Move to ban animal porn

[Jim]

Is it just me or should this have been done a long time ago?

"The Party for the Animals has become a political force in the Netherlands since the last election and is putting animal rights high on the political agenda. Party leader Marianna Thieme is insistent that animals shouldn't be sexually abused and exploited for commercial gain."

"Currently sex with animals is only banned in the Netherlands if the animal is physically harmed."

http://www.radionetherlands.nl/currentaffairs/por070413

[Cleo]

Yeah it's so much better to kill them and eat their flesh then to be having sex with them.

Personally I find both acts really gross and cruel but what do I know.

Guess you could do both and have a fucking good meal.|thumb

[stuveltje]

lol that talk is going on since the elections last year, they wont ban animal porn in holland, because most of the goverment people like to grab themself a hot sheep:D ( oh and they love to get the taxes money of those sponsors) Ban and loose the tax money....naaaaaaaaaa:D

[stuveltje]

btw i forgot to say, "the party of animals" it doesnt mean shit in holland, because the guy who shot a politican dead some time ago here (because the politician just told what the dutch people wanted to hear) was a member of "the party for animals" and he shot the poltician for an reason which has nothing to do with animals or what ever. And for real..."the party for animals" wont reach anything here in holland! Strange things in that party "not right things". If you care about animals sure, do like the ascpa (or ascap, damn i forget how its written) or the other parties do in USA, then you reach something, but do you think people will be arrested here if they do cruelty to animals like they get arrested in USA, nop, its all bullshit here in holland.

[SheepGuy]

Yeah it's so much better to kill them and eat their flesh then to be having sex with them.

Personally I find both acts really gross and cruel but what do I know.

Guess you could do both and have a fucking good meal.|thumb

Most Middle Eastern countries recognise the following Islamic law:
"After having sexual relations with a lamb, it is a mortal sin to eat its flesh."
In other words, you can't have your sheep and eat it too! :D

As long as they don't oppose animal nudity my sheep site is OK ;)

[T Pat]

Most Middle Eastern countries recognise the following Islamic law:
"After having sexual relations with a lamb, it is a mortal sin to eat its flesh."
In other words, you can't have your sheep and eat it too! :D

As long as they don't oppose animal nudity my sheep site is OK ;)

I spit coffee over that one SheepGuy |thumb

[Tommy]

Yeah it's so much better to kill them and eat their flesh then to be having sex with them.



thats funny |jester|

when I was an apprentice in elevators the old man I worked with use to talk about stories about when he was a kid in Malta and what he use to do to the family's animals, all chickens and goats
very sick but sometimes a little funny. I could never tell if he was just trying to be funny or if he was serious. In the end I think it was a little of both

I spent lots of days listening to stuff like this

you see when you fuck goat, the best is when you take goat to a cliff then you put goat right at the edge so when you stick you dick in him he pushes back a little

[stuveltje]

btw ever saw a guy fucked by a horse.... normal here in holland, 100s of emails are send with these kind of movies...but the difference is look at those movies and you even feel the pain, animal sex....is not only an animal fucked by a guy, it are also people who are forched to get fucked by animals, and believe me as a guy you dont wanna have a stalion cock up your ass....painfull, so to make a point what is animal sex?

[Irvin]

Yes Animal sex is not so good fto show this to people, becouse some of thems can think that it is good way for sex and it is possible to get pleasure with, but it is wrong.

[stuveltje]

Yes Animal sex is not so good fto show this to people, becouse some of thems can think that it is good way for sex and it is possible to get pleasure with, but it is wrong.so if you think so, tell me why?

[zack2004]

Ban and loose the tax money....naaaaaaaaaa:D

Shouldn't that be "baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa"

[JackDaniel's]

Poor animals ... reading all this sick shit made me remember why I love that tv show on Animal Planet called Animal Cops :D

|dog |pissleft| |deadhorse |worm |fish

[stuveltje]

Shouldn't that be "baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa"
no it will be naaaaaaaaaaaa because tax money is more important then other things here! and i know because i live in the damn country and pay 52% tax...now thats BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[stuveltje]

Poor animals ... reading all this sick shit made me remember why I love that tv show on Animal Planet called Animal Cops :D

|dog |pissleft| |deadhorse |worm |fishnow thats what i watch every day, but i still believe alot dont see what animal sex is, you all think its animals abuse, no in porn there is also an other side, lots of people are forched to have sex with animals, and again how will you feel when you get a cock of a horse in your ass.............

[Cleo]

I do enjoy some cock and even a little pussy every now and then.

[stuveltje]

I do enjoy some cock and even a little pussy every now and then.hya miss cleo i was waiting for your answer, so how about a horse cock?

