Hey Rumpleforeskin: What Do You Like and/or Dislike About This Board?

[Greenguy]

Jim & I need to pat ourselves on the back as well as kick each other in the shins :)

So what do you like and/or dislike about this board?

Give us a list of each.

Don't worry if you dislike something that's you assume is a hard & steady rule of the board - we're looking for honest opinions.

[Cleo]

It's kewl minty green.

That and the community that frequents this place.

[Fonz]

Like:
- Like Cleo said, htis place has a great community
- This is a board where real webmasters that want to make real money hang out. Not one of those "Yes I agree" and "I'd hit it" boards with 500 new useless (no offens UW :) ) posts every day.
- Besides from the very useful business threads like the blogging, link trade, TGP, LL forum there's also some room to chit chat :)
- You always get help from people who know what they're talking about not from people who have no clue about the topic but want to get their post count up.
- Some nice contests once in a while
- Webmaster resources are extremly useful, so are Greenguy's stats, it gives you an idea what converts and what not
- The archived radio show on tuesday. It gives me something to listen to the next day
- OTB with MML, very useful for if you have questions as a newbie and a not so newbie
- Thread titles that confuse the hell out of new members :D

Dislike:
- Not enough contests, I like to get free stuff :D
- The Search Engine chat is at an impossible hour for some of us. An archive of that chat would be very nice.

If I think of anything else I'll let you know :)

[LB]

Ok hopefully I won't get torn to shreds.. and I will keep it short and only address the things that really stand out to me.

Like :

- All about business. I love that!

- Greenguy and Jim, you both have an even handed and fair way of dealing with any problems or issues. Never seen a board moderated so well.

- Its the linklist board. There is no other board with this wealth of information on linklists and freesites.

Dislike

- Far too sensitive. Many members are far too easy to offend and too quick to lash out. Sometimes it feels like walking on egg shells, and while this is a small and tight community it can also be a hostile community towards 'outsiders' at times.

- Too many subforums. My board time is limited, and while I spend most of it on netpond, I have always read GG&J and try to fit in some time here. I like to look at a main forum with heaps of posts in it, not have to click around a whole heap of subforums. Just personal preference though, and honestly I think its not something you could change now.

[sue-fl]

Likes: Great people who are always willing to help and give of their time.

OTB I have learned so much from MML that has helped me really bring in sales.

Green is my favorite color :D

It's also a great place to come to get some distraction during working. Always a post that will make me laugh.

Since joining here my online business has taken off, I don't think I would be doing as well as I am if I wasn't a member of this board.

Dislikes:
To be honest I can't think of any |thumb

[iMan]

Well, I'm fairly new here.. but:

Me likes:
Nice people, helpful people, a wealth of great info i the archives.
I'm only doing free sites now and this is THE place for that.

Me dislikes:
I'd like the search to be better.. either nothing is found or there's way too much to go through.

|thumb

[ponygirl]

wow, what a loaded question :D

well here's my list

like:
- of course the people. There's an amazing bunch here, with so many different personalities. Everyone is so willing to help and pass on advice.

I don't think this board is bad to outsiders, there's a few newbies (to the board) that come to mind in the last little while who have fit right in quite quickly. I think it's all in the attitude you come in with, and how (and how often) you interact with others here.

- the wealth of information |thumb This is THE place to be for freesite builders and new LL owners, and now it's getting good for bloggers too. The radio show is always fun & OTB is awesome - not just the shows, the chat & the interaction really bring everyone together |thumb

- I like a bit of chit chat too, but other boards seem to have a bit too much for me. I'm anti-social, doncha know ;)

- a little drama is nice too hehe

Generally, I am always here, lurking looking and posting. It feels like home :)

Dislikes:
- I agree that the seach feature isn't easy for me to use, but I'm not sure if that's just cuz I don't know how to use it well |huh

- there are some people who I would love to see posting more that for whatever reason, don't. That's too bad :(

- every morning when I go to post in the morning thread, just before I hit Preview, my damn PC crashes. Just about every time |angry|
(I know that's not a GG&J problem, it just pisses me off. I'm saving up for a new pc :D)

[ponygirl]

oh I just remembered too -

I like the new e-mail notifications, esp. for PMs.

I like all the forums, I just usually hit new posts anyway, and it can help narrow down searches.

I don't like the User Cp area, it still takes me forever to find out how to do what I want every time I want to change something.

I can't make the Member's List button on the top menu work. It just takes me back to the main forum page.

I'd have added to my last post but it seemed to long. Well, you asked for it :D

[walrus]

While this maybe "the" linklist board, even if that's not your thing, there is a wealth of knowledge here that can/will make you a better webmaster. Sometimes, it may be a little frustrating to find, but it's here and well worth the time it takes to dig out.

The people are great and the advice given is top notch.

[amadman]

I like all the people here.

The lack of bs posts.

The way things are orginized.

The 'New Posts' link

GG's Stats and other resources.


Dislikes:

The fact that I have been with the board since netsurprise and I don't know about about the secret forum and cant be in the football pool for gg's party.|cry|

[virgohippy]

The people who come here are serious about the business of porn. It shows even when chatting. :)

One thing I don't like, though I don't think it has anything to do with this board: I don't get invited to enough sex parties. |loony|

[swedguy]

Like:
More business oriented than some other boards

Dislikes:
I could be wrong (it has happened before #€&/!), but a year ago or two ago there were more new people coming here and staying. Now it feels like the same old crowd and a new head popping in every now and then, but doesn't stay around for too long.
I think a lot of it has to do with the attitude towards new people. Might not be just because they are new, but because they are clueless and someone ends up chewing their head off.

My 2 cents.

[Ramster]

Likes:
-The people here are about business. There is fun too and lots of offline chat topics but lots of work related threads and talk.

-The people. Friendly and knowledgeable. If I need help I come here!!

-They don't allow spammers to boost up their post counts. Spamming is fine, mentioning your products ect. but not posting just for sig views.

-Newbies wanting to learn this is the place to be. Incredible help is offered here!

Dislikes:
-I agree about newcomers getting blasted sometimes. Give them a break as maybe they don't really know the rules. If they are BLATANT spammers then flame the hell out of them.

Otherwise the board is pretty damn good. :)

[digifan]

It's a great board just like the people running it :)

Most of the members are helpful... some just ignore you from day #1 and I cannot get used to it. maybe I am sensitive :)

Being sensitive cannot be a problem, if I need some rudeness, I just go to gfy or icq pimpdog. But I can live without it... it just makes GG&J more outstanding and protects the members while proves all this adult forum thing can be done without being mean etc.

Contests, great point Fonz, we could use some :P

[virgohippy]

IMO, if a newbie can't handle a little harrassment from people who know a lot of useless shit then I'm willing to bet they probably don't have the fortitude to handle this business anyway. |huh

If it's a balance of sitting on the side and reading raw business talk vs. an environment filled with newbie friendliness, I'll take raw business talk and an adult dictionary anyday. |thumb

Personally, I like that newbies have to prove themselves before most people here extend extra, extra help. Means there's more pie left over for those who HAVE proven themlseves. :D

[softhaus]

What I like best about this board is that its active. I also like the fact that I'm actually learning something! Most boards are full of misinformation.

Here though when a poster answers a question and gives dubious information a senior member will jump in and politely tell them your full of it! I like that, keeps the newbie and the intermediate from spinning his or her wheels.

Good job all

[digifan]

IMO, if a newbie can't handle a little harrassment from people who know a lot of useless shit then I'm willing to bet they probably don't have the fortitude to handle this business anyway. |huh

I think you missed my point, I think that was not professional, that's all.

[MrYum]

The very fact that you guys asked this question speaks volumes about why I like this board so much |thumb

I came from another board (which shall remain nameless). The primary reason I stopped posting there was the owner of the board was constantly espousing his dubious 'knowledge' that was vastly out of date |loony|

As to the likes;

As most others have mentioned...the people! This is hands down the most helpful, friendly bunch I've run across in the online adult biz.

The huge volume of quality information available.

The mix of legit business information with a good flavoring of 'fun' stuff.

The ability to actually conduct business with people that are by and large trustworthy. Those that aren't trustworthy are promptly |bus|

I really don't think new folks get bashed unduly. Many of the folks here go out of their way to help newbies. The bashing only seems to start when a newbie attempts to change long established norms and doesn't accept it when they're informed that the topic has been discussed at length previously.

Dislikes;

About the only thing that comes to mind is that the board search seems to return irrelevant results sometimes.

