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jonnydoe
2007-01-04, 01:15 PM
:D Wow my first recip table has already changed...that's like a blog entry.

jonnydoe
2007-01-04, 03:19 PM
In case you are not aware NP has gone to that...

Useless
2007-01-04, 03:25 PM
Two posts in, and I still have no idea what you're talking about, jonny. :D |huh

jonnydoe
2007-01-04, 03:30 PM
haha...I don't know if it is a bad word here. Netpond has changed their LL format and they want a one hundred word description.

Cleo
2007-01-04, 03:31 PM
This is what is being talked about.
http://www.netpond.com/showthread.php?t=101064

Useless
2007-01-04, 03:38 PM
100 words? Holy fuck.

More thoughts later...

Bill
2007-01-04, 03:49 PM
100 words is just crazy. Doubly crazy, because it's just for one site.

Making a thumb for a freesite sucks as well - for one linklist with average traffic? also crazy.

I used to sub all my sites to netpond - traffic wasn't anything special but the listing lasted forever, and over time the traffic number got pretty good.

But this new system is too much trouble to deal with. I figure in a while they will be forced to modify it.

Bill
2007-01-04, 04:00 PM
Does anybody happen to know if you can, or how you can, do a search.php?do=getnew on netpond?

It's kind of a pain in the ass to read netpond without some quick way to sort up the new posts.

I've tried using http://www.netpond.com/search.php?do=getdaily (their default "todays posts" link) but it gives an invalid forum specified error.

http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/search.php?do=getnew is GG&Js most valuable link for me.

Mr Exotic
2007-01-04, 04:01 PM
100 words is just crazy. Doubly crazy, because it's just for one site.

Making a thumb for a freesite sucks as well - for one linklist with average traffic? also crazy.

I used to sub all my sites to netpond - traffic wasn't anything special but the listing lasted forever, and over time the traffic number got pretty good.

But this new system is too much trouble to deal with. I figure in a while they will be forced to modify it.

I'm with you man, just aint worth it. The traffic was alright, but nothing to write home about. Looks like they want a blog and want the submitters to do everything. Kinda funny I am toying around with the idea of starting a blog with each of my free sites being a blog post. I'll do it for myself but not for someone else haha

Useless
2007-01-04, 04:03 PM
But this new system is too much trouble to deal with. I figure in a while they will be forced to modify it.I'm really stunned that they'd have the balls to make such a request, and I too am certain that a lack of submissions will force them to change. Hell, if you asked most submitters to create a 100 CHARACTER description, you'd get some pissed off people. 100 words is a blog post. In fact, if you are going to write 100 words to describe a free site, you'd probably be better off slapping that chunk of text on your own blog, linking to the free site from within that text and sit back while the aggregators and SEs pick up your keyword infested feed, instead of submitting to link lists. (and then submit both the free site and blog post to me :D )

Fonz
2007-01-04, 04:14 PM
I did category trades with netpond not that long ago, it seems they dropped them all...

100 words? It seems they're going for the SE traffic now that the SE's have changed their attitude towards LL's...

Jeremy, where are ya boy?

j3sUS183
2007-01-04, 04:16 PM
100 words desc? They're crazy :D :D :D

CrazySy
2007-01-04, 04:32 PM
Look at their new recips, looks like front page of a newspaper...lol

I drop them from my list because of:

To submit a Freesite / Gallery / Blog you must Private message the user "Linklist Submissions" on this board.

I am sure they are not gonna miss me :D :D

Lemmy
2007-01-04, 04:34 PM
Here's a nice tool (http://www.lipsum.com/) if you have problems coming up with a 100 words. :D

Seriously, 100 words + my understanding is that you now have to submit via the PM system on the Netpond board. |huh My guess is they'll be hurting for submitters pretty soon if they enforce the new rules strictly.

Useless
2007-01-04, 04:47 PM
The navigation on the new design doesn't exactly clear the path to the free porn either. I don't consider it very user-friendly.

jonnydoe
2007-01-04, 04:55 PM
I submitted a post to "linklist submissions" and haven't had a reply in a day or two. I think they are having a backend problem with the new system. The new layout is pretty nice...the only issue I have is with writing a hundred freaking word description but I don't think that will hold. If they want that they need to hire reviewer(s) to write it...