[Cleo]

hya miss cleo i was waiting for your answer, so how about a horse cock?
While some of the humans I've had sex with have had so many surgery and hormonal modifications done to themselves it's debatable how human they still are I draw the line at anything at least not born human.

Should be interesting through the wonders of genetic engineering once chimeras start joining the ranks of human populations and the lines get blurred between what is human and what is animal not that humans in themselves are just an animal anyway.

[stuveltje]

While some of the humans I've had sex with have had so many surgery and hormonal modifications done to themselves it's debatable how human they still are I draw the line at anything at least not born human.

Should be interesting through the wonders of genetic engineering once chimeras start joining the ranks of human populations and the lines get blurred between what is human and what is animal not that humans in themselves are just an animal anyway. oke i understand what you mean, what bugs me is........talking about animal sex, yes in holland its allowed...but goddamn there are 2 sides, i live here i also know that alot of people get arrested because they forche , polish or whatever foreign people to have sex with animals, see it the same as girls from other countries getting to holland, they take your passporte and forche you to fuck guys for money, only in animal sex the persons involved there will be violated in a hard way to forche them to have sex with animals.......dont start about animal sex and the abuse of animals, because there is an other side too....same with some niches in porn

[digifan]

Cleo, babe.. you'd be a superb politician :D

[digifan]

thats funny |jester|

when I was an apprentice in elevators the old man I worked with use to talk about stories about when he was a kid in Malta and what he use to do to the family's animals, all chickens and goats
very sick but sometimes a little funny. I could never tell if he was just trying to be funny or if he was serious. In the end I think it was a little of both

I spent lots of days listening to stuff like this

you see when you fuck goat, the best is when you take goat to a cliff then you put goat right at the edge so when you stick you dick in him he pushes back a little

Your life sounds fun Tommy :)

[stuveltje]

btw same its allowed in holland to have 16 year old people on your porn site , so yes not all is like the USA rules, but when you start about a topic, start to answer when you know all about those rules or what the other side is, you know ever story has 2 sides, its up to you to find out what the good side is , sure you can post what you dont like, but i wonder if every one of you ever think of the fact that there are also people who get forched to have sex with animals, now blame the fucking goverment for that, because believe me.....most like to fuck a sheep or an underage person, our goverment is sick...its all about money!

[Linkster]

Well - I guess if they ban it in Europe people could always move to Texas where its still legal :)

[oldbrad]

Yeah, i remember a guy who died in washington from a perferated colon due to having a horse fuck him in the ass. Apparantly it isn't a law (at least at the time) to fuck animals that are of decent size, but anything that hurts an animal (ie. your dick in a chicken) is cruelty to animals and is a crime.

I cant imagine someone not thinking that a two foot long horse cock in there ass wouldn't hurt them, let alone the weight of it if it decided to ride a little longer.

An article http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002384648_farm16m.html

[SheepGuy]

Yeah, i remember a guy who died in washington from a perferated colon due to having a horse fuck him in the ass. Apparantly it isn't a law (at least at the time) to fuck animals that are of decent size, but anything that hurts an animal (ie. your dick in a chicken) is cruelty to animals and is a crime.

I cant imagine someone not thinking that a two foot long horse cock in there ass wouldn't hurt them, let alone the weight of it if it decided to ride a little longer.

An article http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002384648_farm16m.html

Natural Selection ;) Thank Darwin he removed himself from the gene pool |crazy|

[Saturnin]

The current government in this country is an embarassment, but then they were protesting about someone having 'porn parties' somewhere in Amsterdam the other week. At least the interior minister who's proposing the bestiality ban isn't as much of an idiot as the last interior minister. It's been my dream to start up a business which allows adult websmasters to relocate here (incorporation, residency papers, the lot), since just about anything goes.

Mind you, it's not illegal in NL to force animals to have sex with you, but it is illegal not to speak the language or to overpay for a worthless language course which tells you how to read the latin alphabet or where to pick up your welfare check.

[Surfn]

To me this issue is a "no brainer"

[virgohippy]

Yeah it's so much better to kill them and eat their flesh then to be having sex with them.

Exactly my sentiments. |cry|

[kenny]

http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlLA/original/Steak%20on%20grill.gif

I'd fuck it.. I mean eat it

[lassiter]

Well - I guess if they ban it in Europe people could always move to Texas where its still legal :)

AHEM!

