Sensational Cash Is Fucking Moronic

[Greenguy]

I sometimes wonder how these people actually make money.

I was in the process of creating a new category, so I was looking for paysites to move over there. So I click on the link for Girls Gone Black:
http://join.girlsgoneblack.com/track/MTU3NDczMTo0OjI1/
It takes me to this generic warning page for their multisite, Sensational Pass:
http://www.sensationalpass.com/?nats=MTU3NDczMToxMDozNQ,0,0,0,0

So I go to their contact page & I see this:
Technical Support:
For questions regarding errors in services, transactions, or technical issues.
Email:webmaster@sensationalcash.com
Via ICQ: #158 347 432
Via Aim: clintworks

So I hit him up on ICQ:

Date : 1/20/2009 Time : 4:40 PM
To : Greenguy
just a heads up - some of the sensational cash sites are redirecting to sensational pass
example
http://join.girlsgoneblack.com/track/MTU3NDczMTo0OjI1/

Date : 1/20/2009 Time : 4:41 PM
From : Pimpcash.com
Hi yes

Date : 1/20/2009 Time : 4:41 PM
From : Pimpcash.com
we sent out

Date : 1/20/2009 Time : 4:41 PM
From : Pimpcash.com
notice a few months ago

Date : 1/20/2009 Time : 4:41 PM
From : Pimpcash.com
that we were doing that

Date : 1/20/2009 Time : 4:42 PM
From : Pimpcash.com
The content from Girls Gone Black is in

Date : 1/20/2009 Time : 4:42 PM
From : Pimpcash.com
Sensational Pass

Date : 1/20/2009 Time : 4:43 PM
To : Greenguy
that makes no sense to me, seeing as all my traffic is niche specific & you've got them going to a general tour
I'll just pull the links

Date : 1/20/2009 Time : 4:43 PM
From : Pimpcash.com
ok

Date : 1/20/2009 Time : 4:43 PM
From : Pimpcash.com
we decided

Date : 1/20/2009 Time : 4:43 PM
From : Pimpcash.com
to put our efforts

Date : 1/20/2009 Time : 4:43 PM
From : Pimpcash.com
on

Date : 1/20/2009 Time : 4:43 PM
From : Pimpcash.com
Sensational Pass

Date : 1/20/2009 Time : 4:43 PM
From : Pimpcash.com
since we wern't updating

Date : 1/20/2009 Time : 4:44 PM
From : Pimpcash.com
girlsgoneblack.com

Date : 1/20/2009 Time : 4:44 PM
From : Pimpcash.com
anymore

Date : 1/20/2009 Time : 4:44 PM
To : Greenguy
can you stop hitting enter until you've completed a sentence please?

Date : 1/20/2009 Time : 4:44 PM
From : Pimpcash.com
It is how I type

Date : 1/20/2009 Time : 4:44 PM
To : Greenguy
what about we love booty, assault my ass, etc
you still have the link codes in the admin too

Date : 1/20/2009 Time : 4:45 PM
To : Greenguy
nevermind - have a nice life

Date : 1/20/2009 Time : 4:45 PM
From : Pimpcash.com
you can pull all the Sensational Pass sites if you like

Date : 1/20/2009 Time : 4:46 PM
To : Greenguy
I'm going to

Date : 1/20/2009 Time : 4:47 PM
To : Greenguy
no wonder I'm 0:7005 - my traffic gets confused because they think they are going to a certain niche & they see a generic warning page
you guys are morons

Date : 1/20/2009 Time : 4:47 PM
From : Pimpcash.com
thank you
So there you go. 7000 niche specific hits going to a generic tour & I wonder why my cash flow is not what it used to be |banghead|

It sucks too because they have (or had - who knows) a lot of BBW sites & I think we all know what MML & I can do with decent converting BBW sites.

