Get Touched by AEBN!

[miz_wright]

OK, guys - you've all talked to me about this for a while now -- so here's the announcement!

Now is your chance to be one of the first to promote RealTouch.com (http://realtouch.com), the most innovative adult product on the market!

With RealTouch.com (http://realtouch.com), you can offer your customers the only truly interactive user experience available anywhere in adult. Cash in early on the buzz, and take advantage of the first adult hard product that delivers recurring revenue.

As an affiliate, you can earn one of two ways: $50 per sale payouts or rev share, 20% on the minutes and 10% on the device for the life of the customer. The device sells for $199.95.

RealTouch.com (http://realtouch.com)is a relative motion haptic device that provides men with a true virtual sex experience by synchronizing its movements with the action happening onscreen. RealTouch customers buy the device, and then activate it through the purchase of minutes through the RealTouch website. Hundreds of movies have been encoded for your customers to enjoy, chosen from among the best in AEBN's VOD library.

Your customers are waiting for the next big thing, and you can give it to them. Log in to the Webmasters area of AEBN.net (http://aebn.net) today to start promoting RealTouch.com (http://realtouch.com). If you have any questions, contact your account representative and they will be glad to assist you.

For more information about the device, check out RealTouch.com (http://realtouch.com). Or, hit up your rep! Don't have a rep? You can ask me. I'm usually pretty nice ;)

[Greenguy]

NICE! I've got my banners up |thumb

[bDok]

I'll be putting some banners up tomorrow and trying to drive a little traffic.

[Cleo]

I added both the straight and gay banners and text links in today. Now all I need is some guys to stick their dicks in it.

[Simon]

I'd like to suggest adding this as an option in our AEBN custom theaters.
It seems like it would be a good place to suggest someone gets a RealTouch.

We can add links on our other sites/pages, but it would be nice to have a way to include promos for the RealTouch in our customized AEBN theaters too.

:)

[Ramster]

Banner up :)

[NY Jester]

Thats a very good idea Simon

[miz_wright]

I'd like to suggest adding this as an option in our AEBN custom theaters.
It seems like it would be a good place to suggest someone gets a RealTouch.

We can add links on our other sites/pages, but it would be nice to have a way to include promos for the RealTouch in our customized AEBN theaters too.

:)

Simon - we will have RealTouch ad zones in theatres shortly, though due to the wildly divergent price points on a minutes package vs a RealTouch device, I wouldn't expect crazy conversions there. I have a pretty strong conviction that it's going to do better for people as a separate promotion, despite its presence within the AEBN program.

[GonZo]

Heres a GG&Js exclusive.

My google rep which is local bought one of these on the early adopters program [whoa] and he was totally confused to find movies to get his jerk on.

As soon as they separated it out of theatre this guy has worn it out.

These guys are actively comparing notes on which vids they like the best etc and they are addicted. He was out of minutes within a week and more than happy to pay for more.

These first adaptors are going to spend mega bucks on it. Thats why its important to get links up quickly ... a wise man said ...do you want someone else to get your best customers?

The first adaptors are the same guys that make 6 figures and buy every newtech gadget out there. They already have placed an order for an Ipad earlier this week and start in a low 6 figure income range.

What Im saying is.... the faster you get your links up the better chance you have of getting a big spender for life.

...just saying

[Linkster]

Liz - for some reason I cant add you to icq - so here goes - I sent an email to your support addy and would like someone to look at it please??? Thanks in advance

[bluebrit]

Banners up |thumb

[miz_wright]

Liz - for some reason I cant add you to icq - so here goes - I sent an email to your support addy and would like someone to look at it please??? Thanks in advance

Will do - what's your ICQ?

[Linkster]

127-670-340 - and thanks

[miz_wright]

127-670-340 - and thanks

Shot over an ICQ to you a bit ago, am having issues w/ my client at the moment.

[Fonz]

Time to put up another blog post :)

[Linkster]

Shot over an ICQ to you a bit ago, am having issues w/ my client at the moment.

Didnt get it - if you could send me an email at linkster at linkforsex.com so that I have a good reply addy, I will send you a copy of what I sent to support

[GonZo]

Didnt get it - if you could send me an email at linkster at linkforsex.com so that I have a good reply addy, I will send you a copy of what I sent to support
Im not a support rep but maybe I can help?

Feel free to add me to ICQ and chances are if its real touch related I can at least point you in the right direct.
And if its VOD I probably know the answer or who to ask.

[Linkster]

Gonzo - I appreciate it but its admin related - seems when they changed my mailing addy they only changed half of it - and then I happened to notice that my stats hadnt been updated since July last year so I have no idea what happened to my traffic or money LOL

[Simon]

Here's a question for Liz or Gonzo (or anyone else who knows).

