Goddamn that pimpdog guy is a dick...

[xxxjay]

His buddy Jim was asking me to help him try to make good back in this community again a few months ago...man, I am glad I never helped.

Fuck Pimpdog and fuck Epicash.

The guy pretty much pisses on a very good friend of mines (who just commited suicide) grave to try to drum up business for his lame program.

It's no wonder he's been hated over here for so long.

[Jim]

I saw on the zoo that they owe some money to Hooper but aren't paying. I was only able to read half the threads but it was enough.

[Ms Naughty]

His buddy Jim was asking me to help him try to make good back in this community again

LOL That would have been very funny to watch.

[LB]

There are many of us who refuse to send traffic to ep1cca$h because of PD's antics and try to steer new webmasters away from them.

Thats pretty much all you can do though, as they have created a business out of getting negative attention.

[Jim]

I just noticed someone from ******** just signed up to the board so maybe we will see a post or two. :)

[RawAlex]

How will we know them? Is there name going to be *********-bob?

Alex

[Jim]

Shit, that's not supposed to do that with me.

[ecchi]

Shit, that's not supposed to do that with me.
Yep, first the computer refuses your commands, then it says "You can't do that Dave."

Won't be long before Jim finds himself floating outside the spaceship.

[babymaker]

Is this thread going to blow up soon?? I am anxoiusly awaiting the drama :D

[natalie]

Yep, first the computer refuses your commands, then it says "You can't do that Dave."

Won't be long before Jim finds himself floating outside the spaceship.
|bananna| Love those series but I wonder how many people here have a clue what you're on about lol. I think americans don't get british humour ;)

[RawAlex]

Canadians do, smegly. :)

Jay, I see that you and Trey did a relative kiss and makeup at the zoo. What's the scoop?

Alex

[Ms Naughty]

smegly.
Shouldn't that be Smeg Head?

Smeeeeeeeeeee. Heeeeeeeeee |jester|

Uh oh. My dork roots are showing. Now, back to the drama (or lack therof)...

[ecchi]

I wonder how many people here have a clue what you're on about lol.
So let's make it a rule. Everyone on the planet has got to see 2001 A Space Odyssey, by law. It'll do them good.

[natalie]

So let's make it a rule. Everyone on the planet has got to see 2001 A Space Odyssey, by law. It'll do them good.
lol u smeghead! BTW I love Lister! |bananna| And Rimmer is a twat.

[sukime69]

So let's make it a rule. Everyone on the planet has got to see 2001 A Space Odyssey, by law. It'll do them good.


I didnt realize there was anyone left that hadnt seen it. The must have been really confused when they saw 2010 hehehe

[docholly]

|bananna| Love those series but I wonder how many people here have a clue what you're on about

We're geeks.. i think pretty much everyone over the age of 25 here should know.. Hello Dave.

Actually my older son, David, named our 1st computer back in 1988 HAL.. and waited very patiently everytime when booting up for it to say.. Hello Dave. LMAO.

:D

[MrYum]

Yep, classic movie!

The guy who runs one of my hosts is a Dave. Used to love to pester him in the morning with a "Hello Dave". Being old enough, he of course got it...unfortunately, I wasn't the first to have done that to him. Always struck me a funny though :D

[Simon]

Sometimes I set my desktop background or my screen saver to rotate through various folders of images. One of them is below. Always interesting when that's all that's on your screen and you can't get your security lock to let you in on the first try.

"I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that."

[SirMoby]

I didnt realize there was anyone left that hadnt seen it.
On a distant planet far, far away where they have no clue what the numbers 2001 really mean.

[tickler]

So let's make it a rule. Everyone on the planet has got to see 2001 A Space Odyssey, by law. It'll do them good.
Preferrably with some nice chemicals in their system.

[ecchi]

Way back when speech synthesis was a new thing, one of my uncles got a new computer for his printing business. Computers did not switch themselves off back then, they just shut down and left you with a message to switch off the computer, and this one did it with a vocal announcement. Someone in the office changed the close down announcement so that when anyone tried to shut the computer down it said "You can't do that Dave". Apparently it scared the hell out of one member of staff.

[ronnie]

Way back when speech synthesis was a new thing, one of my uncles got a new computer for his printing business. Computers did not switch themselves off back then, they just shut down and left you with a message to switch off the computer, and this one did it with a vocal announcement. Someone in the office changed the close down announcement so that when anyone tried to shut the computer down it said "You can't do that Dave". Apparently it scared the hell out of one member of staff.

ROFL .. thats too funny. Bet it was fun back in the day when people really did'nt know or where scared of PC's.

ronnie

[Useless]

Just in case anyone is wondering (and I know you all can't sleep at night worrying about this), from what I read in another thread, it sounds like Jay and the rotten dog fucker have made up and all is wonderful again. So go ahead and put your links back up to epic and pornkings despite the fact that the dog fucker is a complete asshole and fucked a lot of other webmasters.

Okay, you can go ahead and continue discussing whatever the hell it was that you were discussing. :D

[MonsterPartners]

There is always drama associated with pimpdogg, that is their marketing technique. They aren't going to change because in their mind, that is what has worked for them

[Useless]

There is always drama associated with pimpdogg, that is their marketing technique. They aren't going to change because in their mind, that is what has worked for themWell yeah, you expect the dog fucker to create drama and animosity. Let's face it, the man is at least half-retarded. But why did Jay come here with his sudden revelation of pimpfart being a dick, only to go back to hugging, kissing, and questionable amounts of petting with the epic idiot?

[ecchi]

But why did Jay come here with his sudden revelation of pimpfart being a dick, only to go back to hugging, kissing, and questionable amounts of petting with the epic idiot?
Now that is why I never watch the soaps. I don't have to, I get all the inane drama I need from reading the boards.
:)

[Preacher]

...So go ahead and put your links back up to epic and pornkings despite the fact that the dog fucker is a complete asshole and fucked a lot of other webmasters...

Nope, mine are staying down. They would have never gone up had I known who owned PornKings.

There go the 23 hits a month I send, let that be a lesson to them! |jester|

[69pornlinks]

cocaine is a helluva of a drug...hahaha

[karomesis]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior
...So go ahead and put your links back up to epic and pornkings despite the fact that the dog fucker is a complete asshole and fucked a lot of other webmasters...


UselessWarrior, don't hold anything back; let them know how you feel.

|jester|


If you don't mind me asking, what did he do?

[Useless]

If you don't mind me asking, what did he do?His mother gave birth. :D

[Toby]

...If you don't mind me asking, what did he do?OK, just one small example...

A potential affiliate sent an email (to a listed support address) explaining that she would not be promoting the program due to "popup loops" on the tours.

His response, "Your mother is a whore."

That's a mild example. I wouldn't piss on the guy if he were on fire.

[GonZo]

The guy pretty much pisses on a very good friend of mines (who just commited suicide) grave to try to drum up business for his lame program.

It's no wonder he's been hated over here for so long.

Suicide aint nothing to be made fun of...[aeon is still banned on Oprano].

Being a drug addict makes it hard to do ethical and sensible business...If I were you Id never let the pansy up.

[GonZo]

OK, just one small example...

A potential affiliate sent an email (to a listed support address) explaining that she would not be promoting the program due to "popup loops" on the tours.

His response, "Your mother is a whore."

That's a mild example. I wouldn't piss on the guy if he were on fire.
Which is why the chump has to start drama to get any attention to his program. Like I said being a drug addict makes it very hard to do business with any level of success.

I know of 2 instances where he has had to pay as much as 10K and make public apologies to be put back on a couple of major traffic sources.

What do you expect from a guy that started out doing gay webcam one on one shows anyhow?

[Ramster]

I remember that "your mother is a whore" thread on another board and the main reason I will not promote them. There is simply no need of that.

Gonzo
I heard the web cam story before, hahaha.

[ecchi]

What do you expect from a guy that started out doing gay webcam one on one shows anyhow?
What the fuck has that to do with anything?

[GonZo]

What the fuck has that to do with anything?
Call it industry trivia...

[Useless]

Call me a little twisted, but I too think that a skinny little straight white boy sucking cock on cam for drug money is pretty funny. :D

[ecchi]

Call it industry trivia...
I call it homophobia myself.

[GonZo]

I call it homophobia myself.
As you wish.... doesnt change that it is a fact.

[ecchi]

Sorry, in case anyone assumes my last post refers to UW's post it does not. It refers to GonZo's defence ("Call it industry trivia") to his post on pimpdog's insulting and dishonest behaviour ("What do you expect from a guy that started out doing gay webcam")

[ecchi]

As you wish.... doesnt change that it is a fact.
Yeah, but homophobic comments like yours put you in the same group as pimpdog.

[GonZo]

Sorry, in case anyone assumes my last post refers to UW's post it does not. It refers to GonZo's defence ("Call it industry trivia") to his post on pimpdog's insulting and dishonest behaviour ("What do you expect from a guy that started out doing gay webcam")
For a guy that runs a joke site you sure are uptight.

[GonZo]

Yeah, but homophobic comments like yours put you in the same group as pimpdog.
Stereotyping folks puts you in class all on your own.

[ecchi]

Stereotyping folks puts you in class all on your own.
I am not stereotyping anyone, I am referring to the fact that Pimpdog is hated for two reasons, one of which is his rude and insulting posts. Your homophobic post inferring that the reason he does this is because he is gay is as rude and insulting as Pimpdog. And using 'pansy' as a derogatory insult is almost as bad.