All that said, I'll take this opportunity to publicly say thanks not only to GG & J (because they deserve it)...but also to all those who make this board what it is...simply the best place to be for free site builders and link list owners |thumb

[bluemoney]

I think this board is terrific; you can have fun here as well as benefit from the experience of some of the pioneers of the industry. As amadman pointed out, GG's Stats and other resources are a wealth of information for anyone who takes advantage of them |thumb

As mentioned before there is a lot of activity on this board which speaks directly to how well it is moderated, and the integrity of its members. I’m just glad to be here |bananna|

I can’t think of anything of any importance to bitch about |huh

[docholly]

Likes: Well it's all been said before in the previous list but I do have to add that sometimes a person's board persona is not the same as their real life self.. That is not the case ever with those I've been privileged to meet in real life (though fonz isn't here yet so I'll reserve cheetos and judgment) People who are frequent on GG&J are able to be themselves thus their personality shows. That says a lot for a community of people who work together every day. I think there is as much cooperation with people who have no other connection than meeting on GG&J yet do business together every day. |thumb

Dislikes: The board crash of 2003 lost lots of my posts and i'd be much further along towards my 10K posts and I wouldn't be Number 214.

[Greenguy]

Keep'em coming |shake|

[RedCherry]

Likes,

I'm terrible at posting on boards, I'm usually too busy working or fixing my house. So I really like the fact that this board has a great LL section that I can post up changes to my LL, plus read about others to keep up with what is happening to all the places I submit.

I also like the chit chat, and all the business forums, I can look in a specific area to see what is happening pretty quickly.

I really like the people here. I've met quite a few in person over the years, and it is just a great group.|thumb

Dislikes
I agree about the search, I too have a hard time with that one.

Also the user CP area. It takes me forever to find where I can change my custom title, lol.

I can't really think of anything else, you guys are the greatest. |thumb

[Tommy]

the user name script thingy is getting a bit annoying

[Bill]

I sure everybody already knows this trick, but people have mentioned the difficulty of navigating all the forums...

If you put this link into your GG&J bookmark, everytime you call up the bookmark you get a nice list of all the newest posts in all the forums, with the most recently posted in threads coming up first on the list.

http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/search.php?do=getnew

copy and paste this url into your properties in your bookmark.

sorry if this is already universally known. ;-}

[Torn Rose]

the user name script thingy is getting a bit annoying


Agreed.

[mist]

I like this board because it’s huge collection of adult webmaster knowledge. Time here is never a waste, you always pick up something new or have nice laugh, just like it’s suppose to be. I think you guys does an outstanding job running it.

[SheepGuy]

Hmm..
Pretty much what everyone says, the community is the key. When I have a dumbass question I can generally find the answer here, and I help when I can with the non-tech stuff.
Great place to make deals! Only been here about a month and made a few.
About newbies, I was torn a new arsehole at first, but hey I asked for a review and the site sucked! I learned from it.
And I like Green so much I joined the Party ;)

Negatives, morning comes too early for most of the chit chat|yawn| My ass is barely out of bed then since I usually work until 3 or 4 a.m. If I really need to chat then, I wake up my wife and she usually has a few words for me ;)

Great place!!

[Mr. Blue]

Likes:

-It's more about business less about meaningless threads. It's like the wallstreet journal with a sense of humor. It may turn off some webmasters, but they're usually the ones that spend the most time posting |bullshit| threads.

-No points / rewards for posting other than a buddy jesus at 1k. I think the value of the board comes in the information you get rather than some monetary amount put on a post.

-General sense of community here. People are posting because they want to post and not for some other convoluted reasons.

Dislikes (more like suggestions):

-I'd kind of like to see a tutorial section on the forum. There's so much bad information given out on other boards, it would be great to just have a section on how things should be done. Eventhough there's a noobie section on the board, the information often gets spread out or buried in a few weeks and god help if people actually use the search feature, lol. It would be nice to have tutorials though written by some board members in their area of expertise. Maybe make the threads locked so they don't get cluttered with comments, etc.

It'd just be a resource for newbie webmasters that could easily be refferred to and if they want to learn they can.

-Attached images....just have them open up in the thread :D I know this function can get abused, so maybe you can put a limit on who can use it, say 100+ posts before they get that priviledge. Personally, I just like the pictures opening in the threads rather than a seperate link.

-The mrblue smiley being added to the smilies, lol...yeah, I'm on a quest to get him added everywhere:

[KG Gary]

Most of mine have already been mentioned.

Likes:
- New webmaster friendly. If someone needs help it's quick to come from all angles.
- So much great free information! I sometimes think you should charge for access to this forum and split the proceeds.
- The webmaster resources section/GG stats etc is priceless. I dig something useful out of there a couple of times per week.
- The Radio Show. I wish it was a few hours earlier and a bit longer. The random member competition was cool. Never seen that before.
- No-nonsense straight-talking advice.
- Building business relationships and personal ones.

Dislikes:
- People leaving for strange reasons, personality clashes etc.
- Time zones.
:)

[Ms Naughty]

It's good to see I'm not the only one frustrated by the search function. I know Sparky assured me otherwise but the search form really doesn't do Boolean "AND" searches properly which is why it so often returns a gazillion results.

I do think the board has become a bit cliquey over the past year and that newbies or even non-regular posters may come in for more abuse sometimes than they should. Yes, newbies can ask silly questions and it's nice to have occasional drama but sometimes I think the "friendly" factor has dropped just a little.

I like the idea of some kind of tutorial for new people.

As for what I like - well, there's a lot. The main thing is that business always comes first here, which saves a lot of time. I've found the board very useful in searching for new sponsors as well as great for networking and general amusement.

GGs stats are great.

Ooh, another small complaint just popped into my head - some of the sponsor listings are a bit out of date.

OK... enough for now.

[Greenguy]

Search & Admin: these seem to be 2 recurring "dislikes" aobut the board & I'm not sure we can correct either of them. It's not like this is a custom script - it's the same script that pretty much every board out there is using :D

I don't search too much, but when I do, I haven;t noticed any problems that have not always been there.

As far as the admin goes, I think it's fine as well - maybe I've used it enough to know where most of the stuff is hidden? :)

****

Again, keep'em coming - I think Jim & I will do the entire Radio Show on these topics & see what "dislikes" we can work on correcting |shake|

[eman]

If the site were called Greenguy and shithead I'd still come here.

[Jim]

If the site were called Greenguy and shithead I'd still come here.

Thanks for that, eman :) Really, all of these are good comments. But like Greenie said, we aren't sure what we can do about the board software itself. I rarely use the search function but I did last week searching 2 names using "and". The top thread showed was the one I was looking for. But I will see if there is anything on vbullitin addressing this problem.

[eman]

Thanks for that, eman :) Really, all of these are good comments. But like Greenie said, we aren't sure what we can do about the board software itself. I rarely use the search function but I did last week searching 2 names using "and". The top thread showed was the one I was looking for. But I will see if there is anything on vbullitin addressing this problem.

No offence, I hope. I have a linklist-centric bias and Greenguy is my business model :)

[johnnybg]

Like:
1. Great member base, like no other adult wm board.
2. You can do business, without bs.
3. You can have fun while doing it.
4. Great moderators who keep this place tidy.

Dislike:
1. I spent too much time thinking about what I dislike, so I didn't make another free site. :)

BTW, if you need better search for this site, you can try to Google
"<search term> site:greenguysboard.com"

[nekrom]

Likes:
A) The whole business concept of this place, which is bloody refreshing.

B) Archiving the weekly radio extravaganza, even if it's just two blokes banging on, I still find it humorous. :)

C) The occasional pissing threads, love reading them with my morning coffee.

D) Greenies stat dumps. A fantastic reference point that I can use as a what to market guide with my traffic.

E) The newsletter. Compared to most other bs ones, It's actualy worth reading.

F) No rubbish payed to post setup and a bazzilion sigwhore wankers posting about unlike other boards.

Dislikes:
None really, and that's the honest non-sugar coated truth.

-N

[spookyx]

likes;

honest answers from people I trust
the right amount of humor mixed in.
useless warriors great comments
SEO and Mr Marylou's IRC chat sessions
radio show

dislikes

drama sometimes for no real reason.

|boobies|

[lorsha]

Damn, I found this thread to late. I just read everyones comments. What to add, that has not already been said ...

Likes: The members. Truly nice people here. |bananna|

Dislikes: Drama threads.

[Ms Naughty]

Something I forgot to add:
I like that this board is relatively free of the sexist bullshit you see on other boards. GG&J doesn't assume that every webmaster is male and the guys here (mostly) don't make stupid or "pretendy sexist" comments just to piss the girls off.