The basic revshare/straight link to hit the main page of RealTouch looks like this...

http://www.realtouch.com/dispatcher/home?genreId=1&refid=AEBN-044883&rsType=2&salesToolId=33

I'd like to know if the affiliate link will still be tracked correctly if the link pointed to the How it Works page, or the Videos page, or Stars page at the RealTouch site instead of the main page?

Example links that I'd like to be sure will track correctly...

How it Works
http://www.realtouch.com/dispatcher/devicePublic?genreId=1&refid=AEBN-044883&rsType=2&salesToolId=33

Videos
http://www.realtouch.com/dispatcher/videosPublic?genreId=1&refid=AEBN-044883&rsType=2&salesToolId=33

Stars
http://www.realtouch.com/dispatcher/starsPublic?genreId=1&refid=AEBN-044883&rsType=2&salesToolId=33


The only change to each link is the first word that follows /dispatcher/ in each url.

[GonZo]

Here's a question for Liz or Gonzo (or anyone else who knows).

The basic revshare/straight link to hit the main page of RealTouch looks like this...

http://www.realtouch.com/dispatcher/home?genreId=1&refid=AEBN-044883&rsType=2&salesToolId=33

I'd like to know if the affiliate link will still be tracked correctly if the link pointed to the How it Works page, or the Videos page, or Stars page at the RealTouch site instead of the main page?

Example links that I'd like to be sure will track correctly...

How it Works
http://www.realtouch.com/dispatcher/devicePublic?genreId=1&refid=AEBN-044883&rsType=2&salesToolId=33

Videos
http://www.realtouch.com/dispatcher/videosPublic?genreId=1&refid=AEBN-044883&rsType=2&salesToolId=33

Stars
http://www.realtouch.com/dispatcher/starsPublic?genreId=1&refid=AEBN-044883&rsType=2&salesToolId=33


The only change to each link is the first word that follows /dispatcher/ in each url.
I dont see why it wouldnt Simon. There is a lot of tracking for deep linking with regular VOD. If Liz doesnt beat me to it Ill see if this is true for RealTouch. I think the refid in place is the important part.

[Simon]

Thanks for the reply, Gonzo |thumb

And that was my feeling too, that it should work that way.

But...I was getting ready to post that I'd spoken to an AEBN rep yesterday and was told that deep-linkng is coming for RealTouch but right now if you link to anything except the Home page the tracking may be lost.

I'm looking forward to using deep-links when it's working, so if you can confirm either way that would be great.


:)

[Lucifuge]

Do you think deep linking will include links directly to the stars of the movies? Or is that basically what the deep linking will achieve anyway.

[miz_wright]

Do you think deep linking will include links directly to the stars of the movies? Or is that basically what the deep linking will achieve anyway.

It will, and we will actually be launching a star-specific tool here shortly :)

[Lucifuge]

Fabulous, thanks Liz.

[Simon]

If Liz doesnt beat me to it Ill see if this is true for RealTouch.

:)

So far Liz has still not beaten Gonzo to it.

:)

[miz_wright]

So far Liz has still not beaten Gonzo to it.

:)

Simon, your rep was correct - right now, while a hack can be thrown into the URL string, I cannot insure that it will track correctly in the back end. To be sure you receive credit for all transactions, I would only send to the front page at this time.

[tickler]

Please consider some return tracking(cookies,IPs,etc.).

This is not a paysite with impulse buys at a few bucks.

It is a $200 item that surfers will tend to be cost consious about, and do comparison shopping, etc. before actually buying. Probably not returning through your linking code.

Most of my sponsors for physical products in the $100-$1000 range average about a 6 month cookie.

[Simon]

Thanks, Liz! :)

I'm really looking forward to having more linking choices at some point.

And definitely, most definitely actually, what Tickler just posted about return tracking. Without that it won't be worth promoting this for very long.

[tickler]

And definitely, most definitely actually, what Tickler just posted about return tracking. Without that it won't be worth promoting this for very long.
And then they disappear. |huh

[Toby]

And then they disappear. |huh

Liz is currently in Los Angeles at XBIZ

[GonZo]

Liz is currently in Los Angeles at XBIZ

And Im not in Charlotte and my scope on this project has been refined over the last year.

I can tell you that this thing is just getting off the ground.

But I will follow up with Liz.

[miz_wright]

Please consider some return tracking(cookies,IPs,etc.).

This is not a paysite with impulse buys at a few bucks.

It is a $200 item that surfers will tend to be cost consious about, and do comparison shopping, etc. before actually buying. Probably not returning through your linking code.

Most of my sponsors for physical products in the $100-$1000 range average about a 6 month cookie.

Hey, Tickler -- all users have to create a viewer account, which is tied to your ref code. You're golden :)

[Simon]

Liz - I really think Tickler is talking about the *majority* of visitors to the RealTouch site who will not sign up for a viewer account the first time they visit. I say this based on my own stats, which show that only one-third of one percent actually register at the site (that's 3 out of 1,000 or 1:333 who register, for anyone math-challenged).

