...no proof.
I'm right there with you. Thinking it's our old pal 'Kurt Fees' again. I've been waiting for him to wig out and start posting here under multiple aliases and speaking in ebonics. Damn, I miss the nut.
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Old 2005-02-10, 11:19 PM   #287
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...Believe it or not but I was just accused by PM as being paid off by Goldman for saying the above statement...
Why the fuck would you care what some fucktard monkey that joined the board 5 minutes before he sent you the PM thinks about you.

Fuck - I'll call him out here & now:

Hey sonyposter ! When you grow a set of balls & decide to register with something other than an yahoo email address & fill out some info like a website & actually post on the board, your opinion of Jim or mean means about as much as this piece of dog shit stuck to the bottom of my shoe.

Don't hide behind what is basically an anonymous message - post so everyone knows you who are or shut the fuck up.
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Old 2005-02-11, 01:37 AM   #288
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I guess I was a tad dissapointed to see what I thought was a high profile sponsor, sponsoring that board.

I actually signed up to the board... really wanted to defend Urb (one of the most genuine and honest people I have ever met in this business)

I had only made one post when I saw somones post had been deleted... a poster here... and certainly a person's opinion who shouldnt be deleted. when I questioned the deletion I was told it was either illegal or (hmmm cant think of the other thing) and I was advised if I wanted to hang at boards like "that" the moderator would send me a list.

Doesnt sound like a board that wants me and I have pretty much said nothing. But I am certainly not impressed by any sponsor that supports it... I am sure that no sponsor will hope to gain good business from that board.
Well, we dont really care much about politics in this industry, drama or who owns or runs a board...we just see see opportunity for marketing purpose only and so we take it...
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Old 2005-02-11, 02:32 AM   #289
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I'm right there with you. Thinking it's our old pal 'Kurt Fees' again. I've been waiting for him to wig out and start posting here under multiple aliases and speaking in ebonics. Damn, I miss the nut.
I don't miss him at all. But, even though the Butcher reminds me of Ken...and there are some locale similarities and domain similarities...when Ken would get bent out of shape, his spelling would deteriorate....more so than this guy....
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Old 2005-02-11, 03:17 AM   #290
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Why the fuck would you care what some fucktard monkey that joined the board 5 minutes before he sent you the PM thinks about you.

Fuck - I'll call him out here & now:

Hey sonyposter ! When you grow a set of balls & decide to register with something other than an yahoo email address & fill out some info like a website & actually post on the board, your opinion of Jim or mean means about as much as this piece of dog shit stuck to the bottom of my shoe.

Don't hide behind what is basically an anonymous message - post so everyone knows you who are or shut the fuck up.
Yep, you are right Greenie. I never looked at the guy's emal. But, here is my pm I got from him.

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Let me ask you how much did you get paid from dave thebutcher to cover him. In your last reply you say and I quote "I can say with about 100% accuracy that The Butcher is nobody that has been mentioned. I don't think anyone has ever heard from him before Sponsorchat." .

It has been proved many times he is Steve Goldman on oprano, gfy, etc the famous con artist from Canada. I would have never believe he will buy JIM and GreenGuy out. You were among the last honest guys in the industry but I guess I was wrong.

Also even that it does not matter now but his member list all fake and made by himself only. All the fake members don't have any icon for email address. That means the email field is blank. That could not happen with a normal "register" member as the script asks for an email , the field cannot be blank. The only way to overwrite that script is to create all those members from your ADMIN area in the BBS script and this way the members are created with the email field blank. Try it on your own board to see. So all this story that somebody else created the members is another of his scams, but probably you already knew that and that's why Goldman decided to buy you out and shut up. Also if he is not Goldman why doesn't he give out his office address and phone number so people that got screwed by Goldman could visit him and see who he really is. Why hide if he claims he did not scam anybody?


Good luck but everybody is very disappointed and we hope you will change your stand on this matter.
and...after I told him fuck you, you don't know what you are talking about.
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Jim, I WAS SAYING THAT HE IS BULLSHITING YOU AGAIN. I said that he does all his fake members from his own admin. The accusation he made that you did it for him to discredit his site is plain false, as you could not have done it. He did it himself to fool advertisers to pay him money and webmasters to look as an active place and guess what everybody wants to chat on an active board supposedly like sponsorchat but not on a quality board like greenguysboard.com . That's how he steals members from you and other boards fooling webmasters how active his board is with his fake self made members to increase counters!

