Who wants to start some CJs 2009

[Undisputed1]

To try again at a failed attempt from 2005 (not b/c it can't work but the webmasters never got together)

The basic philosophy is to jerk the surfers around till they get mad for getting nothing and they grab their CC to signup. Hence the name CJ (Circle Jerk) CJ = Circle Jerk and about 80-100% to trades. Also can be used to pump your tgps/mgps.

1 exit console max and no entry console

The niches will be teen & general.

PM me or ICQ 326-455-566 (Preferred)

[secretagentwilly]

Has this ever worked?

[HowlingWulf]

I think the current trend is towards free porn tubes.

[Romie]

Has this ever worked?

It worked great in 97 where there was nothing else around ;)

[NY Jester]

Id rather count my cash than my clicks. CJ's do no one any good, especially the surfer. I'll pass.


Come to think of it, wasn't this a topic on OTB Saturday? Oh MML...I can hear your words echoing now :)

[Star Man]

Whats the point of spinning surfers around and around like that if they only end up at another bullshit TGP instead of your sponsors site?Besides isn't that something that would work best with your own network of CJ sites anyhow?I guess don't really get whole CJ thing.

[Undisputed1]

Whats the point of spinning surfers around and around like that if they only end up at another bullshit TGP instead of your sponsors site?Besides isn't that something that would work best with your own network of CJ sites anyhow?I guess don't really get whole CJ thing.

you and the above guy obviously missed the "traffic pump" part. Modern CJs are used to send all the bullshit traffic to your low or no skim sites. Think of it as a filter, not just by its title

[Undisputed1]

Id rather count my cash than my clicks. CJ's do no one any good, especially the surfer. I'll pass.


Come to think of it, wasn't this a topic on OTB Saturday? Oh MML...I can hear your words echoing now :)

clicks = cash |thumb but you're right sales make more in the long run, again which is why you have low/no skim sites :D

[Pagan]

I don't ever remember this working for anyone anytime anywhere. Anytime you deceive your visitors, they are not going to grab their CC to signup, they are simply going to leave and never ever return. Dont' even think of them clicking on a sponsors link. What might have worked marginally in 1997 ain't going to work now -- surfers are a whole lot wiser.

Have you ever wondered why LLs like Link-o-Rama and Tommy's and a handful of others have been around for over 10 years and are still in the top 10? Look at their inbound traffic. Is it from a lame CJ? I don't think so.

To try again at a failed attempt from 2005 (not b/c it can't work but the webmasters never got together)

The basic philosophy is to jerk the surfers around till they get mad for getting nothing and they grab their CC to signup. Hence the name CJ (Circle Jerk) CJ = Circle Jerk and about 80-100% to trades. Also can be used to pump your tgps/mgps.

1 exit console max and no entry console

The niches will be teen & general.

PM me or ICQ 326-455-566 (Preferred)

[Undisputed1]

I don't ever remember this working for anyone anytime anywhere. Anytime you deceive your visitors, they are not going to grab their CC to signup, they are simply going to leave and never ever return. Dont' even think of them clicking on a sponsors link. What might have worked marginally in 1997 ain't going to work now -- surfers are a whole lot wiser.

Have you ever wondered why LLs like Link-o-Rama and Tommy's and a handful of others have been around for over 10 years and are still in the top 10? Look at their inbound traffic. Is it from a lame CJ? I don't think so.

A lame CJ? You're an idiot for several reasons. How do you know this has never worked for anyone? You don't b/c this has worked you douche, and this thread was not started to bash me or CJs. If you're not interested then FUCK OFF and keep the short sighted bullshit to yourself.

[Useless]

A lame CJ? You're an idiot for several reasons. How do you know this has never worked for anyone? You don't b/c this has worked you douche, and this thread was not started to bash me or CJs. If you're not interested then FUCK OFF and keep the short sighted bullshit to yourself.I don't care about this thread's topic, but if you want to start the name-calling, I'm ready to throw down. I can call out a cunt when I seen one, so watch your tone. If you can't manage to make your argument without insulting established members who disagree, then you are the one who needs to fuck off.

