Epass Replacment

[Tommy]

western union has a setup similar to epassport


if sponsors started offering this as payment
it looks like it could be even better then epass

http://www.westernunion.com/WUCOMWEB/staticMid.do?method=load&countryCode=US&languageCode=en&pagename=HomePage#

[ponyman]

What about this Payoneer I keep reading about? Noticed FuckYouCash made an announcement they are going to offer payouts using Payoneer within the next 2 months.

[petergg2]

I saw some offer paxum, I have singup for them on one sponsor, maybe they good to collect small payment's ;)

but that I will know after about few weeks (need get some payment, then apply for ccard and wait they come by post to me ;) and then check it work :) )

[pc]

On Payoneer internal pages you can find "Pricing & Fees" page:

- Card activation $12.95 Per card One time - when card is first loaded
- Card activation – outside U.S. – Listed Countries $24.95 Per card One time – when card is first loaded
Albania, Angola, Belarus, Bosnia Herzegovina, CôteD’Ivoire, Congo, Ecuador, Ethiopia, Iraq, Kosovo, Lebanon, Liberia, Macedonia, Montenegro, Pakistan, São Tomé & Príncipe, Serbia, Somalia, Turkmenistan, Zimbabwe.
- Loading Payments $2.00 Per load Each time card is loaded
- Monthly card account maintenance $3.00 0-3 trx/month From available card balance each month
- Monthly card account maintenance $1.00 4+ trx/month From available card balance each month
- Card replacement $12.95 Per card One Time - when issuing a replacement card
- Cash withdrawal $3.15 Per Trx When withdrawal is requested
- ATM withdrawal Decline $1.00 Per Trx When withdrawal request is declined
- ATM Balance inquiry $1.00 Per Trx When inquiry is made
- Purchase Transaction Free * Per Trx When card is used for purchases
* For purchase transactions and cash withdrawals, up to 3% above market rate will be assessed based on current foreign exchange and cross border rates.looks like they charging for every possible action there is.

Tommy that Western Union card looks good
WU prepaid card - pricing & fees (https://www.wuprepaid.com/wuprepaid/public/get.do?view=public/compare&pid=alphaMChero)
Now we need few sponsors to offer this option and maybe others will follow.

[Ms Naughty]

Damn. Payoneer looked good until I saw the fees. Might as well just stump up the $10 for an international check and be done with it.

Western Union is a big name... well they let us dirty pornographers use it?

[Ramster]

- Card activation $12.95 Per card One time - when card is first loaded
- Card activation – outside U.S. – Listed Countries $24.95 Per card One time – when card is first loaded
Albania, Angola, Belarus, Bosnia Herzegovina, CôteD’Ivoire, Congo, Ecuador, Ethiopia, Iraq, Kosovo, Lebanon, Liberia, Macedonia, Montenegro, Pakistan, São Tomé & Príncipe, Serbia, Somalia, Turkmenistan, Zimbabwe.
- Loading Payments $2.00 Per load Each time card is loaded
- Monthly card account maintenance $3.00 0-3 trx/month From available card balance each month
- Monthly card account maintenance $1.00 4+ trx/month From available card balance each month
- Card replacement $12.95 Per card One Time - when issuing a replacement card
- Cash withdrawal $3.15 Per Trx When withdrawal is requested
- ATM withdrawal Decline $1.00 Per Trx When withdrawal request is declined
- ATM Balance inquiry $1.00 Per Trx When inquiry is made
- Purchase Transaction Free * Per Trx When card is used for purchases
* For purchase transactions and cash withdrawals, up to 3% above market rate will be assessed based on current foreign exchange and cross border rates.


WOW. That is a LOT of fees. I won' be using them ever!!

[Tommy]

the reason i liked western union is that its a huge system .. Millions of people use it

I also know the western union card is used by a lot of escorts

[tickler]

O'm curious how any of them handle the $1000 lifetime max load on debit cards with the new Card Act. |crazy|

[terry]

Payoneer should be ashamed of themselves with fees like that.

[Charlie]

It wouldn't be so bad if they didn't charge two monthly fees for nothing. You could end up owing if you only use them for one fleeting sponsor that rarely converts.

I emailed them to find out if this is true before I activate my card.

Payoneer I'm talking about

[ponyman]

Checked out Paxum as well, they charge $45/ year for the card. Payoneer is only $12.95 once. But getting a $2 charge for every load is dumb.

[Charlie]

Checked out Paxum as well, they charge $45/ year for the card. Payoneer is only $12.95 once. But getting a $2 charge for every load is dumb.