DangerDave
2007-01-04, 06:42 PM
I did category trades with netpond not that long ago, it seems they dropped them all...


.. and the other little thing.. the Netpond Blog is gone too.. so say goodbye to those linkswaps as well...

<insert suitably pissed off comment here>

DD

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Fonz
2007-01-04, 06:53 PM
A reply from the new (?) LL operator on netpond: "Catagory trades are being built in again right now.. just polishing a few things."

ok then...

Mr Spock
2007-01-05, 04:17 AM
I submitted a couple of freesites to them over the last few weeks and got no response from them, when I tried submitting yesterday I found that the submit page had changed - gues I will just scrap them as they hardly seem worth the effort now - 100 word is almost a thesis on the topic.

On another point - several of the freesites that I submitted over recent weeks to Netpond have been accepted by other LL such as Link o rama, Jays etc. Can I delete Netpond's recips from my recip table(they have not listed any of my sites) If so what can I replace them with? other LL , my own hub (I have a feeling this won't fly with LL) or should I just leave it as is (seems a waste though).

Maj. Stress
2007-01-05, 04:26 AM
Mr. Spock,
If they are not gonna list you, replace the link with someone or something else. I don't think you will have any problems as long as you are staying within the guidelines.

jonnydoe
2007-01-05, 04:52 AM
I don't think you want to get in the practice of deleting recips or making any changes to your freesites after they are accepted by anyone. Many LLs take a long time to review so they will end up rejecting you if their recip is not there...you could also get yourself in a blacklist situation.

I submitted a couple of freesites to them over the last few weeks and got no response from them, when I tried submitting yesterday I found that the submit page had changed - gues I will just scrap them as they hardly seem worth the effort now - 100 word is almost a thesis on the topic.

On another point - several of the freesites that I submitted over recent weeks to Netpond have been accepted by other LL such as Link o rama, Jays etc. Can I delete Netpond's recips from my recip table(they have not listed any of my sites) If so what can I replace them with? other LL , my own hub (I have a feeling this won't fly with LL) or should I just leave it as is (seems a waste though).

Useless
2007-01-05, 07:51 AM
Can I delete Netpond's recips from my recip table(they have not listed any of my sites) If so what can I replace them with? other LL , my own hub (I have a feeling this won't fly with LL) or should I just leave it as is (seems a waste though).If I KNOW that a site was rejected or de-listed (and I have the time) I'll swap out the recip and submit it elsewhere. It's not something I'd make a priority, but it you're sitting around one day wondering why your feet have toes or why there's hair around your anus - that's the time to do such things.

Licker4U
2007-01-05, 04:32 PM
haha...I don't know if it is a bad word here. Netpond has changed their LL format and they want a one hundred word description.

I went to submit a site a few days ago and saw the 100 word description thing. Made a new recip table without the pond and added a different recip. I hope they see their submissions go through the cellar and drop that requirement.

Chop Smith
2007-01-05, 05:00 PM
UW had a brain fart about doing a tool to write description. Maybe it time for him to rethink it

Mr Exotic
2007-01-05, 05:32 PM
I went to submit a site a few days ago and saw the 100 word description thing. Made a new recip table without the pond and added a different recip. I hope they see their submissions go through the cellar and drop that requirement.

I did the same thing when I saw the private message crap. Submitting as many sites as I do is already a big enough pain in the ass. With the time I spend building and submitting pissing with something like that just aint worth it. Now maybe if they sent enough traffic to make it worth while it would be a different story, but that would require quite a bit of traffic for it to be worth it for me.

Useless
2007-01-05, 07:07 PM
UW had a brain fart about doing a tool to write description. Maybe it time for him to rethink itI just stumbled upon the base scripts for that thing just the other day. I didn't have the entire project backed up when I lost it during one of my bi-annual server crashes, but enough there to start from if I ever take it up again. That thing would create standard length descriptions though, not blog posts. ;)

Greenguy
2007-01-06, 01:00 AM
I've decided that I'm putting this rule into place:

All Free Sites must come with a description of 99 words or less.