[GonZo]

I am not stereotyping anyone, I am referring to the fact that Pimpdog is hated for two reasons, one of which is his rude and insulting posts. Your homophobic post inferring that the reason he does this is because he is gay is as rude and insulting as Pimpdog. And using 'pansy' as a derogatory insult is almost as bad.
Does this mean they are going to revoke my FSC membership now?
Really I dont give a shit what you think.
Obviously your another gay guy with a "politically correct" chip on his shoulder.

I call it fair comment and the truth. You call it what you want... I call it the way I see it.

[Toby]

I am not stereotyping anyone, I am referring to the fact that Pimpdog is hated for two reasons, one of which is his rude and insulting posts. Your homophobic post inferring that the reason he does this is because he is gay is as rude and insulting as Pimpdog. And using 'pansy' as a derogatory insult is almost as bad.You're reading way too fucking much into a passing comment.

There was no inference about that being a reason he is hated, just an example of what he's willing to do (straight guy doing gay live cam) to support a habit.

Have some |coffee and a donut, chill a little, lifes to short to get worked up over the small shit.

[Greenguy]

For a guy that runs a joke site you sure are uptight.
I agree 100%

ecchi - I'm German. Can you remove this joke please:
http://www.homegrownlaughter.com/jokes-58.shtml

Jim was in the army, so this one should be removed as well:
http://www.homegrownlaughter.com/jokes-61.shtml

You want me to go on?

[ecchi]

You want me to go on?
Yes please. I get paid per display on some of those banner ads, so the more pages you look at for "non PC" jokes, the more money I make. :)

[MrMaryLou]

Where is Ramooone????

[GonZo]

Yes please. I get paid per display on some of those banner ads, so the more pages you look at for "non PC" jokes, the more money I make. :)
Hypocrite.

[ecchi]

Hypocrite.
That was a joke.

[Jim]

I don't even remember what Pimpdog did here to piss everyone off. But, I have had dealings with sponsors that were drug addicts right here. And, after empty envelopes showed up and months went by with excuses, we just stopped using them as a sponsor.

Pimpdog is an admitted addict. They disappear for days and weeks and you just can't trust getting paid. Much less, the "coke balls" on boards they get when they have recently shot, snorted or smoked coke.

The gay thing...ehhh, who cares? But it is good to know it isn't just coke he smokes :)

[Surfn]

Stereotyping folks puts you in class all on your own.
I agree 100%...

[GonZo]

That was a joke.
Excuses excuses.... somebody needs to call you a "waaaahbulance".

[ecchi]

Excuses excuses.... somebody needs to call you a "waaaahbulance".
It was not an excuse it was a clarification. I don't have a problem being called a hypocrite. You calling me a hypocrite was not relevant to that post, but it was a lucky call. Oftentimes I am a hypocrite.

[ecchi]

I agree 100%...
Yeah but if he had said I have three noses and wear my mother's underwear, you would have agreed 100%. :)

[GonZo]

It was not an excuse it was a clarification. I don't have a problem being called a hypocrite. You calling me a hypocrite was not relevant to that post, but it was a lucky call. Oftentimes I am a hypocrite.
And from the looks of it a self righteous cry baby too...|cry|

[digifan]

I don't even remember what Pimpdog did here to piss everyone off. But, I have had dealings with sponsors that were drug addicts right here. And, after empty envelopes showed up and months went by with excuses, we just stopped using them as a sponsor.

Pimpdog is an admitted addict. They disappear for days and weeks and you just can't trust getting paid. Much less, the "coke balls" on boards they get when they have recently shot, snorted or smoked coke.

The gay thing...ehhh, who cares? But it is good to know it isn't just coke he smokes :)
Lol at Jim |waves|

I hate that guy with a passion... he is the only one who's board personas I cannot tolerate. All he says is |bullshit| and he is an attention whore without class.

[digifan]

Well yeah, you expect the dog fucker to create drama and animosity. Let's face it, the man is at least half-retarded. But why did Jay come here with his sudden revelation of pimpfart being a dick, only to go back to hugging, kissing, and questionable amounts of petting with the epic idiot?
Good call, UW :)

Maybe he thought that since the guy is banned here, he can get this off his chest, find support and whatnot? |badidea|

[Papa]

I can't beleive that someone can go like this without getting a slap in the ass or two.

I've been online since late 96 and usually, those guys fall but this one.....

[xxxjay]

Well yeah, you expect the dog fucker to create drama and animosity. Let's face it, the man is at least half-retarded. But why did Jay come here with his sudden revelation of pimpfart being a dick, only to go back to hugging, kissing, and questionable amounts of petting with the epic idiot?

UW - That is pretty far from the truth. I just dropped the beef so I could get back to work. Pissing on boards is time consuming.

I still stand by the title of this thread.

[xxxjay]

And for Useless Warrior...I would like to add:

I posted over here becasue I knew he burned his bridges with GG along time ago and I was curious why. I don't side with people automaticly in beefs...a person has to do something to me first.

And furthermore, I don't know and don't really care what you think of me personally...fact is, I work hard...very hard...I've busted my ass to get where I am today...to wage a full-on pissing war with that bastard took up a lot of my time...time is money...but I went as far as outing every one of his programs (some of which are run by people I AM FRIENDS with)...I put everything on the line just to show I could take him down a notch if I wanted to...all's I wanted was an apology...which was what I got...nobody has ever done that to that guy...it was a matter of principal...nothing else.

We aren't friends, never were friends, and I am sure never will be.

End of story.

[Useless]

I put everything on the line just to show I could take him down a notch if I wanted to...all's I wanted was an apology...which was what I got...nobody has ever done that to that guy...it was a matter of principal...nothing else.But Jay, there's no way you could knock him down a notch on this board. He's never had any love here. My qualm with this thread is the fact that you dropped in, started two drama theads, then walked out. No updates, no anything. Then I hear through the grapevine that all is forgiven and that you two are sharing recipes while sipping lattes at Starbucks. (Slight exageration for effect.) I don't know - maybe it's because I am not a forgiving guy, but I firmly believe that if you call someone out on the boards - unless you are proven wrong in some manner, then that person is shit for eternity. Of course, I'm told (quite often) that I should be seeking therapy.

[Greenguy]

Jay - you do have to admit that you do have a tendency to start threads & then either not reply or come back weeks later.

Example:
http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/showthread.php?t=30628

[Chop Smith]

|buddy| , for some reason I knew that this thread would end with an egotistical prick telling us how important he is.

[m@rk]

my thoughts exactly ...

|buddy| , for some reason I knew that this thread would end with an egotistical prick telling us how important he is.

[xxxjay]

Jay - you do have to admit that you do have a tendency to start threads & then either not reply or come back weeks later.

Example:
http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/showthread.php?t=30628

Duely, noted. Honestly...I didn't think anyone was looking at it becasue it was in the spam. I have some meetings today...when I get back I will clarify everything.

Thanks for the heads up.

[xxxjay]

But Jay, there's no way you could knock him down a notch on this board. He's never had any love here. My qualm with this thread is the fact that you dropped in, started two drama theads, then walked out. No updates, no anything. Then I hear through the grapevine that all is forgiven and that you two are sharing recipes while sipping lattes at Starbucks. (Slight exageration for effect.) I don't know - maybe it's because I am not a forgiving guy, but I firmly believe that if you call someone out on the boards - unless you are proven wrong in some manner, then that person is shit for eternity. Of course, I'm told (quite often) that I should be seeking therapy.

LOL, haha. That is funny actually. Here is how I look at it...yeah, the dude did piss me off. A very good friend of mine died and he pretty much pissed on his grave. I asked for an apology and there was none. So I went to war. That war and all that hate consumed a buttload of my time. The dude called, he appologized, so we stopped slamming eachother and I could get back to work on my linklist and building my program. Things that are a lot more important.

My feelings for the guy haven't changed, I don't send him or any of his programs a click. I even exposed all of the programs the guy did own on the boards and that took a little research. However, you I don't expect you to tow the party line just becasue I've had a problem or Greenguy has had a problem.

Lastly, its one thing dislike someone. Its another to waste you time and energy to make them feel that hate. There are things I could be doing that are a lot more productive that flaming on GFY and I needed to get back to those things.

You might want to try it in your personal life some...accentuate the positive and let the negitive sluff off. Don't forgive, don't forget, but don't let it drag you down either...get the albatross off your neck and do stuff the benifits yourself.

That's just my opinion.

[Useless]

That's actually pretty well said, Jay. |thumb

[xxxjay]

|buddy| , for some reason I knew that this thread would end with an egotistical prick telling us how important he is.

What's that supposed to mean? I'm a nobody. Pimpdog isn't here.

[docholly]

LOL, haha. That is funny actually.

a lot more productive that flaming on GFY

The funniest part is using the words "productive" and "gfy" in the same sentence. |jester|

[xxxjay]

Jay - you do have to admit that you do have a tendency to start threads & then either not reply or come back weeks later.

Example:
http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/showthread.php?t=30628

Done...sorry about the delay. I will check back tonight for more questions.

[Chop Smith]

What's that supposed to mean? I'm a nobody. Pimpdog isn't here.
My reply had nothing to do with this Pimpdog character. As far as know he is not an invited guest on this board.

I am sure that you are somebody and respected in this business by some.

I was just expressing a common opinion about you that you are sold on yourself and toot your own horn way too much. I am probably one of the few that would ever say it to your face, but I think you need a realty check.

[GonZo]

What's that supposed to mean? I'm a nobody. Pimpdog isn't here.
I call foul for encroachment on my gimmick.

