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Greenguy
2004-02-06, 04:58 PM
I just had my PayPal account terminated because of "mature transactions"

Long story short, I was sending a partner of mine money for a project over the last few weeks. Well, his email address is an adult site & thus, they are assuming that the money is "mature" & have cancelled me.

So, just a word of advice - use a non-adult or ISP email addy for your PayPal stuff, because they are watching.

Cleo
2004-02-06, 05:00 PM
That is just so fucked up. |angry|

backoffbitch
2004-02-06, 05:06 PM
that's what I have bene doing, any payments I get are from ISP emails only. I even tell people NOT to mention websites in their 'reason' fields.

Greenguy
2004-02-06, 05:07 PM
The fucked up thing is that his PayPal accout is still active!!!!!

The accused me of buying something from the site he's got in his email addy, so you'd think they'd have cancelled his.

Odd thing is, that site sells nothing at all - LOL

backoffbitch
2004-02-06, 05:17 PM
Originally posted by Greenguy
The fucked up thing is that his PayPal accout is still active!!!!!

The accused me of buying something from the site he's got in his email addy, so you'd think they'd have cancelled his.

Odd thing is, that site sells nothing at all - LOL


sometimes paypal just likes to close accounts for silly reasons... did they freeze anything in it? If so, they might have just used it as an excuse to freeze those funds to keep for themselves.

MrMaryLou
2004-02-06, 05:29 PM
That so sucks :(

DangerDave
2004-02-06, 05:50 PM
Thats really fuked up..:(

and a bit scary..... time to change some addresses.......

DD

Dr Bizzaro
2004-02-06, 06:11 PM
Paypal can take their high charges and even higher morals and shove them up their ass.

I am trying to get people to use Epassporte when sending me money.

Surfn
2004-02-06, 06:19 PM
You just found out what I found out in early December |sad| I have a few hundred sitting in there and have no idea how to get it out. |lightsabe


But I will! :D

Torn Rose
2004-02-06, 06:32 PM
GG and Surfin

Don't quote me, but I think they will keep your account froze for 6 months then release it, that way it's covered for chargebacks

total BS if you ask me.

BTW GG, I was wondering how long it would be for someone to use that avatar.

|rasta|

Ramster
2004-02-06, 06:32 PM
Request an ATM card or add your bank account.

That is weird to freeze you for sending money. I can see receiving, but sending?

Greenguy
2004-02-06, 06:40 PM
I had no money in there, so I'm not out anything.

I don't have one of their CC or ATM cards, but I do have the business account & my checking accounts are hooked up to it.

DrB - Epassport, if they ever get it the way they said it would work when it came out, would be fantastic.

Jim
2004-02-06, 06:46 PM
I agree Greenie...of course.
If Epassporte did what was promised, they would be perfect. Hell, I am only asking for an increase of limit and can't get it.

But, it would be nice to be able to transfer money from Epassporte to a bank account instead of taking out $500/day and depositing it.

Greenguy
2004-02-06, 06:48 PM
I was gonna add "Just ask Jim how good ePassporte is" to my last post, but I didn't want to ruffle too many feathers :D

Jim
2004-02-06, 06:59 PM
I only have two complaints about Epassporte. They never came through with their coming soon plans mentioned a year ago, more or less.

And, I asked for an increase in my daily limit. I filled out the forms and faxed them to them with my personal information and they claim they never received them. I told them I would not fax it a 3rd. time. I was told 2 weeks ago that my limit was approved for an increase and it would be done within 48 hours. I am still waiting for the increase. KimmyKim told me she would take care of it immediately for 3 days and nothing was done. Rand wrote to me and said, "you were increased from $300 to $500 2 weeks ago". The problem with that is that I have always been at $500.

I still use and will continue to use Epassporte. There is just a lot of room for improvement. And still a lot of coming soons that I am still waiting for.

venturi
2004-02-06, 08:59 PM
Greenie, that is totally fucked up. Same kinda shit happened to us around new years. Took 3 weeks of battling via email to get it restored. Mishi found an email for a guy at paypal that has a bit more sanity than the normal reviewers there. She's going to look for it a little later this evening and I'll have her come over here and post it or PM you it.

backoffbitch
2004-02-06, 10:05 PM
My complaint with Epassporte is that I cannot even sign up :(

no CC = no Epassporte. Pretty aggravating.

Sarah_Jayne
2004-02-06, 11:14 PM
gosh, anyone would think they weren't in the game to earn money.

hershie
2004-02-06, 11:35 PM
On Monday, I had someone with a @yahoo.com address ask for my PayPal address as they wanted to send money (which they never did) and then on Wed. PayPal closed my account. When Probilling stopped processing CC's last week, I temporarily said I would accept PayPal and so they must be very aggressive at hunting down adult transactions to have found me out so fast. Be carefull.

