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[serch85]

Hi, this is an idea.
Why dont a few LinkLists get together and make only 1 submit url form?
That would be really good for all the webmasters.
You only have to make a submit form and this form has to send to each LL the info.
greetinGs,

Serch

[Fonz]

Yes, and we will also make the freesites for you in advance.

Every LL has different categories so this is one thing that might be an obstacle.

[serch85]

You've to choose the category in each LL, and match if you're going to submit the fs to this LL.
Something like www.addfreesite.com
greetinGs,

Serch

[neticule]

more work for the linklist owners, i dont see it happening.

dont get me wrong, id love to submit on 1 form and get a site listed at 40 places, but it wont happen :) some webmasters have 1 form for several of their own sites, but I rarely see cross-webmaster linklists doing it. It wont happen because too much work would be involved, and linklist owners would get little or nothing out of it...

and as fonz pointed out, they all have different categories, as well as rules and tastes.

But hey, here is to daydreaming! ;)

[Greenguy]

Hey! We could then all hire one reviewer (I nominate MrMaryLou |thumb) & he could approve all the links with the same descriptions, decline all the submits for the same reason & blacklist a lot of people on a daily basis :D

serch85 - I understand what you're saying, but it'd never work with all the different rules & categories & admins & whatnot.

[spacemanspiff]

Plus it could lead to a bunch of link lists with very similar pages, which Google frowns upon.

[Cleo]

Maybe it would be best if except except Greenguy closed our lists and then Greenguy could just mail us a check each month.

He could just address my checks to the Big Redhead relaxing somewhere on Fort Lauderdale beach.

[babymaker]

would be a good idea for a bunch of smaller new lists to do tho, since a bunch of webmasters would be more willing to submit a mirror with the one table done to one page and have it listed. As oppsed to them just saying fuck it this guy only gets 100 hits a day lol fuck him.

[juggernaut]

Sounds kind of like a linkdump to me.

[Linkster]

You've to choose the category in each LL, and match if you're going to submit the fs to this LL.
Something like www.addfreesite.com
greetinGs,

Serch

Amazing that the rules page says its based on Greenys rules - yet they forgot to change their rules when Greeny did

[Jeka]

I think it would work out and everybody could save some time if linklist owners just would want to save you some time but obviously they don't want that ;)

With a little bit of coding and networking together it would be possible to do that!! You could have 1 single page with for example 12 different fields for descriptions, one for each link list...
A few category fields that automatically switch the name on the link lists if they have different category names etc.

[Magix]

it would be great for the FS makers, but not for link lists, so i don't see it happening...

[Dev~>]

I'm the admin of one LL (http://porn-selection.com/) from add free site (http://addfreesite.com/), we are 17 admins, each admin has total control on his own LL.
So, each free site is reviewed 17 times, and listed or not based on common free sites rules and administrator rules.
I've added some clean free sites posted here (http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/showthread.php?t=19156&page=2#49) and submitions are open |boobies|.

[Linkster]

So if you have 17 different LLs how come they are all owned by the same people (same group) in Montevideo Uruguay?

[Linkster]

Never mind - I figured it out - this is all part of the same network - same as the hungarian-honeys.net bangbrossex.com etc

[Greenguy]

Never mind - I figured it out - this is all part of the same network - same as the hungarian-honeys.net bangbrossex.com etc

OH! So they rip off popular paysite names as well as other peoples rules |thumb

[Linkster]

Still working on it because their best linking partners??? are doing the same thing and even are running a newsenstions domain variant - guess its really up to the guys at NS

[Xyborg]

So if you have 17 different LLs how come they are all owned by the same people (same group) in Montevideo Uruguay?

Never mind - I figured it out - this is all part of the same network - same as the hungarian-honeys.net bangbrossex.com etc

Hi Linkster, my name is Martin Aberastegue, I'm the owner of pornaddicts.us, another site listed on addfreesite.com, and I'm from Argentine, not Uruguay, some admins are from Spain too, we are a small network of LL owners, each LL is totally independent of the others, and YES, we use the same php script, but everyone is owner of their own LL, we follow the same (similars) rules, and the site addfreesite.com is used by us to do a little more simple the work for the FS makers, this is a joint effort, we are not spammers or nothing else, don´t think badly please, we only want to progress and feel free to analyze all the sites and you would see that we are not the same people like Linkster said before and you will see that everything is in order.

|thumb

[DJilla]

I think its great when new members come straight on and share their "great ideas" with us. Unfortunately, don't think this is one of the best!

