GoDaddy shuts down website... [Archive]

Bill

2007-02-06, 06:33 PM

That is pretty crazy.

I wonder if other domains were shut down - apparently these leaked passwords were on dozens of other sites.

"What makes GoDaddy's actions even more disgusting is that the passwords in question had been leaked about 10 days before GoDaddy took SecLists down. They appeared on dozens of other security-related and hacker Web sites. Security expert Bruce Schneier had even written a column in which he analyzed the quality of about 30,000 of the leaked passwords. (Among the top 10 popular passwords was "fuckyou," which completely mirrors my feelings for MySpace.) So the point is the cat was out of the bag. The passwords were circulating, and MySpace needed to tell its customers to change their passwords. Squelching SecLists wasn't going to help protect anyone. And yet GoDaddy's general counsel, Christine Jones, defended its actions because she believed pedophiles would get access to children's names and passwords. "For something that has safety implications like that, we take it really seriously," she told Wired News editor Kevin Poulsen. "I think the fact that we gave him notice at all was pretty generous.""

Greenguy

2007-02-06, 09:58 PM

I will never understand why anyone would ever use godaddy with as many problems as we see.Because drunk people like to use products they see on commercials during the Super Bowl :D

ecchi

2007-02-07, 05:28 AM

I will never understand why anyone would ever use godaddy with as many problems as we see.
Because some people refuse to listen. If you look across the boards at the (many) threads badmouthing GoDaddy you will usually find one post in the thread along the lines of "well I use GoDaddy, and I have never had any problems, so I am going to continue using them" (Kind of like the guy who jumps off the roof of a thirty story skyscraper despite the fact that someone told him he would hit the ground and die, then half way down he thinks "well I have not hit the ground yet, so I never will").

Jim

2007-02-07, 06:58 AM

Because drunk people like to use products they see on commercials during the Super Bowl :D

Drunk or not, and I am only talking about adult webmasters here...all anyone has to do is search godaddy on any board. And while there is the occasional person that claims to never have a problem, there are 5 that have.

I mean, when talking about a domain registrar, does it make a difference if it costs $2, $5 or $15? It is the security that counts. Imagine running a legitimate adult website and waking up finding out that your site has been shut down by the registrar.

It's bad enough waking up to find your website down and being told your HD took a shit and the host owner says. "I would love to help but I am on my way to a wedding". :) That is still a very sore subject losing so much data like we did :)

Greenguy

2007-02-07, 08:33 AM

Drunk or not, and I am only talking about adult webmasters here...I thought that the :D would carry over my sarcasm, but I guess from here on out, I'll have to use the |haha

|couch|

Jim

2007-02-07, 10:29 AM

I thought that the :D would carry over my sarcasm, but I guess from here on out, I'll have to use the |haha

|couch|

I got it, it was just a starting point for a rant. :)
Still, why do adult webmasters use godaddy. And I know it wasn't a godaddy site shut down. :)

bbwebmaster

2007-02-07, 11:28 AM

oki doki, so, what is an alternative to godaddy then? DirectNic ?

j3sUS183

2007-02-07, 12:32 PM

DirectNIC suxxx

Useless

2007-02-07, 12:49 PM

DirectNIC suxxxWhy do you feel that way? Back it up with something if you're going it make such a strong statement about a respected company.

Bill

2007-02-07, 01:16 PM

I like Domain Name Systems - $15 a year if you have less than a hundred domains, and they are friendly to adult webmasters, and they have very responsive customer service.

Preacher

2007-02-07, 01:41 PM

Why do you feel that way? Back it up with something if you're going it make such a strong statement about a respected company.

Maladapted Media sucks! And the reason is...oh wait, you said respected company, nevermind. :D

GonZo

2007-02-07, 02:22 PM

DirectNIC suxxx

Pollock

Chimera

2007-02-07, 02:53 PM

Then let me establish myself as a newbie webmaster who had missed the discussions on godaddy. I registered a domain with them recently the day after received a sales phone call.
They girl identified herself and proceeded to "establish that I understood" the options on my domain name.
Her first question was why I had chosen a server other than godaddy's.
I responded that the server hosting the domain was experienced in the needs of the adult industry and webmaster.....silence.
No sale on the GoDaddy Hosting.
Next question is that she noticed I had a public whois..."Did I understand exactly what that meant especially since I dealt in adult content?"
I replied yes, and that in fact in the adult industry hiding your whois often meant you were up to no good.....silence.
No Sale on the private whois option.
At least replying you are a porn mistress will get them off the line.
I am looking suggestions for registrars for the 2 domain names I am registering today, if they don't give you telephone solicitors too!