[Torn Rose]

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[Greenguy]

Here's a list of the sites that they have link codes for, but are now redirecting:
Assault My Ass
Chubby Chicas (actually, that one is 404 (http://join.chubbychicas.com/track/MTU3NDczMTo0OjI0/))
Cock Strokin Sluts
Cream Filled Cuties
Dildo Sensations
Girls Gone Black
I Crave Sex
Jizz Dolls
Mother Humpin
Put It In Your Mouth
Real Dirty Videos
Watch Me Suck Dick
We Love Booty

And it's not like I put up the links without looking - I do actually take a look to make sure everything is legit. The last time I added one of their sites was the end of October 2008, so sometime in the last 3 months they started to redirect, even though there's nothing about this in their admin/news.

[Greenguy]

No Torn

[Greenguy]

if you did it

[Greenguy]

like him

[Greenguy]

you'd post like

[Greenguy]

this.

[NY Jester]

and these people get paid to be moronic...good riddance at 0:7000 I say.

[Torn Rose]

Yeah that was the idea, but I ran into 2 issues at once, I was trying to post one word at a time, but of course you can't do that and to make sure that the editing went smooth, my mouse and keyboard whacked out on me as I was trying to use them, so that kinda pissed me off, so I had to go back and edit my edit post and of course I just wanted to post and be done since I was getting too worked up over nothing.

But that is pretty fucking annoying, as I was reading that chat I was thinking it was IM program fucking up.

[bluebrit]

Thanks for the heads up Greenie. I already have plenty of stats getting close to figures like that and don't need anymore. I did have them in my 'to join list' but now their history :)

Over the past year my stats have taken a nose dive and some programs are just horrendous so either I am doing something very wrong or I need to find a lot of new programs to promote and that means cleaning house on the sites I run.

You just saved me a lot of work for no gain and I can turn my attention to other new sponsors |thumb

[ArtWilliams]

Date : 1/20/2009 Time : 4:47 PM
To : Greenguy
no wonder I'm 0:7005 - my traffic gets confused because they think they are going to a certain niche & they see a generic warning page
you guys are morons

Date : 1/20/2009 Time : 4:47 PM
From : Pimpcash.com
thank you

|lol|

[Useless]

I think he gets paid based on how many times he hits his enter key. That's the only possible explanation for that.

[HowlingWulf]

Just checked my Sensational Cash stats for 2008 and it's a balmy 0:21479
Ooops. Pulling all links tomorrow.

[NY Jester]

My sales are as good as the two of you....and I dont even have an account.



|couch|

[InfoGuy]

Even PimpCash.com redirects to PlumperPass.com. You would think that they would redirect their webmaster traffic to their affiliate program instead of a tour. These guys are clueless.

[Ramster]

The best line is when he says they wern't updating girlsgoneblack.com anymore.

So they opened sites and stopped updating them all? Nice!

[Greenguy]

Just checked my Sensational Cash stats for 2008 and it's a balmy 0:21479
Ooops. Pulling all links tomorrow.
That's why I start these threads. At least I saved 1 person from throwing away good traffic.

And, they do know about this thread, because I sent it to Creeper (the head moron over there) I guess, like the goofball I spoke to on ICQ, they enjoy being thought of as moronic.

[MadCat]

Hm, I'd drop them like a hot brick. Usually when shit like this happens (sites close down and start redirecting to a single site), it's prelude to the entire program doing one of them grab 'n scoot things.

Don't think they'll be around for much longer.

[CumSensei]

Haha good reading. :)

[plateman]

Hm, I'd drop them like a hot brick. Usually when shit like this happens (sites close down and start redirecting to a single site), it's prelude to the entire program doing one of them grab 'n scoot things.

Don't think they'll be around for much longer.
or like backdoor cash, grab the cash and hit the backdoor

[LD]

I hate to laugh at Greenie's frustration, but that is some funny shit...:)

"nevermind - have a nice life"

[GonZo]

That's why I start these threads. At least I saved 1 person from throwing away good traffic.

And, they do know about this thread, because I sent it to Creeper (the head moron over there) I guess, like the goofball I spoke to on ICQ, they enjoy being thought of as moronic.