Don't they also charge 2 monthly payments for min maint.? I'm waiting to hear back from them cause the card is in my hand and I'm ready to activate, but payments for doing nothing even the banks don't do any longer.

All the others they can justify so to speak I guess.

[Ramster]

Don't they also charge 2 monthly payments for min maint.? I'm waiting to hear back from them cause the card is in my hand and I'm ready to activate, but payments for doing nothing even the banks don't do any longer.

All the others they can justify so to speak I guess.

Justify? I don't think so.
The monthly account maintenance is BS like you said
$3.15 just to do a withdrawal at an ATM? Epassporte was $2.00.
$2.00 per load? I assume that means when you receive money/payments? That blows!
ATM withdrawal Decline $1.00 Per Trx When withdrawal request is declined... really?

This is a nice one. "Purchase Transaction Free" 3% above the market rate. So they charge you to make a purchase AND it's above market rate... nice.

They are a rip off.

A sponsor sends me $150 but I only get $148 due to their $2,00 load fee. Then i go to the ATM and take out $140 and they deduct $143.15 from my account. I'm out $5, that'll add it over time.

[terry]

Im with Ramster on this one.

[pc]

I'm curious if everybody sees the same pricing, or they can change/ them on individual basis. Prices/Fees I see (posted here) are just CRAZY |crazy|
I also applied for their card , but now I don't think it's such a good idea.

[dunc]

Damn. Payoneer looked good until I saw the fees. Might as well just stump up the $10 for an international check and be done with it.

Western Union is a big name... well they let us dirty pornographers use it?

Westpac now do 4 cheques for $20 (same country) |bananna||bananna|

[Ms Naughty]

Westpac now do 4 cheques for $20 (same country) |bananna||bananna|

Really? Will have to look into that. Is it standard for them or do I need to do something to wrangle it?

Looked at Paxum, fees are better:
https://www.paxum.com/payment/fees.php?view=views/fees.xsl&

[Vivaldi]

With low fees that epass had I'm not sure anyone else would become dear to us :-)
It's good to have an alternative though that can (maybe) replace epass but the only thing that matters here is will the sponsors use it and witch one will it be!?
I mean what good are paxum's better fees if a fewer sponsors than payoneer use them?! Same with WesternUnion I'd love to use them but they need to jump in the game ... till them nothing.

[RedCherry]

I signed up for Payoneer through adult-empire, and my Card activation fee is less, only U.S. $9.95

And yea, they charge a load fee still, and monthly maintenance, but the cost is zero for purchases, what is what I plan to do with it.

Western Union would be cool, I'll drop a note on the AE board, and see if the owners will consider it.

[RedCherry]

western union has a setup similar to epassport


if sponsors started offering this as payment
it looks like it could be even better then epass

http://www.westernunion.com/WUCOMWEB/staticMid.do?method=load&countryCode=US&languageCode=en&pagename=HomePage#

I went to their fee page, to see how much they cost, and the only two countries they let you check on the cost to send money was US and Canada. Do they allow sponsors in other countries to send money?

[Toby]

I haven't yet looked at the fees, but I've seen a few large sponsors adding I-Payout as a payment option, and the available features seem to exceed what Payoneer, Paxum, et al are offering.

[RedCherry]

What sucks is everyone used epass, now we are going to end up with a bunch of different payout methods. I have a few out of country sponsors that have to do something other than check, and unless they all choose the same thing, it will be a bitch. And I don't make enough to get wires or ACH.

[spookyx]

The adult company I work for uses this to pay with https://www.ikobo.com/

[-efreet-]

http://wmtransfer.com/
http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?&w=400&h=220&o=f&c=1&y=r&b=ffffff&n=666666&r=2y&u=wmtransfer.com&&u=paxum.com&u=epassporte.com&

15-10-2010: 307943 transactions, lol


http://ecoin.cc
http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?&w=400&h=220&o=f&c=1&y=r&b=ffffff&n=666666&r=2y&u=ecoin.cc&&u=epassporte.com&

looks like http://ecoin.cc is a cheapest fees in the net. Free internal transfers, 1.5$ ATM withdraw, and awesome limits! (4000$ daily)

So, why to not use this systems, why you need paxum, payoneer etc..
There is a tons of alternatives

[dunc]

Really? Will have to look into that. Is it standard for them or do I need to do something to wrangle it?

We just moved to Westpac - I went in and the bloke said $10 per cheque, I told him that was shit because St George do 3 for $16 and he said, hold on I'll check and came back with 4 for $20 - so maybe try that line and see how it goes :)

[nekrom]

Westpac also do $10 wires too.