:D

Maj. Stress
2007-01-06, 01:03 AM
I think the best place for those 100 keyword rich words would be put to better use on MY index page. ;)

SheepGuy
2007-01-06, 01:30 AM
If I KNOW that a site was rejected or de-listed (and I have the time) I'll swap out the recip and submit it elsewhere. It's not something I'd make a priority, but it you're sitting around one day wondering why your feet have toes or why there's hair around your anus - that's the time to do such things.

Being an agnostic dyslexic insmniac, what keeps me awake nights is wondering if there really is a doG? :D

jonnydoe
2007-01-06, 03:24 AM
I like that rule...

I've decided that I'm putting this rule into place:

All Free Sites must come with a description of 99 words or less.

:D

Licker4U
2007-01-06, 05:02 PM
I've decided that I'm putting this rule into place:

All Free Sites must come with a description of 99 words or less.

:D

Hoooooraaayyy for Greenie!

Linkster
2007-02-06, 09:23 AM
(from http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/showthread.php?t=37994 )

Wiggles - the reason is pretty simple - a bunch of us older LLs had category and main page traffic trades with netponds LL - they decided to just pull all of them without any notification to LL owners - evidently they figured we wouldnt notice :) They continued to get the traffic/links in from us and pulled everything - and I tend to be an old pain in the ass when it comes to tricks like that - so they are not accepted at linkforsex - I believe there will be a few other LLs that might follow along when they discover all of their link trades have been pulled

plateman
2007-02-07, 01:24 PM
Dam If I was gonna redo my LL the category trades would be the first thing to have up - IMO

dam just looked at his index no trades they either

I dont know the new owner, but you dont do your trades like that, must be nice to have a bunch on one way links pointing to netpond LL for weeks now, or longer

I am pulling links unless there's a good reason, very soon

hate to sound harsh but hey!

there was a thread on this but search couldn't find it after numerous tries

Simon
2007-02-07, 02:50 PM
Some info in this thread...
http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/showthread.php?p=323135&highlight=netpond#post323135

MrYum
2007-02-07, 05:48 PM
Funny you should mention that Plateman. I was just checking those last night and noticed trades still aren't back up. Not cool at all :(

Wiggles
2007-02-07, 07:18 PM
i thought jeremy still ran it?

Linkster
2007-02-08, 12:17 AM
And a thread that contains my response when I found out about it:
http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/showthread.php?t=37994

Sorry - but a LL that takes down links without notification and looks like they arent going to put them back up (been quite a while now) gets pulled - and I added the rule that I dont accept netpondcash advertising free sites anymore

plateman
2007-02-08, 01:11 AM
I pulled all links, I forgot about it untill last night when i was looking at my trades, and remembered the orginal thread when another LL asked what happened to my links...after that crazy new description rule

Useless
2007-02-08, 10:01 AM
I added the rule that I dont accept netpondcash advertising free sites anymoreNot a bad rule. I'm way past tired of seeing their massively over-used Cheaters & Strippers and Dogging content. The fact that they are quietly turning a link list into a paysite review site while burying free site links makes me happy that I never submitted there.

erots7
2007-02-08, 10:57 AM
I don't understand.. whats so bad about having lot of text on page that links to your freesites? more text = more rankings/higher rankings = more traffic.

What am I missing?

pornhitzman
2007-02-08, 11:33 AM
I don't understand.. whats so bad about having lot of text on page that links to your freesites? more text = more rankings/higher rankings = more traffic.

What am I missing?

too much work and no return for the extra effort.

erots7
2007-02-08, 12:44 PM
dunno, i don't really find it hard, making a thumbnail for them when submitting there actually takes longer than coming up with 150 words :)

Greenguy
2007-02-08, 03:23 PM
dunno, i don't really find it hard, making a thumbnail for them when submitting there actually takes longer than coming up with 150 words :)
ok |crazy|

Linkster
2007-02-08, 04:38 PM
Im in the DDave camp here - the link swaps have been pulled over there for a month - no notice from anyone - and they look like they are using the same damn review graphics from a very sucessful review site on the web - so my links to them are gone - and have instituted a policy of not accepting free sites advertising netpondcash

(can you tell Im not happy?)