Of course, now I've said that you'll all do it. |catfight|

Ooh, that smiley is another good thing.

Oh, and I also like the thing where nobody is posting porn photos because we're all just so bored with porn LOL Even if this thread is useless without pics.

[Greenguy]

Keep'em coming - my hot secretary chick is taking notes |couch|

[Tart]

I hate that the java chat always says
#####Unregistered copy, evaluation only
#####Please ask webmaster to register it
every time i post something in chat :(
Other then that I'm happy!

[Greenguy]

- The Search Engine chat is at an impossible hour for some of us. An archive of that chat would be very nice.
We will see if Bill can start to save a text copy of the chat room once he starts them back up.



- Far too sensitive. Many members are far too easy to offend and too quick to lash out. Sometimes it feels like walking on egg shells, and while this is a small and tight community it can also be a hostile community towards 'outsiders' at times.
I think this is because some things are really obvious to some people & they have a hard time grasping that they might not be as obvious to others (I have this problem)

I know there was a thread where you got bashed a bit :D What was that one? Maybe I can clear it up a bit.



- Too many subforums. My board time is limited, and while I spend most of it on netpond, I have always read GG&J and try to fit in some time here. I like to look at a main forum with heaps of posts in it, not have to click around a whole heap of subforums. Just personal preference though, and honestly I think its not something you could change now.
You do realize that Netpond has 40 forums & sub-forums, right? :D



I can't make the Member's List button on the top menu work. It just takes me back to the main forum page.
We disabled that as it had a lot of info on there as far as who all of the board members are, their emails, IP's etc. I think we took the link out a long time ago, but the board upgrade might have put it back in (even though it's turned off)



I could be wrong (it has happened before #€&/!), but a year ago or two ago there were more new people coming here and staying. Now it feels like the same old crowd and a new head popping in every now and then, but doesn't stay around for too long.
I think a lot of it has to do with the attitude towards new people. Might not be just because they are new, but because they are clueless and someone ends up chewing their head off.
2257 brought everyone out of the woodwork :D I have noticed this as well & some of them confuse the shit out of me. People will register, make a post or 2, not even come close to being bashed & then you never hear from them again :(

I wonder how many people miss the part of the "welcome email" that asks them to post in the "Welcome To The Board" thread, start a thread announcing that they are a new member, it gets merged & they assume it got deleted?
(and no, I'm not going to change doing that, because it's clearly in the welcome email - lol)



the user name script thingy is getting a bit annoying
Oh stop! We don't use it nearly as much as we used to - plus look how popular this thread is because of it :)



-I'd kind of like to see a tutorial section on the forum. There's so much bad information given out on other boards, it would be great to just have a section on how things should be done. Eventhough there's a noobie section on the board, the information often gets spread out or buried in a few weeks and god help if people actually use the search feature, lol. It would be nice to have tutorials though written by some board members in their area of expertise. Maybe make the threads locked so they don't get cluttered with comments, etc.
Give us examples of what you think we should have tutorials on. I've had a tutorial for building free sites in my head for a long time now, but the problem is that it's really fucking long & every time I start to type it up, it seems to get longer :D



-Attached images....just have them open up in the thread :D I know this function can get abused, so maybe you can put a limit on who can use it, say 100+ posts before they get that priviledge. Personally, I just like the pictures opening in the threads rather than a seperate link.
This ain't GFY my friend - it'll be abused (even by people in the Buddy Christ Club) it'd slow down the board, it'd encourage people to get their post counts up, etc. Just click the link :)



Ooh, another small complaint just popped into my head - some of the sponsor listings are a bit out of date.
MrMaryLou is working on a project right now, but once that's done, I will have him go thru them & get things updated (problem is that it's a 2 month task - lol)

[cd34]

search may or may not be fixed.

mentioned in radio show: Adult Term Glossary
http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/showthread.php?t=18900
http://www.fetishphiles.net/adult-webmaster-glossary.shtml

[bluebrit]

Likes:
The people I've met in person and the ones i've met online since becoming a member of this board.

My understanding of this business has been learned from those who have been in it from the beginning and the replies they give to questions asked or topics raised in the various forums. The collective knowledge base on this board is a gold mine if you take the time to read, consider and implement whats being given by them as free advice to everyone. In most other businesses such a knowledge base would cost you a fortune to tap into and to not take into account whats written here, is foolhardy IMO.

Dislikes:
Emmy still makes me get out of bed to do chores after working all night, albeit at 4 in the afternoon ;)

regards to all bluebrit |thumb

[Torn Rose]

"pretendy sexist" comments just to piss the girls off.



LOL....

I'm shocked, I would never do that.... Right ladies? (to all the ones who know me)

[LB]

I think this is because some things are really obvious to some people & they have a hard time grasping that they might not be as obvious to others (I have this problem)

I know there was a thread where you got bashed a bit :D What was that one? Maybe I can clear it up a bit.

Yeah thats a good example of me stepping on toes without realising. Though I hear similar comments from a wide range of people who don't post here, and the word 'sensitive' or 'touchy' is usually used.

You do realize that Netpond has 40 forums & sub-forums, right?

Yeah but I can get almost a total look at np threads by checking out 3 forums ... here there are useful posts all over the place. I suppose is a really good thing, but being used to having most posts in the main forum .. sometimes it seems strange to me that the main forum here could have 1 post and a subforum may have 10 new posts. Probably not a biggie :)

[misseducator]

Like all the great info....

[Mr. Blue]

Give us examples of what you think we should have tutorials on. I've had a tutorial for building free sites in my head for a long time now, but the problem is that it's really fucking long & every time I start to type it up, it seems to get longer :D

You gave a good example there...a good freesite tutorial would be great to help demystify it for those people that don't regularly build freesites and who may be getting funky information from another source.

Gallery building, I'd be tempted to write that one myself, lol, of course I'd get the stamp of approval from a TGP God before I'd post it just to make sure everything is copacetic.

Photoshop tutorials...granted there's tons of them online as is, but there's shortcuts that you learn that makes photoshop a little more approachable and practical for "porn" tasks...i.e. batch processing, watermarking, etc, etc.

It's just I see some amazingly stupid advice given out on forums and usually by people who claim expertise, but have a vested interest in tossing out worthless information.

[swedguy]

We will see if Bill can start to save a text copy of the chat room once he starts them back up.
I would LOVE that :)

I think this is because some things are really obvious to some people & they have a hard time grasping that they might not be as obvious to others (I have this problem)
When I got into mainstream, I was confused as fuck. They were talking about the same shit as in adult, but everything was named differently.
Since I have been in this for some time, I knew where to find info about what they were talking about. Search, find a sticky thread on the boards, FAQ somewhere or just poke around on the boards/resources.
But if I was fresh, I would probably have posted and would've got flamed to pieces.

So how about a sticky (and also add it to the welcome email) with the most common questions? Maybe you have it already (I admit, I haven't looked lately ;) ).

I wonder how many people miss the part of the "welcome email" that asks them to post in the "Welcome To The Board" thread, start a thread announcing that they are a new member, it gets merged & they assume it got deleted?
(and no, I'm not going to change doing that, because it's clearly in the welcome email - lol)
Maybe send a PM to all the newbies that get their welcome thread moved to the real thread?
It's clearly in the welcome email where to post. But sometimes people miss stuff and instead of pissing them off by thinking that their thread got deleted, send them a friendly PM saying that it got moved to the proper place.

[Greenguy]

OH! I completely forgot to mention my stats on the show last night - I have been very lazy as far as doing anything with them for the past few months, but that will end Oct 1st when I'll have another run finished (and I'll get one posted as close to the 1st of the month from there on out)

[Missmew]

This is the best board around if your searching for information:) and the people are very friendly which is a big bonus in this biz:)

and the color green doesn't hurt either..:))

[SirMoby]

STOP USING MY USERNAME!!!

Putting the username in any portion of the thread is a very bad thing. On other boards if I see my username it's because someone is trying to get in touch with me and usually for a good reason. That is not possible here because I see my name in threads and signatures every where so I simply ignore ALL posts with my username in it.

The only reason I responded to this post was that it appeared in the News Letter. There is no way I would have read the complete post title much less the post itself since it had my username in the title.

Unless the thread is about me, DO NOT USE MY USERNAME!!!

Putting my name in your signature?! I won't even comment, just stop doing it.

