This is going to be a long post but after two years, I thought everyone should know what kind of a program they run. Also, if you want to jump in here and say "They have always been good to me" OR "They've always paid me on time" OR "They convert great for me"..... I don't give a shit
This all began in 2005 when I was promoting them regularly and the ratio was not too bad, but all of a sudden everything went to shit, so I contacted Tony (who is no longer there) on August, 20th 2005 and asked him what could be the reason. I provided him with some links to my freesites, galleries and hubs so he could check them out and give me his honest answer. I got an email from Tony the same day saying:
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Hi Sy-
Thanks for the email, let me start researching your account see what I can find out.
Tony
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I emailed back and thanked him for his time and told him to take his time. I did receive an email from him on August, 24th 2005
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Hi Sy-
I am looking into your account and I see a lot of tranasctions and a few rebills too, but it looks like some of the surfers are not converting from trial to full memberships. I am doing a break down now of your sales so you can get a better idea.
Tony
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After about 45 minutes later, I did get another email from him with this report:
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Hi Sy-
Here are some #'s I got, Lets talk about it when you have time-
sales break down-
jan- 6 transactions, pps, all canceled with in trial
feb- 21 tranactions, pps, 18 canceled within trial
march- 13 transactions,pps, 8 canceled within trial
april- 16 transactons, pps, 10 canceled within trial
may- 26 transactions, pps, 18 canceled within trial
june- 12 transactions, pps, 6 canceled within trial
july 15 transactions, pps, 10 canceled within trial
aug- 8 tranactions, pps, 6 canceled within trial
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Now here where the problem starts, they claim I have made 117 sales in 71/2 months but the problem is, I have only been paid for 50!! This was nowhere to be found in their TOS. I did reply to his email and I was pretty pissed off and I did ask him if I can get any detailed info about those transactions, such as join and cancellation dates and times but he refused to provide me any further information and that was the end of the road!!
I did remove as many of their links as I could but I had to leave some alone due to the fact, they were tgp galleries and I just didn't want to fuck with the galleries and what not.
Later on, I started seeing some sales from my old galleries out there with good conversion ratios and I thought that they decided to run an honest business after they announced SpaCash v.2.0, but I was wrong. I guess that 2.0 meant, we are going to fuck our affiliates even more!
When I saw some increase in sales and better ratios, I submitted a handful of galleries to see how it goes. Sure, one gallery get listed at Tommys, DD, both hanks tgps, free6, madthumbs, thumbnail post, freepicseries and a few more. The traffic to galleries were great but the problem was, my SpaCash stats showed only a dozen clicks. I emailed Gerard and let him have it....LOL and then, what a fucking surprise...... I had a sale with no additional clicks!!!!!
This time I said FUCK THEM for good, I have nothing to do with this cheating mother fuckers but, I still check my account to withdraw the money for any sales that might appear from my old links (which I am sure they either shave me 100% after this or they'll just terminate my account. I've heard they are good at that too!)
So one day as I was checking my account, I decide to look to see how the two active webmaster I have under me doing. Sure enough, one has made over 70 sales and they other over 20. So here I go again....LOL I emailed their accounting on Oct, 15th 2007 to see why I never got my $300, and here is the reply I got the same day :
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None of them has 15 sales
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Wow what a detailed email! I did email them back with what I saw in my stats:
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When I ran the stats, I saw 75 sales for "Webmaster_id removed" and 25 sales for "Webmaster_id removed". Are we looking at different stats?
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And yet I got another professional response and this was the only thing in their email
http://www.spacash.com/members/stats...php?ch_lang=us So I am thinking to myself, they are either born stupid or took some classes to become fucking stupid..... Either way, THEY ARE STUPID!
So again I emailed them back with some more detailed information and this all happened within just a couple of hours and here what it was in my email:
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That's waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off my friend! Go to general stats and run from Jan, 1st 2005 to date and you'll see total sales for:
Webmaster_id removed:
Masscha Fetish 42
Tranny Pleasure 4
Just Black Gays 3
Biggest Tits Online 6
Interracial Addicts 2
Spy Addicts 1
Tear My Ass 1
Hot Asian Gays 1
All Sex Toons 2
Unknown 13
Webmaster_id removed:
Only Huge Cocks 12
Enormous Babes 9
Spy Addicts 1
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And guess what? I never heard back from them again. I was going to bring the original problem to this board but I didn't because, they were board sponsor and I didn't want to start anything. I don't post anywhere else and that's why it never made it to public. I did contact both Greenie and Jim regarding this issue last week to get their permission to open a thread in here and I sincerely thank them for allowing me to do so.
I am not here to tell you not to promote SpaCash, I am here to tell you this is how they have fucked me over. Never got paid $2345 for the 67 sales I had made in 2005 (and only God knows how many more since then) and also never got paid the $300 webmaster referral.
I just want you to see this and make your own choice.
Sy