Linkster
2007-02-08, 04:42 PM
In answer to the 100 word descr thingy
Why not try to sucker your submitters into doing site reviews for you - hell - they sucker people into bigger things than that these days - certainly cheaper than hiring real reviewers for your link list/review site.

Greenguy
2007-02-08, 06:09 PM
Jeremy confirmed to Linkster & me that he has not worked with/for Netpond since December, so at least we know he's not lost his mind :)

I also sent an ICQ to Meatman to see if he can explain what's going on.

Wiggles
2007-02-08, 06:12 PM
i got my spanking freesite listed as #1 review for spanking category freesites, not alot of traffic. like under 20uniques in a week.

mihai
2007-02-08, 08:20 PM
Hey GG, is Diako that maintain NP linklist now...
You can reach him at diako74 at netpond.com...
And the required description is not 100 (or 150 words) but 150 CHARACTERS...
(and the traffic I got from them is pretty ok)

Greenguy
2007-02-08, 09:25 PM
Hey GG, is Diako that maintain NP linklist now...
You can reach him at diako74 at netpond.com...
And the required description is not 100 (or 150 words) but 150 CHARACTERS...
(and the traffic I got from them is pretty ok)2 is my limit on contacting people on problems that I really don't care about :D But feel free to send him this thread if you want.

And as far as the 100/150 thing, I'd bet that it was 100 words & they changed it to 150 characters after they realized how fucking stupid that request is.

erots7
2007-02-09, 04:31 AM
In answer to the 100 word descr thingy
Why not try to sucker your submitters into doing site reviews for you - hell - they sucker people into bigger things than that these days - certainly cheaper than hiring real reviewers for your link list/review site.

So you don't like more traffic? |huh

To be honest I find some linklist rules much more bizarre than something like 150 word description.

I guess you'll soon see what this is about. Although I must say that Netpond Linklist already sends pretty decent traffic.

jonnydoe
2007-02-09, 05:12 AM
It is now 150 characters...I imagine their submissions plunged and their complaints went up. The current rule was posted on 1/9 and I started the original thread on this well before that. 150 characters is not bad...some TGPs are up to around 90 or so I believe.

Hey GG, is Diako that maintain NP linklist now...
You can reach him at diako74 at netpond.com...
And the required description is not 100 (or 150 words) but 150 CHARACTERS...
(and the traffic I got from them is pretty ok)

Fonz
2007-02-09, 05:23 AM
So you don't like more traffic? |huh

To be honest I find some linklist rules much more bizarre than something like 150 word description.

I guess you'll soon see what this is about. Although I must say that Netpond Linklist already sends pretty decent traffic.

You should really get your tongue out of someone's ass...

JackDaniel's
2007-02-09, 05:47 AM
:D:D:D:D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNaid75vkdE

Meat
2007-02-09, 06:04 AM
Without going thru pages of posts lol...

We changed the format on Netpond link list from a link list to a review site. Where we provide not just pay site reviews but also free site reviews.

We took a major dump in Google losing over 150,000 google hits per day and we belive it had soemthing to do with how the link list was structured in its previous form, hence the rediesign.

We are hoping the new format will regain us our positions within google and the traffic will return over time and we will continually tweak it till we are sure we are not breaking any google rules.

So we ask for some comment on the sites your submitting...big fucking deal lol, have u guys seen some of the rules you have to do to get a link on some sites?

We dont feel letting you guys write your own reviews is any major hardship and if you cant be bothered to do so then its easy solution...Dont fucking submit sites lol, we dont give a shit as everyone else says, its our fucking site and we will make the fucking rules up, that only means if and when we get our google traffic back then there will be more to go arond those sites that have bothered to submit descriptions.