[Fonz]

But SirMoby, they're not using yours, they're using mine |couch|

[Vivaldi]

Likes:
I’d say easy navigation … cool sub-forum division
Fact that You can find help almost instantly
Fact that I lurk on daily bases because quite simply answers always come faster than me … I blame it on time zones :D

Dislikes:
Got to say LB has a point in his first post … people here do tend to flame to quickly and too harsh (it’s a lurkers point of view) although it can be interesting form time to time :D

[spacemanspiff]

Just got the newsletter:

I tried to find the proper words to get lurkers or people with 1 or 2 posts to let us know, what about GreenguyandJim keeps you lurking and not posting.

My quess, fear of getting flamed. While sometimes the flamage is deserved it's not always easy to tell, especially if you don't read every post. Frequently it's just plain mean spirited. And bashing someone whose command of the English language is lacking seems a little odd to me in a global industry.

These aren't my "dislikes". The board works great for me. Search is a little clunky sometimes but that's not a biggie.

[pcum]

Oh wel I like this board and all the info,
I wish I had more time to read and talk on the boards...
I am just a part time webmaster who make some extra cash
because I need it...

So if I have more money and more time I will be more on this board
I promise ;-)

[spazlabz]

Likes -
I like the way sponsors get treated special here
I do appreciate the difference between the business area and the bullshit area... most times I like to think I am ONLY interested in the all business forum because you know.. us spazes are renowned for our business acumen heh heh But lots of times its nice to see a good joke or just talk about nothing of consequence.

I like that I can brag that I joined this forum four days before it officially launched... makes me feel like someone important even if facts speak otherwise and I have a low post count. ( I remember the great database crash! )

What I don't like (and why my post count is low)
Clique-ish - it is like a knot. There is a core group of people that dominate the board... I guess it happens at every board but it seems pretty difficult to break into that clique around here

The board breakdown, while useful, feels to spread out to me
why can't newbies post business questions in the main forum?
why can't TGP questions be asked and answered in the main forum?
why can't link list questions be asked and answered in the main forum?

my point is those are all business related but probably don't get as many page views and the main forum does. More posts in the main forum in my mind equals more page views which benefits everyone not the least of which is the thread starter. I might be able to add something to a link list question... you know.. as someone who works for a sponsor... but I don't even check those other forums. The main forum is where my eyes go every time with an occasional peek into the chit chat area. Condensing the board and only having a few highly specialized 'other forums' would be something i would like to see.

you can probably afford to give a little room to wiggle when it comes to mentioning programs or services. There is blatant spam and there are people trying to work within the guidelines to bring their program to the attention of your members. I respect that sponsors should be treated special but if i am paranoid about about every sentence I use in a post it is going to take me more time on the board with less results so I don't post... I do not honestly have the time to become friends with everyone and while I am chatting with them on ICQ mention that my site rocks and is under exposed.

By tying my hands or making me nervous about what I write it makes me not want to write. How do I get business done if I cant mention the program I work for by name? if i check my sig between long absences to make sure it still conforms with the rules (I have that page bookmarked no kidding and this is the only site I feel the need to do it with)

I love this board and I never pass up the chance to recommend it to as many people as I can... I think there is a wealth of knowledge here that is unparalleled. But I don't post as much as I could because of the reasons stated above...

thats it, hope that helps :)


spaz

[Jim]

Just got the newsletter:



My quess, fear of getting flamed. While sometimes the flamage is deserved it's not always easy to tell, especially if you don't read every post. Frequently it's just plain mean spirited. And bashing someone whose command of the English language is lacking seems a little odd to me in a global industry.

These aren't my "dislikes". The board works great for me. Search is a little clunky sometimes but that's not a biggie.

I just sent an email to people that have signed up, posted a few times and then never posted again. This is a flame proof thread :) We really are doing things to make changes. And Sparky is hard at work on a couple of board projects that will help a lot of things.

[Greenguy]

...And bashing someone whose command of the English language is lacking seems a little odd to me in a global industry...
I look at it this way - I don't post on any non-english speaking boards & I do not market my sites to any non-english speaking surfers. There are some (Fonz & Mateusz come to mind) that have a terrific grasp of the English language & I have no problem with them. But, like with my sites, I don't see how using broken English will make you any money. I'm sure there are boards out there in many different languages where non-english speaking webmasters can get help & if not, then there's a great business for someone other than Jim & I to capitalize on.

...The board breakdown, while useful, feels to spread out to me
why can't newbies post business questions in the main forum?
why can't TGP questions be asked and answered in the main forum?
why can't link list questions be asked and answered in the main forum?

my point is those are all business related but probably don't get as many page views and the main forum does. More posts in the main forum in my mind equals more page views which benefits everyone not the least of which is the thread starter. I might be able to add something to a link list question... you know.. as someone who works for a sponsor... but I don't even check those other forums. The main forum is where my eyes go every time with an occasional peek into the chit chat area. Condensing the board and only having a few highly specialized 'other forums' would be something i would like to see...
If you put the Link List forum in here with the general Business stuff, you've just doubled the total posts in this forum. If you put the other 2 in here as well, you've now got 2.5 times the number of posts in here.

The thinking behind it is to make things easier on those that don't want to read thru all the link list threads, that might be interested in just general stuff & TGP's. Everything on here is business except the chit chat area - that'd be a big fucking forum :D

If you think you can add to other threads, just browse thru the other forums (which you'd be doing anyway if they were in this forum)

I hope that makes sense :)


you can probably afford to give a little room to wiggle when it comes to mentioning programs or services. There is blatant spam and there are people trying to work within the guidelines to bring their program to the attention of your members. I respect that sponsors should be treated special but if i am paranoid about about every sentence I use in a post it is going to take me more time on the board with less results so I don't post... I do not honestly have the time to become friends with everyone and while I am chatting with them on ICQ mention that my site rocks and is under exposed.

By tying my hands or making me nervous about what I write it makes me not want to write. How do I get business done if I cant mention the program I work for by name? if i check my sig between long absences to make sure it still conforms with the rules (I have that page bookmarked no kidding and this is the only site I feel the need to do it with)
There has to be a line, because if there isn't one, then this board would be spammed to death. The line is that board sponsors can post their announcements here in the main forum & everyone else has to post them in the Products & Services area. Jim & I have occasionally moved posts from Prods & Serv to this forum because it's a close friend of ours or a big supporter of the board or we think the topic needs a little more attention, but otherwise, it's a line that I think we should leave in place.

This might be a bit harsh, but it's not the job of this board to assist anyone other than our sponsors as far as promoting their services. I'm not saying that you can't go & read the I'm Looking For forum, where we encourage people to basically spam when they reply to a thread, but unsolicited advice or announcements come off as spam.

As far as the sig files, nothing's really changed in the last few years - 80 characters with no images, 40 characters with 1 image (max size of 120x60) No bold, no colors, no large fonts - very plain & very simple as to not distract from the topics of the threads.

[Greenguy]

Too Many Forums?

One idea that does come to mind is to use the "new posts (http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/search.php?do=getnew)" link that at the top of every page here on the board - this will give you EVERYTHING that the board has to offer :)

[D-Rock]

Well it's true I havent posted here in a while. So I'm going to try & get back to it.

I like the helpful boardmembers and of course Administrators.|thumb

I dont like the nasty comments, and negativity.

I know it's not much, sorry.|huh

Lates,
D

[Jim]

This might be a bit harsh, but it's not the job of this board to assist anyone other than our sponsors as far as promoting their services. I'm not saying that you can't go & read the I'm Looking For forum, where we encourage people to basically spam when they reply to a thread, but unsolicited advice or announcements come off as spam.


I kind of have a different feeling towards the board but not really that different. I think it is a place for everyone to promote their programs or services. But, it has to be done in the right place. And, we do give plenty of places for that. If you are a non-sponsor, we will still list your press releases and/or news in the news section and in the newsletter. As a non-sponsor, you also have the Products and/or Services forum to use.

I agree that the main forum is a place for sponsors only. And, we have to protect that for people that pay us money to promote their program.

So, if you don't want to pay for advertising, you can always post in the Products and/or Services forum. If you want more exposure, I am always willing to offer different advertising packages to fit most budgets.

[spazlabz]

There has to be a line, because if there isn't one, then this board would be spammed to death. The line is that board sponsors can post their announcements here in the main forum & everyone else has to post them in the Products & Services area. Jim & I have occasionally moved posts from Prods & Serv to this forum because it's a close friend of ours or a big supporter of the board or we think the topic needs a little more attention, but otherwise, it's a line that I think we should leave in place.

This might be a bit harsh, but it's not the job of this board to assist anyone other than our sponsors as far as promoting their services. I'm not saying that you can't go & read the I'm Looking For forum, where we encourage people to basically spam when they reply to a thread, but unsolicited advice or announcements come off as spam.