Damn GG... you said people love me cuz Im a smart ass.
You win!

[SensationalCash]

Hey Guys, hey Greenie,
Let me start of by saying that were all in this to make money, knowing that we were forced to shut down some of our sites. Weve been working tirelessly for the past 12 months to totally revamp our entire content management system, our servers, our sites and our customer service not to mention we shifted 100% of our resources to the BBW niche, we removed the galleries in question about 4-5 months ago. Nonetheless this was a big oversight on our part for not sending out information regarding our shutting down of our sites.

Just wanted to apologize for the above incident with us which was unfortunate, we dont want any of our affiliates to feel the way you felt during that conversation. I put myself in your shoes and I would have felt the same way and done the exact same thing, this is why this employee has now been fired. Again, I apologize.

That being said I wish youd give us another shot but with our BBW sites since were now updating weekly with 20 new galleries (wmv, flash, photo) and banners.
I see here your ratio is 0:7055 our top affiliates ratios are 1:22, 1:34, 1:60, 1:73.
Overall Plumperpass.com ratios on average are 1:200.

If youd like to talk in more detail and in a private
please find me in on AIM: mixshows3
Or email me at my account address
You wont regret it,
Thanks

Cisco
Sensational Video

[Useless]

Allow me to introduce you to my friend, the apostrophe.

[HowlingWulf]

I see here your ratio is 0:7055 our top affiliates ratios are 1:22, 1:34, 1:60, 1:73.


I assume those ratios are from links that aren't redirecting the surfer to another site than the one intended?


Overall Plumperpass.com ratios on average are 1:200.


My overall Plumperpass ratio is 1:4481
I rock.

[Greenguy]

Great. Now I'm getting people fired.

Contradiction #1
...knowing that we were forced to shut down some of our sites...
Date : 1/20/2009 Time : 4:43 PM
From : Pimpcash.com
we decided

Date : 1/20/2009 Time : 4:43 PM
From : Pimpcash.com
to put our efforts

Date : 1/20/2009 Time : 4:43 PM
From : Pimpcash.com
on

Date : 1/20/2009 Time : 4:43 PM
From : Pimpcash.com
Sensational Pass

Date : 1/20/2009 Time : 4:43 PM
From : Pimpcash.com
since we wern't updating

Date : 1/20/2009 Time : 4:44 PM
From : Pimpcash.com
girlsgoneblack.com

Date : 1/20/2009 Time : 4:44 PM
From : Pimpcash.com
anymore

Contradiction #2
...Nonetheless this was a big oversight on our part for not sending out information regarding our shutting down of our sites...
Date : 1/20/2009 Time : 4:40 PM
To : Greenguy
just a heads up - some of the sensational cash sites are redirecting to sensational pass
example
http://join.girlsgoneblack.com/track/MTU3NDczMTo0OjI1/

Date : 1/20/2009 Time : 4:41 PM
From : Pimpcash.com
Hi yes

Date : 1/20/2009 Time : 4:41 PM
From : Pimpcash.com
we sent out

Date : 1/20/2009 Time : 4:41 PM
From : Pimpcash.com
notice a few months ago

Date : 1/20/2009 Time : 4:41 PM
From : Pimpcash.com
that we were doing that

So this guy, who was fired, basically told me the complete opposite of what was the truth? If so, why did Creeper tell me this via ICQ:
Alright, we sent out a newsletter sometime last year in regards to our regular sites we will no longer be supporting them in our cash program or promoting them due to they were not our core niche. We decided to focus more on just Fat / BBW / Plumper related material. This has been like this for over a year now. Majority of the sites are not even accessible for promotion in our cash program. The only thing available is the links.
That's the same thing pimpcash.com told me on ICQ - the complete opposite of what you've posted here. Is he fired too?