[xxxjay]

My reply had nothing to do with this Pimpdog character. As far as know he is not an invited guest on this board.

Uhh, duh...I could tell you were being a dick. Apperently you are intelligent enough to grasp the sarcam.

I am sure that you are somebody and respected in this business by some.

Maybe I am, maybe I'm not. Who knows. And you are?

Why do you submit freesites to me if I suck so bad? You send some real mixed signals.

I was just expressing a common opinion about you that you are sold on yourself and toot your own horn way too much.

What was I supposed to do have that shit go on forever? I hammered that guy pretty good, nobody else has done that. I wanted an apology from him and I drug his ass and everybody associated with him till I got it. That was also at the expense of a lot of other business relationships that were strained by the fued.

That's a long way from selling out.

I didn't sell out. I got back to work.

I am probably one of the few that would ever say it to your face, but I think you need a realty check.

LOL - Anytime you want to cowboy.

|greenguy|

[Useless]

Apperently you are intelligent enough to grasp the sarcam.Sorry, I just thought that sentence was a keeper. ;)

Jay, I find you to be very difficult to like, but since you're here - what does the OC stand for? Honest question. I asked a few others and no one seems to know. |huh

[xxxjay]

Sorry, I just thought that sentence was a keeper. ;)

Jay, I find you to be very difficult to like, but since you're here - what does the OC stand for? Honest question. I asked a few others and no one seems to know. |huh

That's ok, if you like me you like, if you don't you don't...I could really care less. I do good business. I have traffic. I don't rip people off...I am willing to help out new guys and not be pigheaded.

On the OC thing...yeah, that is kind of fucked up. It stand for Orange County (CA) -- which was where I lived for a while, but after spending a few months there I couldn't stand it and moved up to LA. OC is taken from that lame show "The OC"...and the big irony of all of this is OCCash is pretty much an interracial sponsor and there is hardly one black person in all of Orange County.

It was all a comedy of errors I suppose, but it's our name - we've grown to be a big program with it -- so, I guess we are stuck with it.

[docholly]

On the OC thing...yeah, that is kind of fucked up. It stand for Orange County (CA) -- which was where I lived for a while, but after spending a few months there I couldn't stand it and moved up to LA. OC is taken from that lame show "The OC"...and the big irony of all of this is OCCash is pretty much an interracial sponsor and there is hardly one black person in all of Orange County.



*hands on wide hips glaring at UW*.. so you didn't believe me?? |cry|
Never underestimate the power of the goodhead!! |smooch|

[Useless]

*hands on wide hips glaring at UW*.. so you didn't believe me?? |cry|
Never underestimate the power of the goodhead!! |smooch|Yes, I admit that you said that, but I thought it was a joke. Who would have guessed? Oh, that's right - you. ;)

[xxxjay]

Yes, I admit that you said that, but I thought it was a joke. Who would have guessed? Oh, that's right - you. ;)

You are right...the name is pretty much a joke, but you are also talking to a guy who spent a dozen years of his life playing in a metal band called "Dick Delicious and the Tasty Testicles".

It's not the biggest mistake I've ever made.

LOL.

[Chop Smith]

|yawn|

Uhh, duh...I could tell you were being a dick.
You did mean to say I was acting like a dick? Because I am not the one that runs in and out this board pissing on the floor. Only a real dick would do that.

Apparently you are intelligent enough to grasp the sarcam.
Yes, someone taught me how to read and write.

Maybe I am, maybe I'm not. Who knows.
I was making an effort to say something nice before blasting you.

And you are?
No, not at all. I openly admit and have stated publicly on this board that I am a small player in this business. However, I am appreciative of the trust and the respect that I have from my fellow webmasters. Even if I was highly successful, I doubt if I would go around telling folks. I enjoy being just another redneck from Mississippi. I can retain friends longer that way as it is always best to expect friends to look down rather than up. They can get a much nicer view of the real person.

Why do you submit freesites to me if I suck so bad? You send some real mixed signals.
First, I never said you sucked. Without calling your name, I implied that you were an egotistical prick . I have submitted to you in the past for two reasons: 1) I am a whore and 2) daretwo is a good member of this board and I like him. However, submitting to you is not that important to me so I can and will stop. You don't even have to ask. (Damn there goes the grand babies' shoes)

I hammered that guy pretty good, nobody else has done that.
:D I know that feeling. It takes balls to go public with a pissing contest and you never know which skunk will win. Most likely both will lose something. Anyway, who gives a shit about you hammering the guy? That was old news to this board. It sounds personal to me and I think you should have pissed on your own floor or gone to the zoo.

LOL - Anytime you want to cowboy.
I am not a cowboy. Played one before but not in this business. I assume that you are implying here that I meant someone needed to open a drum of whoop ass on you. Not at all! I meant that you need to take a hard look at your tactics. Too late for an ass whooping as you can probably grow pubic hair by now. Anyway, it was just some friendly advice. I know since you did not ask for advice it is not worth a damn.

...we've grown to be a big program with it...
A typical comment from you. We are happy that you are successful and truly wish you future success, but give us a break. We know you are a fantastic musician, a great author, SEO guru, owner of a big link list, master statistician, a busy man, soon to be worth millions and anything else that you have shared with us. Around here being XXXJay will do.

Finally, remember that NATS' thread that you started ages ago? Did it ever occur to you that some knowledgable folks were willing to help you with a solution? No you just pissed and left. So I get this nice email from Sammy and Brett, updating me and saying thanks for my small input. I then emailed your program asking when the encode/unencode feature would be turn on. They didn't have a clue as to what I was speaking of. Emailed your guy back and pointed him to your thread here. It was like, bastard child, we have version 2 installed so fuck off. So I said to self, "Self, fuck a bunch of egotistical pricks" and never took a look again until a few minutes ago. The feature is not there. You started some shit but when the fix was made you never installed it. The feature is on most if not all the other NATS users' sites and I have been told by many that the feature is installed as a default. Got to be a reason for keeping those bull shit codes.

Jay, we can stop this at any point. I had much rather be known as a good ole boy.

[xxxjay]

|yawn| You did mean to say I was acting like a dick? Because I am not the one that runs in and out this board pissing on the floor. Only a real dick would do that.

Dude. You really have no clue about me.

Yes, someone taught me how to read and write.

Yeah man, I know 2nd grade is considered your senior year in Mississippi. (sorry Linkster...:))

I was making an effort to say something nice before blasting you.

You blasted me? Where?

|No, not at all. I openly admit and have stated publicly on this board that I am a small player in this business.

OK.

However, I am appreciative of the trust and the respect that I have from my fellow webmasters. Even if I was highly successful, I doubt if I would go around telling folks. I enjoy being just another redneck from Mississippi. I can retain friends longer that way as it is always best to expect friends to look down rather than up.

I am a redneck from Georgia. Always good me chat with a fellow Southerner.

First, I never said you sucked. Without calling your name, I implied that you were an egotistical prick..

Whatever dude. I got the message loud and clear.

I have submitted to you in the past for two reasons: 1) I am a whore.

So you want to insult me out of one side of my mouth and take my traffic out the other? "Whore" is a poor choice of words..."idiot", "leach", and "hypocryte" come to mind quickly. I'm sure I can come up with a lot more.

and 2) daretwo is a good member of this board and I like him..

LOL...yeah, Daretwo is great. Ask him who pays him every week, on time, would gladly lend him money, gives him nice bonuses on holidays, and pretty much lets him keep his own schedule?

I'm not a good member of this board? I know I've gotten in beefs with a person or two here (including Greenguy), but all of that has been settled. I've supported this board since day one and wil continue to. A link to GG&Jim is on every page a webmaster sees after submission, on my resource page, bought advertsing, and if they have a problem with being listed...I send them here. End of story.

However, submitting to you is not that important to me so I can and will stop..

I don't care one way or the other. I not going to blacklist you.

You don't even have to ask. (Damn there goes the grand babies' shoes).

Stop if you want to stop, submit if you want to submit...I see that you have quite a few sites listen in the queue already.

I hope you enjoyed the sales. Even if it did come from a scumbag like myself.


:D I know that feeling. It takes balls to go public with a pissing contest and you never know which skunk will win. Most likely both will lose something..

As you will soon learn.

Anyway, who gives a shit about you hammering the guy? That was old news to this board. It sounds personal to me and I think you should have pissed on your own floor or gone to the zoo..

Sorry, when you piss on a very good friends grave like that asshole did it really adds insult to injury. I hope you are never in the same situation.

I am not a cowboy. Played one before but not in this business..

Brokeback Mountain perhaps?

I assume that you are implying here that I meant someone needed to open a drum of whoop ass on you..

Nah, not at all. You don't have the guts.

Not at all! I meant that you need to take a hard look at your tactics. Too late for an ass whooping as you can probably grow pubic hair by now..

LOL - from whom?

Anyway, it was just some friendly advice. I know since you did not ask for advice it is not worth a damn..

I am breaking out my notebook.

A typical comment from you. We are happy that you are successful and truly wish you future success, but give us a break. We know you are a fantastic musician, a great author, SEO guru, owner of a big link list, master statistician, a busy man.

And having talent is wrong, why?

Finally, remember that NATS' thread that you started ages ago?

No.

Did it ever occur to you that some knowledgable folks were willing to help you with a solution?.

If it is the unencrypted link code that you speak of. We were the first ones to have them. We were the 4th client NATS ever had. We also found those codes to be buggier than a Mississippi swamp. That is why we do not use them currently...sales we being lost, credited to wrong affiliates, all kinds of shit.