That about sums it up. I am concerned from time to time that mentioning who I work for or the things we offer even when replying to a thread where it is appropriate will come off as spam and be unceremoniously axed.
But my job is to draw attention to the program I represent, its business and I have been responsible for buying advertising here in the past so trust me when i say I respect that sponsors get special treatment. The chances are very high I will be buying ad space here in the future for this new company. But whats the ROI on it going to be when I feel stifled to communicate at any time other then when my banners are running? How effective is my communication for the month or three when my banner is running if no one has gotten the chance to know me (I'm a pretty good guy and a very straight shooter if i do say so myself... i have to, no one else here really knows me)

I am not asking or expecting anyone from this board to assist me in anything, unless I ask a question in a thread. I don't expect to see my program advertised in the sigs of mods around here unless I pay for it. But, I cant effectively do any business here, so what is the point of posting. I know GG&J needs me posting about as much as I need a yacht (I live in KY) but you asked.. so I'm telling you. Blatant spam for the sake of blatant spam is both irritating as well as ineffective... personally I say leave the spam and the comments that follow because it does more damage to the spammer then deleting it LOL ok I joke, but seriously I get intimidated to post here much more then at G*Y where I can pretty much tell someone to 'G*Y' or on *prano because things are...ummm.. different at *prano. Its the only board this non-board whore has managed to get 1000 posts at.... and I really want a buddy christ!

spaz

[Madame0120]

Thank you for the note to remind me I haven't visited in a very long time.
|waves|

There's only so many hours in a day, but I'll be more active - like the good board whore I am.

|flowers|

[spazlabz]

I kind of have a different feeling towards the board but not really that different. I think it is a place for everyone to promote their programs or services. But, it has to be done in the right place. And, we do give plenty of places for that. If you are a non-sponsor, we will still list your press releases and/or news in the news section and in the newsletter. As a non-sponsor, you also have the Products and/or Services forum to use.

I agree that the main forum is a place for sponsors only. And, we have to protect that for people that pay us money to promote their program.

So, if you don't want to pay for advertising, you can always post in the Products and/or Services forum. If you want more exposure, I am always willing to offer different advertising packages to fit most budgets.
Oh hell yeah Jim, I've had my press released posted both in the main forum as a sponsor and in the announcements forum as a non-sponsor. I use them both depending on what the situation is with me at the time... and a little plug here for you... you're about the easiest person I have ever had dealings with in all my years in the biz and you make advertising here very painless.

I guess I am licking my wounds a bit here because my skin is thin (HELLO nickname = spaz)
and because sometimes I am just dying to jump in a thread and mention how much better my program is then one that may be being talked about LOL I am a true believer in anything I am involved with and think its always better for an affiliate to KNOW about what I am working on LOL

I really need to address that issue within myself :D


spaz

[CrazySy]

Likes:

- I really like the sub-forums idea as I can go directly where I need to go if I am looking for specific information/news. Link Lists, TGPs, Blogs or whatever else that might be.

- Spam free, as I hate drive by spammers or spammers in general and this board does an awesome job in dealing with that problem.

- Sig size control, I hate big banners and huge size text in the sig and I am glad we don't have to deal with that in here :)

- Good/experienced group of people

- UW's posts :D

- MML's avatar |mml|

This is the only board I visit daily, might not post much but read and learn and I thank GG&Jim for that.

No dislikes here but I do agree with the search issue as it returns some funky results from time to time |loony|

[Reality Wife]

I like that the board is neatly divided into specific forums, which saves time searching for what you might want, but that might also leave some webmasters overwhelmed. I totally agree with the "New Post" idea. |thumb I actually find the username script amusing but also can understand how it might turn off others. I think the board has a much cleaner look than all other boards, if you know what I mean. I actually come here quite often to read threads but I don't post often for many reasons. Either I have nothing to add even though I found the thread interesting, or I dont want to get blasted by some guy who thinks he is board royalty just because he has a million posts(FYI - this has not happened on this particular board), or maybe I started to write what I thought was a well thought out post, only to preview it and realize I just wasted 10 minutes writing jiberish, or just maybe I forgot my user pass and dont feel like walking to the office to find the email it resides in(just lazy).
I do appreciate the fact that Greenguy went to the trouble to email us and ask for our input on his great board. Its quite clear that he cares about his board and I appreciate that. I will make a conscious effort to post here much more often.
This board rocks! |bow| @ Green Guy

[T Pat]

Thank you for the note to remind me I haven't visited in a very long time.
|waves|

There's only so many hours in a day, but I'll be more active - like the good board whore I am.

|flowers|

|waves| Hi Madame great seeing you posting in my neck of the woods
How in the hell are you and Roy doing? Tell that kinky basterd I said hi.
Vivian will be thrilled when I tell her I gave you a shout out.
kisses|roses|

[awgPablo]

RE: why some new members don't post more:
My quess, fear of getting flamed. While sometimes the flamage is deserved it's not always easy to tell, especially if you don't read every post. Frequently it's just plain mean spirited.
I just sent an email to people that have signed up, posted a few times and then never posted again. This is a flame proof thread :) We really are doing things to make changes. And Sparky is hard at work on a couple of board projects that will help a lot of things.

I'll raise my hand as one of the new members who posted (once?) and didn't post again... for me, it has nothing to do with this board at all. I have had several absolutely fantastic experiences so far and I have basically stopped visiting anywhere else because of the general "vibe" here.

I do notice some gruff posts and I see what some people are saying about the treatment of newbies, but so far, what I've seen doesn't generally hold a dim candle to the stadium lighting that is the rudeness of other places I've been!! For me, the overwhelming sense of "goodness" here (that sounded weird) made me quickly comfortable and has helped me all but delete the bookmarks to other places.

Now, why am I not posting... well, I'm not a heavy poster anyway, mostly since I am far more in the mode of listening than talking in this industry. There is an immense amount of info here and I hate to be the guy posting questions that have already been answered. However, I really think I got the desire to post on adult webmaster forums beaten out of me by posting on other boards and ultimately getting obliterated by massive jerks. Not tiny jerks... these jerks were massive.

I might have considered myself to be whining, had I not settled down and come back to post again later only to be smacked down again... rinse, repeat. Now, admittedly, the most flaming done on adult boards seems to be against anyone they think is spamming or doing something inappropriately self-serving. The fact is, I think it's often quite difficult to prove you're honest when you have a new board account. It takes a while to get accepted in the community.

So... I think I'm just gun shy to some extent. It's gotten me to be even less eager to post than I already was... which means I went from lurker to Super Lurk Master.


I really like this place.
- I like all the subforums just as they are, since I can drill right down and get at exactly what I want right away.
- I think the wealth of information here is incredible.
- There are vastly more friendly folks than gruff buttheads... and even many people who don't just run around being nicey-nice are still very helpful, even if it's more of a "tough love" thing.


...sorry, that got a little long.

Thanks for inviting us to post, Jim. :)

[ponygirl]

I just sent an email to people that have signed up, posted a few times and then never posted again. This is a flame proof thread :)
what a great idea that was Jim - it's nice to see some interesting people coming out from the shadows, even just to know that they're here & reading regularly :)

[993TT]

Can you add the feature where you mouseover the thread and it gives you the first few sentences of the post?

[Greenguy]

(mental note to start after spazlabz's 2nd reply since I have to run to the dentist)

spazlabz - can you give me an example of a post where you didn't reply for fear of having the |spam| button come up? If not, just shoot me a message from the next time you see one :)

[spazlabz]

(mental note to start after spazlabz's 2nd reply since I have to run to the dentist)

spazlabz - can you give me an example of a post where you didn't reply for fear of having the |spam| button come up? If not, just shoot me a message from the next time you see one :)

predictably i cannot, nor does the idea of whining to either you or Jim when I feel squeamish about posting or how to word a reply. Even with the invite from you, which i appreciate, I would feel it would be less then professional for me to take it to you two gentlemen.

what is more likely to happen is i either don't post out of the respect I have for this board or I post and if it gets moved/edited/deleted i need to just take it as a learning experience. Because bringing it to your attention then puts you in the unfavorable position of defending yours or your mods descision/actions.

For the record, my opinion of this board has always been and will always be extremely favorable. I think that for link list especially this is the place to be seen and for TGPs also but to a much lesser extent. I have a lot of respect for the people that own and run this board and would love to meet them all at a show if i ever make it to one (midwest webmaster gathering?? come ON! make it happen LOL)

It is my respect for these same people and concerns that I don't truly understand the line of where honest feedback and spam meet that prevents me from being much more active on this board. Having been involved with smaller companies in the past and not being able to afford 'branding' has prevented me from advertising here more.


spaz

[Torn Rose]

Unless the thread is about me, DO NOT USE MY USERNAME!!!



