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CaptainJSparrow · 2012-02-26, 07:49 PM

Another problem with the way that we used to do Link Lists, and the way that some folks still do them, is the penalty that we all got (I'm pretty sure that a bunch of sites still have it) for unnatural link schemes. An example, this page:

http://www.freeporncorner.com/amateu...brina-deep/uk/

That page links to 15 Link Lists, using a link to the category page and a link to the index page of each one.

A link from a page like that not only does not help your site, it will hurt it as far as Google is concerned. It is blatantly an attempt to artificially inflate link popularity which will get you penalized. Couple that with the fact that back in the day we had what, somewhere around 25 Link Lists getting over 100k per day from Google and another 75 or so that got less but decent Google traffic AND the free site builders were submitting to all of us?

You have a small number of Link Lists getting backlinks built up every day from a finite number of free sites (each one creating multiple new pages to submit most days of the week). It became a maze where Googlebot just bounced around all of those sites, from the low quality pages linking to the Link Lists and then back out again to all of the low quality pages. That is a direct path to one thing, an algorithmic Penalty.

Does anyone else here have a penalty on one of their old Link List url's (or maybe all of them) that expires every 60 days and then is reapplied within about 5 days? Go look at your Google Analytics and see if you have traffic spikes roughly every 60 days.

I recently compared the backlinks showed by Google's Webmaster Tools of two of the url's that I used to have as Link Lists. I was amazed to find that over 650 of the first 1000 links were shared by both sites. That's over 65%. What percentage of the backlinks to Greenie's Link O Rama do ya'll think your Link Lists share with him. GreenGuy, what percentage of your current group of Link Lists' backlinks are shared by them all.

There are sites that take submissions and require a link back that do well at Google. One example is FreeOnes.com. The difference is that they don't have a group of sites, like we had, that are all interlinked (hell we all used to link our category pages, my amateur to yours, yours back to mine) and receiving backlinks from the same sites to all of them.

Back to that page that I used as an example:

http://www.freeporncorner.com/amateu...brina-deep/uk/

a decent amount of the links on that page go to pages, and sites, that no longer exist. The owner of that site would be better off, IMHO, if they removed all of those old pages like that. Pages like this actually hurt the whole site that they are on because of the broken outgoing links and they will hurt the sites that they link to because of the unnatural link scheme penalty.

IMHO to do a Link List now-a-days, getting them to link back to you from each page that they submit would actually hurt your seo efforts. The links out should be no followed...I mean those pages aren't gonna place in the serps, ever, anyway. I think that a Link List could do well if it exchanged (A-B_C)links with sites other than the ones submitting to them.

You don't have to be a tube to place in the top 10 for highly sought after keywords...look at "Free Porn" PinkWorld.com consistently shows up in the top 10.

2012-02-26, 07:49 PM	#13
CaptainJSparrow You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Louisiana Posts: 511	Another problem with the way that we used to do Link Lists, and the way that some folks still do them, is the penalty that we all got (I'm pretty sure that a bunch of sites still have it) for unnatural link schemes. An example, this page: http://www.freeporncorner.com/amateu...brina-deep/uk/ That page links to 15 Link Lists, using a link to the category page and a link to the index page of each one. A link from a page like that not only does not help your site, it will hurt it as far as Google is concerned. It is blatantly an attempt to artificially inflate link popularity which will get you penalized. Couple that with the fact that back in the day we had what, somewhere around 25 Link Lists getting over 100k per day from Google and another 75 or so that got less but decent Google traffic AND the free site builders were submitting to all of us? You have a small number of Link Lists getting backlinks built up every day from a finite number of free sites (each one creating multiple new pages to submit most days of the week). It became a maze where Googlebot just bounced around all of those sites, from the low quality pages linking to the Link Lists and then back out again to all of the low quality pages. That is a direct path to one thing, an algorithmic Penalty. Does anyone else here have a penalty on one of their old Link List url's (or maybe all of them) that expires every 60 days and then is reapplied within about 5 days? Go look at your Google Analytics and see if you have traffic spikes roughly every 60 days. I recently compared the backlinks showed by Google's Webmaster Tools of two of the url's that I used to have as Link Lists. I was amazed to find that over 650 of the first 1000 links were shared by both sites. That's over 65%. What percentage of the backlinks to Greenie's Link O Rama do ya'll think your Link Lists share with him. GreenGuy, what percentage of your current group of Link Lists' backlinks are shared by them all. There are sites that take submissions and require a link back that do well at Google. One example is FreeOnes.com. The difference is that they don't have a group of sites, like we had, that are all interlinked (hell we all used to link our category pages, my amateur to yours, yours back to mine) and receiving backlinks from the same sites to all of them. Back to that page that I used as an example: http://www.freeporncorner.com/amateu...brina-deep/uk/ a decent amount of the links on that page go to pages, and sites, that no longer exist. The owner of that site would be better off, IMHO, if they removed all of those old pages like that. Pages like this actually hurt the whole site that they are on because of the broken outgoing links and they will hurt the sites that they link to because of the unnatural link scheme penalty. IMHO to do a Link List now-a-days, getting them to link back to you from each page that they submit would actually hurt your seo efforts. The links out should be no followed...I mean those pages aren't gonna place in the serps, ever, anyway. I think that a Link List could do well if it exchanged (A-B_C)links with sites other than the ones submitting to them. You don't have to be a tube to place in the top 10 for highly sought after keywords...look at "Free Porn" PinkWorld.com consistently shows up in the top 10. Last edited by CaptainJSparrow; 2012-02-26 at 07:54 PM..