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cd34
2008-10-29, 02:58 AM
Mentioned this in the IRC chatroom this evening, but, figured it might interest a few people that are looking to move more towards CSS and away from tables.

http://www.digital-web.com/articles/everything_you_know_about_CSS_Is_wrong/

Cleo
2008-10-29, 07:58 AM
I'm not caffeinated yet but from what I'm reading in my sleepy state of mind it looks like these tags will only work in IE 8 which makes them rather useless.

Licker4U
2008-10-29, 08:16 AM
Damn, something new to learn...|cry|

cd34
2008-10-29, 09:05 AM
I'm not caffeinated yet but from what I'm reading in my sleepy state of mind it looks like these tags will only work in IE 8 which makes them rather useless.

The fresh CSS table-based layout that we’ve just created will display correctly in Internet Explorer 8 as well as in Firefox, Safari, and Opera; the image below shows how it looks in IE8.

:)

digifan
2008-10-29, 09:27 AM
Thanks. I hope you don't mind me posting it on another forum.

Cleo
2008-10-29, 09:32 AM
Espresso is being made...

Ok, I copied the code into a document and it does display properly in Safari but is a bit of a mess in my editor (Adobe Golive 9) so I guess this is another sign that it is time to upgrade to the new version of Adobe Dreamweaver.

A week or so ago I spent a day trying to do a tableless gallery layout that looked like my usual design but was never able to get it to display properly in my usual three browsers but I do have a little better understanding of things like float.

Not wanting to be left behind in the evolution of html coding I ordered Cascading Style Sheets: Separating Content from Presentation, Second Edition (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/159059231X) and it just arrived yesterday.

Cleo
2008-10-29, 10:29 AM
Actually the layout does fail in IE 6.

MadCat
2008-10-29, 12:07 PM
IE6 and IE7 don't know about table-* properties, at all. Even then, if your page is not xhtml strict or transitional, there will still be differences in how things are rendered between browsers.

Spent last friday talking to a webdesigner friend to learn some more about CSS and he said that until IE8 comes out and CSS support in all browsers is more or less "identical", it's a huge pain in the ass to get things to look exactly the same across different browsers.

Simon
2008-10-29, 12:10 PM
Thanks, cd34.

Got your message about that too and I have that marked to look at once I'm done with the newsletter today (which I should be finishing right now but need a break).



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the bear is white :D

Cleo
2008-10-29, 12:31 PM
I've been slowly using more css but I guess I'll be using tables for sometime.

Senator_x
2008-10-29, 01:57 PM
Nothing but CSS. I been using Wordpress since it came out and have been using CSS ever since.

CSS is a must for any webmaster these days. All my site are design with CSS all the way.

ExLust
2008-10-30, 02:10 AM
I've been using CSS to layout sites. And what I've observe table-less website loads faster.

p3rlphr33k
2008-10-30, 07:10 AM
This is nothing new, its just never been main stream because IE never followed the standard. Now that Mr. Bill has left Micro$oft they can continue to develop "REAL" software. IE8 will be standardized and bloated vista replaced with windows7.