In case you haven't noticed, jerking around the surfer isn't very popular here.

[Undisputed1]

Your name is "Useless" for a reason |thumb & established? Look at my reg date fuck head.

[Fonz]

Anyone else wants some |popcorn| ?

[JackDaniel's]

Anyone else wants some |popcorn| ?

Me me :D |popcorn|

[LD]

Weren't these more popular at one time? I remember I stopped porn surfing because I hated them so much...:(

[Useless]

Your name is "Useless" for a reason |thumbHey dumb fuck - I named myself Useless. Why would it bother me to be called useless? I suppose you are too stupid to get the joke, just like the rest of the unoriginal fucktards who have called me useless when coming up empty on brain matter.

& established? Look at my reg date fuck head.Look at my cock, you filthy sack of cunt. Registering on a board doesn't make you an established member of the community. It makes you either a pussy who is too afraid to post, or a professional leach who sits lurking the boards while never offering anything back. You're just another dumb cunt who brings nothing to the table. Eat me.

[Undisputed1]

^ hey Useless. You're lame. Get lost. BTW Pagan doesn't have much more posts than me but he's "established" LMAO and i'm the cunt.

[Cleo]

Turn off your popup blocker, Click My Circle Jerk (cleos-porn-links.com/hell/) and enjoy.

[Undisputed1]

Turn off your popup blocker, Click My Circle Jerk (cleos-porn-links.com/hell/) and enjoy.

yeah that's the old days of CJ and popup Hell, totally not the point of this. If a TGP sends 60% or more to trades then its technically a CJ |thumb

[Greenguy]

No one will dispute it....you're the #1 Asshole |haha

Like my Useless friend said: "In case you haven't noticed, jerking around the surfer isn't very popular here."

[Undisputed1]

No one will dispute it....you're the #1 Asshole |haha

Like my Useless friend said: "In case you haven't noticed, jerking around the surfer isn't very popular here."

Then Mr Greenguy you need to change your damn forum description:

Link & Traffic Trades
Link Lists, TGPs, PicPosts and any other way to trade traffic

And I get bashed, lol. Who's the ass, yet again...

[Useless]

^ hey Useless. You're lame. Get lost. BTW Pagan doesn't have much more posts than me but he's "established" LMAO and i'm the cunt.SHE is an established member of this community. You are nothing but some downward spiraling half-wit who doesn't know when to quit. In fact, that would be my suggestion: QUIT.

[Useless]

And I get bashed, lol. Who's the ass, yet again...You are getting bashed for being an asshole. Before you decided to be a douche, everyone was merely disagreeing with your proposal.

[Undisputed1]

You are getting bashed for being an asshole. Before you decided to be a douche, everyone was merely disagreeing with your proposal.

You use the word merely like the disagreements were suttle. Hey Useless. Eat a dick.

Nice board you got here Greenguy, and great community [sarcastically]

[Undisputed1]

SHE is an established member of this community. .

You're extremely protective, lol, how's her cunt taste? Douche

[SheepGuy]

You're extremely protective, lol, how's her cunt taste? Douche
|yawn|
I was hoping for a good duel here, but you're just not up to it. Why not try GFY or some such, work on your skills a bit?
Come back when you're funny.

[Undisputed1]

|yawn|
I was hoping for a good duel here, but you're just not up to it. Why not try GFY or some such, work on your skills a bit?
Come back when you're funny.

ok

[Pagan]

Number one, I read far more than I post, and I rarely post unless I have a point I want to make. The point I was attempting to make to you is that this method has been tried before and *possibly* worked for a few. I HATE sites that do nothing but run me in circles. Why would I ever want to build one, be a part of one, or even encourage one?. What you choose to do with your visitors is your business. There are a good number of newer webmasters here that are quite impressionable, and really don't need to be lead down your path.

You must also note that I called the idea of the circle jerks lame, not you or anyone else. If you don't know enough to feed your visitors what they want, perhaps you might fall into the category of being lame as well. NOTE THE OPERATIVE WORDS HERE. I underlined them and put them in bold just for you.