[elmister]

Hi, i'm another webmaster affiliated to addfreesite, i'm the webmaster of linkstosex.com and one of the programmers involved in the customization of the script we are using, as Xyborg said, we are all different webmasters, one of our rules is that nobody can own more than one linklist of the network.

When we say that ours rules are based on greenguy's rules, we try to make things simple, if you know the rules of reputable site like GreenGuy's and agree them, then you can skip reading the rules, you can also read them if you like they are not very different.

In other words, our rules are not much different than the rules of other linklists, if you are familiar with the standard rules and agree them, go ahead and submit, and don't waste your time reading the same rules again and again. This is not a problem for professional webmasters that follow the rules ;-)

We are open to receive your submissions, your comments would be greatly appreciated.

By the way, i'm from Spain (Europe), not Montevideo, Uruguay

[Linkster]

Well - I guess I didnt check every LL on there - they are only using the same script to add free sites automatically - although it looks like almost every one of them is the same group and quite honestly when I see zoophilia as one of the categories on a LL I tend to stay away from that type of group - but thats just me

[elmister]

zoophilia?

If that's true, i'm gonna kill someone...

Don't worry, that category will dissapear, or the webmaster will dissapear from our network

I've found the linklist with that category, contacted the webmaster, and he will remove the category meanwhile i edit this post
By the way, the category was empty

Thank you for warning about that

[morruga]

OH! So they rip off popular paysite names as well as other peoples rules |thumb


Not everyone in the admin group does that... but certainly i would buy domains that are common spelling mistakes if that would mean money... who wont do that? plz through the first rock :D

For those who think we are the same person behind 17 linklist i can tell you that is not like that. We all work for the adult industry but for spanish public. Some of us has been working since 1998 and we are from Uruguay, Argentina and Spain.

Our rules are based on standars established by link-o-rama but that doesn't mean that we have the exact same rules... or that we must have the same rules... we're BASED on those rules so we have a common base as a begining... then we fix rules to our needs, i don't see any problem with that but if you think there's a problem then please let us know. Every country has similar Traffic Rules and Regulations for cars and they are all based on common concepts... and i don't see fighting for that.. what i see is noobs countries learingn from experts countries with better rules! i see that as something positive |catfight|

We took greenguy and all the biggest linklist as pioneers of a hole concept of high quality and targeted traffic and we are just following your steps.

And the fact that we have this submitter doesnt mean that you will get the same review of your site, we all think quite different and you'll probably receive rejections as acceptances due to this different thinking issue |loony|

And that's the reason why you can chose which linklist you want to send your freesite to.

So there is absolutely nothing to fear and i can tell you that google will be friendly with us. You could say "why this dude is so self-confident about that??? is he high?" well... im high almost 24/7 but the reason is that our party leader (the one who get us together and started with the scripting stuff) reached first positions in google with terms like "sexo", "sexo gratis" and more!

check his stats here:
http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?url=www.viendosexo.com
http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?url=www.sexyvista.com

not bad |jackinthe

regards

[morruga]

zoophilia?

If that's true, i'm gonna kill someone...

Don't worry, that category will dissapear, or the webmaster will dissapear from our network

I've found the linklist with that category, contacted the webmaster, and he will remove the category meanwhile i edit this post
By the way, the category was empty

Thank you for warning about that


sorry to interrupt... is not he but SHE. |catfight|

[Greenguy]

Here's my advice to you guys:
1 - create your own rules
2 - come up with your own ideas for domains

Stop being fucking sheep & following what everyone else is doing & stop trying to fuck over hard working webmasters by buying similar or typo domain names.