It's only acceptable in Texas as part of fraternity initiations. |horse|

[Linkster]

I should have really covered everyone - its NOT against the law to have sex with an animal in 23 states in the US

Of course then there is the little problem of the state of Washington where its illegal to have sex with a virgin - even on your wedding night :)

[Tommy]

Of course then there is the little problem of the state of Washington where its illegal to have sex with a virgin - even on your wedding night :)

Linkster you sound as if you dont approve of the law in washington

maybe they want women to disvirgin themselves with big bright blue dildos

maybe its an inncentive to help the latex industry and create jobs in this country (didnt think of that did ya)

[Linkster]

Tommy :) Actually thought of setting up a service in Oregon just over the state line to help all those virgins (well the female ones anyway) avoid run-ins with the law |jester| I wouldnt charge much |thumb

[oldbrad]

I got that covered linkster :)

[Trixie]

Oh god. Call me a freak, but if an animal isn't hurt (and the animal belongs to you -- you didn't trespass into someone else's barn or whatever as was the case in Enumclaw) then it shouldn't be against the law. If someone wants to commit suicide by horse cock, more power to them.

It's totally ridiculous that people can breed animals (have you ever seen some of the cruel shit that often goes on in this process?), clone them, butcher them, do testing on them . . . but suck a horse's dick or have a dog lick peanut butter off your pussy? OH GOD!!!! SOMEONE CALL THE POLICE!!! It may be gross and cross most people's boundaries of decency, but it's not something the law should interfere with.

Anyone who eats meat, buys pets from breeders, wears leather, etc. and then tries to make bestiality illegal on principle only is a gigantic hypocrite. It's a fake issue.

[oldbrad]

I eat hamburgers. I don't fuck em.

[FanTC]

Oh god. Call me a freak, but if an animal isn't hurt (and the animal belongs to you -- you didn't trespass into someone else's barn or whatever as was the case in Enumclaw) then it shouldn't be against the law. If someone wants to commit suicide by horse cock, more power to them.

It's totally ridiculous that people can breed animals (have you ever seen some of the cruel shit that often goes on in this process?), clone them, butcher them, do testing on them . . . but suck a horse's dick or have a dog lick peanut butter off your pussy? OH GOD!!!! SOMEONE CALL THE POLICE!!! It may be gross and cross most people's boundaries of decency, but it's not something the law should interfere with.

Anyone who eats meat, buys pets from breeders, wears leather, etc. and then tries to make bestiality illegal on principle only is a gigantic hypocrite. It's a fake issue.

Obviously, you , my dear, are a fucking retard.

[Trixie]

Obviously, you , my dear, are a fucking retard.
If any person in favor of anti-bestiality (where no animal is physically harmed) laws can come up with a morsel of rational justification for them (right alongside rationale for why doing sexual things with animals is somehow much crueler and more criminal than any of those other things I mentioned) then I'll gladly consign myself to the "retard" pile. Otherwise I think you, "my dear", are the retard for not coming up with anything better than that.

Unfortunately this is one of those issues where people are totally irrational -- it has nothing to do with caring about animals or even people, and has everything to do with a hysterical fear of sex.

Whatever, though. I realize this is one of those issues where people can't have a logical argument because they're so afraid everyone will label them sickos and perverts . . . and retards . . . if they use their brains for half a second. If no animal is hurt and the only humans that are hurt consented to it, then it's a victimless crime.

By the by, I do think the first guy to get in trouble here in WA since the law was passed TOTALLY deserved it; he was fucking a dog and totally hurting it. Of course, the animal CRUELTY laws should be sufficient to prosecute these kinds of assholes, though.

[2mmy]

People are weird all over the world. Even presidents go out hunting, as in KILLING animals, i think thats much much worse then having sex with...

whats worse killing or having sex with them...?

[Saturnin]

I think you guys are forgetting that it's the Dutch government which is talking about banning this. For these clowns, it's one of their best ideas to date.

Then again, you can make any kind of joke you want about the local government screwing the taxpayer like a farmer from region (fill in the blank) on his favourite sheep.

[oldbrad]

"If any person in favor of anti-bestiality (where no animal is physically harmed) laws can come up with a morsel of rational justification for them (right alongside rationale for why doing sexual things with animals is somehow much crueler and more criminal than any of those other things I mentioned) then I'll gladly consign myself to the "retard" pile. Otherwise I think you, "my dear", are the retard for not coming up with anything better than that."

Imagine you were at home fucking your golden retriever and got knocked up? Can you imagine the social stigma created by your action that the poor dog-boy (or girl respectively) would have to go thru for years to come?

Just say no to fucking animals |thumb

[Cleo]

I wonder if Panda Porn (http://video.msn.com/v/us/fv/msnbc/fv.htm??f=00&g=cc91a07d-f478-4434-9408-9c5893a8cc2d&p=hotvideo_m_edpicks&t=m5&rf=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17815225/&fg=) makes any humans horny or even worse hungry for a Panda steak?

