PR Updated - looks like a lot of people lost a few points

[xxxjay]

JJ (0:00 AM) :
pr just went down across most sites today though

JJ (0:00 AM) :
your index is showing 5 here

Jay (0:01 AM) :
damn

Jay (0:01 AM) :
damn 5 here too
what a drag
Jay (0:02 AM) :
well
looks like that happened across the board

Jay (0:03 AM) :
http://www.link-o-rama.com/ 5 was 6

Jay (0:03 AM) :
http://www.hoes.com/ was 6

Jay (0:04 AM) :
http://www.freesitexxx.com/ was 6

Jay (0:04 AM) :
http://www.linkforsex.com/ was 6

Jay (0:05 AM) :
looks like they might have reordered shit

Jay (0:05 AM) :
http://www.reality-porn-sites.org/ was 6

Jay (0:05 AM) :
http://www.penisbot.com/ is 6

Jay (0:06 AM) :
http://www.smashingthumbs.com/ 7 to 6

[Bill]

Pretty dramatic...

But when it's across the board like this, who knows what effect we can expect as far as traffic goes.

And, I recall significant dips in the past, which were followed by record highs a few months afterwards.

[Greenguy]

5!?!?!?!?!?!? Oh WTF! |banghead|

But like Bill said, this did happen a few months back & it was followed by LOR becoming a 7 for a week or so (and then back to 6 after that)

[BML]

This is nice ... I will get as much traffic as GG, Jay, Hoes, Penisbot etc from Google now...|jester|

- BML

[BML]

Mine just went back to the old PR/Backward Links...

Is this normal in an update ?

- BML

[grzepa]

Oh crap :( pornlucky went down from 4 to 3, I was hoping to hit 5 soon and now that crap happened.

Lets have faith in what Bill and GG said.

[Greenguy]

Oddly enough, the last time this happened was June 2003.

[BML]

Did you write this down or are you half elephant ???

[Ramster]

My Link Sites and TGPs stayed the same at 5's but damn a lot of the others did drop a spot. It seems maybe that the urls I have that don't change daily dropped like fake TGPs ect.

[Greenguy]

Originally posted by BML
Did you write this down or are you half elephant ??? I have piles & piles of useless information :D

[kit]

According my stats, all LL's lost around half of back links. :-(

[MatrixFan]

XXXsuperlinks went down to a 4 but XXX-Adults remains a 5

[xxxjay]

Originally posted by BML
This is nice ... I will get as much traffic as GG, Jay, Hoes, Penisbot etc from Google now...|jester|

- BML

Yeah you probably will...the way you have it set up is very...ummm...familiar.

[Pusher]

All I can say is that if my two LL's have the same PR as Greenguy, Hoes, Penisbot, Tommys, etc... something must be really fucked up with Google |pcsucks|

[ChristyB]

Sure is a weird set of results...

I have two pages with identical internal backlinks.

Page 1 has several high pr external backlinks (still showing)
Page 2 has only one low pr external backlink

Page 1 has lost 1 pr point - now pr3
Page 2 stayed the same - pr4

That's fucked up!

Also seem to have lost backlinks on almost every page although my main page pr's haven't dropped!

It sure does reek of May/June 2003!!

[otter]

I am not seeing any of my backlinks that were added since april 25 from linklists jays, hoes, greenguy,penisbot. none of them are showing in my backlinks yet

[XPorn]

Yeah...a lot of my other feeder sites dropped from 4 to 3.....so something large scale going on...

XPorn

[xxxjay]

Originally posted by otter
I am not seeing any of my backlinks that were added since april 25 from linklists jays, hoes, greenguy,penisbot. none of them are showing in my backlinks yet

You know what I say: if you can see the link on the page - there's a backlink.

This may seem like a kind of noob question, but...how do you check backlinks anyway?

[dubb]

Jay just type link:www.jays-xxx-links.com in google search bar or whatever url you want to check. You can also use this back link tool http://www.marketleap.com/publinkpop/, but with the way google is going who knows if there anywhere near the truth.

[SandWalker]

Could it be that G is finally starting to discount recip links? Since that's mainly what a LL is, seems like PR reduction and the back links vanishing would make sense.

Thoughts?

[xxxjay]

The pr drop isn't just limited to lls.

[Greenguy]

If they did a massive sweep like last year where 50% of the domains lost 1 PR value, then that means all the PR4's that are linking to you that are now PR3's will not count towards your backlinks - that is, if I correctly remember the Google rumors that I hear from time to time :)

[JanTM]

Booballistics is still 5 - and with more backwards links. Unfortunately half my backward links are now scamming Gay sites??? I just don't get it? |angry|

[f69j69b]

I just submitted to janes guide and that sites root index page has gone up to pr 7 and all the inside pages are pr 6

[Greenguy]

Jane's been a 7 for quite awhile now.

[otter]

The pr3 links count they just dont show up when you check backlinks only pr4 show

[terry]

Hi All,

Hate to ask a stupid question.. but is there a way I can find a pr without installing the toolbar?

Thanks,
Terry

[The Other Steve]

You might find this url helpful

http://www.seo-guy.com/seo-tools/google-pr.php

[YxO]

Shit
My TGP was PR5 now it's PR4, and I also lost many of backlinks.. |pissed|

[Opti]

Originally posted by terry
Hi All,

Hate to ask a stupid question.. but is there a way I can find a pr without installing the toolbar?

Thanks,
Terry

There is a form you can use to check it on this page
http://www.sleekssickestporn.com/link-trades/

[plateman]

yeah I lost a number on all of my pages - but am just starting to get more SE traffic so I am happy, index was a 5 and all cats a 4
oh well pr isnt shit once you get to 5 you need a 4 or 5 to operate.. as far a the spiders go..

[xxxjay]

I've been reading over on WMW and it looks like the PR drop is not just limited to adult because it looks like mainstream sites have felt it as well.

[Opti]

Originally posted by xxxjay
I've been reading over on WMW and it looks like the PR drop is not just limited to adult because it looks like mainstream sites have felt it as well.

I don't see many people complaining about a drop in traffic or sales either.

[troy]

I got this from alexandra search engine facts

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[Linkster]

The backlinks seem to be the problem although I have to agree - the change in backlinks is back to an old number - almost like Google used to do just prior to a big update - this weekend?
LFS's backlinks dropped by more than 50% and the number they show is from 3 months ago - same with all internal pages
Either they are gearing up an index/SERPs update or they didnt do a very good job indexing for a PR/backlinks update and had to revert to an old db.

[DangerDave]

Originally posted by Linkster
Either they are gearing up an index/SERPs update or they didnt do a very good job indexing for a PR/backlinks update and had to revert to an old db. My thoughts too

DD

[Linkster]

Originally posted by DangerDave
My thoughts too

DD

Looks like a little shuffling going on - more than the normal mini-update we've gotten used to - some little voice tells me we might actually get a real update :)

[Greenguy]

I was looking at at PR's on a few of my recent free sites yesterday & saw that some of them had 1, 2 or 3 already instead of the usual none or zero (even if I'm on the 3rd-8th page for my keyword on each - LOL) But it does seem as if "something" is going on.

I'll just be happy when I get my 6 back :D

[Linkster]

GG - Im seeing some PR changes as well - some of my inner pages on LFS went up to a 5 which is where they were a few weeks ago - but definitely seeing some SERPs moving as well :)