And to get it coorect, its not 100 words its 100 charchters, some of you kiddies should be out flipping burgers at mcdonalds if you get so easily confused:)

Meat
2007-02-09, 06:08 AM
re the recip links, we are working on getting everything in, its a technical thing not soemthing we planned on but had some trouble improting allt he old links into the new swcript

We dont fuck with webmasters, never have, never will, all recips will go into the new site and techy is working on writing a fix script.

Mateusz
2007-02-09, 06:24 AM
And to get it coorect, its not 100 words its 100 charchters, some of you kiddies should be out flipping burgers at mcdonalds if you get so easily confused:)
|bullshit| It was 100 words and it was confirmed in post #56 ( thread Submit to Netponds all new Link List' )

Meat
2007-02-09, 06:29 AM
taken from our submit page

Submit any type of free site. Blogs, Tgps, Linklists, Galleries etc. We will rank it and list it in our directory. Please give a detailed description of your site. A good description will give you a better ranking. Descriptions should be over 150 characters. We do not have many rules but those we have you must follow

http://adult.netpond.com/submit.php

Fonz
2007-02-09, 06:52 AM
Mateusz is correct on this one. This whole shouting thing started with the 100 words issue. I've always had (and still have) a lot of admiration for the Netpond LL and now that the descriptions only have to be 100 words I might consider submitting to it again. I don't think you guys wanted to fuck people over like suggested in other threads. But a linklist of that size could have handled things better. If I'm not mistaken most LL's have taken a major drop in SE hits over the last months.

About that "Taken from our submit page" issue. It says that now but it didn't said that before.

Meat
2007-02-09, 07:03 AM
yes your right fonz, it was originnaly 150 words, im not sure why it was 150 words but it was changed very soon after to 150 charachters (may have been a simple typo but i wasnt invovled int hat so cant really comment other than what it is now

150 charchters works out to be about 10 to 20 words.

hopefully we are on the riight track to making google happy again, without all the blindish linking that was on the old link list im m sure the 150 charchters will be the most profitable 20 words written by any porn webmaster should we get our google traffic back.

mihai
2007-02-09, 07:24 AM
It is now 150 characters...I imagine their submissions plunged and their complaints went up. The current rule was posted on 1/9 and I started the original thread on this well before that. 150 characters is not bad...some TGPs are up to around 90 or so I believe.

I think the new design/system is in place since 09-10.01 or so...
As soon as it was done it was announced on their board.

Licker4U
2007-02-09, 07:52 AM
We dont feel letting you guys write your own reviews is any major hardship and if you cant be bothered to do so then its easy solution...Dont fucking submit sites lol, we dont give a shit as everyone else says, its our fucking site and we will make the fucking rules up

I won't submit sites because I don't like your attitude |fuckyou|

And to get it coorect, its not 100 words its 100 charchters, some of you kiddies should be out flipping burgers at mcdonalds if you get so easily confused:)

No one is/was confused. It DID say 150 words, that's what put so many people off. If I had to choose between flipping burgers and submitting to you, "would you like fries with that?" |asshole|

Useless
2007-02-09, 08:36 AM
And to get it coorect, its not 100 words its 100 charchters, some of you kiddies should be out flipping burgers at mcdonalds if you get so easily confused:)Hmmm...I wonder who should be carrying the spatula now?

150 characters really isn't all that bad. Might be twice as many as most lists, but still isn't bad. But for you to come here and insult the shit out of everyone else when you don't know what it is they're complaining about, well, that's pretty fucked.

BTW, charchters is typo - words is not.

Greenguy
2007-02-09, 10:23 AM
re the recip links, we are working on getting everything in, its a technical thing not soemthing we planned on but had some trouble improting allt he old links into the new swcript

We dont fuck with webmasters, never have, never will, all recips will go into the new site and techy is working on writing a fix script.Meat - it's been over a month since those category trades with other Link Lists were taken offline (and promised to be back online shortly)

Script or not, you could have added them all by hand in that time frame. When you look at it from the other LL owner's POV, you're got a shitload of non-recip'd links pointing at you while we sit here & wonder how long it takes to re-add existing trades.