I would very much like to know that AEBN is putting a mechanism in place to track the other 997 out of 1,000 visitors who do not register but who may come back at any time by simply typing "realtouch' into their browser.

Not golden, not even silver, really not even a bronze awarded on this until long-term tracking is put in place. Can't really justify sending much traffic without that.

:)

[miz_wright]

Liz - I really think Tickler is talking about the *majority* of visitors to the RealTouch site who will not sign up for a viewer account the first time they visit. I say this based on my own stats, which show that only one-third of one percent actually register at the site (that's 3 out of 1,000 or 1:333 who register, for anyone math-challenged).

I would very much like to know that AEBN is putting a mechanism in place to track the other 997 out of 1,000 visitors who do not register but who may come back at any time by simply typing "realtouch' into their browser.

Not golden, not even silver, really not even a bronze awarded on this until long-term tracking is put in place. Can't really justify sending much traffic without that.

:)

Simon, I know that is in the pipeline, but I haven't been given an ETA as yet.

[tickler]

Simon, I know that is in the pipeline, but I haven't been given an ETA as yet.
I noticed the banners running.

Any ETA yet?

[miz_wright]

I noticed the banners running.

Any ETA yet?

Sadly, not anything firm, though I think we're close.

[miz_wright]

We have made some enhancements live ;)

[1394]

awesome product... price point seems a bit high [to get into the product]. real time content is the future!

[tickler]

We have made some enhancements live ;)
|huh

[Simon]

Well, I got my AEBN newsletter, and now we hear that the Paris Hilton video has been encoded for RealTouch and of course we're being asked to promote that, but there has still been no announcement of a longer tracking period (cookies which take longer to expire, etc) or any other *real* improvements or enhancements which are of benefit to the affiliates marketing this device.

(There are now hosted banners and page peel ads...which are useless as long as the traffic is not converting as fast as the cookies are expiring.)

Worse - if you go to the RealTouch site now, you can see a box on the lower left which is surely killing most sales right now! It pretty much tells the surfers you send to RealTouch that they should *wait* until May before spending any money on this product. The text tells the surfer that 7-day rentals, unlimited rentals, and 'free' usage without needing to rent a video are coming in May.

Weird - in the latest AEBN newsletter there is a mention of something that I hope is just about the changes in video rentals regarding the RealTouch but I'll put the text below so you can see why my first thought was "What the fuck? They're going to rent these machines to people and then take them back and clean them up?" ...but I'm sure I must be wrong about that one. :D

From the newsletter:
These tools are just the beginning. Be on the lookout for more great updates to RealTouch.com, including a rental option for customers which will be available soon!

I've built pages and sites to promote RealTouch and wanted to do more but I can't justify sending traffic to a site which seems to be working at cross purposes to my efforts. That box with the "wait until May" text was what caused me to deactivate my links to RealTouch until we see some real improvements...like at least a 6-month cookie to start with.

Just to see how things are going for others... has anyone who is promoting this gotten their first sale of a RealTouch device yet?

Or anyone have another viewpoint on this?

|huh

[bluebrit]

I think I have waited long enough for something worthwhile to happen with this and to date I have not made a sale and to be honest I don't expect to because this is not an impulse purchase and like Simon I don't think the tracking is anywhere near long enough.

I'm busy today but when I return that top spot banner is getting pulled in favor of something that will sell.

[tickler]

Still waiting for 2 months now. Stuff has been setup, but not activated yet. |yawn|

People do not buy $200 items on impulse on the internet. They will look around for comparable devices & better prices at this dollar level. That's why a return tracking mechanism is needed. |huh

Yeah, and the "Coming in May" Rental/Unlimited/Free is a definite sales killer. |catfight| |angry|

Why would someone sent traffic to the site when they are telling surfers pssst: come back later for a better deal. |whisper|

That is really fucked up when there is no return tracking. |club|

Anyone Sold A Real Touch Yet
http://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=953893

[miz_wright]

Well, I got my AEBN newsletter, and now we hear that the Paris Hilton video has been encoded for RealTouch and of course we're being asked to promote that, but there has still been no announcement of a longer tracking period (cookies which take longer to expire, etc) or any other *real* improvements or enhancements which are of benefit to the affiliates marketing this device.

(There are now hosted banners and page peel ads...which are useless as long as the traffic is not converting as fast as the cookies are expiring.)

Worse - if you go to the RealTouch site now, you can see a box on the lower left which is surely killing most sales right now! It pretty much tells the surfers you send to RealTouch that they should *wait* until May before spending any money on this product. The text tells the surfer that 7-day rentals, unlimited rentals, and 'free' usage without needing to rent a video are coming in May.

