Pornhub Is Officially Extorting Me
 

Here's a screencap of the entire email chain so no one can accuse me of misquoting anyone.

I get this in the mail:
My reply:
Pavel's Reply:
My Reply:
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What a bunch of douchebags. |catfight|

Hmmm thats pretty nasty tactics really - and shouldnt in any way be needed for them

I used to promote a lot of the programs that joined them and then stopped when I could no longer get any sort of promo materials at all. Even banners are out of the question. I asked for 1 iframe promoting lesbians only and got one back that had everything but lesbians in it. Totally non-responsive. And yes, their current trick is extortion.

Return The Favor:

Adult Porn Hub Videos | Greenguy
link-o-rama.com/greenguy/search-porn-hub-videos/
Watch Adult Porn Hub videos for free, here at Greenguys Link O Rama

Create the page, put a bunch of your Greenguy Theater AEBN stuff on it.
You can even use tgpx to rotate all the ones you got.

Any complaints are easily answered, When you remove mine I will remove yours!

Would be funny Robert, but takes serious juice to do it and/or willingness to spend cash on it

He sent a follow-up:

Pavel:
My Reply:

Update: I posted this on another (private) webmaster board & someone contacted Corey from Pornhub and this was his reply:
Jel was the 1st to reply:
And finally my reply:
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Jel figured that one for sure ... but its hard to see anything being done about it - maybe theyll be "grand" and fix it for you but the practice likely continues in general.

...and realistically theres only a sense of fairplay in their way, it isnt illegal or shady, just a bit shitty. Especially given their near monopoly in the market

Parts of my most recent reply were taken from an email I had going with the owners of a popular website where searching for them gave listings on Pornhub just like mine. Pornhub removed them when they complained, so they know about it. Jel simply pointed out how truly ludicrous their explanation is.

In my case, they are technically not doing anything illegal in that dummy never registered his name as a trademark (long story, shitty lawyer, it may be on here someplace). But if I did, then it'd be illegal. It is shady as fuck & incredibly shitty.

I know this makes me sound old, but I really fucking miss the days when 95% of the people you dealt with were just that: people. This entire fucking industry has become way too corporate.

Shady and shitty, not sure if even trademarking would protect against it

-> it would require being able to explain to a judge the fine point distinctions Jel introduced vs a "we cant control what users search for or the tags introduced by uploaders, but we remove it immediately when it is brought to our attention"

Either way, even if they had to dump the specific practice these corporations have the sheer volume to crush us all in 100 different ways. Kudos to you for sticking it to them, but turn the next page and they will be monopolizing in some other way

I'm way too angry to format the last 2 posts, so here:

http://www.greenguysboard.com/PHUpdate321.jpg

Astonishing.

If they dont want to actually fix it, why not at least generic spindoctoring:
"We have removed your terms from our index and have deployed resources to clean out all such terms that accidentally or otherwise target the keywords of other companies. Thank you for bringing this to our attention, we will keep you posted on the progress"

...and then of course just remove yours and never keep anyone posted (unless actually feeling a bit shitty about it, but thats probably beyond reach)

Which board is that btw?

It's a private adult webmaster board that I somehow got invited to join. Mostly industry vets of some sort & current big wigs. I don't know the rules so I'm being very vague lol

Haha fair enough, just give them hell at least :D

I saw a lot of people leave GFY as it descended into the shit hole it now has become. I figured that someone setup a private board because many of those people still have their sites. Too bad, it wouldn't have taken much effort by Eric to save to it.

So it actually got worse than it was 10-15 years ago??

Definitely...you can barely find a thread about anything relevant now...it used to be mostly drama - now you have to dig for the weekly biz thread of substance

I am seriously wondering where they get the search terms. When a clip is submitted, you are only given 12 on some of their sites, (20 on others) tags you can use. The channel or account may throw others in there, but they are relevant. Even the description field is about 75 characters so you cant fit all these words there. PornHub has to be adding them on their side. Pretty crappy way to do business. If the submitters are not using Greenguy in their tags or descriptions, where is he getting the term? Makes me never want to submit anything to them or use their clips anywhere else. It also seems to be only PornHub.. hmmmm...

Just an update that Corey at Pornhub as me to contact him, so we took it to email. He asked what results I wanted him to remove, so I sent him this link:
https://www.google.com/search?q=site...b.com+greenguy
He came back & asked what specific URLs I wanted removed, so I sent him this text file:
http://www.link-o-rama.com/PornhubGr...rchResults.txt

IM guessing they use semrush or a custom software to scan competitors search terms and popular sites and add the necessary code to take over our collective urls.

Corey emailed me & said:
My reply:

Update (because, as most of you know, I have a hard time letting things die)

I emailed Corey yesterday (Apr 8, 2019, 11:26 AM)

Corey replied last night (Apr 8, 2019, 10:53 PM)

I just replied (Apr 9, 2019, 6:24 AM)
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Another update, as it's been 2 weeks since Corey & I communicated.

I emailed Corey last night (Apr 22, 2019 6:53 PM)

Corey replied to me today (Apr 23, 2019 6:12 PM)

My reply (Apr 23, 2019 6:26 PM)

Give him the list of 300 and keep pushing?
Though, no matter what its quite clear they wont change the practice in general