Questions about Dee Cash Programs

[nickbaauw]

Now about ratio's and such... for anyone on greenguysboard.. or off please contact me and lets make it all work...

Tam will post shortly our top converting programs and retaining programs for the revshare promotors..

[Tam]

Lists of Programs Updating With Ratios:
Archive Cash
Top Converting Sites:
Asses on the Job
Real Celeb Hunters
Chubby Cheaters
Real Hooker Pickups
Celebrity Mixup
Redneck Confessions

Boyfriend Bucks
Top converting sites:
GangstaBfs: 1:183!
RippedBfs: 1:217
HungBlackBfs: 1:243
DaddyBfs: 1:268
HungBFs: 1:292
BearBfs: 1:304
Barebackedbfs: 1:316
BlackTwinkBfs: 1:330

Elite Dollars
Top Sites By Ratios
Ass Licking Club 1:209
All Elite Pass 1:220
Banned Celebs 1:269
GoGoCeleb 1:314
Sistas in The Hood 1:572

GFKings
Top converting sites:
NNexGfs: 1/283
TeenieBlackGirls: 1/319
BlackLesbianGfs: 1/344
RealEmoGirls: 1/375
CumCoveredGfs: 1/389
InterracialTeenGfs: 1/407
CollegeTrueLife: 1/431

GFProfits
Top converting sites:
RealTeenieGFs.com, 1/301!!!
BlackTeenGirlFriends.com, 1/337!!!
DaddysLittleGf.com, 1/392!!!
RealGfAss.com, 1/419!!!

Gay Gravy
Our Top Converting Sites
Bears Fuck Boys - 1:254
Gay Gravy - 1:304
Real Male Sex Scandals - 1:366
Asian Boys In Pain - 1:401
Thugs On White Boys - 1:449
Thugs on Twinks - 1:462
Brazil Bus 1:235

Gay Pay
Top converting sites:
Twink Access, 1/173!!!
Cum Into My Ass, 1/219!
Twink Fuck Fest, 1/276!
Licking Boys, 1/311!
Pop Boys, 1/345
Milk Squirting Boys, 1/388!
Twinks Filled With Cum, 1/394


Meat Cash
Top converting sites:
MeatMembers.com, 1/291
FuckdUpFantasy.com, 1/320
TeaseItOut.com, 1/338
FuckedUpHentai.com, 1/391
MidNightProwl.com, 1/411
SquirtBukkake.com, 1/417
CatFightGangBang.com, 1/436
AnalLickFest.com, 1/442
FuckedUpFacials.com, 1/473
AllCelebPass.com, 1/501


Rage Cash
Top converting sites:
RileyRebel.com (Non Nude) - 1/91!!!!
CamWithAstarte.com - 1/117!!
ExposedTeenTube.com - 1/185!
PervNetwork.com - 1/223
TeenieBlackGirlfriends.com - 1/279
CamWithAngel.com 1/296
EmoTeenSluts.com - 1/327
GFPass.com - 1/388
MegaTrannyPass.com - 1/466


Rehab Dollars
Top converting sites:
BlackCelebsOnly.com 1:200!
CelebsOnly.com 1:382
TwinkCelebsOnly.com 1:404

Tranny Pay
Top converting sites:
AllTrannyPass.com, 1/187!
ShemaleGulpers.com, 1/223
TrannySports.com, 1/242
YoungAsianTrannies.com, 1/266
TrannyOffice.com, 1/325
ShemaleJobs.com, 1/388
BangedByTrannies.com, 1/403
RealTrannyPickUps.com, 1/417

TripleXCash
Top converting sites:
CollegeFuckFest.com 1:325!
Radgasm.com: 1:369
Nipporn.com 1:401

That is what I believe to be an accurate list - Nick can come and correct me if I am wrong..

[Greenguy]

Can I go one step deeper & ask about retention? If the site isn't being updated, we may make a sale off a good tour, but then they cancel before they rebill.

[The Epic]

Hey thanks to Tam and Nick for responding to a few problems that people have mentioned.

I have been a member of Mayors Money since I started in the biz about a year ago and I was just wondering if you have any plans for expanding this program or adding content to some other of your programs. Really looking forward to seeing a list of your most updated promo tools for your programs.

[nickbaauw]

Originally Posted by Greenie

Can I go one step deeper & ask about retention? If the site isn't being updated, we may make a sale off a good tour, but then they cancel before they rebill.

Hey greenie,

Some sites are just not worth updating with exclusive scenes based on the amount of fresh daily joins coming in...

Yet, if a new member signs up to any site we give them access to a membersarea with 40-50+ exclusive sites

Based on your traffic/sites I will be able to recommend you either to use PPS or revshare on any of our products

At the end of the day I want affiliates to make more money this way we will be able to gain more of your business & long term relationships

[nickbaauw]

Originally Posted by The Epic

Hey thanks to Tam and Nick for responding to a few problems that people have mentioned.