No you just pissed and left. So I get this nice email from Sammy and Brett, updating me and saying thanks for my small input. I then emailed your program asking when the encode/unencode feature would be turn on..

See above.

They didn't have a clue as to what I was speaking of. Emailed your guy back and pointed him to your thread here. It was like, bastard child, we have version 2 installed so fuck off. So I said to self, "Self, fuck a bunch of egotistical pricks" and never took a look again until a few minutes ago. The feature is not there. You started some shit but when the fix was made you never installed it. The feature is on most if not all the other NATS users' sites and I have been told by many that the feature is installed as a default. Got to be a reason for keeping those bull shit codes..

Yes, they don't work correctly. This becomes even more apparent when you are running a few hundred sales a day through NATS. If you look at most NATS programs now, you will see that they are no longer there. We are getting Version 3 this week, I'll let you know how it goes.

Jay, we can stop this at any point. I had much rather be known as a good ole boy.


Hell yeah buddy...last I checked there wasn't anything "good" about you. In fact, if you want to see the arrogant prick in this thread...you had better go grab a mirror. Fact is, I don't know anything about you other than Dare was listing your sites, you had bashed me a bunch (quite rudely) about my 2257 views (which I've wound up being right about so far...I'll be at the FSC meeting Thursday if you need to know what goes on), and you and your cronies have pretty much pissed on me at every opportunity.

You can say I'm egotistical or whatever you want, but last I checked being smart, talented, or successful isn't a crime…and, after all, not so long ago…I was just a little webmaster from the South…just like you.

Rip on me all you want dude…I’ll make you feel so low that you will need a parachute to jump off a dime if you want to go down that road.

Hell, I enjoy it.

If you want to stop...thats cool too. :)

[digifan]

cocaine is a helluva of a drug...hahaha
Heroine must be even better... and the dirty needles heh.

What i don't understand (amongst a lot more things) is why this thread is in the general business knowledge forum.

And I think a good board member knows a bit more about other board members and won't think that money can solve everything... but what do I know... |loony| |dizzy| |waves|

[Surfn]

I see you haven't wasted any time,the past couple of years, trying to improve your people skills Jay...

[Useless]

Rip on me all you want dude…I’ll make you feel so low that you will need a parachute to jump off a dime if you want to go down that road.

Hell, I enjoy it.I've made my final decision. Jay - you are a rotten fuck. Feel free to go fuck yourself, your traffic, and OC Cash. You are certainly not needed here, and I have the impression that you are not wanted here. Go away and play with your shit-tossing monkey brethren at the zoo.

You never come here to help anyone. You just strut in screaming, "Look at my balls! Look at my cock! They're wonderful!" Well, good for you and all of your wonderful successes. Hope life is good in that little golden closet you live in. I'd like to be there the day you step outside of it to the startling realization that you are the only one who sees the glitter. The rest of just see some tattooed kid who still thinks a man is made of the girls he screws and the beers he drinks. Grow up.

[xxxjay]

I see you haven't wasted any time,the past couple of years, trying to improve your people skills Jay...

You know what...I do remember getting into it with you a while back about 2257...now that time has passed...you know what? You were right. I was wrong.

Mad respect for that.

You can make a point without being obnoxious though.

[xxxjay]

I've made my final decision. Jay - you are a rotten fuck. Feel free to go fuck yourself, your traffic, and OC Cash. You are certainly not needed here, and I have the impression that you are not wanted here. Go away and play with your shit-tossing monkey brethren at the zoo.

You never come here to help anyone. You just strut in screaming, "Look at my balls! Look at my cock! They're wonderful!" Well, good for you and all of your wonderful successes. Hope life is good in that little golden closet you live in. I'd like to be there the day you step outside of it to the startling realization that you are the only one who sees the glitter. The rest of just see some tattooed kid who still thinks a man is made of the girls he screws and the beers he drinks. Grow up.

I just don't get it...I go this whole thread without name calling, without accusing anyone of being haters...I get called an arrogant prick or whatever...and now I get crucified for having a small degree of success in this business?

I don't get it. Should I just submit free sites for the rest of my life? Then would I have your respect? Maybe you should screw a few chciks, get a tat...drink a beer or something.

The whole reason I started this thread is becasue I was curious what PD did to get banned over here and I got some answers.

I stopped beefing with him on GFY becasue the shit would go on forever. We're not freinds. We don't do business. I don't send him or anyone he's affilaited with any traffic.

I really don't understand all of the frush.

:D

[Babagirls]

There are many of us who refuse to send traffic to ep1cca$h because of PD's antics and try to steer new webmasters away from them.



Im one of them.

[xxxjay]

I've made my final decision. Jay - you are a rotten fuck.

I'm crestfallen.

Feel free to go fuck yourself, your traffic, and OC Cash.

Stop submitting then.

You are certainly not needed here, and I have the impression that you are not wanted here.

You're right, I'm not. I do a lot of good business with Ramster, Linkster, Bill, and a number of other guys on this board.

Do you all want to get together and vote me off the island? If you do that successfully...I'll never post again.

Go away and play with your shit-tossing monkey brethren at the zoo.

Very mature.

You never come here to help anyone.

That fucking bullshit. I've given SE advice, answered stats questions, ask Bill Eichman who the only person who never dropped a link trade was, and I've helped people get listed. Yeah, I may have slowed down, but I'm also spread a lot thinner than I used to be.

You just strut in screaming, "Look at my balls! Look at my cock! They're wonderful!"

Please wake up from your homosexual fantasy.

Well, good for you and all of your wonderful successes. Hope life is good in that little golden closet you live in. I'd like to be there the day you step outside of it to the startling realization that you are the only one who sees the glitter.

You should put that on a Hallmark Card.

The rest of just see some tattooed kid who still thinks a man is made of the girls he screws and the beers he drinks.

I'll take that as a compliment.

Grow up.

Wouldn't if I could.

BTW: You look kind of like Les Claypool from Primus.

[Greenguy]

|popcorn|

[Useless]

Listen, you dumb fuck - let me just start by saying that YOU HAVE ALREADY REPLIED and I didn't bother posting back to you. I already let you have the last word. I'm good that way, I don't need the last word. I've already said all that I intended on saying, but since you seem to have some sick fucking need to continue the drama, you dysfunctional bastard, here goes....
I'm crestfallen.As am I. :D
Stop submitting then.Um, check your records. Do you have any idea how long it's been since I submitted anything to anyone? I know you love thinking that everyone is dependent on your oh-so-wonderful traffic, but guess what smart ass - I'm not. This is nothing more than a schoolyard shouting match to me. I don't need you you or childish pierced face for a fucking thing. I'm not some goddamned sheep who is afraid to tell you what I think of you cause I'm afraid you'll pull my links. This is me saying go for it. Drop whatever listing you still have of mine. I'm sure you're sending simply tons of traffic all this time later.
You're right, I'm not. I do a lot of good business with Ramster, Linkster, Bill, and a number of other guys on this board.Like I give one solid fuck, you name-dropping douche sipping retard. I don't do any business with any of them and, oddly enough, I still sleep well at night. Doesn't mean I don't respect them - and they know I do - but their business with you effects me less than an outbreak of anal warts in Mongolia.
Do you all want to get together and vote me off the island? If you do that successfully...I'll never post again.Sorry Jay, but real life isn't a reality show. There's no tribal meetings here. You can do what you want. Come and go as you please. You obviously don't give two fucks about what people really think of you, especailly those you "do a lot of good business with". You just keep working on projecting that rock star image of yours with hopes that some newbies will fall for all your bullshit. "Oh, he's so cool!"
That fucking bullshit. I've given SE advice, answered stats questions, ask Bill Eichman who the only person who never dropped a link trade was, and I've helped people get listed. Yeah, I may have slowed down, but I'm also spread a lot thinner than I used to be.Maybe eons ago, but you've been nothing but a bitch for a long time here. Let me think for a moment...what was the problem..? Oh yeah, you spammed the fuck out this board when OC first launched without ever purchasing advertising as promised. I believe the on board fallout from that was what suddenly sent you packing to other pastures.
Please wake up from your homosexual fantasy.Um, what? Speaking of childish...I think someone needs his diaper changed.
You should put that on a Hallmark Card.And that's the first fucking thing you've said here that I can agree with. |thumb
BTW: You look kind of like Les Claypool from Primus.That's not me in the avatar - I'm dead sexy. Of course, I haven't added to my natural features with ink and gold, but luckily I don't suffer from body dysmorphic disorder.

BTW - don't let this little tiff make you think that I won't let you buy me a drink if we ever meet sometime. I prefer Corona with lime. Yes, I know - it's a little gay, but that's what I like. (the beer, not the gay thing)

[GonZo]

Since you dont have a popcorn one...

|bus|

[Chop Smith]

Dude. You really have no clue about me.
Now see you opened your mouth again. Clues and opinions is about all that I have about you. However, in real life, I did introduced myself to you once. As a fact, that was when I formed my initial opinion of you. The opinion that you thought your shit did not stink.

Yeah man, I know 2nd grade is considered your senior year in Mississippi. (sorry Linkster...)
I am proud of my second grade education and I don't think you need to be worried about Linkster as I believe that he was educated in other states.

You blasted me? Where?
Not sure if we at a vocabulary class in second so 'blast' might have been a bad choice of words. I do know being tagged as an egotistical prick is not complimentary.

I am a redneck from Georgia. Always good me chat with a fellow Southerner.
Yeah, I recall reading your writings of being held in Georgia.