Agreed 100%... I also ignore it 99.9% of the time since I see it so much.

[Greenguy]

For all you USERNAME haters

Have you searched to see how many times your names are actually in the thread titles?

Tommy might have a legit complaint, because his name is in 99 thread titles. Torn has 12 & SirMoby has 3 (all of which were birthday threads - lol)

We don't use it that much & when we do, it's for threads like this. 3 people have this in their sigs - Jim, Sparky & myself. It's been used a grand total of 11 times in the last year:
Hey ~~username~~: What Do You Like and/or Dislike About This Board?
~~username~~, How long have you been working online?
Hey ~~username~~ - what's this "rage" thing?
Hey ~~username~~! Pussy Cash's $100,000 H-Bomb Contest
Greenguy Stats Run - What Would You Like To See, ~~username~~?
Hey ~~username~~! The 9th Random Member Contest is underway!
Hey ~~username~~! 9th Random Logged In Member Contest....
Hey ~~username~~ Test Our Auto Fansign Generator Please
Hey ~~username~~! The 8th Random Member Contest is underway!
Hey ~~username~~! 8th Random Logged In Member Contest....
Just a JAVES Reminder, ~~username~~

3 sponsor threads, 4 contests, once by Jim for Javes, once by me for my stats, the 1st thread this was in & this thread.

AND we are the only 3 that can use it - so I'll make sure that if any of the 3 of us wish to contact you via a thread on the board, we'll address you as TommyBookmark, T0rn & Sir-Moby :D

Come on - this isn't that big of an issue.

********

spazlabz - just do me one favor - the next time you see a thread that you are squeamish about posting to, run it past me & I'll do my best to see your side, explain our side & we'll go from there |shake|

[Torn Rose]

What are the total post counts to those threads? And didn't the "Hey Torn - what's this "rage" thing?" thread go on and on and on for MONTHS?

You might only use it 20 times or whatever, but when the threads never die and when we see them in sigs the joke gets played to death.

Maybe after a day or two with no post the threads with it in the title get edited?

[spazlabz]

spazlabz - just do me one favor - the next time you see a thread that you are squeamish about posting to, run it past me & I'll do my best to see your side, explain our side & we'll go from there |shake|
|shake| deal GG |thumb


spaz

[Greenguy]

What are the total post counts to those threads? And didn't the "Hey Torn - what's this "rage" thing?" thread go on and on and on for MONTHS?

You might only use it 20 times or whatever, but when the threads never die and when we see them in sigs the joke gets played to death.

Maybe after a day or two with no post the threads with it in the title get edited?
The post counts of those 11 threads are HUGE compared to other threads, which is why we do it :)

The 3 sponsor threads that it's in were, oddly enough, not solicited by the sponsors - those were my hair-brained ideas & they were done as soon as I saw the threads (so it wasn't something that was done days after the thread was created to gain additional exposure)

And let me remind everyone that the Rage Cash thread was a disaster because they delayed the opening of the program, which meant that thread was around 6-8 weeks before the program launched (and that's the reason you haven't see one since)

I did just realize that I contradicted myself when I said that only 3 of us could use it, because we can insert it into other people's threads - so I think that we (meaning me) will stop doing that as to not confuse people.

[sleeves]

I've been reading this board for a long time. I like that its a webmaster board and not a spam fest. I also like that the people on this board seem for the most part to be dialed in and know what they're doing unlike 99% of the other boards out there.

[Worldnet]

This board is cool, and has more business posts than the garbage posts on some boards. I really need to visit it more often.

[Jeremy]

Likes:

- That Green fella (although his mrs is much nicer).

- Board Categorisation. Makes it nice and easy to browse through topics of interest. Although it can occasionally lead to missing other threads. Maybe big / important threads could be "copied" so they're live on other parts of the board as well, but they're still just one thread? (I think WMW can do this, dunno if this version of VB can).

- Hey [Username] type threads. They're an innovative way of getting attention and personally, the responses to some of them are as funny as the "I'm just a sexy girl" thread of old on another board.

Dislikes:

- Cliques, herd mentality & mimicking the Board Leader's attitudes with magnified zealotry. This goes on pretty much at all boards all over the web unfortunately and I don't believe it's been started or encouraged by GG or Jim in any way. I've never liked gangs, so it tends to make me more of a lurker.

[adairk]

No Dislikes, but the sites that people own here are out of my league!
I just own a few webcam sites and don't have the content you people seem to be looking for and the contacts I had made to site owners had been ignored si I felt I was just wasting everyones time including my own here.
All the best,
Ken Adair

[matt]

I like the way the forums are divided. It's good not having to peruse all threads to find ones on the topics I'm interested in.

And there's some really good posts here, many of which are on topics that don't seem to appear on other boards I read.

The search is ok, not great, but I guess that's an issue with vB.

I really dislike the 'herd mentality' as Jeremy put it. And a lot of people seem set in their ways / down on new ideas & doing things differently. I commend GG for making changes to his LL rules cause it's good to try a different format & freshen things up for both him and submitters. But on the other hand being down on people that want to list a few galleries or whatever else on their linklists is pretty rough. Copying and / or doing things exactly the same way as everyone else is not the way, IMHO, to make money in business.

[Maj. Stress]

If it has not been mentioned yet, I'd like to have archives for OTB just like the radio show. I have a feeling I missed a good one last week.

It would also be nice to see if anyone has commented on recent threads that I have posted in. Some days I have a short memory and this board can move pretty fast at times.

Other than that, this board is a great source of information and sometimes amusement. (That UW character can be pretty funny at times.) :D

[ponygirl]

It would also be nice to see if anyone has commented on recent threads that I have posted in. Some days I have a short memory and this board can move pretty fast at times.

If you go into your user panel under Messaging & Notification there's one called Default Thread Subscription Mode and you can change the default to get an email when someone replies to a thread you've posted in. Is that what you mean?

[Maj. Stress]

Hi Ponygirl,
Thanks for that info. I never looked into that before. I'll have to play with it some more and see if I can just select certain threads that interest me. It would be a waste of time and resouces to receive email notifications on just general chit chat, etc. I was thinking more along the lines of just checking a box in a thread to let me know when it is updated.

[Ms Naughty]

Hey, I think I'll second that suggestion about mousing over a thread to get the first sentence. I don't know if the board software can do that but I think it might save time.

[cd34]

I was thinking more along the lines of just checking a box in a thread to let me know when it is updated.

Up top, Thread Tools, Subscribe Thread.

[Maj. Stress]

Up top, Thread Tools, Subscribe Thread.
Thanks Sparky and Ponygirl. I now have a new toy to play with that will save some time. :)

[MrYum]

Up top, Thread Tools, Subscribe Thread.
Learn something new everyday...thanks Sparky |thumb

And thanks Major Stress for even asking about that...definitely should be a time saver |thumb

[dos]

have well spoken:)

[pcum]

The greatest thing on this board is everyday you find something new or different you can use and stay in this business

what I like to see in the future is some kind of projects we can do together get for example more traffic

[Greenguy]

Hey, I think I'll second that suggestion about mousing over a thread to get the first sentence. I don't know if the board software can do that but I think it might save time.

That option really annoys me & I think it was turned off for a reason other than my annoyance :D

Maybe Sparky can see if there's a way to add it as an option in the User CP?

[rokanrol]

I think, then I post ;)

[Neveena]

i like this, because is full, everything you need is here! every respons on question...i get without asking :P

[Lisa]

I wasn't going to say anything...but then I figured if I don't then you'll never know eh?

The ONLY thing I dislike about this board is the sometimes pedantic moving of posts to other forums. A while ago I posted a thread in the main forum looking for a particular type of content. I posted it there because I wasn't just looking for content providers to come out of the woodwork and spam me, I was also looking for recommendations from people I trust.

Sadly it was moved to the 'I'm looking for...' forum. Appropriate? Probably. Useful? Not at all. Not only did I not get even a reply from a spamming content provider, but considering that most people don't read that forum unless they have something to offer (ie. sell) or are extremely bored, I ended up with no answers at all.

I find it difficult to believe that not one member of this board knew where I could get what I was looking for...but those that most likely could, never saw me ask the question before it got moved.

To me, that devalues the enormous business knowledge available on this board. It's there...I want to be able to take advantage of it damnit! :)

[coaquest]

As Mr Yum ,said: that you have opened this thread spekas volumes about your integerty! (that's our accent, not a typo)

WE (married monogamous couple) are very glad to have found your board and read avidly! We have a concept we are working on, and as a consequence, we have been "lurkers" here up to now.