Greenguy

2007-02-07, 02:54 PM

Pollock

If all the European webmasters could please note that Gonzo is the real racist around here and NOT ME! :D

2007-02-07, 03:09 PM

Ive always used go daddy and never had any problems :D

Seriously though I have a few domains left there, the reason I used them in the first place a few years back was the ease of use, management of the domains etc. and ease of locking them and that sort of stuff. We dont get the ads here for them. I read the posts about the problems people were having with them, but it also comes down to slackness to transfer a bunch of domains, the extra cost etc. I only have a few there now and have not regd an new ones there for years, so I guess it has sunk in, the bad stuff I've read. Anything new now, I use name cheap, I havent heard too many things bad about them.

Mutant

2007-02-07, 03:27 PM

If all the European webmasters could please note that Gonzo is the real racist around here and NOT ME! :D

Oh no ! He's not a racist ! He's a specialist ! ;) :D

We Pollocks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pollock) and you Humans are two completely different species ! |loony| |jester|

btw. Pollocks > Humans !!!

stuveltje

2007-02-07, 04:17 PM

I will never understand why anyone would ever use godaddy with as many problems as we see.i am still with godaddy after almost 6 years with all my domains, sure i had some problems, but not any problem which couldnt be resolved in a easy way.............i hope i never have to get back at ya Jim...saying "yeah yeah i know you where so right that time, i should have listen":D till now i a still having all my domains at godaddy after 6 years.

stuveltje

2007-02-07, 04:27 PM

its almost the same as with adult sponsors, some have shit with a sponsor while the other webmasters dont have problems with the same sponsor. So should i drop the sponsor who makes me alot of money because there are alot of other webmasters who do have problems with the sponsor?.....i had a time a sponsor fucked me bad with my sales, a friend of mine said i am gonna drop them too, i asked him why> he said because they fucked you... i said do they give you your money, h said yes, i said do you do well with them , he said yes, i said why the fuck drop them then? because they fucked a friend of you? fuck that, you are in this bizz to make money, i would feel bad when a friend of mine drop a good selling sponsor for him if i have problems with them, i dont want that, people have to find out themself whats bad or wrong, the only thing i can say if godaddy fucks me, oke i have had a good time there for 6 years, i was warned about the problems others had, but i still choose godaddy............my mistake..and then if that time comes i need to kiss Jims feet and say , damn you where so right:D

ecchi

2007-02-07, 05:58 PM

Stuveltje - it is not a question of kissing Jim's feet and saying "you were right", it is a question of what you are going to do when some crooked asshole steals your domains and GoDaddy say "tough shit". Then you are going to have to start again at square one, and loose all the good work you have done up to now.

Remember, everyone, even the crooks know that GoDaddy is lax on security and refuse to help chase up problems, so the crooks know to hit GoDaddy customers for domains with traffic. And also remember this is an open forum, anyone can read it, even crooks (and dishonest people do read this, read a few old threads and see what some of the (now banned) ex-members have admitted to doing). So by saying "I use GoDaddy" you are saying "Hi guys, my domains get traffic, and they are really easy to steal". In other words, I would change register today, and I mean immediately, not in an hour or so.

DangerDave

2007-02-07, 07:16 PM

Remember, everyone, even the crooks know that GoDaddy is lax on security and refuse to help chase up problems, so the crooks know to hit GoDaddy customers for domains with traffic. And also remember this is an open forum, anyone can read it, even crooks (and dishonest people do read this, read a few old threads and see what some of the (now banned) ex-members have admitted to doing). So by saying "I use GoDaddy" you are saying "Hi guys, my domains get traffic, and they are really easy to steal". In other words, I would change register today, and I mean immediately, not in an hour or so.

Ecchi.. that is excellent propoganda..:)

I have over 500 domains with Godaddy and have done for > 5 years... with no more problems encountered than with the other 7 registrars we use..

In fact I would rank at least 3 other registrars way below GoDaddy for price, service, efficiency etc.

Most of the stories posted here about "problems" with GoDaddy.. lacked facts and support, other than people blaming GoDaddy for their misfortune... and if i remember correctly... half the stories, involved the so called "crook" having legitimate to the owners account.. which indicates password insecurity as the most likley cause.

Go Daddy aint the problem here... and as for "posting that you have domains at GoDaddy", being an invitation for crooks/hackers.. that is just garbage...

DD

festeris

2007-02-07, 07:35 PM

|badidea| Hmmm...Now ya got me thinking. I've got a number of adult domains over at Godaddy.

Will they lock them?

Can they?

I will admit I thought it strange that it was ok to register adult domains but you can't be hosted there?