So you want to insult me out of one side of my mouth and take my traffic out the other? "Whore" is a poor choice of words..."idiot", "leach", and "hypocryte" come to mind quickly. I'm sure I can come up with a lot more.
Sport, you are letting your fingers fly too quickly. Neither of those three words could ever apply to me. Well, 'idiot' perhaps because it is idiotic to waste the time on this reply. 'Leach', not at all, I have always paid my way or did not travel. 'Hypocrite', in what way? By submitting to an open submission form? Anyway, this one can come off the table. I agree not to submit to you. If I owe an apology for doing submitting in the past, accept it.

Seriously, Jay I appreciate folks that list my stuff and you are no exception. But it is not a big deal as my 'bubble gum' sites do not do well with your traffic. Before you jump, I am sincere and not trashing your traffic.

I hope you enjoyed the sales. Even if it did come from a scumbag like myself.
I will stick will calling you an egotistical prick, you use whatever you like.

LOL...yeah, Daretwo is great. Ask him who pays him every week, on time, would gladly lend him money, gives him nice bonuses on holidays, and pretty much lets him keep his own schedule?
Thanks for offering up Dare's opinion of you.

I'm not a good member of this board?
No.

I know I've gotten in beefs with a person or two here (including Greenguy), but all of that has been settled. I've supported this board since day one and wil continue to. A link to GG&Jim is on every page a webmaster sees after submission, on my resource page, bought advertsing, and if they have a problem with being listed...I send them here. End of story.
This makes you different from the rest of us? The only difference I know is that you shit on their floor caused a big ole stink and then blamed it on your partners. Why didn't they ban you ass anyway? Most of your post on this board are self-serving and you expect your spam to get top billing. Hell, you were whining about it, yesterday, over there in that stats thread.

As you will soon learn.
Sounds threatening. Should I be worried?

Sorry, when you piss on a very good friends grave like that asshole did it really adds insult to injury. I hope you are never in the same situation.
First, death is personal and this not the place to discuss it.
Second, this thread was not about the death of your friend, it was about you slamming this pimpdog character, someone that came here and shit all over my friends' floor. He was banned. You should have been.

Brokeback Mountain perhaps?
So you got around to bashing gays now? I am not sure if you will suck one but you damn sure look like you would hold it in your mouth.

It use to be women that you degraded and then come back with some lame excuse as to be misunderstood. What group is next with you? You got God and Easter recently I hear.

Nah, not at all. You don't have the guts.
Are you medicating for LMS? I don't want to fight you. Besides, if you beat my ass, who will you brag. It is not a major accomplishment when you whoop an old man's ass. And at that I am not sure that a snooty nose kid can even whip my ass today. They damn sure would not be getting a virgin.

LOL - from whom?
I was referencing that your parents probably should administered a few ass whippings to you.

And having talent is wrong, why?
Nothing wrong with having talent. But the more you brag about your accomplishments the more that your talent comes into question.


No.

If it is the unencrypted link code that you speak of. We were the first ones to have them. We were the 4th client NATS ever had. We also found those codes to be buggier than a Mississippi swamp. That is why we do not use them currently...sales we being lost, credited to wrong affiliates, all kinds of shit.

Yes, they don't work correctly. This becomes even more apparent when you are running a few hundred sales a day through NATS. If you look at most NATS programs now, you will see that they are no longer there. We are getting Version 3 this week, I'll let you know how it goes.

Now dumb me in thinking you would recall a thread you started. And your response to you disappearing is not valid as you just left another stream of piss on the floor.

Your NATS explanation has to be some of your fantasy bull shit. All those NATS users can not be running a buggy script.

This would be another another good spam topic for you. "NEWSFLASH!! OC Cash is the only NATS User With Correct Stats"

Get a life. Consider how many folks suspect you of shaving by using that encrypted code bull shit.

No need to let me know about an update. There is only one man in the world that could cause me to list it as I gave up after the rude emails.

Hell yeah buddy...last I checked there wasn't anything "good" about you.
Damn, wondering who has been talking?

In fact, if you want to see the arrogant prick in this thread...you had better go grab a mirror.
I will take a quick look. No, it is not me.

Fact is, I don't know anything about you other than Dare was listing your sites, you had bashed me a bunch (quite rudely) about my 2257 views (which I've wound up being right about so far
What is it about reality that bugs you. This is not true at all. Did I agree with your scare tactics for driving membership to FSC? No. Was I rude? Sure did not mean to be. Direct probably.

06/05/05 http://greenguysboard.com/board/showthread.php?t=20707 . My comments here was about you crying about your thread being moved. Hell, we beat that issue to death before you decided to join us.

07/01/05 http://greenguysboard.com/board/showpost.php?p=182851&postcount=60 . Just making a point about the membership drive. In this thread, I considered you inviting me to a pissing contest and declined out of respect to Greenguy and Jim and the other board members,

...I'll be at the FSC meeting Thursday if you need to know what goes on)
Saw that over there in Bill's thread. Nice resume material. I will just way for the fuckers to send me a newsletter and a dues statement.

and you and your cronies have pretty much pissed on me at every opportunity.
Who are my cronies? Sorry I will speak for myself.

Rip on me all you want dude…I’ll make you feel so low that you will need a parachute to jump off a dime if you want to go down that road.
Damn, you are bad in your own eyes. But you are just an egotistical prick.

[Surfn]

Since you dont have a popcorn one...

|bus|
Click on MORE | popcorn | without the spaces works too :D

[xxxjay]

Listen, you dumb fuck - let me just start by saying that YOU HAVE ALREADY REPLIED and I didn't bother posting back to you. I already let you have the last word. I'm good that way, I don't need the last word. I've already said all that I intended on saying, but since you seem to have some sick fucking need to continue the drama, you dysfunctional bastard, here goes....

Here goes nothing.

As am I. :D
Um, check your records. Do you have any idea how long it's been since I submitted anything to anyone? I know you love thinking that everyone is dependent on your oh-so-wonderful traffic, but guess what smart ass - I'm not. This is nothing more than a schoolyard shouting match to me. I don't need you you or childish pierced face for a fucking thing. I'm not some goddamned sheep who is afraid to tell you what I think of you cause I'm afraid you'll pull my links. This is me saying go for it. Drop whatever listing you still have of mine. I'm sure you're sending simply tons of traffic all this time later.

Whoa, sorry just assumed you did. You boty Chop has had over 200 listings with me, your head is pretty far up his ass, so I assumed you did too.

Like I give one solid fuck

Try eating a bannana.

you name-dropping douche sipping retard.

Douche sipping? Is that a new martini?

I don't do any business with any of them and, oddly enough, I still sleep well at night.

Too bad, they are good guys.

Doesn't mean I don't respect them - and they know I do - but their business with you effects me less than an outbreak of anal warts in Mongolia.

Dude, you should totally write for the "Family Guy"! Remember that time Peter got Anal Warts in Mongolia...

Sorry Jay, but real life isn't a reality show. There's no tribal meetings here. You can do what you want. Come and go as you please. You obviously don't give two fucks about what people really think of you, especailly those you "do a lot of good business with". You just keep working on projecting that rock star image of yours with hopes that some newbies will fall for all your bullshit. "Oh, he's so cool!"

Dude that's just the way I am. Would you be happier if I was a "useless" bitter old cantankerous dillwad like yourself?

Maybe eons ago, but you've been nothing but a bitch for a long time here. Let me think for a moment...what was the problem..? Oh yeah, you spammed the fuck out this board when OC first launched without ever purchasing advertising as promised. I believe the on board fallout from that was what suddenly sent you packing to other pastures.

Wow, let's beat that dead horse again. And FYI, we did buy advertising (and will again), just not on the schedule promised, and I regret that, but I did keep my word. Jim and Greenguy are over it. Why aren't you?

Um, what? Speaking of childish...I think someone needs his diaper changed. And that's the first fucking thing you've said here that I can agree with. |thumb That's not me in the avatar - I'm dead sexy. Of course, I haven't added to my natural features with ink and gold, but luckily I don't suffer from body dysmorphic disorder.

English please.

BTW - don't let this little tiff make you think that I won't let you buy me a drink if we ever meet sometime. I prefer Corona with lime. Yes, I know - it's a little gay, but that's what I like. (the beer, not the gay thing)

I like Corona and lime too. You can get me a Bug Light.

|waves|

[koolkat]

|yawn| This thread is starting to get a little old... why don't we try to act like adults here and stop bashing each other. Hell, if we are going to bash someone, let's at least do it behind their back! |badidea|

[Useless]

Dude that's just the way I am. Would you be happier if I was a "useless" bitter old cantankerous dillwad like yourself?Whoa Nelly! Hold on now, damn it. I can take pretty much any type of insult or name calling, as I'm sure you can too, but 'old' is where I draw the line. Man, that just isn't fair. I'm 35 and will be 36 in December. Let's just get that straight. |angry|

[MeatPounder]

Whoa Nelly! Hold on now, damn it. I can take pretty much any type of insult or name calling, as I'm sure you can too, but 'old' is where I draw the line. Man, that just isn't fair. I'm 35 and will be 36 in December. Let's just get that straight. |angry|
35?



Damn your old

[xxxjay]

Now see you opened your mouth again. Clues and opinions is about all that I have about you. However, in real life, I did introduced myself to you once. As a fact, that was when I formed my initial opinion of you. The opinion that you thought your shit did not stink.

Lord, you can come in the bathroom anytime right after I've smashed, trust me, it stinks.

I am proud of my second grade education and I don't think you need to be worried about Linkster as I believe that he was educated in other states.