[Linkster]

Greenie - thank you - my thoughts exactly- these guys that go out and buy domains and switch words or do shit like linking using the name of another persons LL - to me thats just wrong
I know of two sites that took my linkforsex - linksonsex and linkstosex as well as the guy that they have in there doing the "free sites xxx" link on their site trying I guess to steal listings
Its the same as them registering link-of-rama and putting up a link list

Sorry - but thats just BS and no one doing that type of stuff will get any respect here

Im also adding a new rule that if I find anyone submitting free sites with any of those LLs mentioned above will be banned - including other LLs that link to them - Ive had enough of the stealing

[Dev~>]

zoophilia is not tolerated, was a stupid webmistress mistake,
stop trying to fuck over hard working webmasters by buying similar or typo domain names.
The domain named by Linkster ( hungarian-honeys.net ) is not a member of our network, is hosted on the same server but is shit of someone.

[DJilla]

Stop trying to fuck over hard working webmasters by buying similar or typo domain names.

You know our southern continent friends could have a viable business model that may represent a trend. We've all seen the "collective" approach in the negative light too many times. But what if you could do it with honest guys you knew weren't going to fuck you?

About the general topic of buying same or like kind domain names and trying to exploit them; I'm always surprised by the hatred towards those that try these attempts. You generally only see this in porn and yet is a commonly held attitude.

IMHO This approach has been considered commonly fair game for a long time in mainstream. Its seen as the investment in your brand. Its up to you to grap all the close domains you can think of on the basis of how important it is to you and if you forget, oops. Likewise true, these many domains have been associated with spam and such but there are great, legitimate, competitive uses for them if not only for resale. IMHO

[BishopWeber]

I know of two sites that took my linkforsex - linksonsex and linkstosex as well as the guy that they have in there doing the "free sites xxx" link on their site trying I guess to steal listings
Its the same as them registering link-of-rama and putting up a link list

There is people trying to get traffic by using domain names similar to well know domains, but if a domain name is something generic like yours, there is to many possible combinations to that name, and if some one choose a similar one you cant think that is because of yours. Other thing is if its something like chloe18 for example. That's not a generic domain, chloe18pics or cloe18 can be seen like copys. But if its a combination of some common words it can be most coincidence than a copy attempt.
My thought.

[Linkster]

So Bishop - you think it would be ok if someone were to buy lets say - worldsexs or worldosex (some nice generic names) and put up a tgp?

/added - never mind - I see that you are doing the same thing with another GG posters domains too - Im sure Fred will be happy to see that

It is an obvious attempt to try to use confusing names for their benefit - and my final word on it as this is getting really tiring - anyone that links to them - gets removed from my LL - I dont care who it is

[DJilla]

But if its a combination of some common words it can be most coincidence than a copy attempt.
My thought.

Let's be clear though; we are talking about domains not accumulated by accident but for the express attempt to capitalize off of someone elses domian recognition.

Now I've never done this nor would I, and I'm sure it really sucks if it happens to you, but if it did me I would be more mad at me for not grabbing it then someone else for capitalizing on it. This has just become too common a part of this biz with the domain names left and competition for traffic.

Now the flip side was if its a spam and/or virus site that is made up to look like yours too then its giving you a bad rap and you deserve to loosen the hounds of hell upon them endlessly until they are out of business.

[BishopWeber]

There is to many possibilities, may be the webmaster touhgt that name for his site, maybe the name was allready taken and he choouse the nearest name he imagine, maybe he want to copy the name.
There is a lot of specific domain names to analyse but thats not my point.
Im talking about common and original names. Google is a original name, but if you have a site related to google SEO, what name will you choouse? GoogleSEO may be my first chioce. If someone create a fake serch site and buy Gogle.com or something like that, there is no doubt about his intentions.
About generic names, if a webmaster build a LL related to movies, the name easily can be linksformovies or links4movies, if its related to tomatoes, will you think its a copy of your's if the name is linksfortomatoes.com? What I say is that linksfor is a generic name and may be to many domains using it. Related to sex?, linksforporn, linkstosex, links4pussy, etc, etc...

[dareutwo]

Google is a noun -
SEO is an acronym - as is SFSSB, which I believe to be the case here.