I really want to thank the gentlemen for stepping up to the plate here, but this one gets to be mine. <removes her velvet gloves and politeness>

Where the fuck do you get off coming onto a board and absolutely cussing out anyone who even remotely disagrees with you? Do you really think you will win anyone to your viewpoint with your retarded method of marketing? All you have shown is your total lack of class and maturity.

*I* pointed out some logical objections to a circle jerk without calling you or anyone else names. You got personal with it, and you insulted others here. Pull your head out of your ass, if you can reach that far (and I sincerely doubt you can), wipe the shit out of your eyes, and read.....

You are one of the biggest, most ignorant, rude assholes I have ever run across. Now, take your ideas of building any circle jerk kingdoms and shove them back into your ass. Wait.. let me put my boots on and do it for you...

Now, shove that head of yours back up where it belongs. In short, you are totally dismissed, disgusting, and disrespected.

Douchebag and cunt, eh? Go Fuck Yourself...

</replaces her velvet gloves and politeness>

Have a wonderful next life.. somewhere else!

A lame CJ? You're an idiot for several reasons. How do you know this has never worked for anyone? You don't b/c this has worked you douche, and this thread was not started to bash me or CJs. If you're not interested then FUCK OFF and keep the short sighted bullshit to yourself.

[Undisputed1]

Number one, I read far more than I post, and I rarely post unless I have a point I want to make. The point I was attempting to make to you is that this method has been tried before and *possibly* worked for a few. I HATE sites that do nothing but run me in circles. Why would I ever want to build one, be a part of one, or even encourage one?. What you choose to do with your visitors is your business. There are a good number of newer webmasters here that are quite impressionable, and really don't need to be lead down your path.

You must also note that I called the idea of the circle jerks lame, not you or anyone else. If you don't know enough to feed your visitors what they want, perhaps you might fall into the category of being lame as well. NOTE THE OPERATIVE WORDS HERE. I underlined them and put them in bold just for you.

I really want to thank the gentlemen for stepping up to the plate here, but this one gets to be mine. <removes her velvet gloves and politeness>

Where the fuck do you get off coming onto a board and absolutely cussing out anyone who even remotely disagrees with you? Do you really think you will win anyone to your viewpoint with your retarded method of marketing? All you have shown is your total lack of class and maturity.

*I* pointed out some logical objections to a circle jerk without calling you or anyone else names. You got personal with it, and you insulted others here. Pull your head out of your ass, if you can reach that far (and I sincerely doubt you can), wipe the shit out of your eyes, and read.....

You are one of the biggest, most ignorant, rude assholes I have ever run across. Now, take your ideas of building any circle jerk kingdoms and shove them back into your ass. Wait.. let me put my boots on and do it for you...

Now, shove that head of yours back up where it belongs. In short, you are totally dismissed, disgusting, and disrespected.

Douchebag and cunt, eh? Go Fuck Yourself...

</replaces her velvet gloves and politeness>

Have a wonderful next life.. somewhere else!

You truly have no life. Go blog you stupid bitch. With that long ass paragraph.

[papagmp]

Wow - and I thought I was an asshole......

Member since 2005 and 36 posts - must have a whole lot to offer - LOL

WTG Pagan, Useless, Sheep and the rest - put one more stupid fucker in his place.

[Undisputed1]

ouch "stupid fucker" that hurt....right. Take some plastic explosive and run into a room with the rest of you queers and detonate it. Please, pretty please?

[Useless]

ouch "stupid fucker" that hurt....right. Take some plastic explosive and run into a room with the rest of you queers and detonate it. Please, pretty please?What are you, a child? |catfight|

[Bobc01]

Certainly the most "Undisputed" arsehole of the year.

Run along Undesputed or i'll have to contact your parents and inform them what a disrupting little shit you are.

No doubt your teddy will be confiscated and you'll be banned from watching Teletubbies this week.

[Simon]

Undisputed ... I meant to stop by this thread earlier to suggest that since most people on this board don't do/haven't done CJ-style sites, it might be a really good idea for you to start a thread where you could pass along what you know about them and how/why they *do* work for certain things in particular ways. I thought that would have helped you get accepted on a board which is clearly focused on, well, whatever the opposite of Circle Jerking the surfer would be called.