Just a little Mississippi humor there.

Not sure if we at a vocabulary class in second so 'blast' might have been a bad choice of words. I do know being tagged as an egotistical prick is not complimentary.

OK

Yeah, I recall reading your writings of being held in Georgia.

Yep.

Sport, you are letting your fingers fly too quickly. Neither of those three words could ever apply to me. Well, 'idiot' perhaps because it is idiotic to waste the time on this reply. 'Leach', not at all, I have always paid my way or did not travel. 'Hypocrite', in what way? By submitting to an open submission form? Anyway, this one can come off the table. I agree not to submit to you. If I owe an apology for doing submitting in the past, accept it.

If you really think that ill of me...don't take my traffic...that was my whole point. You are a real certified piece of steaming dogshit, if this is how you want to conduct yourself.

Seriously, Jay I appreciate folks that list my stuff and you are no exception. But it is not a big deal as my 'bubble gum' sites do not do well with your traffic. Before you jump, I am sincere and not trashing your traffic.

Thanks for not trashing my traffic. I will, however trash your program. You sites look like the north end of a southbound mule. Nobody wants to buy that shit. They look like they haven't been updated since the late 90's...it really some repugnant shit.

I will stick will calling you an egotistical prick, you use whatever you like.

I'll save my name calling for the end.

Thanks for offering up Dare's opinion of you.

Have you heard anything different?

This makes you different from the rest of us? The only difference I know is that you shit on their floor caused a big ole stink and then blamed it on your partners. Why didn't they ban you ass anyway? Most of your post on this board are self-serving and you expect your spam to get top billing. Hell, you were whining about it, yesterday, over there in that stats thread.

Is the GGandJim Board Sport over here beating dead horses? How does that affect you anyways? Like I said above, we made good on our promises, not on the timetable expected, but we did keep our word.

You know, maybe in the past my board etiquette may not have been so good, but you live and learn...or I do anyway.

Go read the stats thread now. There is some good info on it from GG and I going back and forth.

Sounds threatening. Should I be worried?

I don't know. Should you?

First, death is personal and this not the place to discuss it.

Sean was an industry guy. Yes, it's a place to discuss it.

Second, this thread was not about the death of your friend, it was about you slamming this pimpdog character, someone that came here and shit all over my friends' floor. He was banned. You should have been.

I was just curious what he did over here. Prior to this whole debacle one of his cronies hit me up and was asking me if I could help him get back in the good graces of the linklist crew. I said "no".

So you got around to bashing gays now?

OK, 1 Brokeback Mountain Joke = Gay Bashing? I think not.

I am not sure if you will suck one but you damn sure look like you would hold it in your mouth.

That's the oldest one in the book...and the proper way to say the joke is:

"I am not sure if you will suck one but he would keep one in his mouth till the swelling went down."

Don't quit your day gig for comedy! Burger King will be short one fry chef!

Hahaha -- now THAT'S FUNNY!

It use to be women that you degraded and then come back with some lame excuse as to be misunderstood. What group is next with you? You got God and Easter recently I hear.

I'm an equal opportunity offender. I hate everyone.

Are you medicating for LMS? I don't want to fight you. Besides, if you beat my ass, who will you brag. It is not a major accomplishment when you whoop an old man's ass. And at that I am not sure that a snooty nose kid can even whip my ass today. They damn sure would not be getting a virgin.

That makes no sense. I'm not as young as you think anyways. I thank my parents for passing along the good genetics.

I was referencing that your parents probably should administered a few ass whippings to you.

They did.

Nothing wrong with having talent. But the more you brag about your accomplishments the more that your talent comes into question.

I don't really see where I've been bragging. If you are looking at the sum of things I've done with my life in this short time on Earth and are intimidated by it...use it as inspiration to make something out of yourself.

Don't just sit around and get jealous, lame, and bitter.

Now dumb me in thinking you would recall a thread you started. And your response to you disappearing is not valid as you just left another stream of piss on the floor.

I like a spirited debate. Nothing wrong with that.

Your NATS explanation has to be some of your fantasy bull shit. All those NATS users can not be running a buggy script.

Show me a program still using the unencrypted codes then.

This would be another another good spam topic for you. "NEWSFLASH!! OC Cash is the only NATS User With Correct Stats"

Thanks, no need now. You just did it for me.

Get a life. Consider how many folks suspect you of shaving by using that encrypted code bull shit.

Please explain that theory. Make sure to include FACTS!

Asshole.

No need to let me know about an update. There is only one man in the world that could cause me to list it as I gave up after the rude emails.

|bow|

What is it about reality that bugs you. This is not true at all. Did I agree with your scare tactics for driving membership to FSC? No. Was I rude? Sure did not mean to be. Direct probably.

Join the FSC if you want. Don't if you don't want to. They are the only people I know that have a lobby for this industry. That shit ain't free.

06/05/05 http://greenguysboard.com/board/showthread.php?t=20707 . My comments here was about you crying about your thread being moved. Hell, we beat that issue to death before you decided to join us.

Dead horses.

07/01/05 http://greenguysboard.com/board/showpost.php?p=182851&postcount=60 . Just making a point about the membership drive. In this thread, I considered you inviting me to a pissing contest and declined out of respect to Greenguy and Jim and the other board members,

See above...more dead horses.

Saw that over there in Bill's thread. Nice resume material. I will just way for the fuckers to send me a newsletter and a dues statement.

If you don't want to support them. Don't. I can't say it enough times. I choose to and some other people here do too. I've been over that issue for a while anyways. Don't worry, my money is backing them in their efforts (which have been effective) and you sadly enjoy the benifits of now. You know if it wasn't for that injuction you would be locked in your office all week long looking a file cabinent of records that you probably don't have in the right order and waiting on the feds to come to call?

You are a true parisite.

Who are my cronies? Sorry I will speak for myself.

You, UW, and a few other have a little clique over here. It's very elementry school really. Especially for a bunch of geriatric old farts.


Damn, you are bad in your own eyes. But you are just an egotistical prick.

And you are a self-proclaimed redneck. Lets run down a quick word association for "redneck":

Ignorant.
Uneducated
Racist
Lower class
Unclean
Drunken (I really think you are drunk when you post)
Inbred (your family tree goes straight up)
Stupid
Angry
Stubborn
Slow
Dim-witted
Brainless
Xenophobic

And still haven’t forgotten about the Civil War?

You're lame. Face it.

[Greenguy]

If this thread has taught us anything, it's how to properly reply to other posts with quotes |thumb

[plateman]

If this thread has taught us anything, it's how to properly reply to other posts with quotes |thumb
yeah thats what I was gonna post and you beat me to it....

sure is a bunch of fancy to the points quotes in there

[MrYum]

If this thread has taught us anything, it's how to properly reply to other posts with quotes |thumb
I know I'm in 'Quotes' awe :D

[Mr. Blue]

If this thread has taught us anything, it's how to properly reply to other posts with quotes |thumb

LOL, it's kind of like dueling banjos, only with quotes, umm...must be a southern thing.

[Useless]

Why the fuck am I the only one not laughing? Oh, that's right - it's not just fucking entertainment for me.

[spookyx]

Now see you opened your mouth again. Clues and opinions is about all that I have about you. However, in real life, I did introduced myself to you once. As a fact, that was when I formed my initial opinion of you. The opinion that you thought your shit did not stink.



Well, this is where I have to add my 2 cents. I met Jay last year at internext and I did not get that opinion at all.
In fact he was very pleasant and friendly.

I do wish all this xxxjay, UW and chop bashing would stop,
since I consider all of the above my friends.

|peace|

[Useless]

I do wish all this xxxjay, UW and chop bashing would stop,
since I consider all of the above my friends.

|peace|Luckily, no one is asking you to choose sides. Otherwise you'd have to admit that Jay is an immature egotistical fuckwad and that I'm am wicked sexy when I'm angry.

[Chop Smith]

You boty Chop has had over 200 listings with me, your head is pretty far up his ass, so I assumed you did too.
Perhaps you should quit assuming and start thinking. I have submitted to you at best 49 times. Anything over that probably has an affiliate code on them. Damn, I hate he missed that other 100 or so.

|deadhorse

This is what made you think that me and my cronies have pretty much pissed on you at every opportunity? The dead horse was not even directed at you. It was directed at the entire thread that had been beaten to death. Fact is, KoolKat started that "Freedom Isn't Free! Fuck the FSC! " thread so if it pissed anyone it should have been him. Might have and he kept his mouth shut.

If you really think that ill of me...don't take my traffic...that was my whole point. You are a real certified piece of steaming dogshit, if this is how you want to conduct yourself.
Your repetition indicates that you cannot read. If someone is reading to you, ask them to go real show. This issue is off the table. This real certified piece of steaming dog shit joins others in not wanting to do business with you. Using one of the few meaningful phrases that you have formed. - End of story.

Thanks for not trashing my traffic.
Said that I would not do it.

I will, however trash your program. You sites look like the north end of a southbound mule. Nobody wants to buy that shit. They look like they haven't been updated since the late 90's...it really some repugnant shit.
I expected it and have no problem with your opinion. Much better webmasters than you have looked. I often ask qualified and respected folks to take a look at my repugnant shit. I am still learning. Who knows someone might tell me how to be successful one day?

Is the GGandJim Board Sport over here beating dead horses?
We have a sport here? I know we spend lots of time chasing spammers that pose as real posters. Do you get a point when you trap one?