Likes:

Real webmasters discussing real mechanics / operations / situations.

Real and honest opinions, answers, and suggestions...not trumped up BS *free advertiseing* crap.

Dislikes:

We don't really DIS-like anything about the board. We are sometimes overwhelmed by the shear wealth of information available...but that is also something we like about this board...and your whole GG&J idiom altogether. WE don't hink you should try to pander to a narrow demographic within this already specific genre of Web-Folk. WE think that it is up to all of us on our own to disseminate.

Sometimes there are cat-fights on the board...but they are more entertaining than bothersome, especially when it is obvious that the involved parties are completely missing one anothers' points/ arguments: but that is a critique of but a few threads...not a statement of how you run the board, so we hope THAT element is just something you accept as part of human nature.

Speaking for ourselves; we came here in search of knowledge, and so far we are able to find answers enough to our questions by searching the board and following through links you provide. We hate to be the 3,458 th person to ask a question, so we always put some effort into finding our answer before we get *lazy* and ask for ourselves...as a result, we have learned more than we thought we wanted to know, and are better for it!

Note: we had to re-register in order to post this (not a problem). WE are completely happy (so far) with the operation here...but give us time and maybe we too can develop some attitude for someone to rip apart - and we can ALL have a good luagh at THAT!

Thanks for breaking the Ice for us with this thread!

[Lemmy]

Likes:
- The separation of bull and business. Whatever you do don't merge any of the forums. IMO places like GFY are completely worthless for anything but spamming.
- The actual usefulness of business related posts, lotsa good stuff here for someone wanting to learn.
- The username thingy, makes me feel loved. :D

Dislikes:
- I agree with those who have said this can sometimes be a harsh environment for newbies. On the other side of that coin is the amazing fact that so many people who in reality are in competition with each other get along so well and help each other out.

[Greenguy]

...The ONLY thing I dislike about this board is the sometimes pedantic moving of posts to other forums...That really is a "better safe than sorry" policy, because if those threads were allowed out here, there'd be more of them & they'd be very full of spam.

I know I read that forum everyday & if I have something to contribute, I do - and from the other people that do post there from time to time, I think there are a lot of bigger board members reading that forum as well.

...- I agree with those who have said this can sometimes be a harsh environment for newbies. On the other side of that coin is the amazing fact that so many people who in reality are in competition with each other get along so well and help each other out.
When Jim & I opened this board, one of the points we wanted to get across was that we'd never sugar coat anything, so we sometimes come across as know-it-all assholes :D

But we're trying to get better (especially me) Look at the thread that Simon form IA Cash posted about what to start up (TGP, Link List, etc) 2 weeks ago I'd have bashed him senseless :D But I think that I was helpful while I also got the point across that you do actually have to work to make decent money :)

[stuveltje]

what i like about this board:
-i like i still see the same persons here who i met at ans board when i started this bizz, the newbies i have met ...most are gone. so seeing the good old persons around gives me a bit a home ( oh yeah i probably talking bullshit again, but then me not english hehehe)
- the amound of new friends i made here
- the fact you realy can post what you think here, ofcourse if you start to flame people you should also post the reason why.
-the fact i talk bad english and still i am accepted on this board ( think of it, when i post on dutch boards i put also english words in it, so i am also bad with dutch writing:D)
- the laughs
- the help
- the seperate forums
what i dislike:
ahummm this..... and ahummm that........again this:D i realy dont know what i dont like|huh oh yep, tell me more about the secret forum:D naa its a great place:)

[eman]

I like:
The sponsor page - I'm working my way through it

Greenguy

Jim

The Radio Show - although I wish I could comfortably listen to it live in the UK

I dislike:
English speakers who criticise foreigners for their poor grasp of English but who then go on to misuse "then" when they mean "than", "alot" when they mean "a lot". "there" when they mean "their" etc

[Jim]

Alot is a good one for me too. I am surprised by how many people don't know it's really 2 words :)

[Greenguy]

I have learned that that it's a lot & not alot, that then refers to time & their is personal :D

[cockhungryhoes]

I lissened to the show about likes and dislikes
There was some talk about new members being bashed. I still would consider myself new, and I will say I have been bashed a little. I look at it like this. This is a small community here. If you want to be a part you have to take some bashing. Its normal. As far as the online porn community goes there are some big players here. If you belong and are worth while of being here you have to prove yourself a little. Its just how this and most businesses are.
My likes
I like the advise I get. Sometimes my questions are Noobie questions, or some would say "stupid question" but I am a Noobie. I might get bashed a little, but I get tons of help from everyone. I belong to alot of boards, I signed up for all of them I could find. I like it here best. I dont log on to any of the others anymore. There is substance here that is like no other. The other boards seem like there full of spam, and just people looking to scam. I can honestly say this board helps me stay in the business. You guys rock.

[stuveltje]

I lissened to the show about likes and dislikes
There was some talk about new members being bashed. I still would consider myself new, and I will say I have been bashed a little. I look at it like this. This is a small community here. If you want to be a part you have to take some bashing. Its normal. As far as the online porn community goes there are some big players here. If you belong and are worth while of being here you have to prove yourself a little. Its just how this and most businesses are.
My likes
I like the advise I get. Sometimes my questions are Noobie questions, or some would say "stupid question" but I am a Noobie. I might get bashed a little, but I get tons of help from everyone. I belong to alot of boards, I signed up for all of them I could find. I like it here best. I dont log on to any of the others anymore. There is substance here that is like no other. The other boards seem like there full of spam, and just people looking to scam. I can honestly say this board helps me stay in the business. You guys rock.i think like this, not one question is stupid, newbie or oldie, after almost 6 years i still have stupid questions, but you know what, i dont care if someone find it stupid, i just will ask my question, there is always someone around who is willing to answer you.mmm there was a saying, i dont know what anymore....heay i am getting old also...it was something like...its stupid to not ask ....no no it wasnt that, it was different.....oh never mind to late for me here:D

[Chop Smith]

From the Newbie Forum
The Only Stupid Question is the Question Not Asked

[Kenny B!]

But we're trying to get better (especially me) Look at the thread that Simon form IA Cash posted about what to start up (TGP, Link List, etc) 2 weeks ago I'd have bashed him senseless :D But I think that I was helpful while I also got the point across that you do actually have to work to make decent money :)

No need to bash him senseless with words, after reading his post I got him right in the back of the head with my stapler.

[stuveltje]

The Only Stupid Question is the Question Not Asked yeahhhhhhhhh that was the thing, thanks for helping an old lady out:)))) grin stu<---- choking from laughter:D

[Greenguy]

From the Newbie ForumJim wouldn't let me use mine, which was "There's not such thing as a stupid question...just stupid people"

No need to bash him senseless with words, after reading his post I got him right in the back of the head with my stapler.I'd have hit him with a cow-bell, but that'll work :)
(ps - I do like my legit suggestion - lol)

[MrYum]

No need to bash him senseless with words, after reading his post I got him right in the back of the head with my stapler.
Now, that's funny |haha

[Jeka]

I'm missing the "would you hit it" threads with lots of pussy :D

lol joke

[coaquest]

I dislike:
English speakers who criticise foreigners for their poor grasp of English but who then go on to misuse "then" when they mean "than", "alot" when they mean "a lot". "there" when they mean "their" etc


Amen, eman!

Though that affront is balanced by the thoughtful suggestions eventually offered to non-native speakers of the tongue...another "LIKE" for us with regard to this board.

(We will stay off the grammar soap box as best we can!)

[eman]

Something I should have said earlier ..

I come here every day because I consider it to be worth my while.

I respect Greenguy and Jim, and a good number of the people who post here.

This is my number one resource.

<edit>misspelt Greenguy (the shame!!)<>

[DaveE]

Jim & I need to pat ourselves on the back as well as kick each other in the shins :)

So what do you like and/or dislike about this board?

Give us a list of each.

Don't worry if you dislike something that's you assume is a hard & steady rule of the board - we're looking for honest opinions.

I have only spent a few hours reading and looking around so far but I can give you my early impressions which I think are also important. I know I have a lot more to read.

You GG seem too fair, and thats great :) I don't know how you keep such a level head. It's obvious to me and you I'm sure that some people post things here with a hidden agenda. But you allow them to play stupid and give them the benefit of the doubt.

You Jim are just a friendly bear hehehe but when I read on I may find another side of you.

small negative for me was your hidden hello thread. But I realise that you have to organize your page to try and keep it clean so no biggy.