[BishopWeber]

I see that you are doing the same thing with another GG posters domains too - Im sure Fred will be happy to see that


I know there is a linklist with a name like the one I have, I submit freesites to it, it's obious that there is a lot of sites using the generic words I select. I simply select some common words that people may serch 4 and check availability. Im sure that if I serch 4 the words U use in your domain name I easily find some site to say that you copy the name from it. Why? becouse yours and mine are generic domain names.

[plateman]

well kind glad the subject is raised here, I bought a domain adultpornmovielinks.com and am still trying to have extra money to put up a LL with a script...

greenie knows I had that domain way before he launched his movie LL, so that know one knows I am Not scabbing his traffic or stealing and have plans of roughing in the site without a script and putting up my FS on the pages...

the thing linkster said that is BS is that people or groups buy up the similar domians around popular sites and hope to scab off of it

[elmister]

I got the domain linkstosex.com on 01-Sep-2002, i got that name because i liked it, its a good generic name, i saw it listed in a expired domains list (exactly in deleteddomains.com), so someone got it before me and let it expire, so i got it.

Looking at archive.org, the domain was parked at yahoo on 23, Jan 2002, and had 'something' on June 2003 (web.archive.org gives an error, can't see what was on the domain), considering that, do you really think that i registered the domain because you were "famous"?

I don't mind if someone here has any other name with the words "link" and "sex", any name with that 2 words can be reasonably used to contain "links" to adult sites, pages, movies, and whatever you like.

About the rules: the only text shown is "rules based on Link-O-Rama", so if a webmaster knows Link-O-Rama rules, can save his time reading the rules, rules are original from us, text is not copied from Link-O-Rama, but simply put a link to Link-O-Rama. We did our own rules, not a single phrase was copied, the only mistake was to put that phrase

[Greenguy]

well kind glad the subject is raised here, I bought a domain adultpornmovielinks.com and am still trying to have extra money to put up a LL with a script...

greenie knows I had that domain way before he launched his movie LL, so that know one knows I am Not scabbing his traffic or stealing and have plans of roughing in the site without a script and putting up my FS on the pages...
Way before I launched? Murray & I registered the domain in 1999 & it was a movie only tgp until I changed it over to the movie only linklist last year.

You might have bought it 2 months before I changed it over to a link list, but it was registered & online for 5 years before you bought your domain.

Don't get me wrong - I don't think you bought that domain to fuck me over or anything, but let's get some fact straight.

...About the rules: the only text shown is "rules based on Link-O-Rama", so if a webmaster knows Link-O-Rama rules, can save his time reading the rules, rules are original from us, text is not copied from Link-O-Rama, but simply put a link to Link-O-Rama. We did our own rules, not a single phrase was copied, the only mistake was to put that phraseTake that text off of there. You know what my rules are based on? They are based on what I like when I surf free sites.

[elmister]

Take that text off of there.

I'll contact site maintainer, that line of text will be removed ASAP

[plateman]

ok I didnt know that GG when you bought the domain, when I had the idea for a movie LL I was at directnic typing in combinations till I found one that wasnt taken, thats how I came to getting my domain, also that domain dosent get but 2 or 3 uniques a day and some days 0

[DangerDave]

A warning to all submitters..

Think about who you submit to.. and what that action might cost you in the long run...

I would avoid these guys at all costs...

DD

[plateman]

A warning to all submitters..

Think about who you submit to.. and what that action might cost you in the long run...

I would avoid these guys at all costs...

DD

isnt that the truth i was just talking to linkster today about sort of the same thing.... IF you have a link List BE very carfull who you link to for trades....check even well known ones that they didnt over look something with a hard link trade

And most important check every dam whois on your submitters and look at the root....and if you dont feel right about accepting the site Dont list it...

And If your not sure after checking whois ask another LL if that submitter is ok....

I wont go into a whole bunch - But there are other networks out there trying to slide into a stronger linking neiborhood anyway they can...

[gomin]

There is only and one only problem here. None north american guy likes to share his market with another guy. It is not important if one has born in south america, rusia, spain or whatever. As this so callerd 'americans' did not read a dictionary nor wikipedia, they do not notice the difference. The only thing they note is that the money form americans buyers must go to american pockets.