About being Goldman or not, it is clearly his company and patterns and business. And way of doing things. You want more details ask Adultwebmasterinfo members that exposed his scams and his other previous 3 boards he run the same way. If you talked to him let us know his phone number and address and people that are owed money by goldman will either certify it or apologize to him if is not him. I am 100% sure is him and many people certify once they see him. You talked over the phone with him and because of that you could say is not Goldman, anybody could change his accent over the phone very easily. If he is that innocent he has to post his real info.

And from the outside it really looks like you have been paid by him to leave him alone. You had all the proof he is a scammer and you let him go all of a sudden after talking to him on the phone. He took you for a fool, he stole you members, he put down your board and members and now he is your friend.
This moron gets all this from me saying I was almost sure the guy was not anyone named Goldman.
WTF?
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Old 2005-02-11, 06:29 AM   #291
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Well - if anyone wants to contact this guy - here's his info that I got some time ago - best I can tell his real name is Dave

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I love how this ass clown thinks Jim and I took a bribe of some sort - hell, I like money, but this is an insult!

What have we posted since the phone call? Jim thinks that TheButcher is not one of the many, many names that have been thrown around & we said that he's gonna be on the Radio Show on Tuesday to clear things up.

That's probably worth $1 - I wonder if PayPal considers that an "adult" transaction

So sonyposter - post in public & speak your mind or shut the fuck up, you anonymous cock sucking money fucktard!
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Old 2005-02-11, 09:04 AM   #293
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Well - if anyone wants to contact this guy - here's his info that I got some time ago - best I can tell his real name is Dave

NorthField Ventures Limited
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02082018998 phone

didnt one of the board mentioned that this info is also fake? maybe the guys name is really dave and hiding from different aliases
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I love how this ass clown thinks Jim and I took a bribe of some sort - hell, I like money, but this is an insult!

What have we posted since the phone call? Jim thinks that TheButcher is not one of the many, many names that have been thrown around & we said that he's gonna be on the Radio Show on Tuesday to clear things up.

That's probably worth $1 - I wonder if PayPal considers that an "adult" transaction

So sonyposter - post in public & speak your mind or shut the fuck up, you anonymous cock sucking money fucktard!
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Old 2005-02-11, 10:08 AM   #295
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Old 2005-02-11, 10:11 AM   #296
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lets see, at .10 per post, you are in debt eleventy million kiss-ass posts to The Butcher
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Old 2005-02-12, 04:44 PM   #297
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Yep, you are right Greenie. I never looked at the guy's emal. But, here is my pm I got from him.


and...after I told him fuck you, you don't know what you are talking about.

This moron gets all this from me saying I was almost sure the guy was not anyone named Goldman.
WTF?
Definately reminds me of a feminine ass wipe
something about this seems famliar to me

I hate people that hide behind fake emails
too Jim why do that if they believe what they are saying?
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Old 2005-02-13, 03:51 PM   #298
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I just visited their board. I haven't really paid much attention to the controversy. Within five minutes I've found:

A member using a keyword as their name which sould be banned
A bunch of sponsors I'll probably distance myself from
A few shady fuckers I would never deal with

I don't believe the stories about people offering money to buy SC. Those rumors probably materialized to create a false worth for SC.

I think we have a rogue nation of webmasters festering there.
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I just visited their board. I haven't really paid much attention to the controversy. Within five minutes I've found:

A member using a keyword as their name which sould be banned
A bunch of sponsors I'll probably distance myself from
A few shady fuckers I would never deal with

I don't believe the stories about people offering money to buy SC. Those rumors probably materialized to create a false worth for SC.

I think we have a rogue nation of webmasters festering there.
Well, i am sure you didnt fail to notice we AdultLounge.com sponsored their board and skinned it...and it was simply because

a) it was a good price
b) just another board to us
c) we dont get into much of the politics or drama

Just to clarify, we dont personally know who runs it ( i believe its a gentlemen names Dave ) also i would encourage you to ask ANYONE in this industry about me and AdultLounge.coim
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