Will you list this site?

[CrazySy]

Not much of a difference, but it kinda is different( I call it v.1.15) :D :D :D

Will you list THIS SITE (http://www.teensisland.com/porn/coed-cuties-exposed/)? I am going to test and see how it does and yes I know, one page has 4 outgoing links |boobies|


Lets |catfight|

I hope to hear from link list I usually submit to as well as others. This site will be submitted to only 18 link lists.

[SheepGuy]

Yes

[DangerDave]

No probably not...

One of the things wrong with all these re-designs(no personal offence intended :)).. is that the 'site' has become "secondary" to the ads...

Yes we are all in the biz to make money.. but that site even at 1280x 1024, is one giant ad with recips..

On that page alone the site the 'site' occupies and area about 200x220, while the 'page' is about 1260x900, and if my high school maths is correct that is about 3% of the page...

Murray said it in the other thread... the site is what is/was used to sell.. not the ads..

To me that is just a fukin big FPA

DD

[CrazySy]

Dave, that's why I posted it. I need honest replies and thanks for being honest :)

[CrazySy]

To get back to the point of "To me that is just a fukin big FPA", will removing the top banner make it look any better?

[Lemmy]

I'd list it. Recips are clearly defined as is site navigation. Content is easy to find. "Noise" to content ratio is acceptable.

[CrazySy]

Thanks Lemmy, I think the level of aggressiveness is very similar to THIS SITE (http://www.hotxxxpornsites.com/porn/dirty-teen-slut/teen-porn/), it's just a bit different concept/layout. I think the top banner is what makes it like a FPA? |huh

[Useless]

You know my answer. ;)

The index and main pages have always been nothing more than full page ads. I don't see how that site is anymore aggressive than any other quality free site. All you've done is moved the recip table so that it isn't directly dividing the ad blocks. Perhaps you could move the warning and teaser thumbs higher on the page to perform that function for the more discriminating reviewers.

I really like the bonus page. It's a creative way to make the free site more substantial while giving the surfer a better taste of what the paysite has to offer. It's always easier to build with a single photo set or two, but that may not be enough to entice surfers. That bonus page really lets them no that there are lot of babes to see, not just the three in the main galleries.

[papagmp]

I'd definitely list it - I too like the bonus page. Nice work Sy.

[Porn Junkie]

I like it, for the regular LL surfer, it throughs them off from your A-typical FS structure and makes them actually look at the page and the links.

[JustRobert]

I would and only hope you send it my way. If you only have one spot left pick LegalTeenLust, its traffic is better ;) Pick redheads since 2of3 galleries are. LTL has a hairy category as well for those mirrors you talked about in another thread.

[DangerDave]

Dave, that's why I posted it. I need honest replies and thanks for being honest :)

You know I love you |boobies|

:D

DD

[Magix]

Bonus page is nice idea :) Maybe this will be a new FS v 1.5 :D

[japamor]

I'd list it. I think that's a nicely balanced site layout. Looks real good.

[CrazySy]

Thanks guys |thumb

I'd like to be able to make different sites besides the standard 4 page freesites. I know that index page is heavy, but I think the site navigation is pretty clear. Link list surfers know that they have to scroll down to get to the "Enter" link, and this is no different. The difference is, there is no "Enter" link :D I thought "Main Page" would do just fine, knowing I have links directly to the galleries.

Also, as you can see, the galleries are extremely clean and pics are all in one block. I am not here to FUCK the surfers, I want to test different ideas and see what works, what doesn't. I am going to make my next few sites a bit different and submit them to link lists that will list it (if I get a chance to make more sites for myself :D).

I said it myself on Saturday... Proper advertising is better than aggressive advertising, and yes I know some people might bring that to my face, but I didn't add any extra links to the index page, I just didn't break my ads with warning text or recip table as UW mentioned :D

Keep your comments coming |boobies|

[Magix]

you can also post some of your new FS here on board, it's interesting to some new sites coming and that LL owners list them ( well, most of them ).

And if you don't mind maybe i can use that bonus site idea ? :) Something is telling me ( well, maybe i'm wrong, but still) that "the bonus" site could generate some proper sales

[spacemanspiff]

As usual, nice work Sy. I'd list it.

[CrazySy]

Looks like I am only getting listed at 11 link lists so far :(

But not that dissapointed, because I like the site myself :D

[Preacher]

Sy, I'd list it as well. Nice looking site. |thumb

[Fonz]

I'd list it too Sy ;)

[LeRoy]

Looks good CrazySy. I thought version 1.5 has 40-50 recips.