[FanTC]

I realize this is one of those issues where people can't have a logical argument because they're so afraid everyone will label them sickos and perverts . . . and retards . . . if they use their brains for half a second. If no animal is hurt and the only humans that are hurt consented to it, then it's a victimless crime.


You know, I've done alot of drugs in my time, but not once have I ever had even the briefest flash of genius to decide to reach over and grab my cat and impale her on my cock. I've even had trips where cows were running 75mph alongside the vehicle I was in. Did it excite me? Absolutely, scared the hell out of me. Did I want to fuck it? Newp!


While technology has advanced by leaps and bounds in modern history, there is far too much that we don't know about the world and how everything works. The human brain, for instance, is still very much a mystery. We may never tap it to the full extent. And being such, we haven't even begun to understand the animal brain other than dolphins, primates, and a few others. So how are you so sure it's a victimless crime?

What if, just what if, despite their lack of fingers and toes and the ability to walk upright, those animals brains are developed more than we realize? We seem to have come up with excuses for every type of mental illness and flaw in humans... ADD, ADHD, etc., so how do you know the emotional process of the animals isn't affected. Maybe the animals are sent spiraling into an abyssmal depression and long for the slaughter, much like abused people becoming suicidal. Their primitive communication skills prevent them from expressing their desire to not be used as a sexual tool, however you assume it's ok? What's next, Invalids?

Since we don't know, all discussion is strictly opinion and will remain as such until we have definitive proof one way or the other. I'd say it boils down to personal ethics and discretion. Being as I have a choice, I choose not to associate with or put myself in the position to be affiliated with anyone of that ilk.

I personally don't give 3 shits in a shoebox who screws what and I'm willing to turn a blind eye to much more than I'd like to, however, in a perfect world I'd recieve the same consideration when I opted to gouge animal fuckers and their advocates' eyes out with a t-bone.

[LowryBigwood]

If no animal is hurt and the only humans that are hurt consented to it, then it's a victimless crime.


Are you fucking kidding me?|club|

[Cleo]

Some things are worth repeating.
Yeah it's so much better to kill them and eat their flesh then to be having sex with them.
It's hypocritical to believe that it is ok to kill them and eat their flesh but having sex with them is wrong.

BTW, I've been a vegetarian most of my life. I don't have sex with animals because I think it is wrong, I also have yet to get turned on by anything other then a human animal, and I also don't eat them because I think it is wrong but until the time comes when animals are no longer slaughtered because some like to eat their flesh I find it really pointless to be concerned about having sex with one.

[Trixie]

You know, I've done alot of drugs in my time, but not once have I ever had even the briefest flash of genius to decide to reach over and grab my cat and impale her on my cock. I've even had trips where cows were running 75mph alongside the vehicle I was in. Did it excite me? Absolutely, scared the hell out of me. Did I want to fuck it? Newp!


While technology has advanced by leaps and bounds in modern history, there is far too much that we don't know about the world and how everything works. The human brain, for instance, is still very much a mystery. We may never tap it to the full extent. And being such, we haven't even begun to understand the animal brain other than dolphins, primates, and a few others. So how are you so sure it's a victimless crime?

What if, just what if, despite their lack of fingers and toes and the ability to walk upright, those animals brains are developed more than we realize? We seem to have come up with excuses for every type of mental illness and flaw in humans... ADD, ADHD, etc., so how do you know the emotional process of the animals isn't affected. Maybe the animals are sent spiraling into an abyssmal depression and long for the slaughter, much like abused people becoming suicidal. Their primitive communication skills prevent them from expressing their desire to not be used as a sexual tool, however you assume it's ok? What's next, Invalids?

Since we don't know, all discussion is strictly opinion and will remain as such until we have definitive proof one way or the other. I'd say it boils down to personal ethics and discretion. Being as I have a choice, I choose not to associate with or put myself in the position to be affiliated with anyone of that ilk.

I personally don't give 3 shits in a shoebox who screws what and I'm willing to turn a blind eye to much more than I'd like to, however, in a perfect world I'd recieve the same consideration when I opted to gouge animal fuckers and their advocates' eyes out with a t-bone.

I hear what you're saying, but it doesn't stand up alongside the other animals-are-here-to-serve-humans stuff like farming for meat, animal testing, etc. I mean, do you also want to gouge out the eyes of cattle ranchers? Scientists who torture and kill animals in labs?

I'm not ADVOCATING bestiality or saying that it's normal and perfectly cool -- no, I think in most cases it's pathologically insane and horrid and there are good reasons why it's taboo. What I'm advocating is laws (and arguments) that make sense.