I have been a member of Mayors Money since I started in the biz about a year ago and I was just wondering if you have any plans for expanding this program or adding content to some other of your programs. Really looking forward to seeing a list of your most updated promo tools for your programs.

Hey The Epic,

Our pleasure being here and answering questions.. just realized I should spend more time here

As for mayorsmoney's sites.. Unfortunately Brook Skye moved on and did some hardcore scenes all around and left the business so unfortunately I dont think we'll ever be able to shoot her again... by now I would assume we could call her Brook Milf

Kat Young we were able to shoot for the last time last year... she moved on as well.. .

Ibangpornstars.com the guy who was shooting that site messed things up business wise and moved on as well..

Thats basically it for the top converting sites there
Very unfortunate but to be honest out of our hands...

What kind of traffic do you have? I would assume solo girls?

[Buncha]

Hey Nick and Tam. Glad to see you guys here. As I said, the Dee reps are always nice and helpful. It's good to see sponsors that take an interest in affiliate opinions.

As others have mentioned, I'd love to see Dee combine payments. Maybe a simple backend where all the individual program stats are listed and one check is issued for the entire Dee network. Kinda like how CCBill handles things.

I have sales lingering at a couple Dee programs. Two or three, here and there. But not enough to generate a check at those sites. And that's frustrating. I would promote Dee sites more frequently, and try promoting new sites, if I knew every single sale would be combined so I could get paid.

I also think it would help if some of the tours were tweaked. I'm not talking about a total re-design. But some of the tours (like Movie Profits) have dates on them. And potential customers can see that the sites haven't been updated in a long time. Maybe you could remove the dates and move things around once or twice a month so it seems fresh.

Anyways, happy to see you here opening a dialogue with affiliates.

[bluebrit]

Hi Nick, thanks for the information you supplied. To follow up, I have just sent you an email that includes my affiliate username for ragecash and I look forward to any suggestions you may be able to offer.

Regards
BB

[nickbaauw]

Originally Posted by Buncha

Hey Nick and Tam. Glad to see you guys here. As I said, the Dee reps are always nice and helpful. It's good to see sponsors that take an interest in affiliate opinions.

As others have mentioned, I'd love to see Dee combine payments. Maybe a simple backend where all the individual program stats are listed and one check is issued for the entire Dee network. Kinda like how CCBill handles things.

I have sales lingering at a couple Dee programs. Two or three, here and there. But not enough to generate a check at those sites. And that's frustrating. I would promote Dee sites more frequently, and try promoting new sites, if I knew every single sale would be combined so I could get paid.

I also think it would help if some of the tours were tweaked. I'm not talking about a total re-design. But some of the tours (like Movie Profits) have dates on them. And potential customers can see that the sites haven't been updated in a long time. Maybe you could remove the dates and move things around once or twice a month so it seems fresh.

Anyways, happy to see you here opening a dialogue with affiliates.

Combined payouts we have already, but working on doing this with lower minimums! That I guarantee you! as for movieprofits we will get on that program again as well... right now development is very busy accomplishing everything you asked for above ... Please bare with us while we are working on making all this happen for all our very much appreciated and valued affiliates

Big announcements will be made very soon and I guarantee that this will satisfy your and many others needs

[nickbaauw]

Originally Posted by bluebrit

Hi Nick, thanks for the information you supplied. To follow up, I have just sent you an email that includes my affiliate username for ragecash and I look forward to any suggestions you may be able to offer.

Regards
BB

Thanks for your email BlueBrit, received it I have a quick conference call and right after I will make sure to answer it

[Buncha]

Originally Posted by nickbaauw

Combined payouts we have already, but working on doing this with lower minimums! That I guarantee you!

Hey Nick.

Let's say I have a couple sales at Traffic Cash Gold ($75), Movie Profits ($90) and TripleXCash ($60). But it's not enough at any program to make minimum. Can I combine the sales at those Dee sponsors and get a check ($225 total)?

That's what I'm talking about. If you get that set-up, I'd be very eager to promote more Dee sites.

[nickbaauw]

Originally Posted by Buncha

Hey Nick.

Let's say I have a couple sales at Traffic Cash Gold ($75), Movie Profits ($90) and TripleXCash ($60). But it's not enough at any program to make minimum. Can I combine the sales at those Dee sponsors and get a check ($225 total)?

That's what I'm talking about. If you get that set-up, I'd be very eager to promote more Dee sites.

This is in the works buncha and will be done very soon
Right now if we pay that out our NATS settings will pay you again unless manually done

Unfortunately currently we dont have the proper setup for this yet, but soon we will... Meanwhile I would love to help out and see where we can meet those minimum payouts faster

[The Epic]

Nick,

The niches I've been promoting mainly are solo girls, clothing fetishes, and nude wrestling.

I'm also going to expand into Blowjobs as well.

What's your best sites for these?