[Tekster]

Looks good CrazySy. I thought version 1.5 has 40-50 recips.

This is version 1.15. (Pay Attention! |club|)

I would listed Sy.

[annie_cash]

yes, I would list it

[Greenguy]

DAMN YOU SY |angry| Now you've got me thinking |catfight|

I have to agree with DDave on the FPA angle (that rule has gotten very bent in the last few years)

I really do think that if you moved the warning to under the top banner & cut down on the size of the ad on that page, you'd be fine.

Assuming that the ad space on there was decreased & the warning increased, all you'd have is a warning page that links to the galleries as well as the the main page. If you took the MAIN, BONUS, GALLERY 1, 2, 3 text out & put ENTER, EXIT text in there, you'd then have a normal Free Site.

I'm confused as to the goal of this design? I can see the increase of ads on the warning page as a replacement for not seeing the main page. I also see no need for those "MAIN PAGE" links as your main page is really the warning page.

But maybe you're just presenting an option to eliminate the main page?

I'm very |loony|

[CrazySy]

DAMN YOU SY |angry| Now you've got me thinking |catfight|

I have to agree with DDave on the FPA angle (that rule has gotten very bent in the last few years)

I really do think that if you moved the warning to under the top banner & cut down on the size of the ad on that page, you'd be fine.

Assuming that the ad space on there was decreased & the warning increased, all you'd have is a warning page that links to the galleries as well as the the main page. If you took the MAIN, BONUS, GALLERY 1, 2, 3 text out & put ENTER, EXIT text in there, you'd then have a normal Free Site.

I'm confused as to the goal of this design? I can see the increase of ads on the warning page as a replacement for not seeing the main page. I also see no need for those "MAIN PAGE" links as your main page is really the warning page.

But maybe you're just presenting an option to eliminate the main page?

I'm very |loony|LOL, didn't mean to get you |loony|

Am I trying to eliminate the main page? Not really, knowing many curious fuckers still will click on that link to see what's there, so I have three sponsor links waiting for them to click on :D

I am not trying to re-invent freesite structure (as you mentioned, it's not that much different than a standard freesite), I am just trying to be different and also see how sites like that perform as far as sales goes.

I now know that many of you have issues with the ads on the index page, so maybe I build another site with smaller ad space and see how that would do?

I don't know, I just felt like building that site. As many of you know, I build sites for many people ,and I think I am getting bored with the same look after building hundreds of them in a short period of time |huh


Thank God I was not smoking |potleaf|

Keep your eyes open for another freaky looking site |couch|

[LeRoy]

This is version 1.15. (Pay Attention! |club|)

I would listed Sy.

oops please forgive me |bow|

[sue-fl]

Ok..after reading the other post and this one I'm confused |huh I think it's because I read to much??

CrazySy I like that site very much |thumb

But isn't the only difference is that you don't have a main page? My recip tables all ready have 18 to 20 LLs on them and get accepted.

I thought the argument was to be able to link to 40+ LLs on one site?

This is where my confusion comes in!

[stuveltje]

Ok..after reading the other post and this one I'm confused |huh I think it's because I read to much??

CrazySy I like that site very much |thumb

But isn't the only difference is that you don't have a main page? My recip tables all ready have 18 to 20 LLs on them and get accepted.

I thought the argument was to be able to link to 40+ LLs on one site?

This is where my confusion comes in!Sue is hitting it there! oh and the 4 adds thing then a page, hell if you cant manage to sel with 2 or 3 adds then 4 adds wont help either:D

[Mateusz]

As other said the only difference from 'standard' free sites are links to galleries on index page - I've seen and listed such sites in past. There are still 18 recips and not 40 and like other sites you built its very user friendly... I'd list it for sure

[bluebrit]

I like the layout and its not so different from a standard fs format that it would be turned down here.
If you or anyone else wants to submit a new format to me go ahead.
I'll be as flexible as possible with new designs but try to stay within the standard rules so it gets accepted elsewhere and add a comment letting me know i'll be seeing something new |thumb

[Greenguy]

CrazySy - one question I can't seem to answer: Why is there a need to link to the galleries on the warning page if you still have the main page in place? Why not just put enter & exit links on there?

[CrazySy]

CrazySy - one question I can't seem to answer: Why is there a need to link to the galleries on the warning page if you still have the main page in place? Why not just put enter & exit links on there?Greenie, I just wanted a different look by adding the gallery links on the index page, and I kept the main page as it's another opportunity to promote the paysite. (I have no other answer for that question)

I am going to make one without the main page and see how it does, I guess I am just experimenting.

I do want to thank people who are willing to list it.