[Trixie]

Are you fucking kidding me?|club|
Dude, NO I'm not kidding you. Do you think a dog is a victim if it licks peanut butter off some guy's asshole but (as one example) a calf is NOT a victim if it's trapped in a tiny cage its whole life and slaughtered young so it won't develop any muscle and will become tender yummy veal for people to get sensual pleasure from eating?

[LowryBigwood]

Hello Cleo,

Some things are worth repeating.

It's hypocritical to believe that it is ok to kill them and eat their flesh but having sex with them is wrong.

That's not true. However, it would be hypocritical of someone to say they are against nailing their dog in the ass while doing it themselves.

|potleaf|

[LowryBigwood]

Do you think a dog is a victim if it licks peanut butter off some guy's asshole

Uhh Yeah...


but a calf is NOT a victim if it's trapped in a tiny cage its whole life and slaughtered young so it won't develop any muscle and will become tender yummy veal for people to get sensual pleasure from eating?

So you are trying to justify having sex with animals because some of us choose to eat meat in our diets? Do I have this correct or maybe I misunderstood what you are trying to compare this to? |crazy|

[oldbrad]

"It's hypocritical to believe that it is ok to kill them and eat their flesh but having sex with them is wrong."

I may be a murdering meateater, but i'm no rapist.

[Cleo]

I have a Brazilian friend who is bisexual. There was a time when the two of us would mess around with a guy friend of ours. Then I found out that she lets her dog lick her pussy. I no longer will have sex with her due to this but I fail to see how she is harming her dog.

[oldbrad]

i guess there are tons of gray areas, but actual intercourse with an animal might be the line that seperates.

[Bobc01]

Animals or kids, to me it takes a seriously sick mind to do either.

A human pecker inserted into a small animal just isn't a natural thing.
How anyone can say that the animal wouldn't be harmed is a fucked up human and needs a shrink.

Trixie, what's the difference between raping a woman and raping an animal?

If you personally wouldn't like having sex forced on you by anyone how can you condone it on animals?

[lassiter]

If you personally wouldn't like having sex forced on you by anyone how can you condone it on animals?

Well, true enough. OTOH, I wouldn't want to be put into a truck or railcar, forced into a tiny pen or coop with no room to move, be force-fed chemical and hormone-laden slop, have my throat cut, and be skinned and slaughtered for food, either.

[Bobc01]

That's true, but i wouldn't want to be chased by a big animal and have my throat ripped out and eaten but thats instinct in some animals as part of their survival.

Fucking a different species isn't instinct or natural and if Trixie thinks abusing animals is ok then i think we should all go round her place and gang bang her as obviously that would be fine by her.

[Trixie]

First of all, I'm not condoning or advocating sex with animals -- I'm simply opposed to redundant, stupid and hypocritical laws. Second, the violent reactions some of you guys have towards me for making a simple point of LOGIC is truly horrifying. Third, equating a human woman with an animal? Wow. Just BEYOND THE FUCKING PALE and proof positive that a few of you are the lowest life forms possible.

You want to rape me and gouge my eyes out and hit me with baseball bats for pointing out a simple hypocrisy that nonviolent sexual acts with animals shouldn't be illegal if torturing and butchering them for meat is okay, if animal testing is okay, if breeding animals is okay, if shoving hormones into animals to torture them with unnatural pregnancy after pregnancy after pregnancy is okay, etc.? It's incomprensibly silly to hear Mr. Mississippi lecturing me about how smart dolphins are when he's probably carelessly eaten his fair share of tuna in his day. And I mean the tuna that comes in a can.

If shithole Bobc01 and his ilk had a morsel of comprehension to read anything I said you'd see that, a number of times, I am equally mortified by HURTING animals, for sexual pleasure OR ANYTHING ELSE. The only thing this stupid discussion has convinced me of is that I'm doing something really wrong to continue eating meat.

It's seriously horrifying that some of you asswipes feel justified in threatening me with physical violence over this, but I guess I should have anticipated that with the level of ignorance and misogyny rampant in this industry. Here we have a handful of idiots from the south with their confederate flag tattoos on proud display calling me a retard and practically threatening to rape and lynch me for trying to engage in a simple rational DISCUSSION of the values, ethics, and laws regarding humane treatment of animals.

By the way, numbskulls -- a woman can't get pregnant by a DOG, okay?? And a dog can't get pregnant from a man, and if you want to pretend that men aren't naturally inclined to FUCK ANYTHING THAT WILL GIVE THEIR DICKS PLEASURE then read the bible; you guys were born screwing sheep and you don't know jack about nature if you think as a gender you're ever going to rise above that. Methinks a few of you protest too much and have spent a little too much special time with your barnyard pals and now think you can make up for it by pointing fingers at me.