And yes, my 'grasp of english' is not as good as yours.. hehe

[Greenguy]

isnt that the truth i was just talking to linkster today about sort of the same thing.... IF you have a link List BE very carfull who you link to for trades....check even well known ones that they didnt over look something with a hard link trade

And most important check every dam whois on your submitters and look at the root....and if you dont feel right about accepting the site Dont list it...

And If your not sure after checking whois ask another LL if that submitter is ok....

I wont go into a whole bunch - But there are other networks out there trying to slide into a stronger linking neiborhood anyway they can...So DDave advises submitters to watch who they submit to & you go off on a rant about link list owners looking into who's submitting to them? |huh

There is only and one only problem here. None north american guy likes to share his market with another guy. It is not important if one has born in south america, rusia, spain or whatever. As this so callerd 'americans' did not read a dictionary nor wikipedia, they do not notice the difference. The only thing they note is that the money form americans buyers must go to american pockets.

And yes, my 'grasp of english' is not as good as yours.. hehe

I've said it before & I'll say it again: I'm an English speaking webmaster that markets to English speaking surfers. I don't care where people live, I just care that the sites I'm linking to are written in proper English.

[Xyborg]

It is an obvious attempt to try to use confusing names for their benefit - and my final word on it as this is getting really tiring - anyone that links to them - gets removed from my LL - I dont care who it is

|catfight|
Are you in your period, Linkster?

You are angry because you think that somebody has stolen the name of your LL, and that's not true, and you know that.

[elmister]

A warning to all submitters..

Think about who you submit to.. and what that action might cost you in the long run...

I would avoid these guys at all costs...

DD

Can you give a REAL reason for that? or simply you don't like our sites?

[Linkster]

You are angry because you think that somebody has stolen the name of your LL, and that's not true, and you know that.

I think I already addressed that - I also said Im done with it and the links are being pulled right now

[elmister]

It is an obvious attempt to try to use confusing names for their benefit - and my final word on it as this is getting really tiring - anyone that links to them - gets removed from my LL - I dont care who it is

Curious words from someone that owns domains like 'amateurpagex.com', oh, no, what does "trying to use confusing names for your benefit" means?
But you blame me for registering linkstosex.com when your site was nearly just born or even didn't born.

To any people proposing a ban for us, give us REAL reasons for that.

-We wrote our rules, only put a line in them telling people we like Greenguy rules with a link to his site, we haven't copied, stole, etc, just said we like those rules. GG asked us to remove that line, it has been done or will be done in the following hours (asap). I accept that GG didn't like it, but it was done without bad intentions (we really like GG's site as an example of good work)

-Linkster (a domainer that buys confusing names for his benefit -amateurpagex.com for example-) acused me of buying a domain 'similar' to one of his domains for my benefit. I gave my version on the story a few posts above, i bought my domain (linkstosex.com) when his site didn't even existed (was registered, but web.archive.org shows a parking page for linkforsex.com). By the way, both domains are built of generic terms.

-Oh wait, we deserve the death because we speak spanish!!! You, so called 'english speaking webmasters', want to sell all the world, no matter which country the surfer is, no matter if US, french, german, arabian, japanese or spanish, you accept all traffic and all credit cards for every country of the world, but don't want to accept webmasters from the same countries. I know a word for that... just imagine it.

We are professional webmasters that work by the rules and will continue working even if you don't like us.

[Greenguy]

Can you give a REAL reason for that? or simply you don't like our sites?

Dave posting is reason enough for 99.44% of the members of this board.

[MrYum]

Dave posting is reason enough for 99.44% of the members of this board.
That does indeed speak volumes.

Adding in the other things that have come to light in this thread, and the original posters 'great idea'...followed a few posts later by a link to the submission site...pretty much says the rest.