I can't link to your for several reasons like I have a sex counter and I think my site is free but not in your vision of what a free site should be.

As far as I have been able to summise so far, link sites have evolved to become super tgps and free sites have evolved to become super galleries. All nice and efficient. I have a lot to learn about hub control and free site infrastructure but I think I have the general idea now.

I am working full time on my site and hope to be able to form a good symbionic relationship with a few top boards. yours bb and gfy you are all so different but have the same goals. I hope I fit in here because even though my site does not fit into your current rules I have the same phylosophy as far as honesty and quality the rabbit and the tortoise, common sense, ect.

Generally the layout is great and so far the people seem very friendly and some what generous. I look forward to meeting the people in your community and learning from the millions of hours of experience that are housed here.

No hidden agenda just my honest opinion|loony|

good luck with your present future ideas GG & Jim

[Greenguy]

...small negative for me was your hidden hello thread. But I realise that you have to organize your page to try and keep it clean so no biggy...
Well, it's not that hidden :) It's stuck on top of the Chit Chat forum & when you signed up, you were sent an email with a link to the current month's thread. So we do try to let everyone know where it is :)

...I can't link to your for several reasons like I have a sex counter and I think my site is free but not in your vision of what a free site should be.

As far as I have been able to summise so far, link sites have evolved to become super tgps and free sites have evolved to become super galleries. All nice and efficient. I have a lot to learn about hub control and free site infrastructure but I think I have the general idea now...Those would be comments for a thread that was titled "What I Dislike About Link Lists" :D

[zack2004]

You Jim are just a friendly bear
I'm shocked! I didn't think Jim was into Liza Minnelli.

[bartjes]

Hey, I think I'll second that suggestion about mousing over a thread to get the first sentence. I don't know if the board software can do that but I think it might save time.

I second that too, I think it's a real time saver, since sometimes thread titles don't reflect the thread contents very well.

Other than that I have no real suggestions. Although sometimes answers from established people to newcomers can be a bit harsh like some people mentioned before, I think that also actually is one of the board's best qualities. I think it's better to have someone tell you the raw honest truth than kissing your ass and let you continue fucking up. That and the number of participants is what I like best here...

[Greenguy]

I've said it before, but Keep'em Coming!

[DaveE]

Well, it's not that hidden :) It's stuck on top of the Chit Chat forum & when you signed up, you were sent an email with a link to the current month's thread. So we do try to let everyone know where it is :)

Your right of course, sorry about that. I never had a problem finding it. What I was trying to say is that not many members seem to go inside and say hello. The ratios of hello's verses users seems low. but it's not that important anyway |bananna|




Those would be comments for a thread that was titled "What I Dislike About Link Lists" :D

I was not trying to say I disliked anything here, just trying to figure things out really and where I stand in the free site world. Your free system is great and I want to to make a hub surrounded by 100 free domains all GG & Jim Compliant |bow|
Sounds like a great new project. Each could be a different niche. Are there 100 niches? must be close.

To sum up I am in 100% agreement with your free site model. Thanks for all your development and support.

[zack2004]

I've been reading (lurking) on this board and many others for many years. This board has real porn webmasters (GG, Javes (Jim), Cleo, Danger Dave, Tommy, Jay .............etc) that are willing to share what they know.
Yes, you might get FLAMMED but if you're not really an asshole and have thicker skin than then an octogenarian you'll hang in here and learn something.
If you can't take a little heat for what you learn (radio show, MML on the Bench, Etc), then move on!
This is the best adult webmaster board I have seen and will always read it even if I were banned. |thumb

[Chop Smith]

Fact is we have the best adult community on the internet.

Most of the dislikes are related to technical issues associated with a canned script and just plain old human nature. We are lucky to have Sparky to address the technical issues. but we will have to live with the harsh comments, rants and occasional drama as it is difficult to moderated life.

I would like to see the moderators get active again. Seems to me that in the beginning, each forum had a moderator that knew their shit. When one of the 'know it all posters' gave bad advice or info, you could depend on a 'bull shit' or 'I don't agree' reply from the forum moderator. (Damn, I miss Danger Dave). A person can take harness as long as he knows he is getting correct feed back.

Good morning, Jim, and happy birthday to the world. I remember the time when you shared your knowledge and business opinions. |couch|

[Jim]

Good morning, Jim, and happy birthday to the world. I remember the time when you shared your knowledge and business opinions. |couch|

I know Chop...and to tell you the truth, this summer has been very busy for me. I told Sparky a few days ago that I have been spending way too much time doing something for the board every day that used to be easy :) And now that summer is over, it is getting easy again. So, you can count on me pissing and moaning about the injustices in our business. And, as you say, sharing everything I know with everyone. :)

[dareutwo]

Likes - the community. I've moved twice in 8 years, but to me, it doesn't really matter where the hell I move. It's like a family right here.
New Posts - a real time saver
Email Alerts - a reviewers life saver
The no BS help - I still don't have a clue sometimes either (well ok, most of the time)

Dislikes - I really don't have any.
In the real world your boss reprimands you. So getting flamed a bit shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone. GG and I don't always agree on certain topics, but we leave it at that, we agree to disagree and move on.
Tuesday night radio show - I'm normally at some sports thing on Tuesday nights. Wed works good though :)

[Emerald]

I do have one suggestion - the top of the message board screen has this line of clickable links "User CP FAQ Calendar New Posts Search Quick Links Log Out"

I would love to also see that same line at the bottom of the page... ! always have to scroll to the top after I reply or finish reading the posts... so much simplier to click on the link to "new posts" or search without have to scroll (ok I guess im a lazy biatch)|roses|

[juicylinks]

Ok i am here!!!!!!!!! I have been coping with some withdrawal's from Paxil lately and been out of it...

[juicylinks]

Likes:

-No trolls here looking pick fights over nonsenese
-More mature people here looking to do biz and exchange knowledge.
-No asshats here, I can post and not have a anonymous troll trying to start nonsense


Dislikes

- I will get back to this , i am gonna browse around and report back

[juicylinks]

hehehehe you guys used the VB thingy on this post hehehe i like

[sspproductions]

Hi

I am glad I have found this board as the other ones I have looked at are just unhelpful loads of idiots without a clue. Here it seems everyone is a pro which is great because I am in the biz to make money.

Yes I am new to boards but been running my paysites for 2 years now.

Anyway off to learn more about traffic sources as I want to spread out a bit now so watch out I will be asking...lol

[hank777]

Everythings well

[Jim]

Well guys, we really appreciate all your comments. And, we have been actively making changes to fit your needs.

One of the features of this new version of the board is a better infraction system. Moderators can now give people infractions for different things like undue insults, spamming...etc. After a certain amount of infractions, the board will automatically ban the person with the infractions. This is the first time the moderators will be able to actively participate in the banning of people that really should find a different board.

We are also in the process of building a bigger, better way to deliver our list of sponsors, news and resources. I do believe that no other resource site has ever done it the way we will be doing it. Obviously, this "thing" is going to take some time. We really hope to have it up and running by the end of this month. I know MrMaryLou is working his fingers to the bone.

[eman]

Well guys, we really appreciate all your comments. And, we have been actively making changes to fit your needs.

One of the features of this new version of the board is a better infraction system.

Absolutely. Every board should have a better infraction system. |thumb

[Chop Smith]

Does that new infraction system issue a warning before it tilts?

When he was active, I have a good friend that would have sent the new system in overload for undue insults. Think I need to avoid the board when those certain cocksucking moods hit me.

[MrYum]

Does that new infraction system issue a warning before it tilts?

When he was active, I have a good friend that would have sent the new system in overload for undue insults. Think I need to avoid the board when those certain cocksucking moods hit me.
Yea, I miss that cocksuckers presence :(

[Jim]

Does that new infraction system issue a warning before it tilts?

When he was active, I have a good friend that would have sent the new system in overload for undue insults. Think I need to avoid the board when those certain cocksucking moods hit me.

The key word is "undue" insults. And yeah, whenever you get an infraction, you get notified. We hardly used it before but are going to start using it once we get it setup right.

But even before this, it always took a lot to get banned. Spammers thought it took too little but everyone else, you had to do something really bad.

[Jim]

As a matter of fact, leaving out spammers, I think we have only banned 3 people at most. Let me think... Everyone knows about one person...you can't even say his program's name. One questioned my honesty and that may be it...

[Jim]

Does that new infraction system issue a warning before it tilts?

When he was active, I have a good friend that would have sent the new system in overload for undue insults. Think I need to avoid the board when those certain cocksucking moods hit me.

One more thing...remember, only moderators and admins can use this system. So, nothing would have overloaded.