-N

[Ms Naughty]

Thanks Dunc and Nekrom, might have to pay Westpac a visit.

[Charlie]

As far as the monthly charges for Payoneer goes, here's what I got back when inquiring about it. Not sure if this means to keep your account empty if you don't want the charge or not

Reference number: LTK145025501182X
Subject: [WEB Form] Category: Account Inquiries/General Information, Subject: Other, Program: Other

Dear Charles,

Thank you for contacting us.
Payoneer charges one monthly fee every month ( if card had balance over zero during this month)
Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.

Sincerely,

Naomi

Payoneer Customer Support

[Cyber]

Ah... everyone wants to bite as much as he can after ePassporte end but I don't understand why sponsors bet on services that are brand new and uncertain.

[Phooq]

I have a biased opinion on this, although when you take it that Paxum have been the fastest growing, already signed up Topbucks, DeeCash group and over 80 other sponsors plus another 20+ products such as web hosting etc, then those results speak for themselves. This has all be done in around 3 weeks and there are more big sponsors "in the back office" ready to be revealed very soon

Yes I believe Paxum are already on their way to being the perfect Epass replacement.

[Charlie]

Does anyone know how to use this paxum account? I mean do you need their mastercard or can you withdraw straight to your bank account like you could with epass?

[RuthB]

Does anyone know how to use this paxum account? I mean do you need their mastercard or can you withdraw straight to your bank account like you could with epass?

You don't need the prepaid card in order to use your account. You can withdraw your funds through both wire and check options. We also offer P2P transfers.

We have no monthly maintenance fees, no setup fees, and our P2P fees are just $0.25 per transaction. Our limits are generous, and the prepaid card allows you to withdraw up to $2,500 USD daily.

We have a long list of sponsor programs already offering payouts through Paxum, and there are even some sponsors out there who are willing to pay your card activation fee.

I'd be happy to answer any questions you might have, so please don't hesitate to get in touch!

ICQ #233-854-608
Email ruth@paxum.com

|waves|

[terry]

TopBucks just added CashX

CashX Prepaid Card Transaction Fee Schedule
Transaction Type Services Fees
New account setup fee $2.00
Monthly service fee $2.95
First new account load fee $1.00
ATM withdrawal $3.95
Non-ATM cash withdrawal $10.00
PIN or signature transaction at POS $1.25
Internet transaction $1.25
ATM balance inquiry $1.95
Currency conversion 1.50%
Maintenance per inactive account (after 6mths) $5.00
Replacement card / account $15.00
Balance check request $25.00
Self Internet customer service $0.00
IVR usage $1.00
Live customer service (per call) $2.50
Paper monthly statement n/a
Closed account $4.99

Card Limits Card Limits
ATM daily withdrawals maximum $500.00
POS Daily withdrawals maximum Card Max.
Account Loading/Funding Maximum $2,500.00
Account Balance Maximum $2,500.00

[RuthB]

TopBucks just added CashX



.... Topbucks have been offering Paxum for some time now, and I can tell you right now our fees and, particularly our limits, are definitely preferable:

ie - for comparable fees:

Paxum
New account setup fee $0.00
Monthly service fee $0.00
Activation Fee $44.95
ATM withdrawal $2.00
PIN or signature transaction at POS $1.00
Internet transaction $1.00
Currency conversion 0%
Maintenance per inactive account (after 6mths) $0.00

Card Limits
ATM daily withdrawals maximum $2500.00
POS Daily withdrawals maximum $2500.00
Account Loading/Funding Maximum $10,000.00
Account Balance Maximum $10,000.00

[Charlie]

You don't need the prepaid card in order to use your account. You can withdraw your funds through both wire and check options. We also offer P2P transfers.

We have no monthly maintenance fees, no setup fees, and our P2P fees are just $0.25 per transaction. Our limits are generous, and the prepaid card allows you to withdraw up to $2,500 USD daily.

We have a long list of sponsor programs already offering payouts through Paxum, and there are even some sponsors out there who are willing to pay your card activation fee.

I'd be happy to answer any questions you might have, so please don't hesitate to get in touch!

ICQ #233-854-608
Email ruth@paxum.com

|waves|

Thanks I may be in touch. I'm already signed up so that I can try and get my Dee Cash network accounts merged but if things work out with that I might use some other sponsors too.

No big deal with setting up to direct straight to a US Bank Account from within account admin area I take it.

[RuthB]

Thanks I may be in touch. I'm already signed up so that I can try and get my Dee Cash network accounts merged but if things work out with that I might use some other sponsors too.

