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Pagan · 2009-09-11, 11:36 PM

Hmmm.. what does the US produce? How about wheat? Corn? cotton? tobacco? wine? porn? books? music? television? movies? cars? I can go on and on and on. Yes, other countries do produce goods, but with many other countries, the US is one of their larger trading partners. I know the entire Eastern Bloc has factories, but many are antiquated to the point of producing little of quality or use. (My ex is a defector from communist Poland, and we did talk about this topic at great length)

Ukraine has been hit very hard by foreign rule and abuse. It will take many generations of hard work to be self-sufficient and strong on its own. You can't just have oil or wheat - you have to have a way to get it to market, process it, and turn it into products your people first want to buy, and second have the means to buy. My ex used to ship home cartons of nice, soft toilet paper so his family could sell it to neighbors and get rich. Why? Because the locally produced product was like sand paper!

The rules about not being accepted if you are from certain countries has been around from the early days of this industry. If your country respected copyright laws, or using legal age models, or not hotlinking or cheating or other devious methods of making a fast buck, you might well be allowed to participate in such programs. I am not saying that you yourself do any of these things -- it just takes one or two bad webmasters to spoil it for everyone. The rules are there, and have been there for over 10 years that I know of. If you didn't read them before you signed up, that is on you. Add to it your countrymen who will join and then cancel or backcharge. Get enough of it and a site decides they don't want to market their products to your area. Webmasters get terminated all the time for this, and not just from any one country. (Notice Nigeria on the list? That is the all time capital for fraud and scams. The former USSR is the third after Haiti)

Now, some of the programs might listen to you if you have a rational appeal such as a good track record or lots of legit sales with few chargebacks. Smearing a program as being a cheat when you were the one who joined from a "blacklisted" country is not the way to do it. Calling them names won't work either. Sounds like you need to look for a Ukranian-friendly sponsor and just move on. Better yet... maybe this adult webmaster thing just isn't for you, and you should quit while you are ahead?

2009-09-11, 11:36 PM	#22
Pagan Perverted Empress Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 4,644	Hmmm.. what does the US produce? How about wheat? Corn? cotton? tobacco? wine? porn? books? music? television? movies? cars? I can go on and on and on. Yes, other countries do produce goods, but with many other countries, the US is one of their larger trading partners. I know the entire Eastern Bloc has factories, but many are antiquated to the point of producing little of quality or use. (My ex is a defector from communist Poland, and we did talk about this topic at great length) Ukraine has been hit very hard by foreign rule and abuse. It will take many generations of hard work to be self-sufficient and strong on its own. You can't just have oil or wheat - you have to have a way to get it to market, process it, and turn it into products your people first want to buy, and second have the means to buy. My ex used to ship home cartons of nice, soft toilet paper so his family could sell it to neighbors and get rich. Why? Because the locally produced product was like sand paper! The rules about not being accepted if you are from certain countries has been around from the early days of this industry. If your country respected copyright laws, or using legal age models, or not hotlinking or cheating or other devious methods of making a fast buck, you might well be allowed to participate in such programs. I am not saying that you yourself do any of these things -- it just takes one or two bad webmasters to spoil it for everyone. The rules are there, and have been there for over 10 years that I know of. If you didn't read them before you signed up, that is on you. Add to it your countrymen who will join and then cancel or backcharge. Get enough of it and a site decides they don't want to market their products to your area. Webmasters get terminated all the time for this, and not just from any one country. (Notice Nigeria on the list? That is the all time capital for fraud and scams. The former USSR is the third after Haiti) Now, some of the programs might listen to you if you have a rational appeal such as a good track record or lots of legit sales with few chargebacks. Smearing a program as being a cheat when you were the one who joined from a "blacklisted" country is not the way to do it. Calling them names won't work either. Sounds like you need to look for a Ukranian-friendly sponsor and just move on. Better yet... maybe this adult webmaster thing just isn't for you, and you should quit while you are ahead? __________________ Submit Here!