Weird - in the latest AEBN newsletter there is a mention of something that I hope is just about the changes in video rentals regarding the RealTouch but I'll put the text below so you can see why my first thought was "What the fuck? They're going to rent these machines to people and then take them back and clean them up?" ...but I'm sure I must be wrong about that one. :D

From the newsletter:


I've built pages and sites to promote RealTouch and wanted to do more but I can't justify sending traffic to a site which seems to be working at cross purposes to my efforts. That box with the "wait until May" text was what caused me to deactivate my links to RealTouch until we see some real improvements...like at least a 6-month cookie to start with.

Just to see how things are going for others... has anyone who is promoting this gotten their first sale of a RealTouch device yet?

Or anyone have another viewpoint on this?

|huh


I understand why you'd feel like that's a sales killer, but in all honesty, we've seen conversions go up since we implemented the 'coming soon" news bits. Cookies have also shown a marked increase on conversions for most affiliates, though given the price point and learning curve, it's still a slow sell.

I can totally see where the term "rental" trips your squick factor - but we're talking about the movies themselves, silly! I can't even imagine renting the devices *shudder* Gross. Basically - we've been taking user feedback all along, and the one thing we kept hearing over and over again was users wanted an option to reconsume content over a period of time, or to have a sense of ownership. So that's what we are providing them - content rentals. There are two options here - a proscribed period rental (7 days) in which he can experience the movie however many times he chooses, or an indefinite rental in which the movie remains his to experience at will always.

Please always feel free to hit me up if something is unclear - that's why we're here! - and sometimes, I don't get to the boards that often, with all the other stuff going on in a day.

[tickler]

The return tracking issue still doesn't seem to be addressed? |whisper|

Or did I miss understanding something in the answer? |huh

[miz_wright]

The return tracking issue still doesn't seem to be addressed? |whisper|

Or did I miss understanding something in the answer? |huh

I'm not sure I know which question I missed?

[tickler]

I'm not sure I know which question I missed?
Three people in a row asked the same thing about return tracking. |whisper|

.... but there has still been no announcement of a longer tracking period (cookies which take longer to expire, etc) or any other *real* improvements or enhancements which are of benefit to the affiliates marketing this device.

... this is not an impulse purchase and like Simon I don't think the tracking is anywhere near long enough.

.... That's why a return tracking mechanism is needed.

[miz_wright]

Three people in a row asked the same thing about return tracking. |whisper|

We have implemented cookie tracking, and will continue to work with various settings to determine the optimal length for the tracking, that best serves our webmasters but doesn't cannibalise other webmasters.

Currently, we have a 30-day cookie in place - and we have seen a pretty solid uptick for webmasters as a result. All of our reps are constantly taking feedback, too, and submitting for review on how to best optimist the program to meet the needs of our affilaites -- so please make sure that you let your individual reps know what you would find helpful.

[Simon]

We have implemented cookie tracking, and will continue to work with various settings to determine the optimal length for the tracking, that best serves our webmasters but doesn't cannibalise other webmasters.
A moment for clarification please. I'm not sure at all what you mean by the phrase in bold above since existing cookies are *overwritten* by the next cookie. So the minimum of 6-month cookie that affiliates are telling AEBN are needed for selling higher ticket items are only going to last those six months *if* the surfer never clicks a link on a website where another webmaster is promoting RealTouch. That new cookie would replace the existing cookie and the latest webmaster would get credit for that sale anyway.

The only kind of cannibalization that would really occur is that AEBN would wind up having its own "no cookie" sales reduced because it would be paying the affiliate who originally sent them that surfer (more than 30-days ago) ... as it *should* be doing right now.

Affiliates know the only reason for short cookies is so that the sponsor does not have to pay the affiliate past a certain point. And most affiliates are getting really tired of sponsors who take their traffic and then wind up not paying them when the surfer finally decides to buy.

I know you always try to help, Liz... but I really hope AEBN gets on this Clue Train before it leaves the station.

:)

[ppo_tommy]

how is everyone doing today i am new on here an trying to get the feel for things

[Useless]

how is everyone doing today i am new on here an trying to get the feel for thingsSomeone needs to fine tune their bot.

[bDok]

Someone needs to fine tune their bot.

yea sorry about that. He was suppose to be posting at the zoo. Fed him the wrong url today. |lol|

(i kid. That is not my bot! Mine just spits segmentation fault.) ;)

[tadpole]

Hi

I have just made my first theatre at AEBN, anyone know if we can host them off our own sites, or can we only send traffic through our links?

[Greenguy]

The AEBN Theater is MASSIVE - I don't think you want to host it on your servers, even if you could :)

You just link to it - but you can also set up a CNAME so that it looks like it's on your domain:
http://movies.link-o-rama.com/

[tadpole]

lol, I rightfully feel stupid! The CNAME is what I was after, I will insert a couple of matchsticks and I might see it this time!

Thanks