I hate to say it, but I think you're going to loose all those trades because you guys dragged your feet on getting the links back online :(

Linkster
2007-02-09, 10:36 AM
Greenie - I dont know how anyone was notified - I know I wasnt - which is what led to me being just a little peeved (to put it mildly) - its not like it was a hell of a lot of links - 18 cat trades on each category which, with me adding links manually, is about 3 hours work on 74 categories (which I know they didnt have close to at the time)
and a total of 36 "friends" trades on the index page which still are not back in - again an easy 20 minute job at the most. Seems if it takes a month to get a script to do a 3 hour job then something is possibly wrong with the "concept planning"?

erots7
2007-02-09, 05:41 PM
And to get it coorect, its not 100 words its 100 charchters, some of you kiddies should be out flipping burgers at mcdonalds if you get so easily confused:)

all suddenly makes sense now.

DangerDave
2007-02-09, 06:01 PM
We dont fuck with webmasters, never have, never will, all recips will go into the new site and techy is working on writing a fix script.

No but it appears you try to bulllshit them Meat..

... lets not forget the Netpond Blog... that also had many links swaps.. and also got killed without notice..

It is only thru the personal efforts of one Netpond (ex)employee that you got a single link from me... which I never would have normally done..... Now I will go back to my old policy of having nothing at all to do with Netpond. :(

Seems if it takes a month to get a script to do a 3 hour job then something is possibly wrong with the "concept planning"? - 20 mins with a WYSIWYG editor would get the job done... if it is/was ever going to be done.!! |huh


BTW, charchters is typo - words is not. - touche! :D

DD

Meat
2007-02-12, 06:04 AM
Dave

Not sure what the problem with your blog is, i have had one up for long time and its working fine

http://www.netpondblog.com/meat1

email greg@netpond.com with some links and i will get someone to look at it

netpond link list links should be up on the link list now, a script had to be built to merge the old links from old link list script into new format and new review script format. We are still trying to get the main page links up and they should be done in the next few days but cos of how the review script is built its not simply a case of cutting and pasting from old to new.

Sorry for any problems caused feel free to pull our links the link exchanges we have will be honoured regardless of people pulling our recips and thanks for the understanding from everyone LMAO

Meat
2007-02-12, 06:05 AM
can someone spell check that for me

lol

Greenguy
2007-02-12, 10:02 AM
...netpond link list links should be up on the link list now, a script had to be built to merge the old links from old link list script into new format and new review script format. We are still trying to get the main page links up and they should be done in the next few days but cos of how the review script is built its not simply a case of cutting and pasting from old to new...It took you guys a month to add a table of links to each of the free site category pages?

I also like that the main page's category list defaults to the review pages & not the free site listings - submitters should be getting pounded with traffic now |thumb

I can sorta understand trying to reinvent yourself because your SE traffic took a crap, but I think that the person you are getting advice from has little or no knowledge of running a Link List (but maybe your goal is to no longer be a legit Link List?)

You can pull my links from those unpleasant out-of-place looking tables.

MrYum
2007-02-12, 03:37 PM
Damn morals and ethics sometimes really piss me off |banghead|

I really wanted to afford you the same courtesy that was given to those with trades to your site, meaning none. Figured I'd just yank your links and say something about it a few weeks or perhaps months later.

But alas...those fucking ethics of mine kicked in |banghead|

Your links are down...feel free to re-unreciprocate.

diako74
2007-02-22, 08:59 PM
I have read this thread a couple of times now and don't really want to go over all the old issues that have hopefully been sorted.

Probably wasn't handled the best but from now on any issues or questions you have or anything your not happy with email me at diako74@netpond.com and I will check it out.

I understand there are many of you that posted in this thread that feel hard done by and I wont offer any excuses apart from the Xmas and new year period probably added to the delay in sorting out adult.netpond which should have been done much quicker than what it was. By the way I only came on board from the 10th January so don's blame me:).

Greenie, I didn't get the point of your sig, are you taking the piss? I just went through your news letter trying to work it out. If your just teasing let me know, I love a good laugh, even at my own expense.