How does that affect you anyways? Like I said above, we made good on our promises, not on the timetable expected, but we did keep our word.
It only affects me because I allow it. This board is special and I want it to always be. As to how Greenguy and Jim runs this board and their affairs, it is none of my business. Had it been, I would have banned your ass when you tried to explain how much you had done for this board by having the longest running thread in the history of the board. Now that was funny even coming from an egotistical prick.

Go read the stats thread now. There is some good info on it from GG and I going back and forth.
I did. See you moved up from 121 views to 250. I also noticed that Greenguy is still a forgiving kind of guy.

I was just curious what he did over here. Prior to this whole debacle one of his cronies hit me up and was asking me if I could help him get back in the good graces of the linklist crew. I said "no".
Bull shit, you were a regular here when it happened. End this story! You came over here to hang him out again. By the time you resolved your conflict you had pissed and ran.

"I am not sure if you will suck one but he would keep one in his mouth till the swelling went down." Don't quit your day gig for comedy! Burger King will be short one fry chef! Hahaha -- now THAT'S FUNNY!
Yeah that is it. Exactly what I wanted to say about you. However, I was not trying to be funny.

I'm an equal opportunity offender. I hate everyone.
Probably that little man syndrome kicking in. Being egotistical is also a symptom.

I don't really see where I've been bragging. If you are looking at the sum of things I've done with my life in this short time on Earth and are intimidated by it...use it as inspiration to make something out of yourself. Don't just sit around and get jealous, lame, and bitter.
:D You are trying to be funny?

Show me a program still using the unencrypted codes then.
I can show you a good list but the easiest thing is to get a list from NATS and strike OC Cash's name off of it.

Please explain that theory. Make sure to include FACTS! Asshole.
Now get your head out of your ass and get someone to read this to you real slow.
Get a life. Consider how many folks suspect you of shaving by using that encrypted code bull shit.
I did not say you were shaving. It is the perception seeing you made such a big issue out of the the unencrypted codes and when they were made available you did not offer the option. (and bullshit that you are right and everyone else is wrong) So how many affiliates do you know that could recognize a code like nats=NjU6OjU5Mg/? Something like nats=egoprick would be obvious.

Don't worry, my money is backing them in their efforts (which have been effective) and you sadly enjoy the benifits of now.
|deadhorse
So you are now taking credit for all of us dues paying members? You are not paying a fucking thing for me. It was not your business if I had joined or not. I was a member before the "You better join or go to jail" campaign began.

You know if it wasn't for that injuction be locked in your office all week long looking a file cabinent of records that you probably don't have in the right order and waiting on the feds to come to call?
You are a true parisite.
:D You really don't have a clue. Oh hell, maybe someone will enlighten you. I was prepared for the last 2257 scare before you even woke up to the fact that it was happening. And thanks to RawAlex, the members of this board had a steady flow of information. Greenguy even went out and fetched an attorney. How did we do without you until you posted your say nothing announcement? You are the fucking parasite that leeches off this board.

You, UW, and a few other have a little clique over here. It's very elementry school really. Especially for a bunch of geriatric old farts.
Now you have really hurt this geriatric old fart's feelings. To think that there was a clique here and I wasn't invited to join. Just think, I could get another chance at second grade.

And you are a self-proclaimed redneck.

This is true.

Lets run down a quick word association for "redneck": Ignorant, Uneducated, Racist, Lower class, Unclean, Drunken (I really think you are drunk when you post), Inbred (your family tree goes straight up), Stupid, Angry, Stubborn, Slow
Dim-witted, Brainless, Xenophobic. And still haven’t forgotten about the Civil War?
I have lived with those terms all my life so you using them does not hurt me much. Especially, considering the source. However, it tends to bother me for someone to call me or a friend a racist. Yes, I understand when 'wannabes' have their backs on the wall that they will play the race card. The other thing, I have not drank in years. Not against it. I am allergenic to alcohol. It breaks me out into a real asshole and then I tend to say what I really mean.

Since you brought it up, why do you write so much about drugs, dirty needles and crap like that. Do you have an abuse problem? I just always thought that you were high on yourself.

You're lame. Face it.
I know but it is hard getting use to using a cane. I guess I will learn to face it one day.

[ecchi]

35?
Damn your old
Those of us who are well past 35 are now sitting in a corner sobbing.

[Chop Smith]

|yawn| This thread is starting to get a little old... why don't we try to act like adults here and stop bashing each other. Hell, if we are going to bash someone, let's at least do it behind their back! |badidea|

Feel free to throw in a |deadhorse at anytime.

...I met Jay last year at internext and I did not get that opinion at all. In fact he was very pleasant and friendly.
I am pleased that your first impression of Jay was good. Perhaps I approached him wrong. Perhaps he was fucked up. The only thing I know is that he was an invited guest at a party that I was allowed to co-host. After he made his grand entrance, I watched for an opportunity to approach him. I introduced myself and handed him my crappy t-shirt that I had for all board members. 'Til this day has he said nice to meet you, thanks for the shirt, kiss my ass, nothing. I turned to a highly respected webmaster and said "What an egotistical prick". The other webmaster acknowledged affirmative and it was finished.

I do wish all this xxxjay, UW and chop bashing would stop, since I consider all of the above my friends.
Spookyx, I hope we always remain friends. If you are friends with Jay, I respect that without reservations and would never attempt to impose my opinion of him on you.

[Jim]

Truthfully, a little drama once in a while is good for any board.

But, this thread is getting a little old. Jay has been a friend of this board since the day it opened. And, in the past was a great advertiser. He and I once had a misunderstanding and we cleared it up like gentlemen.

Everyone else, you guys know how I feel about you so i don't think I need to say it. :)

[docholly]

LOL, it's kind of like dueling banjos, only with quotes, umm...must be a southern thing.

that's pretty fucking funny and i was just practicing my "quotability* usage.

[Greenguy]

...Jay has been a friend of this board since the day it opened. And, in the past was a great advertiser. He and I once had a misunderstanding and we cleared it up like gentlemen...I'd hate to see how messy it'd be if it wasn't cleared up like gentlemen :D

Truth be told, Jay & I (as well as Jay & this board) have had our problems in the past - hell, the last problem (aside form this one) just ended yesterday - and they did seem to eventually get resolved (some not a gentlemanly as others)

Jay was at one time a very valued member & contributor to this board, but once OC Cash opened, his interest the the board dropped off. And I can completely understand that, because projects & new business ventures like that tend to become your main priority.

I will say that I was upset in the lack of updates to this thread, especially once the issue was resolved & we found out thru people reading other board, but I didn't really care about it because I can't stand pimpdog anyway (but a timely update would have been nice)

I am also a bit perplexed by the "show I could take him down a notch if I wanted to" comment that Jay made. It comes off as if Jay was just flexing his muscles as opposed to being upset about the horrific comments that were made.

That being said, Jay really is a decent guy if you meet him face to face & I know that his board persona is a tad bit different than talking to him in person.

And I might as well throw this one out there - Love ya Useless...Love ya Chop |thumb

[Chop Smith]

Greenguy, I will respect yours and Jim's call.

[ClickBuster]

If this thread has taught us anything, it's how to properly reply to other posts with quotes |thumb
I have to print this on a T-Shirt

[Useless]

I suppose I should post my closing comments or everyone will assume that I'm sitting somewhere, punching my scruffy testicles until my knuckles bleed, while screaming "IT RUBS THE FUCKING LOTION ON ITS SKIN" at the wife.

As some of you know, I enjoy volleying insults to and fro. ;) It's the great American pastime, after all. It effects me not, what Jay thinks of me, as I am sure this is a reciprocal relationship. Neither of us really know who the other is and don't care to know and that's just fine. Much of this thread has given me a few laughs. And again, I wouldn't besurprised if Jay laughed quite a few times himself. However, you all know very well that I react quite differently when a friend is insulted. I know Chop certainly doesn't need any of help with any battle (especially with my highly refined manner of worsening things), but I like to support my friends - I'm still fucked up that way. I'm not one to sit idly by when I have so many wonderful things to add to an argument. ;)

Anyway, I guess this onboard brawl is over for now. I'll hold my tongue and not resond the long list of bullshit names (racist, ignorant, drunken, etc) Jay called my buddy Chop. The sheep can go on loving and respecting Jay for being another fool who was lucky enough to get in the business when he did so he can continue to treat you all like little half-retarded puppies. |thumb

[Greenguy]

I haven't called anything - just thought I'd jump in & spew out some needless info :)

Believe me, if I had a problem with anyone in this thread, they'd have heard from me already :D

I have no problem with this thread continuing or ending |thumb

[Useless]

I have no problem with this thread continuing or ending |thumbYou are a bad, bad man. :D

Ah, what the hell...since I'm here and Chop's Cash was pretty heavily insulted in this thread, let me just give you a sneak peak (spam) into the month of May at Chop's Cash. Brand new tours, new members areas, new sites, and new affiliate tools. Chop didn't need Jay to point out the need for changes and the ball has been rolling for quite awhile now. |thumb

[Greenguy]

It's more like I just don't care :D

I could make a pro Useless & Chop post as well, but I think everyone knows that I respect both of you & that I truly consider you both friends as well as colleagues |shake|

[Jim]

I'd hate to see how messy it'd be if it wasn't cleared up like gentlemen :D

I said Jay and I cleared our problem up like gentlemen.

[Jim]

Oh yeah, I don't care about this thread either.

[koolkat]

Now I'm really going to fuck things up here... quoting quotes in quotes! |crazy|

|yawn| This thread is starting to get a little old... why don't we try to act like adults here and stop bashing each other. Hell, if we are going to bash someone, let's at least do it behind their back! |badidea|Feel free to throw in a |deadhorse at anytime.