I guess I was too late on this one though. I never understand why someone chooses to take a combative stance on a board, especially when being a bit apologetic can advance almost any cause so much more. And it's always a bad sign when the starter of a thread responds in this manner. It's your thread and your choice how you choose to respond to others here.

Too bad. Might have been at least interesting if this had gone another way, but this is just another stupid drama thread now. Would have been nice to have another useful board member with experience/knowledge about TGPs and CJ sites. We already have enough undisputed assholes around here already...you know what I mean?




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[Pagan]

You know, Simon, I have to agree. I had thought perhaps this poser was intelligent enough to put forth a good argument for his proposal. Outside of his initial post, there has been nothing of any value coming from him, not even a link that others could look at and see if he was just full of putrid hot air, or might actually have had a viable idea worth considering at any level. Any point that one of us has raised has been met with hatred, profanity, and total ignorance.

Now, why would anyone want to waste their time end effort with the likes of Undisputed? I know one thing that cannot be disputed - Circle Jerks mean angry surfers who go elsewhere and do NOT whip out their credit cards. You turn what might be customers into freeloading lookie-loos who just waste bandwidth.

Oh, and one more thing that has yet to be disproven - this has been one of the most Undisputedly sad threads we have had in a long time.

[Greenguy]

I changed the forum description for you :)

[Undisputed1]

I changed the forum description for you :)

Greenguy, you're a bit late my friend. I posted a legitimate thread in the CORRECT forum. The lack of moderation is great here! Bashers stop acting like you care so much about the surfer. You don't give a damn and you know it. This is about making money period. The goal of any business is to make a profit. Ethics are secondary. Especially with the porn business. Where ethics is popular topic. And I repeat any TGP/MGP that sends 51% or more to trades is technically a CJ. Before you bash someone at least no what you're talking about. Also thanks to the knowledgeable people that contacted me via PM. Unlike the "caring" posters in this thread, and my head is up my ass. Talk about confused |crazy|...

[MrMaryLou]

Ohhh "Ethics are secondary" I am sure they will be lining up for trades now :)

[Undisputed1]

Undisputed ... I meant to stop by this thread earlier to suggest that since most people on this board don't do/haven't done CJ-style sites, it might be a really good idea for you to start a thread where you could pass along what you know about them and how/why they *do* work for certain things in particular ways. I thought that would have helped you get accepted on a board which is clearly focused on, well, whatever the opposite of Circle Jerking the surfer would be called.

I guess I was too late on this one though. I never understand why someone chooses to take a combative stance on a board, especially when being a bit apologetic can advance almost any cause so much more. And it's always a bad sign when the starter of a thread responds in this manner. It's your thread and your choice how you choose to respond to others here.

Too bad. Might have been at least interesting if this had gone another way, but this is just another stupid drama thread now. Would have been nice to have another useful board member with experience/knowledge about TGPs and CJ sites. We already have enough undisputed assholes around here already...you know what I mean?




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You're absolutely correct. I took offense when "Pagan" called my proposal "lame". Which was completely uncalled for and if your not interested then just leave! Again that was unnecessary, and frankly I took it personally. Also she said something about caring about the newbie, and not leading them down the wrong path. Are you kidding me? Look at what you're saying. You don't give a damn about a newbie. You should be ashamed of yourself.

[Undisputed1]

Ohhh "Ethics are secondary" I am sure they will be lining up for trades now :)

I like that selective hearing. I was talking about in general, but you obviously didn't get that....

[MrMaryLou]

MMM kinda like selective reality :) and I am not a tool I am a fat fuck get it straight.

[Bobc01]

I like that selective hearing. I was talking about in general, but you obviously didn't get that....

I have a vision of your mother, crying into her crack pipe saying "Where did i go wrong, Where did i go wrong".

Ethics are everything in any business, just that retards like you that give the "Porn business" it's shit reputation.

I suggest you read around the board and see the kind of people you're preaching your bullshit too before making anymore "Uneducated guesses".