NotThatKevin
2004-02-06, 11:35 PM
They did the same thing to me a few weeks back and my email addy was not an adult one. I had just received a large sum in my account and all of a sudden it was locked so I returned the payment to the perosn who sent it to me and then charged their CC on my merchant ok. Stuff PayPal.

vicki
2004-02-06, 11:36 PM
yeah I only use non adult or straight isp emails for them and never put anything adult related in the subject or comments area

I just wish paypal were regulated in some way .. considering they have access to bank accounts

and epassporte, well they really need to follow through on their promised plans imho

DamageX
2004-02-07, 12:44 AM
Originally posted by venturi
Greenie, that is totally fucked up. Same kinda shit happened to us around new years. Took 3 weeks of battling via email to get it restored. Mishi found an email for a guy at paypal that has a bit more sanity than the normal reviewers there. She's going to look for it a little later this evening and I'll have her come over here and post it or PM you it.

venturi, any chance you can PM me that e-mail addy? I have my account frozen atm and it's for an even more idiotic reason, but I can't wait for ever for them to get off their asses and solve the issue... Hell, no one has even replied to my e-mail yet...

Greenguy
2004-02-07, 11:32 AM
venturi - PM it to me as well please :)

kamilla
2004-02-07, 01:28 PM
Sorry to hear that Greenie - that's soo f-d up! |angry|
I got my accounts suspended because I still used an old adult site addy. It took a while, several phone calls, faxes and lots of pulled hair but I got it resolved and re-opend. I now use my non adult e-mail addy Only.
I still haven't signed up for e-passporte but read about it on many boards and so far haven't heard any horror stories (like I have with paypal lol). I will most likely signup with them soon - always good with a backup plan if paypal feels like flippin' out on me again |pissed|

Keyser Soze
2004-02-07, 01:39 PM
Originally posted by backoffbitch
My complaint with Epassporte is that I cannot even sign up :(

no CC = no Epassporte. Pretty aggravating.

Some sponsors will open the account for you with your first payment.

I got my Epassporte account thru ARS and got both virtual and physical cards without ever giving Epassporte my CC info.

Dr Bizzaro
2004-02-07, 02:01 PM
Originally posted by Keyser Soze
Some sponsors will open the account for you with your first payment.

I got my Epassporte account thru ARS and got both virtual and physical cards without ever giving Epassporte my CC info.

As did I with Flashcash.

venturi
2004-02-07, 05:39 PM
GreenGuy & DamageX - you have PMs. |bananna|

Surfn
2004-02-07, 05:46 PM
I've been watching and waiting for Epassporte to become viable for me. Right now it's no better than Paypal to me.

Extreme John
2004-02-07, 09:49 PM
yeah Pay Pal is a wreck, matter of time before they cancel my account too, my email address is "EXTREMELY MATURE" in nature.

Hey Pay Pal
|badafro|

NotThatKevin
2004-02-07, 10:00 PM
What I don't like about epassporte is that to pay someone I have to do a wire transfer to my epassporte account first whereas with paypal you could set it up to use the money from you CC.

dionysos
2004-02-08, 06:12 AM
I signed up with Paypal a few weeks ago using the email
@ pornolistic.com. So now this email stands as my primary email. I just added another non adult email(right now It stands as "unconfirmed". But can I just remove the @ pornolistic? And if I do what about the $ I have under that account(shoud I Withdraw the the $ I have first, ore will they still be there under the new email i signed up, when I have eraced the adult email I signed up under at first place?).

dionysos
2004-02-08, 06:16 AM
Well I just confirmed the new email, and then tryed to remove the old(adult) one, but got this message: "You cannot remove your primary email address." So what now? |sad|

NotThatKevin
2004-02-08, 06:50 AM
Make your 2nd email your primary

dionysos
2004-02-08, 07:05 AM
DOH ......... (next time Ill try to open my eyes before I ask....)

NotThatKevin
2004-02-08, 07:13 AM
|jester| that's ok. I am sure others have done this as well. I know I did :)

Dr Bizzaro
2004-02-08, 09:11 AM
I guess the reason I like Epassporte is because Flashcash opened the account for me. When they did, they paid the fee from what they owed me and deposited the rest of my earnings in there. From that point on, I have been having other sponsors making deposits as well. I never really had to transfer any cash into the account at all myself.
Then I just use the money when I need it. (Like when I'm in Vegas and feel the need to give them even more money at the Let it Ride table.)

But yes, one of the huge draw backs is not being able to transfer the money right into my business account.

DamageX
2004-02-08, 04:34 PM
Originally posted by venturi
GreenGuy & DamageX - you have PMs. |bananna|

venturi, any chance you could send me a new PM with the addy? Just checked my PM inbox and had nothing in there, weird... I'd really appreciate it, thanks!

venturi
2004-02-08, 08:25 PM
ACK! resent mon. I think I tried sending you and GG messages too close together and the script spanked me because of that.