Some of these posts are an excellent illustration of how fucked up our world is, that if a woman expresses an opinion she deserves to have her voice forcefully silenced with a big, mean cock. Arrrr, that'll learn her! Stick your righteous rape-justifying rage right up your asses and try practicing how to follow a rational train of thought without going all apeshit, emotional, and stupid.

[Bobc01]

Your right on the hypocrtical laws and i don't agree with them either, but the way you came across was it's ok to abuse animals if you can pump em full of crap and slaughter them.

I didn't say it would be right for you to get raped, i was comparing it to animal abuse as to me, forcing sex on anyone or anything is just wrong.

You have a right to an opinion anywhere you like but maybe you should of explained it more carefully.

[Trixie]

Your right on the hypocrtical laws and i don't agree with them either, but the way you came across was it's ok to abuse animals if you can pump em full of crap and slaughter them.

I didn't say it would be right for you to get raped, i was comparing it to animal abuse as to me, forcing sex on anyone or anything is just wrong.

You have a right to an opinion anywhere you like but maybe you should of explained it more carefully.
I did . . . several times, but you must not have taken time to read my posts very thoroughly. Thanks for explaining yourself, though.

[Bobc01]

Someone posted up a link on another forum to one of the wildlife agencies, it showed a video of some rackoon type animals being beaten half dead then skinned alive.
It was really sickening as you could see the animals screaming in pain and from that, a load of people donated £1000's.

I think what you were saying Trixie is unless animal cruelty in any form is banned then not to highlight certain types.

I appologise for taking you wrong and i hope others will do the same.

[LowryBigwood]

You want to rape me and gouge my eyes out and hit me with baseball bats for pointing out a simple hypocrisy that nonviolent sexual acts with animals shouldn't be illegal if torturing and butchering them for meat is okay, if animal testing is okay, if breeding animals is okay, if shoving hormones into animals to torture them with unnatural pregnancy after pregnancy after pregnancy is okay, etc.?

First of all, you were not pointing out any hypocrisy whatsoever.

Please educate yourself below:

hypocrite (http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hypocrite)
hypocrisy (http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hypocrisy)


The only thing this stupid discussion has convinced me of is that I'm doing something really wrong to continue eating meat.

ROFL. Now the truth really comes out. This would in fact be how you would use the word hypocrite. You are now indeed one. Congrats. |jester|

Also, I never threatened you in any way, you may want to go back and re-read my posts.

Here we have a handful of idiots from the south with their confederate flag tattoos on proud display calling me a retard and practically threatening to rape and lynch me for trying to engage in a simple rational DISCUSSION of the values, ethics, and laws regarding humane treatment of animals.

I see you have grouped me in with what others have told you, but, I could really careless. Keep on keeping on. |thumb

Some of these posts are an excellent illustration of how fucked up our world is, that if a woman expresses an opinion she deserves to have her voice forcefully silenced with a big, mean cock. Arrrr, that'll learn her! Stick your righteous rape-justifying rage right up your asses and try practicing how to follow a rational train of thought without going all apeshit, emotional, and stupid.

Maybe you should take your own advice. :D

[Trixie]

Someone posted up a link on another forum to one of the wildlife agencies, it showed a video of some rackoon type animals being beaten half dead then skinned alive.
It was really sickening as you could see the animals screaming in pain and from that, a load of people donated £1000's.

I think what you were saying Trixie is unless animal cruelty in any form is banned then not to highlight certain types.

I appologise for taking you wrong and i hope others will do the same.
Thanks, Bob -- sorry I freaked out on you.

[Trixie]

Also, I never threatened you in any way, you may want to go back and re-read my posts.

Ummm . . . here you go:

Are you fucking kidding me?|club|

Hence my baseball bat remark; I do think swinging an emoticon bat at me is threatening just because I posited that a dog licking peanut butter out of a dude's ass is a victimless crime.

As far as the rest of it, it would be clubbing a dead seal to continue this conversation with you, Mr. Bigwood. Have a nice day. |waves|

[FanTC]

To borrow a line from Dan Akroyd..
Trixie you ignorant slut..
Are you by any chance an offspring of Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson? You sure sound alot like them.
First of all, I'm not condoning or advocating sex with animals -- I'm simply opposed to redundant, stupid and hypocritical laws.
Kinda like that freedom of speech law that you seem to feel only allows you to have an opinion and express it?
a few of you are the lowest life forms possible.

