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Old 2009-12-01, 08:45 PM   #22
whitey
Hey, can you take the wheel for a second, I have to scratch my self in two places at once
 
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Originally Posted by LizAEBN View Post
OK - I can see where whitey's going with that, and that's my fault for poor communication.

My beef is with using credit card for age verification - this doesn't provide me with an opportunity to see if it's something I'm willing to risk having my card dinged far. I do choose to buy porn on the web, on occasion, if I find the content to be compelling. But if I have to hand over my card info before I've been able to take a look? Nuh uh. It's really tough for me to decide to risk shelling out an undisclosed sum of money before I have any idea what I am getting into.

My word choice in "any site that asks" was poor - I didn't think how badly that could be interpreted. But my point is still valid - if we in the business are concerned with it, imagine how much more so it is outside the business?

I buy porn. I sell porn. I give porn as presents. But I don't think like a porn-person. I think like a business person. And all too often, it seems those are mutually exclusive. We dun those that think "like surfers" - but surfers are our customers. I think more of us should think like surfers and consumers, and less like webmasters. The best CEO is the one that knows what the buyer wants.
Thanks for your balanced response Liz, and I both apologize again for being snarky and somewhat poor communication on my part.

The part I bolded is something I could not agree more with. In the public webmaster boards there is continual complaining about tubes, surfer forums, and file sharing. Much of this bitching lacks information.

Take surfer forums, for example, which I make it a point to surf once per week. I suspect that amongst the participants in surfer forums are the most dedicated and repeat purchasers of porn. One can learn quite a bit by reading their comments on sites they have bought memberships to and also realize that most would prefer a great membership site - and are serial membership purchasers. But, it is easier for WM's to bitch about the boards themselves, and the freeloaders that hang out in them, than either learn from them or understand that many of their best potential customers for a new membership haunt those places (other than the clever webmasters that have started surfer forums and understand how well they convert traffic). Just one example.

Anyway, sorry for starting out on a bad note!!
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