Just to be on the safe side, I'm gonna move...any suggestions?|huh

GonZo

2007-02-07, 08:19 PM

If all the European webmasters could please note that Gonzo is the real racist around here and NOT ME! :D

Next youll having them believe Im a homophobe too.
Before you know it Ill be punished by having to sit in that Naked Sword booth at AEE and sign pictures as "BEAR" content.

cockhungryhoes

2007-02-07, 09:13 PM

I use godaddy, and I know I shouldnt I have heard many bad things about them. I will say I am more happy with them then a company I used to use. At least in price.I have mixed feelings about godaddy.

What I cant stand about godaddy is the lack of tech support. Many times, over the last year I have needed to call them for this, or that. When I call tech support, I expect tech support. They never can deal with the problem until I get pissed off. It takes at least 5 phone calls to get something fixed. They dance around the issue and try to kiss it off with some BS. They give you different anwsers. They always say O do this or do that and O by the way, it will take 48 hours for that to take effect so call us back if you have any problems. I had one girl send me through the roof, I was so pissed off I call up "Tech support" with an FTP problem. This girl has the nerve to ask me "WHATS AN FTP"? I lost it!
As far as my site goes, I havent had to many problems with it being down. I will say I have heard they like to hold domains hostage. I never buy domains from them just host them. The other thing that pisses me off is when they dont know how to fix your problem, and say "Well we can put in a help ticket to our tech support" (which there support to be) then when they didnt help you for the 4th time, try to sell you something, then say can I send you a survay. I always love slamming them on that. I got a phone call back one time from a supervisor about a bad review. I still didnt get through to him on my point.
Moral , I guess you do get what you pay for. I am at a loss when it comes to hosting cause before I was with another company, and they were not much better and I was paying $20 per month. At least here I get shit service, and pay a lot less for it. Not that, thats is all that much better.

SheepGuy

2007-02-08, 02:55 AM

I've got 4 or 5 domains with GoDaddy, non adult, low traffic. Always found them OK on the phone, but I lost a domain I didn't really care about a year or so ago because I forgot to renew it. My fault entirely, but for the domains that count I still use Netsol because they remind me about 17 times to renew the damn things.
I don't mind paying a little extra for that ;)
I'd never use a mainstream outfit to host adult sites though, wether they allow it or not. They don't speak the same language.

ecchi

2007-02-08, 02:58 AM

Because some people refuse to listen. If you look across the boards at the (many) threads badmouthing GoDaddy you will usually find one post in the thread along the lines of "well I use GoDaddy, and I have never had any problems, so I am going to continue using them" (Kind of like the guy who jumps off the roof of a thirty story skyscraper despite the fact that someone told him he would hit the ground and die, then half way down he thinks "well I have not hit the ground yet, so I never will").Q.E.D. !!!!!

Papa

2007-02-08, 06:40 AM

I will never ever use them
DON'T USE THEM

Jim

2007-02-08, 06:56 AM

An anology of people still using godaddy is one like using a sponsor that has not paid some people for no reason at all. "I still get paid so I am still going to keep using them".

I'm sure a lot of people will never have a problem with godaddy but with their record, why take the chance?

JackDaniel's

2007-02-08, 08:19 AM

Ok so which registrar should we use ? Which would be our best choice ?

stuveltje

2007-02-08, 09:34 AM

I'm sure a lot of people will never have a problem with godaddy but with their record, why take the chance?
i dont know.....maybe because it never happend to me, yeah i know it can happen to me, but still after this time i am using them i didnt had big problems, they where the first i bought from when i got in this bizz, i buy my .eu domains also thru them.

Jim

2007-02-08, 09:58 AM

Ok so which registrar should we use ? Which would be our best choice ?

Since the day they opened, we have used directnic and don't see us changing anytime in the near future.

Whatever happened with the guy who had his site shut down for alleged CP?

Jim

2007-02-08, 10:01 AM

i dont know.....maybe because it never happend to me, yeah i know it can happen to me, but still after this time i am using them i didnt had big problems, they where the first i bought from when i got in this bizz, i buy my .eu domains also thru them.

But Stu, what would happen to your business if any of the nightmares we see just on this board happens to you? For an extra $10/year, you can go from, "it can happen to me" to "it will never happen to me".

stuveltje

2007-02-08, 10:24 AM

But Stu, what would happen to your business if any of the nightmares we see just on this board happens to you? For an extra $10/year, you can go from, "it can happen to me" to "it will never happen to me".
ackkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk Jim stop it....you are getting me worried again about my bizz and i am just at the point i dont have to worrie.......oke you have done it, now me worried|shocking| , btw i have an directnic accound, gonna check into it

stuveltje

2007-02-08, 02:48 PM

"If" i am going to move my domains, i need to move more then 200 domains...........thinking about that already give me the creeps, i am sure i am gonna fuck up...........i hate to do things i have never done|shocking| |cry|

ecchi

2007-02-08, 03:13 PM

ackkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk Jim stop it....you are getting me worried again about my bizz
He is not trying to worry you he is trying to help you.
i am just at the point i dont have to worrie
Oh, if you are still with GoDaddy, you still have plenty to worry about. Best to take Jim's advice, then stop worrying.

stuveltje

2007-02-08, 03:21 PM

He is not trying to worry you he is trying to help you.