Also folks, THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH KIT'S THREAD. :)

[CrazySy]

hell if you cant manage to sel with 2 or 3 adds then 4 adds wont help either:DHow can you sell membership to 3 different sites with 2 ads? ;)

[stuveltje]

Also folks, THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH KIT'S THREAD. :)so if Kit didnt posted his thread you would have posted this thread just like that?:D

[stuveltje]

How can you sell membership to 3 different sites with 2 ads? ;)
well i always wonder why the hell use 3 different sponsors on one free sites, be wise use only one sponsor on your free site to the same paysite:D oke make it one sponsor with the same paysite and one link to you own hub:D

[Greenguy]

...Also folks, THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH KIT'S THREAD. :)Seeing as your site looks exactly like Kit's, you picked a bad time :D

[JK]

Sy, your sites never cease to amaze me. I'd have no problems listing that one (but I think it'd be better termed 1.15Beta). However I do agree with Greenie, I see no point in the main page link, it's a little confusing and redundant when you're linking to the galleries from the warning/main/index page.

[CrazySy]

Seeing as your site looks exactly like Kit's, you picked a bad time :DI have had the link list table like that before http://www.pinkhairypussy.com/hirsute/beautiful-hairy-milf/hairy-milf/index.html (2 years old site) I just moved it to the other side, and added the gallery links :D

[CrazySy]

but I think it'd be better termed 1.15Beta). :D :D

Thanks for the input, I am paying attention to every post with ideas :)

[Greenguy]

I'd have to dig around, but I know I've built warning pages with 20+ recips on them & that was at least 3 or 4 years ago.

Everyone thinks I have a problem with the recips lined up on one side & I don't.

Adding the gallery page links is an interesting idea - it does eliminate the main page & your main page becomes the warning page, but I don't see what good that is other than the removal of a page full of ads.

[JK]

it does eliminate the main page & your main page becomes the warning page, but I don't see what good that is other than the removal of a page full of ads.

I think it makes the site a little more surfer friendly, being only one click away from the content instead of two. I'm a believer in the majority of sales coming from the index page, and the few sales I see that come from the main page would not be missed IMO.

[CrazySy]

Adding the gallery page links is an interesting idea - it does eliminate the main page & your main page becomes the warning page, but I don't see what good that is other than the removal of a page full of ads.I will try that for the next site :)

[CrazySy]

well i always wonder why the hell use 3 different sponsors on one free sites, be wise use only one sponsor on your free site to the same paysite:D oke make it one sponsor with the same paysite and one link to you own hub:DI have been using that style in a lot of my sites promoting ATK, and I would have stopped it if I didn't see a benefit. Everyone has a different marketing style, and everyone has a different point of view :)

[stuveltje]

I have been using that style in a lot of my sites promoting ATK, and I would have stopped it if I didn't see a benefit. Everyone has a different marketing style, and everyone has a different point of view :)i know and i know your sites, i have reviewed and list them many times:D|waves| its always nice when people dont know what list i review for....:D

[CrazySy]

I know which sites you do reviews for, and which ones you used to :D :D

[stuveltje]

I know which sites you do reviews for, and which ones you used to :D :Di bett ya you dont, i switch linksites owners again last months:D damn i am sucha dutch reviewing money Ho:D|headbang||boobies|:D i review tgp sites now too and yep i switch linksites too...

[CrazySy]

i bett ya you dont, i switch linksites owners again last months:D damn i am sucha dutch reviewing money Ho:D|headbang||boobies|:D i review tgp sites now too and yep i switch linksites too...I'll keep stalking you until I find out who else you do reviews for :D |waves|

[stuveltje]

I'll keep stalking you until I find out who else you do reviews for :D |waves|
hahahah your not the only one, i have just one reason to not tell who i am reviewing for.........|cry|i have a weakness for friends submitters, but heay i have to be by the rules for the linksite owner, sure i tell them its a good submitter, i know them......but if the boss say no, then its no.....see not all of the persons i know who submit understand that, even if i explain them why......but they all say...hey you know me...yes i know you, but i am not the linksite owner....but it are the bosses rules and what boss say will happen (oke so yes i have some input there, but i cant rule all and most i say will happen....yes i have some power, but still its not my list) :) so thats why i keep it a secret who i am reviewing for

[tigermom]

I like it and would gladly list it. What I like about it the most is that it's different than the usual 4 pages format. I wouldn't like to see this or any other format become THE only possible FS format.

I like the bonus page too btw, just one pic per girl is a great teaser. Of course, you could do the galleries that way too, but this way it's more interesting.