Random notes:
*The word is CONSENSUAL, not CONSENTUAL.
*Re: "If you don't want to see it, don't look at it." I am so sick of hearing this "argument". The concern with controversial depictions of nonconsensual sex is that THERE MAY BE CONSEQUENCES THAT IMPACT PEOPLE OTHER THAN THE FOLKS WHO CHOOSE TO WATCH IT. Not looking at it yourself doesn't protect from those consequences. If there are people who confuse fantasy on a porn site with reality, and deduce from it that it's okay to, for example, start fucking a sleeping woman's dry pussy without her consent . . . the woman is going to pay the price for that whether she watched that porn or not. GET IT??
I don't agree with blacklisting or shutting down the sleep site (I'll personally promote it myself), or other controversial porn, but to act as though there are no potential negative consequences, and to not discuss these rationally or try to find ways to limit them, is STUPID.
*Re: "Pornographers criticizing porn are hypocrites". Oh spare me. There are almost as many types of porn and extremes of porn as there are individual fantasies. To pretend it's all the same and not make any differentiation between (just as an example) a softcore foot fetish site and a hardcore double anal site is moronic. This is like certain people who pretend an abortion in the third trimester is just as kosher as one in the first. Everyone shoots themselves in the foot by refusing to acknowledge differences. I am not suggesting that any type of porn filmed with the consent of adults should be illegal . . . but the ethics of porn should be open for discussion. It should be fun and empowering to discuss these things, not something that opens you up for ridicule. Higher level thinking skills? ANYONE?
There are a lot of things being said on this issue that I agree with, but so many more that just smack of sheer unwillingness to go the distance with logical trains of thought that it drives me apeshit.
Another thing: I love me some taboo porn, as I mentioned in
this thread, and I believe in people's rights to produce such porn . . . but I also respect that we all are allowed and justified to have our own bad reactions to whatever bothers us. I do get a little sick of male webmasters acting like it's oversensitive for some of us to get pissed when we see 90% of porn depicting women in ways that are unrealistic, degrading, and in cases like this one, BEING RAPED. Yes, it's a fantasy . . . but it's getting a little stale. And if women weren't raped all the time, and if it weren't for 50% of rapes in this country not even leading to an arrest, I might think we were being oversensitive about it. If there were more sites depicting men in these positions, I might think you guys have a leg to stand on, but you're kidding yourself if you don't think the overabundance of porn that degrades women, shows them having sex that is physically harmful/dangerous, shows them being humiliated, dominated, and forced into sex, isn't at least a sign of bigger problems, if not a contributing factor in those problems. It's not being oversensitive to acknowledge that something is fucked up with this picture.