I was under the impression that animal fuckers held that title


You want to rape me and gouge my eyes out and hit me with baseball bats for pointing out a simple hypocrisy that nonviolent sexual acts with animals shouldn't be illegal if torturing and butchering them for meat is okay
If you didn't bother to selectively read replies, you might find that I referred to animal fuckers and their advocates. In your reply you state, albeit unconvincingly, that you aren't either. I'd say you lied your way out of that one, so you are not encompassed in that...your point is moot.

It's incomprensibly silly to hear Mr. Mississippi lecturing me about how smart dolphins are when he's probably carelessly eaten his fair share of tuna in his day. And I mean the tuna that comes in a can.
Why thank you, Ms. NorthWest Hypocrite. I don't see where my diet comes into play here, however, had you bothered to educate yourself a wee bit in geography, you might notice that the Mississippi coast is on water. I have no need to purchase seafood in a can.

If shithole Bobc01 and his ilk had a morsel of comprehension to read anything I said

Practice what you preach Rev, practice what you preach.

I am equally mortified by HURTING animals, for sexual pleasure

Then why the fuck are you opposed to laws against it? Goddamn you are a confused individual.


The only thing this stupid discussion has convinced me of is that I'm doing something really wrong to continue eating meat.

Well ain't that the pot calling the kettle black?

I guess I should have anticipated that with the level of ignorance and misogyny rampant in this industry.

Have you considered a career change? I'm sure you'd do very well in dog grooming.

Here we have a handful of idiots from the south with their confederate flag tattoos on proud display calling me a retard and practically threatening to rape and lynch me for trying to engage in a simple rational DISCUSSION of the values, ethics, and laws regarding humane treatment of animals.

Well Shazam Sargent Carter! Even us idiots in the south can keep our story straight. And it seems that the general concensus in the south is that you are a fucking retard. I wouldn't advise you to visit any time soon.

By the way, numbskulls -- a woman can't get pregnant by a DOG, okay??

But you think it should be legal to keep trying until there's definitive proof?

And a dog can't get pregnant from a man, and if you want to pretend that men aren't naturally inclined to FUCK ANYTHING THAT WILL GIVE THEIR DICKS PLEASURE then read the bible

Praise Jesus!!!

you guys were born screwing sheep and you don't know jack about nature if you think as a gender you're ever going to rise above that.

That's rather presumptous, not to mention slanderous, to stereotype males that way. Again you are the pot calling the kettle black. What is the true cause of your problem? You have badmouthed men, the south, and hypocritically forced your sheer and utter bullshit upon any that aren't of your mindset from the beginning. In short, fuck you.

Methinks a few of you protest too much and have spent a little too much special time with your barnyard pals and now think you can make up for it by pointing fingers at me.

And Methinks thou art a Retard

Some of these posts are an excellent illustration of how fucked up our world is, that if a woman expresses an opinion she deserves to have her voice forcefully silenced with a big, mean cock. Arrrr, that'll learn her! Stick your righteous rape-justifying rage right up your asses and try practicing how to follow a rational train of thought without going all apeshit, emotional, and stupid.

There ya go...classic Sharpton flop. Now you are the victim. With your lovely attitude and abundance of tolerance, I am amxious for the day you become yet another statistic.

It seems we must resign to agreeing to disagree. That's fine. I leave this discussion with the full realization that you are not the standard run of the mill retard, you have achieved the pinnacle of retardation. Your thorough use of hypocrisy, victimization, and general bullshit qualifies you to run for political office, congratulations!

I'm off to toss a dismembered cow on the grill, have fun fondling Fido!

[emmanuelle]

Should be interesting through the wonders of genetic engineering once chimeras start joining the ranks of human populations and the lines get blurred between what is human and what is animal not that humans in themselves are just an animal anyway.


Interesting chimera premise in the newer Crichton book 'Next'

[Trixie]

FanTC: I'm happy we can reciprocate each other on the "you're a retard" -- "no, YOU'RE a retard!" line of discussion and I too am happy to leave it at that agreeable conclusion regardless of how tempting it is to go around and around on the other points.

Have a good one, fucknut.

[Halfdeck]

This is like sending a female teacher to prison for fucking a 13 year old boy. It's fucking ridiculous. Trixie is right on the money - if you think this is perfectly ok but women sucking off dogs isn't, you need to get your head on straight:

http://members.fortunecity.com/ricardo005//sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/slaughtercows.jpg

http://members.fortunecity.com/ricardo005/Ricardo4you/id5.html

Enjoy the pics.

[Cleo]

For what it's worth I agree with Trixie.

Another good book on what the future may look like is Chimera by Will Shetterly (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0312866305/qid=1149106736/sr=1-8/ref=sr_1_8/103-8131971-0783837?s=books&v=glance&n=283155)

Would you eat it or fuck it?