My bitch is not so much about the notice or lack there of. Odds are I missed it. But this would have never come up if I logged into the admin & saw the notice or saw that the link codes were removed (please note: link codes - NOT galleries)

But this is more about where you're redirecting the traffic too now - that bland warning page is not going to convert ANY of the traffic from those old sites. Hell, the main page over there:
http://www.sensationalpass.com/main.php
has links to the old sites. Click one & a new window opens & sends/redirects you to......drum roll please........THE BLAND WARNING PAGE!

It's this that makes me think your program is run by a bunch of morons. 2 people in this thread have wasted 30,000 hits on your sites.

I see no real reason to give you a 2nd chance (or 3rd or 4th - there's a lot of fuck-ups in this thread) And it's a shame because the one niche my company can consistently convert is BBW.

PS - while reading my ICQ history with Creeper, I found this:
Date : 12/13/2006 Time : 7:19 PM
To : Greenguy
I'm getting complaints about you spamming people via the private message system on my board, so I will politely ask you to stop

Date : 12/14/2006 Time : 10:26 AM
From : Creeper
Spam is a big word. I only sent 2 pms.

Date : 12/14/2006 Time : 10:26 AM
From : Creeper
But whichever I won't do it again.

Date : 12/14/2006 Time : 10:26 AM
From : Creeper
I don't want no beef over something so small.

Date : 12/14/2006 Time : 10:26 AM
To : Greenguy
and I got 2 complaints - like I said, I'm asking politely for you to stop

[SensationalCash]

Hello Wulf,
What is your reseller username on SensationalCash.com.

Also can you send me a link of where on your site we are? I cant find any of our links or galleries anywhere on http://www.the-xxx-files.com.

Thanks Man
I appreciate it

Cisco
SensationalCash

[SensationalCash]

Hello Greenie,
Everything Ive written to you was and is 100% factual information. I wished I could have changed your perception about our company by working with you directly (heck I have even personally created exclusive promo material for ya ;) but I understand your decision.

Ill be here if you ever ever change your mind.
aim: mixshows3

Thanks Greenie,
Cisco

[SensationalCash]

Hey Wulf,
Nevermind I found your info and 2 of your sites.

http://www.removed.com/
http://www.removed.com/

Would you like me to round up our best photo and flash galleries in a spreadsheet for you?

Also if youd like Ill make custom graphics and galleries designed around your sites, just let me know. If theres anything else I can do for you that you think would help please let me know.
thanks
Cisco

[Creeper]

If so, why did Creeper tell me this via ICQ:

That's the same thing pimpcash.com told me on ICQ - the complete opposite of what you've posted here.

Allow me to explain, there was an error on our part (obviously this wouldn't be happening right now) and when I told you this information yesterday, I was under the impression we had sent a newsletter out notifying our affiliates of the change. As I checked our newsletter records we realized that the changed which you are referring to went unannounced. This is a huge mistake on our behalf. I did not continue the conversation with you over the IM because you had already posted this link to me and I can tell you are extremely upset, so instead of adding more fuel to the fire I decided to get to the bottom of it (and hopefully defusing it). Sorry for not getting back at you almost immediately.

We've been so focused on improving our Plumper / BBW niche that we disregarded what was left of Sensational Pass in the mist. The sites weren't converting, it virtually seem like no one was interested in promoting us on those niches, we canned them from our cash program.

Again, you are correct we should had notified all our affiliates of such change. I myself was not inform of the tour change that is why you came to me as a surprise when you IMed me extremely upset. We did remove them from the cash program so no other new affiliates would be allowed to use them.


But this is more about where you're redirecting the traffic too now - that bland warning page is not going to convert ANY of the traffic from those old sites. Hell, the main page over there:
http://www.sensationalpass.com/main.php
has links to the old sites. Click one & a new window opens & sends/redirects you to......drum roll please........THE BLAND WARNING PAGE!

It's this that makes me think your program is run by a bunch of morons. 2 people in this thread have wasted 30,000 hits on your sites.

Now why they got redirected to the warning page, well that decision was made by that individual we just fired.