No big deal with setting up to direct straight to a US Bank Account from within account admin area I take it.

Nope, it's easy to have the funds wired or sent via check to your Bank account. |thumb

[Simon]

...there are even some sponsors out there who are willing to pay your card activation fee.
It might be worthwhile to list the sponsors who are doing that. I don't need another card, but I might use it if there was no activation fee.



.

[terry]

Paxum
Activation Fee $44.95

Ya but $45 for the card - OUCH!

[Charlie]

Nope, it's easy to have the funds wired or sent via check to your Bank account. |thumb

I just ran into my first problem and sent you an email concerning it but thought I'd ask here in case anyone else is having it.

What do you use as account name when using paxum for payment option. Is it your nickname, checking account number, email sign in or something else?

I mean when choosing it in the affiliate area of a sponsor site as the payout method

Thanks

[pc]

I just sign-up for PAXUM mainly because my few favorite sponsors offers PAXUM as payment option. So far so good. Much better than Payoneer.

[RuthB]

It might be worthwhile to list the sponsors who are doing that. I don't need another card, but I might use it if there was no activation fee.



.

Juggcash and Mofoscash :)

Ya but $45 for the card - OUCH!

It's an activation fee applied by MC, we have no say in the matter.

I just ran into my first problem and sent you an email concerning it but thought I'd ask here in case anyone else is having it.

What do you use as account name when using paxum for payment option. Is it your nickname, checking account number, email sign in or something else?

I mean when choosing it in the affiliate area of a sponsor site as the payout method

Thanks

Your Email address is what is needed :)

[pc]

I just spent few minutes chatting with RuthB over ICQ, fast and easy support and most important finally someone who actually is responsive on boards. |thumb

[RuthB]

I just spent few minutes chatting with RuthB over ICQ, fast and easy support and most important finally someone who actually is responsive on boards. |thumb

it was a pleasure talking with you! Thanks for choosing Paxum! |bananna|

[JackDaniel's]

Ya but $45 for the card - OUCH!

Epassportes card was $35 and there was a $5 account fee if I remember correctly so no big differece IMO. Paxum looks really promising |thumb

I already signed up and waiting now for my card ;)

[terry]

Epassportes card was $35 and there was a $5 account fee if I remember correctly so no big differece IMO. Paxum looks really promising |thumb

I already signed up and waiting now for my card ;)

Sure, but I had a sponsor pay for my Epass card. None have offered to pay for any of them this time around.

Im not arguing here. I have already placed my vote in with Paxum. I just dont want to throw away more money only to get my money held up in a few months or years when the next company goes down. We all know its gonna happen, so dont pretend it wont.

[JackDaniel's]

Am I the only one who paid for that damn card ? |cry|

[Nikitos]

Yep, i vote for Paxum also. It seems a lot of sponsors pay via that system already. And i've already got my card:)

[RuthB]

Yep, i vote for Paxum also. It seems a lot of sponsors pay via that system already. And i've already got my card:)

Fantastic, and thanks for choosing Paxum!

We've had even more companies signing up - Smartbucks, Fetish Hits, heck even JFK from Fubar Webmasters has a Paxum card!

|headbang|

[Hermes]

More than 100 sponsors (http://paxumsponsors.net) already pay via Paxum.
Payoneer has at least 50 sponsors (http://payoneersponsors.info).
CashX catching up too.

[blinki bill]

I first saw Payoneer and I almost had a stroke when i saw the fees, there was no way i'll pay that much, better off pay the check 10 euro fee... IMHO Payoneer sucks!!!
Then while i was replacing epass with check i noticed that most of my sponsors offer paxum so i checked them out and the fees are pretty much the same as epass(the biggest difference was the activation fee of $45 but epass had one of $35 for the electron card and one of $5 for the virtual card so it's $40 for epass compared to $45 for paxum, i can live with that).
I've signed up already for paxum, hope more and more sponsors will implement it.

[mrdigy]

more and more sponsors use paxum

[RuthB]

more and more sponsors use paxum

and we're not done yet!! More are coming! |thumb

[ompornnet]

almost US webmaster say that WU not good,hign risk.
now paxum ok

[Fonz]

almost US webmaster say that WU not good,hign risk.
now paxum ok

Roman, is that you?

[pc]

"You've Got Cash! " I just got my first payment through PAXUM. I don't miss epassporte anymore :)

[RuthB]

"You've Got Cash! " I just got my first payment through PAXUM. I don't miss epassporte anymore :)

awesome |thumb

[JustRobert]

Is the only way to load money into an account (to make a quick payment) by wire transfer at a $50 fee?