[Undisputed1]

I have a vision of your mother, crying into her crack pipe saying "Where did i go wrong, Where did i go wrong".

Ethics are everything in any business, just that retards like you that give the "Porn business" it's shit reputation.

I suggest you read around the board and see the kind of people you're preaching your bullshit too before making anymore "Uneducated guesses".

crying into her crack pipe. Talk about me not being funny? Wow, epic fail...

[Undisputed1]

Ethics are everything in any business


Yeah in the perfect world that we don't live in, you fucking twat.

[Undisputed1]

Typical board. A gang of fags and masculine sluts. Please keep it up, this is quite fun :)

[Bobc01]

crying into her crack pipe. Talk about me not being funny? Wow, epic fail...

Well, something fucked up somewhere for you to have the issues you have.

[Undisputed1]

Well, something fucked up somewhere for you to have the issues you have.

I can say you have serious issues. What makes you correct? You make you correct. LMAO

[Undisputed1]

Is this a christian adult webmaster board? Because you guys are truly idiots.

[Bobc01]

Is this a christian adult webmaster board?

Absolutely, we believe incest is wrong in which case you shouldn't have been conceived.

[Undisputed1]

Absolutely, we believe incest is wrong in which case you shouldn't have been conceived.

finally a good joke from you but you location says "hell" so no. You're just a loser.

[Undisputed1]

MMM kinda like selective reality :)

What world do you leave in? Seriously, I want to know.

[Undisputed1]

Have a wonderful next life.. somewhere else!

Hey, stupid bitch, kill yourself.

[Twiceshy]

Typical board. A gang of fags and masculine sluts. Please keep it up, this is quite fun :)

I take Offence to this remark Im a Slut get it fuckin right Sheeeesh and i love this gang of fags btw.They are a Great bunch * smiles* as she stirs the pot

Oh Merry Christmas

[Undisputed1]

I take Offence to this remark Im a Slut get it fuckin right Sheeeesh and i love this gang of fags btw.They are a Great bunch * smiles* as she stirs the pot

Oh Merry Christmas

Who are you? Fuck off "Slut".

[Twiceshy]

Who are you? Fuck off "Slut".

Say Please Asshole * laffs*

[Undisputed1]

Say Please Asshole * laffs*

|stfu|

[Cleo]

Rumor has it that at least one of the mods is an old fucking dyke so you may want to add a few more labels to your childish name calling.

[Undisputed1]

Rumor has it that at least one of the mods is an old fucking dyke so you may want to add a few more labels to your childish name calling.

I didn't know that there were mods here. Learn something new everyday |thumb

[MrMaryLou]

Wow such a potty mouth are we. Grow up or move on.

[Twiceshy]

Well yanno like Simon said this COULD of been a good thread but since the Undisputed1 Moron of the year can't debate with out taking pot shots or name calling like a undisputed idiot. I figure its just turned into a wasted thread.
And if you can come make me STFU *ROFLMFAO*

play nice Undisputed or You wont get anything for Christmas * laffs*

[Undisputed1]

Well yanno like Simon said this COULD of been a good thread but since the Undisputed1 Moron of the year can't debate with out taking pot shots or name calling like a undisputed idiot. I figure its just turned into a wasted thread.
And if you can come make me STFU *ROFLMFAO*

play nice Undisputed or You wont get anything for Christmas * laffs*

you said say please so again:

|stfu|

[Undisputed1]

Wow such a potty mouth are we. Grow up or move on.

Your members are still throwing shots. Ban me, delete my account or close the thread. :)

[Undisputed1]

Last word: It's interesting how this same exact thread on a different (more popular) board went a completely different direction. You guys are rejects. Have fun bashing new guys. I'm sure they will be more reluctant to post now or disagree with anyone of you for that matter.

[MrMaryLou]

Last word: It's interesting how this same exact thread on a different (more popular) board went a completely different direction. You guys are rejects. Have fun bashing new guys. I'm sure they will be more reluctant to post now or disagree with anyone of you for that matter.
|waves|

[Pagan]

I still really wanted to see even one link, one shred, one logical argument *for* this kind of project. Instead of trying to coolly convince us we were wrong using examples, all you managed to do was a bunch of very pitiful name-calling - the kind of stuff any kindergartener can do. Very imaginative, very uncreative. If you think that is a slam, well, sadly it is.