[Vodka]

Greenie - thank you - my thoughts exactly- these guys that go out and buy domains and switch words or do shit like linking using the name of another persons LL - to me thats just wrong
I know of two sites that took my linkforsex - linksonsex and linkstosex as well as the guy that they have in there doing the "free sites xxx" link on their site trying I guess to steal listings
Its the same as them registering link-of-rama and putting up a link list

Sorry - but thats just BS and no one doing that type of stuff will get any respect here

Im also adding a new rule that if I find anyone submitting free sites with any of those LLs mentioned above will be banned - including other LLs that link to them - Ive had enough of the stealing

The domain "pornitube.com" is yours and/or you're trying to sell it?
As seen on your sign http://www.batchdomains.com/adultdomains.html

And you're talking about respect? |crazy| LOL

[Xyborg]

Linkster's domain:
http://whois.domaintools.com/pornitube.com Record created on 07-27-2006

The original domain names (copied by Linkster):
http://whois.domaintools.com/porntube.com Created on: 29-11-2004
http://whois.domaintools.com/pornotube.com Record created on 02-14-2006

|greenguy|

[Linkster]

I appreciate the advertising |jester|

Not one of those domains has a web site on it - and yes every one of them is listed for sale - would you like to buy some and put up some more rip off sites?

I am selling every one of those domains as I am need the money for the heart surgery I just had - hopefully I can make my money back on what I paid the guy for his portfolio

[BishopWeber]

Hi, this is an idea.
Why dont a few LinkLists get together and make only 1 submit url form?
That would be really good for all the webmasters.
You only have to make a submit form and this form has to send to each LL the info.
greetinGs,

Serch

Hey serch85, please, no more good ideas. Look at the mess it couses:
17 LL banned from many sites, 17 or more links to GG's linklist deleted, some kind of LL owners internal affairs investigation, a new international relations conflict and the extinction of dinosaurs.
Oh, sorry, that was a meteorite. lol

[Vodka]

{...} every one of them is listed for sale - would you like to buy some and put up some more rip off sites? {...}

This is not a valid argument, you're absolutely cynical by reproaching other people something you're doing... Mmmm, no... wait a moment, the-guy-who-clonned-your-site bought his domain a year before you bought yours! |banghead| I repeat: |crazy| LOL

[Linkster]

Vodka - you might do a quick check of whois - he bought it a good year and a half after I put my site up in March of 2001

[Dev~>]

I appreciate the advertising
Not one of those domains has a web site on it - and yes every one of them is listed for sale - would you like to buy some and put up some more rip off sites?

Blabla, linkstobla.com, its free can be yours. elmister won't anger |thumb
Can you give a REAL reason for that? or simply you don't like our sites?
By now i don't read any REAL nada, just blabla.

I put my site up in March of 2001
Lets see

[Vodka]

Vodka - you might do a quick check of whois - he bought it a good year and a half after I put my site up in March of 2001

Yes, you're right, I've checked linkSforsex.com.

But I'm still thinking you're strict in excess at this point. You might be interested in advertise pornitube.com on greenguyandyin.com board instead of ban ban ban. |loony| If he's wrong, I suppose you're wrong too...

Bye |waves|

[elmister]

Vodka - you might do a quick check of whois - he bought it a good year and a half after I put my site up in March of 2001

WRONG, your domain shows a yahoo parking page on January 2002, according to web.archive.org

[Linkster]

Wrong - again - heres the site as of Nov 2001:
http://web.archive.org/web/20011130193155/http://www.linkforsex.com/
I dont know why you would get a yahoo parking page since the domain was never at yahoo - if you had done a simple whois you could have told that

And archive.org takes 6 months to put a site in its archive

[Linkster]

Now how bout we stop this shit - Ive already pulled the links - none of this makes any difference to anyone anymore obviously

[Chop Smith]

Not one single 'cocksucker'. How times have changed?

Why would a group of wannabes take on the majors? Stupid cocksuckers. A bunch of damn foreigners and one idiot.

[Vodka]

Why would a group of wannabes take on the majors? Stupid cocksuckers. A bunch of damn foreigners and one idiot.

Obtain a brain and use it properly, Forrest.

[gomin]

Obtain a brain and use it properly, Forrest.

I'm afraid he can't. Doesn't know how it's like. BTW, advertising brains in this forum could be a great business
|pokefun|

[Fonz]

Linkster, stop waisting your time on these guys.

Stupid foreigners |couch|

[stuveltje]

Linkster, stop waisting your time on these guys.

Stupid foreigners |couch|
heay heay!!!! you bad belgium guy:D