[nickbaauw]

Originally Posted by The Epic

Nick,

The niches I've been promoting mainly are solo girls, clothing fetishes, and nude wrestling.

I'm also going to expand into Blowjobs as well.

What's your best sites for these?

Hey The Epic,

As for solo girls our strongest ones currently are:

Britney bangs:
http://secure.britneybangs.com/track/ODcwOTozOjE3Mg/

CamWithAngel:
http://secure.camwithangel.com/track/ODcwOTozOjIyMg/

CamWithAstarte:
http://secure.camwithastarte.com/track/ODcwOTozOjE2Mg/

Riley Rebel:
http://secure.rileyrebel.com/track/ODcwOTozOjQ0/

Riley Rebel non-nude:
http://secure.rileyrebel.com/track/ODcwOTozOjQ2/

Program: http://ragecash.com anything you need to give these 2 sites a try please let me know and you will have it

As for nude wrestling the closest I can get to that is:
Tour1:
http://catfightgangbang.meatmembers....TA0OjExODo1Mg/
Tour2 Tube Tour:
http://catfightgangbang.meatmembers....jExODo1Mg/tube

Program: http://meatcash.com

As for blowjobs

FuckedupFacials:
http://really.fuckedupfacials.com/tr...TA0OjExODo1NA/

ItsFacials:
http://itsfacials.meatmembers.com/tr...TA0OjExODo2MQ/

FacialCumTargets:
http://facialcumtargets.meatmembers....TA0OjExODoxOQ/

NutInhermouth:
http://nutinhermouth.meatmembers.com...TA0OjExODoyOQ/

No cum dodging Allowed:
http://nocumdodgingallowed.meatmembe...TA0OjExODoyOA/

All in http://meatcash.com as well

Exclusive content!

[The Epic]

Well I mean honestly its great that you've been so active in this thread. I was kind of hoping that someone from Dee would come and see it so that's a good sign. I will be giving some strong consideration to promoting some of these programs. I can't push the kind of traffic that someone like Greenie could do but I am very much willing to try sending some to your programs. I will let you guys know if I have an issue.

Thanks

[bluemoney]

They have nice Pillow Cases

[bluebrit]

Originally Posted by nickbaauw

Thanks for your email BlueBrit, received it I have a quick conference call and right after I will make sure to answer it

I just replied to your email Nick. Sorry for the late reply but I was away from the computer all day. Thanks for the follow up though its very much appreciated

[KBruno]

I understand the reasons behind minimums and holds on payouts. This is a business full of fraud from both affiliates and the public at large. But, making minimum payouts indefinate is just as bad. After a period of time there's no way to claim fraud or need to worry about charge backs on a given sale and no defense for an open ended hold on the payout for that sale. When does the hold itself become fraud?

Why not introduce aging? Say after a year on hold, payouts are made reguardless of the minimums. That protects the paysite and stops screwing legitimate affiliates out of what they rightfully earned.

Sad to say but I don't think I'll ever see this in any program that uses minimums.

[Dr Bizzaro]

Originally Posted by KBruno

Why not introduce aging? Say after a year on hold, payouts are made reguardless of the minimums. That protects the paysite and stops screwing legitimate affiliates out of what they rightfully earned.

That's a great idea.
That was what I was basically asking when I emailed Dee Cash and many others about payments.

Some of my below minimums were sitting around for 1-5 years. It’s money I made and is owed to me.

[KBruno]

The way adult traffic is more and more diluted, adult programs should be thinking about webmaster retention right along side member retention.

I think it would be great PR for a program. It would show they're serious about their affiliates, even the little guy who may not have the big traffic but still makes them money.

[faxxaff]

Originally Posted by Greenie

Can I go one step deeper & ask about retention? If the site isn't being updated, we may make a sale off a good tour, but then they cancel before they rebill.

Why would they care about rebills in the first place?
Didn't you notice 2 pre-checked x-sales (check signup form)?

[Greenguy]

I'm actually one of the people that think the surfer is a fucking moron if they miss the cross sales.

[faxxaff]

Originally Posted by Greenie

I'm actually one of the people that think the surfer is a fucking moron if they miss the cross sales.

They are not concealed like they were used to. But on revshare it leaves you with 50 Cents for a 1$ trial in your pocket ... and how much will you get paid for the cross sales?

[nickbaauw]

Originally Posted by The Epic

Well I mean honestly its great that you've been so active in this thread. I was kind of hoping that someone from Dee would come and see it so that's a good sign. I will be giving some strong consideration to promoting some of these programs. I can't push the kind of traffic that someone like Greenie could do but I am very much willing to try sending some to your programs. I will let you guys know if I have an issue.

Thanks

Thanks a lot the Epic, please let me know if there's anything we can do for you

[nickbaauw]

Originally Posted by bluemoney

They have nice Pillow Cases

hahahaha awesome! back in the day!
We had robes we handed out at that show as well