DamageX
2004-02-09, 04:14 AM
Originally posted by venturi
ACK! resent mon. I think I tried sending you and GG messages too close together and the script spanked me because of that.

Thanks man, got it this time! :)

stu19
2004-02-09, 10:39 AM
I spoke with IKOBO...they sound great. Small company trying to knock off the giants...anxious to please...etc. Anyone have any real world experience with them?

Jim
2004-02-09, 11:09 AM
Originally posted by stu19
I spoke with IKOBO...they sound great. Small company trying to knock off the giants...anxious to please...etc. Anyone have any real world experience with them?

stu19
I just signed up to IKOBO to see how it worked. They start you off with a $205/Month transfer limit. I clicked the link to increase that and the most they offer is $5k/month after jumping through quite a few hoops. They are a long way from an alternative to Paypal and Epassporte.

stu19
2004-02-09, 11:37 AM
Hi Jim,

Thanks for the info. I haven't signed up yet, but spoke with Sean in Merchant Support. He told me about the initial $205 limit, but assured me that it can be "easily" raised after the first transaction....said they have several people doing over $50,000 monthly. I'm of the same mind as you...if there is a $5000 upper limit, that's not enough. Since it's free might as well at least sign up...don't want to pass on a possible good alternative without at least taking a look at it.

Jim
2004-02-09, 11:44 AM
I agree Stu...
I am going to sit back and watch to see where they go.

Surfn
2004-02-09, 12:04 PM
I finally changed my FC account over to epassport with instant payout. I'm interested to see where that leads to.

Jim
2004-02-09, 12:15 PM
Surfn
That's how I got my Epassporte card. I have since gotten one for GreenguyandJim but exclusively use my Flashcash Epassporte account.

Rictor
2004-02-10, 07:10 PM
I can't wait until there is a quality alternative to Paypal.

IntelligentWebs
2004-02-10, 10:11 PM
Depends on the biz...

We offer PPC advertising, for adult sites and other sites also based on Search results...

If you are dealing soley in the adult Biz then sort out new procesing to be on safe side.....

The easiest answer is to get approved merchant accounts...

You dont need paypal or Ibill for this...

If you have a long term business then you can get merchant accounts from your local bank with rates of just 3% as we do....

Look into this... If you provide a fully active service and product then any real-life bank will give you a merchant account....

Stop relying on internet billing and talk to your own bank....

Internet billing at 15% are only for those that can offer genuine accounts.....

If you want to move forward then get 100% legit - thats my advice......

Netpiddler
2004-02-10, 10:28 PM
Be very careful of iKobo, my recent experiences with them have been rather.... um, unpleasant. |angry|

Greenguy
2004-02-10, 10:45 PM
IntelligentWebs - what do merchant accounts & online processors have to do with PayPal email & Epassport set up problems?

stu19
2004-02-10, 10:46 PM
Netpiddler:
Care to share any details?

Netpiddler
2004-02-10, 11:02 PM
Hi stu19 |waves|
As much as I sometimes hate to bite my tongue, I try not to make a habit of spreading dirt around unless it is absolutely required. |attention

As with most things, not everyone has the same experiences - or opinions. Mine may have been an isolated incident so I will leave it at that.

I do hope you have great success with them or any other alternative processor. |greenguy|

Sly
2004-02-11, 01:35 AM
Am I the only person who still works mainly with checks? I don't trust any of those money transferring services. Checks are where it's at.

Greenguy
2004-02-11, 07:08 AM
Sly - you're not alone - Flash Cash pay me via ePassport - other then that, it's all checks - I find it easier to keep my books that way.

Of course, that's just for receiving money - you almost need a PayPal these days (adult or mainstream)

DamageX
2004-02-11, 09:47 AM
Originally posted by stu19
I spoke with IKOBO...they sound great. Small company trying to knock off the giants...anxious to please...etc. Anyone have any real world experience with them?

Not yet, but soon!

Fucking PayPal! |angry|

officegirl
2004-02-11, 10:27 AM
hi guys read your details about trouble with paypal.

i had same issues when trying to sell dvd's on my site.

they shut my paypal shopping cart down so i thought fuck you. they froze my account and released funds 6 months later

so ok they did do that !!!

i started using ikobo for a shopping cart - they accept adult sites and are reliable.

i suggest you try them - they are pretty good

here is the link
https://www.ikobo.com/ref.cgi?r=EC010441GB

they do have restrictions like e passporte however they will raise the limit when you ask them too, and also you get an ATM card for withdrawls that you top up when you need more money

hugs

natasha
http://www.officegirls.net