Oh, if you are still with GoDaddy, you still have plenty to worry about. Best to take Jim's advice, then stop worrying.
heay sure i am dutch but i am not that stupid, i know he is trying to help me, but it has to be my own decision (or how the fuck you write that) and not a desicion because an other told me to do it........so worrieing on this point is good because that makes a person think.

DangerDave

2007-02-08, 03:26 PM

stuveltje

2007-02-08, 03:28 PM

Jim

2007-02-08, 03:44 PM

***

Interviewer: - How many times a month, on average, do you suspend a customer's domain name based on the content of his or her Web site?

Directnic: - Generally 20 to 50 domain names a month.

***

Dave, is that hypothetical or did you read that someplace? I read this yesterday.
"Declan McCullagh from CNet surveyed 12 domain registrars on their policies for handling abuse complaints. DirectNIC and French registrar Gandi.net, he said, offer the most extensive guarantees against unnecessary domain name suspension. DirectNIC requires a court order unless a clear case of child porn or phishing is involved, and Gandi.net takes extensive steps to contact domain owners."

Useless

2007-02-08, 03:52 PM

http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9588_22-6155614.html

Jim

2007-02-08, 03:52 PM

I followed the link from the site I was talking about. They did say that.
Here is the entire article...
http://news.com.com/Survey+Are+domain+registrars+free-speech+friendly/2100-1025_3-6155614.html?tag=st.num

stuveltje

2007-02-08, 04:15 PM

i read the links and yep i have to agree godaddy didnt do good there, still i need to think, its 10:13 evening here, i am gonna sleep about it....as usual when i am in a doubting thing...i even will dream about it........even i dont work that much anymore on the net...i still do care about my bizz

sabin

2007-02-08, 07:04 PM

I will never understand why anyone would ever use godaddy with as many problems as we see.

Any host is going to take down your content if it goes against their use policy. And as far as their hosting, its worlds cheaper than any other i've seen out there, worlds.

Altheon

2007-02-09, 09:55 PM

The guy in the article is actually a friend of mine. As soon as I read the article I called him up and got the full story. Essentially someone posted a whole bunch of MySpace Log-ins to a security mailing list. His site indexes theses posts and puts them on his site, which is very popular and great reading if you need to keep up to date on cutting edge security news.

Any way MySpace got wind called GoDaddy. GoDaddy immediately pulled the plug on the domain. GoDaddy told the news that they called the owner of the site and gave him an hour to respond. This was not true. The time stamp on the GoDaddy voice mail and the time to when they disabled his account was 58 Seconds not minutes.

Long story short GoDaddy assumes guilt and administers punishment until proven innocent.

It's true GoDaddy is a stable registrar and I've done business with them in the past. People who get scammed out of their domain names rarely tell the whole story and have most likely fallen prey to scammers, phishing schemes, or do something stupid like use the same login and password for every site that is easily guessable.

Granted, I moved all my stuff from GoDaddy to The Planet because it's cheaper and they are just as reliable.

-A

stuveltje

2007-02-10, 01:13 PM

i got it, but i will not move all, i will put half of my domains on an other domain registar......and buy new ones at the other:)

softhaus

2007-02-12, 11:44 PM

If you read the entire article you would have seen that the domain was re-enabled within the hour. I've had webhosts down longer than that! Granted I don't have many domains with godaddy but I do have quite a few with their membership site at bluerazor. It's a lawyers world. Now a days a company won't piss in a toilet until the legal department signs off.

Just my 2 pennies worth.

DJilla

2007-02-13, 12:01 AM

I am one of those who "have never had a problem" at GD but well aware of the many, many horror stories and complaints over years about heavy handedness and bully, shady, tactics of GD from boards all over the spectrum.

I'm thinking Stu that some things you don't have to waste time worrying about when someone else has already spent years sweating the small stuff and just gives you the answer, that's a be happy time. Thank goodness I have far fewer than 200 domains but I'm pushing the to directnic this month if I can. Apparently no one can stop GD from its bad behaivor. IMHO, There is something comforting knowing that only a court order can get you shut down. You have the opportunity to fight a court order.