[MightyMidget]

Aah, this brings back memories of my vegetarian days. I used to end up in discussions where I was like "why the fuck do you protest animal transportation conditions while you're eating meat, that's like complaining that the Jews didn't have enough to eat on their trains to Auchwitz while not caring about them getting gased and murdered!", or "Why the fuck do you protest butchering baby seals while eating meat, you think only the cute animals should live you animal fascist!". Right or wrong, I don't think these arguments accomplished much...

The animal sex question is a no-brainer to me though: no consent, no sex. Of course it should be illegal. Be happy that people think this is wrong at least, then try to make them stop killing animals too if you're up to it. Two wrongs don't make a right.

[Halfdeck]

no consent, no sex.

So animal porn is ok IF its consensual? Lol

[Cleo]

Some chimps have been taught to talk using sign language so I guess a person could ask then if they were in the mood for sexual pleasure with a human.

And then there is Mr, Ed
"A horse is a horse, of course, of course,
And no one can talk to a horse, of course,
Unless, of course, the horse, of course,
Is the famous Mr. Ed!"

[Bobc01]

Those slaughter pics, those methods are banned here in the UK, all animal slaughter has to be instant.

Countries like france and eastern europe, asia and the middle east are the main culprites of in humain methods due to their backward society.

[emmanuelle]

Those slaughter pics, those methods are banned here in the UK, all animal slaughter has to be instant.

Countries like france and eastern europe, asia and the middle east are the main culprites of in humain methods due to their backward society.


Don't kid yourself. Animal slaughter is SUPPOSED to be instant, but you would not believe the margin of error that the gov't tolerates. Their suffering is not limited to their final moments either. Cows are moved to CAFOs (Confined Animal Feed Operation) at about 8 months of age, where they spend the next few months standing in their own waste flank to flank, gorging themselves on a mixture that contains flaked corn, vitamins, estrogen, antibiotics, urea (synthetic nitrogen made from natural gas), and beef tallow. Mad cow anyone? While the FDA has outlawed feeding ruminant protein to ruminants, they make an exception for fat and blood products.
Cows are not meant to eat corn. When the corn ferments in their rumen, gas builds up till the rumen is pressing against the animal's lungs and it suffocates unless a hose is forced down it's esophagus.
There are countless ways that our food animals suffer. We can only hope that those getting a 7 inch bolt through their forehead go quickly enough to kill him on the first shot. As for the others... on an assembly line that slaughters 400 animals per hour, mistakes are inevitable. McDonalds is said to tolerate a 5% 'error' rate.

Back on topic- I know a woman who breeds huskys. She dons a rubber glove and jerks them off to obtain semen that she sells. The dogs seem to enjoy it I've heard/ |jester|

[oldbrad]

"and if you want to pretend that men aren't naturally inclined to FUCK ANYTHING THAT WILL GIVE THEIR DICKS PLEASURE then read the bible; you guys were born screwing sheep and you don't know jack about nature if you think as a gender you're ever going to rise above that."

Sounds like your objection isn't to people eating meat or even anything about fucking animals, your just a man hater plain and simple.

How could we simple men ever even have a competent discussion with the much more genetically advanced female. Feel free to have a dog lick peanut butter off your asshole as much as you want, take pictures and post them here. The i can look at them, while eating a 32 oz porterhouse, and say "that is some sick shit".


Brad

[Lemmy]

Let's not kid ourselves here. The laws against having sex with animals have nothing to do with concern for the animals' wellbeing. If we cared that much there would be laws against the cruelty that's perpetrated on factory farms, slaughter plants and research labs all over the country against 1000s of animals every day. The pics that Halfdeck posted don't even begin to describe it.

If you're against sex with animals fine, but be straight about it. It's all about moral values, probably mostly based on religion or some philosophical notion that it's against nature.

This thread has deteriorated to name calling, but I think what Trixie says makes sense and you guys are bashing her for the wrong reasons. She's not promoting sex with animals, merely pointing out the hypocrisy of allowing what amounts to massive industrialized torture on the one hand and criminalizing a relatively harmless perversion (however "unnatural" it may be) on the other. I agree with her.

For the record: I live in a house owned by 4 cats and they're all virgins.

[lassiter]

And then there is Mr, Ed
"A horse is a horse, of course, of course,
And no one can talk to a horse, of course,
Unless, of course, the horse, of course,
Is the famous Mr. Ed!"

Oh no, there's an image I didn't want in my head, ever!

"WILLLLLLLBURRRRRRR!!!!!"

|scared|

[picXX]

I am eating a lot of fish...i never heard anyone complain about their rights?

Squiddys should be real good for blowjobs i guess... :D

[Bobc01]

So what about the original topic of banning animal porn on the net?