[RuthB]

Is the only way to load money into an account (to make a quick payment) by wire transfer at a $50 fee?

you can also load funds through your checking account - $25 fee

or receive a transfer from another Paxum client

We will be adding ACH and CC options very soon.

[JustRobert]

Thank You for your quick response, I appreciate that.

Wow, those fees are steep. I believe it was only $3 to transfer between checking account and epass. Might have to bite that bullet in the future but for now, I'll pass.

Damn, I miss epass.

[RuthB]

Thank You for your quick response, I appreciate that.

Wow, those fees are steep. I believe it was only $3 to transfer between checking account and epass. Might have to bite that bullet in the future but for now, I'll pass.

Damn, I miss epass.

I do apologize, I had the fees incorrect. It is actually only $5 for a check load to a personal account.

[JustRobert]

I do apologize, I had the fees incorrect. It is actually only $5 for a check load to a personal account.

Thanks again for your response.

I see this now on the personal accounts page under fees "Loading Funds By Check or Money Order $5"

[Fonz]

I'll just wait for the CC option to become active then. Or a sponsor that pays me (but with my current conversion ratios that could take a few months...)

[Sable]

I do apologize, I had the fees incorrect. It is actually only $5 for a check load to a personal account.

One quick question, can i load funds with checks send to me from my sponsors or only checks from my own bank account?

Sable

[RuthB]

One quick question, can i load funds with checks send to me from my sponsors or only checks from my own bank account?

Sable

Only checks from your own bank account.

[PayoneerTeam]

Hi,

This is an announcement from Sales and Marketing team providing you an update on our platform.

As you may know, Payoneer is rapidly ramping up our offering for this industry. Recently, we brought on an industry rep, Pearl Levy, who will be working with major accounts and our team to support the industry’s needs. Please feel free to email her at pearl@payoneer.com if you want to learn more about the Payoneer Platform for Payouts.

Here’s this week’s update on feature improvements we are making to the platform based on your collective feedback:

• We will be launching a MasterCard Virtual Card very soon.
• You are now able to enter your email address instead of your Payoneer Credit Card to link to different programs. The email address will be the “Username” rather than the “Payee ID” as the identifier. This will eliminate payee IDs and make it easier to look up users within the system to make payments etc.
• We are in development on a feature upgrade that will enable you to find a payee and make payments, regardless of Partner just using the receiver’s email address.

AVN Update: Payoneer will be at AVN in January. We will be hosting a walk-up booth as well as taking meetings with various partners. Stay-tuned for more info and if you want to book some time to discuss your payout needs, email pearl@payoneer.com

Thank you,
Payoneer Team

[John.]

paxum seems to be winning more users than other services

[Cleo]

I received and activated my card today.

[Nickname]

Used my Paxum card for 1 week now and It has worked flawless.

[ecchi]

The email address will be the “Username” rather than the “Payee ID” as the identifier.
Then I most definitely WON'T be using your service. What happens if a client changes their email address? I lost several log-ins when I changed ISP and so had to change email address. Having an email address as a username is truly a sign that the people at the top of your company are too incompetent to trust with something as important as my money!

[PayoneerTeam]

This is Pearl from the Payoneer Sales and Marketing team providing you an update on our platform.

As you may know, Payoneer is rapidly ramping up our offering for this industry.

Here’s this week’s update on feature improvements we are making to the platform based on your collective feedback:

• The MasterCard Virtual Card is now available for a LOW price available for immediate use
• For those of you in Russia or Ukraine, we have partnered up with QIWI services. Anyone can now fund their QIWI account with their Payoneer Account. Payoneer has exclusivity with QIWI
• Business Accounts - Is now available with a short process to register as a business account and to pay your studio models.

Payoneer will be at InterNext next month. We are part of the Speed Networking Sponsorship and have a booth as well as taking meetings with various partners.

If you want to book some time to discuss your payout needs, email pearl@payoneer.com
As soon as we know our booth number, we will let you know.

Please feel free to email me at pearl@payoneer.com if you want to learn more about the Payoneer Platform for Payouts.

From everyone at Payoneer we wish you Happy Holidays.

[girlsdoporn]

is western union international though ??
ive used it local but never outside the usa anyone know ?

[ecchi]

is western union international though ??
ive used it local but never outside the usa anyone know ?

I use them internationally (though with payments originating in the UK not USA), I have never had a problem. However, their charges vary depending on which country you are sending the money to, and for some destinations it is VERY expensive.