The point of any argument is to lay your points out and discuss them one by one, without the namecalling. We didn't get personal with the attacks until after you did, if you read back through. I would still like to see one single instance of a successful (monetary - clicks versus sales and factor in wasted bandwidth) circle, though I doubt highly you can show me one. Is it good business? I don't think so. How much traffic do you have to throw at it to get 1 sale? 10,000 hits?

Now.. put aside the wounded ego and discuss this like an adult instead of a child, will ya? Maybe you do have a valid point to make. We just can't find it through all the playground flames.

[Star Man]

Wow,I wish I would have seen this thread sooner,I'm always down for a good old fashioned verbal brawl.So Pagan calls your precious little piece of shit circle jerks lame and she's an idiot huh?

Pop quiz time asshole:

Q:What do you call a TGP that insted of sending you to the gallery that you click on,you get spun around in endless circles?
A:Fucking lame!


Q:What do you call a porn site that hijacks your homepage and fucks your pc up so bad that you end up paying best buy 100 bucks just to fix the damn thing?
A:Fucking lame!


Q:What do you call a webmaster that states that he doesn't give a dam about his own surfers and that ethics are secondary all the while attempting to network with other webmasters with a straight face?
A:Fucking lame!


Q:What do you call a webmaster that let's it slide when two men say they don't like the CJ idea but as soon as a girl disagrees he verbally bashes her?
A:Fucking lame!


Q:What do you call a webmaster that even starts a CJ thread in the first place?
A:Fucking lame!


I don't know much about Circle Jerks but I do know this...you are one SQUARE Mother Fucker!

[Star Man]

How much traffic do you have to throw at it to get 1 sale? 10,000 hits?
I'm guessing that it's not about hits.Porn is just the front.What happens is the surfer gets a really nasty Virus/Trojan hijacks their homepage and attempts to sell the surfer a anti virus program to fix the problem.I just got hit with one a few weeks ago and had to reformat my hardrive.

Undisputed1 you already confessed that you don't give a shit about surfers so it wouldn't kill you to answer me honestly....do you pull that virus BS on your surfers?If yes,how does that convert? I'm dying to know.Just blurt it out,seriously.....

[lassiter]

you and the above guy obviously missed the "traffic pump" part. Modern CJs are used to send all the bullshit traffic to your low or no skim sites. Think of it as a filter, not just by its title

I'm known to be terribly dense at times, but I've never been able to understand how that works. If it's bullshit traffic, I'd rather not attract it in the first place rather than send 'em spinning.

OTOH, someone must thnk that CJs work, 'cause there still seem to be hundreds of 'em out there, and none of the links seem to filter anyone anywhere but another CJ. Why even mess with using that bandwidth? I'd love to have it explained to me.

[Jel]

Fags and queers, lolol. Way to really verbally insult people, I can just see everyone now, crying...

[NY Jester]

Simon I have to agree with you. I merely passd on the offer, but I wouldnt have gone against learning a "new way to skin a cat" , but the thread took a sharp and downward turn. Too bad really, but I guess the mentality of the original poster came through just in time. |thumb

Undisputed ... I meant to stop by this thread earlier to suggest that since most people on this board don't do/haven't done CJ-style sites, it might be a really good idea for you to start a thread where you could pass along what you know about them and how/why they *do* work for certain things in particular ways. I thought that would have helped you get accepted on a board which is clearly focused on, well, whatever the opposite of Circle Jerking the surfer would be called.

I guess I was too late on this one though. I never understand why someone chooses to take a combative stance on a board, especially when being a bit apologetic can advance almost any cause so much more. And it's always a bad sign when the starter of a thread responds in this manner. It's your thread and your choice how you choose to respond to others here.

Too bad. Might have been at least interesting if this had gone another way, but this is just another stupid drama thread now. Would have been nice to have another useful board member with experience/knowledge about TGPs and CJ sites. We already have enough undisputed assholes around here already...you know what I mean?




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