Here you go Chop... |deadhorse

[Useless]

Here you go Chop... Do you have an overload of exposed tattoos or facial piercings?
|couch|

[karomesis]

On a serious note, if someone searches for quote on google they will recieve 879,000,000 results, 870,000,000 of which will lead them to this thread.|loony|

[fetish1]

And for Useless Warrior...I would like to add:
I posted over here becasue I knew he burned his bridges with GG along time ago and I was curious why.
The whole reason I started this thread is becasue I was curious what PD did to get banned over here and I got some answers.
I was just curious what he did over here.

Original post:
His buddy Jim was asking me to help him try to make good back in this community again a few months ago...man, I am glad I never helped.

Fuck Pimpdog and fuck Epicash.

The guy pretty much pisses on a very good friend of mines (who just commited suicide) grave to try to drum up business for his lame program.

It's no wonder he's been hated over here for so long.


Guess I am still missing the invisible text where you are asking what he did to get banned over here! |huh

Karomesis, make that 870,000,004 :D

[koolkat]

Do you have an overload of exposed tattoos or facial piercings?
|couch|Not quite following here UG |huh

[Useless]

Not quite following here UG |huhAh, don't worry about it. That was just me being stupid. Some of my jokes don't really work out that well. ;)

[stuveltje]

i love this thread, not for the bashing or flaming or whatever, just that it is possible to have a thread like this on a board, it shows some real things to me, hey dont hit me i am just dutch and yeah i use that all the time.........but its great to see people can say what is bugging them and yeah ofcourse they get answers back, but it always will end oke... as long people stay neutral...did i say that right (heay holland is an neutral place, smart heay:D)nd yep i had to laugh sometimes too reading some postings, dont hit me....|violin|

[xxxjay]

Perhaps you should quit assuming and start thinking. I have submitted to you at best 49 times. Anything over that probably has an affiliate code on them. Damn, I hate he missed that other 100 or so.

|deadhorse

This is what made you think that me and my cronies have pretty much pissed on you at every opportunity? The dead horse was not even directed at you. It was directed at the entire thread that had been beaten to death. Fact is, KoolKat started that "Freedom Isn't Free! Fuck the FSC! " thread so if it pissed anyone it should have been him. Might have and he kept his mouth shut.


Your repetition indicates that you cannot read. If someone is reading to you, ask them to go real show. This issue is off the table. This real certified piece of steaming dog shit joins others in not wanting to do business with you. Using one of the few meaningful phrases that you have formed. - End of story.


Said that I would not do it.


I expected it and have no problem with your opinion. Much better webmasters than you have looked. I often ask qualified and respected folks to take a look at my repugnant shit. I am still learning. Who knows someone might tell me how to be successful one day?


We have a sport here? I know we spend lots of time chasing spammers that pose as real posters. Do you get a point when you trap one?


It only affects me because I allow it. This board is special and I want it to always be. As to how Greenguy and Jim runs this board and their affairs, it is none of my business. Had it been, I would have banned your ass when you tried to explain how much you had done for this board by having the longest running thread in the history of the board. Now that was funny even coming from an egotistical prick.


I did. See you moved up from 121 views to 250. I also noticed that Greenguy is still a forgiving kind of guy.


Bull shit, you were a regular here when it happened. End this story! You came over here to hang him out again. By the time you resolved your conflict you had pissed and ran.


Yeah that is it. Exactly what I wanted to say about you. However, I was not trying to be funny.


Probably that little man syndrome kicking in. Being egotistical is also a symptom.


:D You are trying to be funny?


I can show you a good list but the easiest thing is to get a list from NATS and strike OC Cash's name off of it.


Now get your head out of your ass and get someone to read this to you real slow.

I did not say you were shaving. It is the perception seeing you made such a big issue out of the the unencrypted codes and when they were made available you did not offer the option. (and bullshit that you are right and everyone else is wrong) So how many affiliates do you know that could recognize a code like nats=NjU6OjU5Mg/? Something like nats=egoprick would be obvious.


|deadhorse
So you are now taking credit for all of us dues paying members? You are not paying a fucking thing for me. It was not your business if I had joined or not. I was a member before the "You better join or go to jail" campaign began.


:D You really don't have a clue. Oh hell, maybe someone will enlighten you. I was prepared for the last 2257 scare before you even woke up to the fact that it was happening. And thanks to RawAlex, the members of this board had a steady flow of information. Greenguy even went out and fetched an attorney. How did we do without you until you posted your say nothing announcement? You are the fucking parasite that leeches off this board.


Now you have really hurt this geriatric old fart's feelings. To think that there was a clique here and I wasn't invited to join. Just think, I could get another chance at second grade.



This is true.


I have lived with those terms all my life so you using them does not hurt me much. Especially, considering the source. However, it tends to bother me for someone to call me or a friend a racist. Yes, I understand when 'wannabes' have their backs on the wall that they will play the race card. The other thing, I have not drank in years. Not against it. I am allergenic to alcohol. It breaks me out into a real asshole and then I tend to say what I really mean.

Since you brought it up, why do you write so much about drugs, dirty needles and crap like that. Do you have an abuse problem? I just always thought that you were high on yourself.


I know but it is hard getting use to using a cane. I guess I will learn to face it one day.

Dude, you are wrong on so many different levels I don't even know where to begin. I know you just flat out lying about a few things, but I won't even get into it.

When I asked you to pony up with some facts...you conviently dodge out. Whatever is clever.

I guess this shit is going to end just like my deal with pimpdog...I'm dropping it, but I still think you are a piece of shit. Not everybody has to like everybody. I don't like you. You don't like me. I'm perfectly fine with that.

You are right about a few things...I did kind of stop posting here for a while. Just becasue I wasn't posting, doesn't mean I wasn't reading. I read this board 4-5 times a week on an average. I may have fucked up a few times in the past, but who hasn't? One thing you didn't bother to point out that I hadn't done that in a long time, or the number of webmasters I've reffered here, or the links that I've kept up to GG and Jim through think and thin, I've done the SE chat a few times, and much more.

People alwasy dwell on the negative, but I suppose that is the way of the world.

If you think I'm to high and mighty to help out a smaller webmaster (even if it does not directly benifit me), you couldn't be further from the truth. I don't handle everything publicly my email is jay@jqmedia.org, my ICQ is 62835707, my phone number is 323-845-9350...any webmaster that wants to hit me up about anything can do so anytime. I firmly believe that you be nice to everyone on the way up, because someday you may need them on the way down.

So in conclusion, I would like to bid you a final fuck you and get back to work.

|greenguy|

[Chop Smith]

The following sponsors use NATS and allow the link to be coded or unencoded:
Danza Bucks
Dee Cash
Duke Dollars
IA Cash
Jayman Cash
Massive Dollars
Mayor's Money
Mission Dollars
MobBucks
Niche Money
Niched Sites
Mr Skin Cash
Pride Bucks
Radical Cash
Sammy Smack
Sapphic Cash
Strapon Cash
Titan Bucks
zBuckz

With the exception of the one I have mentioned earlier, I found another that does not allow the option - Traffic Gigolos

Please realize that I do not a have complete list of NATS users. These are the ones that I have a login.

[Toby]

You can add the following Chop's list:

TrashyBucks
TwistedCash
XclusiveCash

[emmanuelle]

From what I have learned after thoroughly investigating over the past couple days, is that it's indeed the default for the newest version of nats, and if the option is not there, it has been deliberately removed from the template.

I don't know about previous versions of nats though. Anybody?

[Useless]

From what I have learned after thoroughly investigating over the past couple days, is that it's indeed the default for the newest version of nats, and if the option is not there, it has been deliberately removed from the template.I have broken this into two parts because GG loves the quoting thing. :D Here's the skinny on that. OC Cash does have the encode/unencode switch these days. Chop wasn't aware of it, which is pretty much due to past (http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/showthread.php?t=16841) threads (http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/showthread.php?t=26569). At that point, OC was one of the NATS programs not allowing unencoding of links. I'm not bashing OC here, just stating a fact with no opinion on the matter what so ever. I assume Jay didn't catch what Chop was getting at about the NATS issue and that may be why part of this argument has been left unanswered.
I don't know about previous versions of nats though. Anybody?The initial versions of NATS did not allow for the unencoding of links to my knowledge.

[GonZo]

You can add the following Chop's list:

TrashyBucks
TwistedCash
XclusiveCash
Yu can add FatFuckingCash to the list as well.

[xxxjay]

I have broken this into two parts because GG loves the quoting thing. :D Here's the skinny on that. OC Cash does have the encode/unencode switch these days. Chop wasn't aware of it, which is pretty much due to past (http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/showthread.php?t=16841) threads (http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/showthread.php?t=26569). At that point, OC was one of the NATS programs not allowing unencoding of links. I'm not bashing OC here, just stating a fact with no opinion on the matter what so ever. I assume Jay didn't catch what Chop was getting at about the NATS issue and that may be why part of this argument has been left unanswered.
The initial versions of NATS did not allow for the unencoding of links to my knowledge.

Anyone that is running the NATS V2 or better has them in there (including OCCash...so you can add that to Chop's list - LOL).

The only point I would like to make about the unencryted codes is that they are much more likely the fail (or get jacked) than the encrypted ones. A LOT of computers have Spyware / Scumware that looks for strings in linkcode like ref=xxxjay and can change them to ref=spyware'scode. With the encrypted (while not foolproof) will experience less of these problems.