I see no real reason to give you a 2nd chance (or 3rd or 4th - there's a lot of fuck-ups in this thread) And it's a shame because the one niche my company can consistently convert is BBW.

I see 2 huge mess ups on our behalf. We treated you poorly, and we did not inform you of this. You have every right as the customer to not use us again, but I will say this. If you check our main site www.plumperpass.com and then you go and check out www.sensationalpass.com you will be able to tell as to why we are no longer supporting / promoting those sites in our cash program.

Like Cisco [Sensational Cash] said:
We've been working tirelessly for the past 12 months to totally revamp our entire content management system, our servers, our sites and our customer service not to mention we shifted 100% of our resources to the BBW niche, we removed the galleries in question about 4-5 months ago. Nonetheless this was a big oversight on our part for not sending out information regarding our shutting down of our sites.

We are trying to meet our customer / fan base demand by giving them an overall user friendly experience on our BBW sites and also working with our affiliates to give them the tools, and request they need to make this happen. Our next phase is truly to revamp our Sensational Cash program. Again, extremely sorry that we disappointed you, but I don't want this to go down like you are perceiving it. We aren't making a Houdini act and disappearing. We are striving to make our Plumper sites to be known. Now as a webmaster yourself and everyone here.. you guys can't deny we all make mistakes. We aren't trying to hide or turn a blind eye and pretend this didn't go down. We seriously, messed up and we apologize. It was a waste of time for you guys and a waste of time for us as well .. no one ends up winning.

Hope that clears things up.

Btw, Greenie;

That old log you found was from about a year ago I believe. And ever since I stood by my words.

- Creeper @ Sensational Cash.

[HowlingWulf]

Hey Wulf,

Would you like me to round up our best photo and flash galleries in a spreadsheet for you?

Also if youd like Ill make custom graphics and galleries designed around your sites, just let me know. If theres anything else I can do for you that you think would help please let me know.
thanks
Cisco

No thanks. I understand people make mistakes but it's easier and makes more business sense to remove/replace the links.

[the New Shemp]

- It is how I type -

thats almost as good as "congrats to the winners"

[CumSensei]

Hey Wulf,
Nevermind I found your info and 2 of your sites.

http://www.removed.com/
http://www.removed.com/

Would you like me to round up our best photo and flash galleries in a spreadsheet for you?

Also if youd like Ill make custom graphics and galleries designed around your sites, just let me know. If theres anything else I can do for you that you think would help please let me know.
thanks
Cisco

You think its ok to show his sites here? Maby he did not want anyone to know that he own those? I would be real pissed if some sponsor showed my sites out for everyone to see unless I had posted them my self.

[Useless]

You think its ok to show his sites here? Maby he did not want anyone to know that he own those? I would be real pissed if some sponsor showed my sites out for everyone to see unless I had posted them my self.What he said.

[Cleo]

I too was shocked when I saw HowlingWulf's sites posted by a sponsor.

[Greenguy]

I too was shocked when I saw HowlingWulf's sites posted by a sponsor.
I completely missed that yesterday - I've edited the posts.

[Evil Chris]

Wow.... some people should just stay away from bulletin boards!

[Simon]

- It is how I type -

thats almost as good as "congrats to the winners"

I gotta say my favorite is still when that rep asked Dr Bizzaro if he told other reps:

"I already have a pornographer, sorry" |lol|

link (http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/showpost.php?p=281470&postcount=12)

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[NY Jester]

Wow.... some people should just stay away from bulletin boards!

computers and sharp objects too |angry|

[Jel]

I gotta say my favorite is still when that rep asked Dr Bizzaro if he told other reps:

"I already have a pornographer, sorry" |lol|

link (http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/showpost.php?p=281470&postcount=12)

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I'd forgotten about that thread lol, currently on page 3, gonna grab a coffee and settle down to read the rest of it :)

[mr.sexbankroll]

Date : 1/20/2009 Time : 4:44 PM
To : Greenguy
can you stop hitting enter until you've completed a sentence please?

insert me doing the international cheering symbol haha